Thread 64318737

Bangladesh Army is on path to standardising the CZ Bren 2 advanced combat rifles with complete ToT from the Czech Republic

Anyways, how is it, k/? any burger user of this here?

>>64318737 (OP)
Haven't used it myself, but the bren is at this point well-tested in Ukraine, with many thousands of soldiers using them for years on end, often in muddy trench conditions and with high round counts. They've performed quite well overall, so it's only natural that they'll start getting more contracts over their competitors, which are similarly priced but without the proven performance.

>>64318737 (OP)
interesting. Last time I looked into it they were going to adopt the AK 15 and the BREN was 3rd place behind the Turkish AK clone. The Bren is probably the best of the 3tbh, what caliber is it in?

>>64318758
>Last time I looked into it they were going to adopt the AK 15 and the BREN was 3rd place behind the Turkish AK clone.
From what I heard, it was India who pressured Russia not to sell the AK-15 as their newly adopted AK-203 will become inferior then. India did almost the same thing with pakistan back in 2018
>what caliber is it in?
Should be the non-nato 7.62 for the manufacturing easiness and the predecessor

Stop (ToT)ing, (ToT) is not allowed

>>64318899
saar?

>>64318737 (OP)
>with complete ToT
It's...

>>64318897
>India who pressured Russia not to sell the AK-15
makes sense, it's no wonder Bangladesh don't want to buy advanced weapons from Russia anymore. I assume it was the same reason they didn't get Mi 28 Havocs

The BREN is probably the closets gun to what I had in my mind as the perfect service rifle design desu

>>64318897
Saw some anons saying that the jeet defense has been compromised by the russkies, but looks like russkies has been compromised as well.
>jeet land is largest buyer of russian weapons
They are both fucked I think as long as the chinks don't transfer tech to the russkies.

>>64318899
Wtf anon, transfer of technology AKA local production under the license? Is my autist brain missing some k/ trends here? Don't lurk here much these days
>>64319220
Most probably, but BREN seems better than AKs anyway tho expensive
Regarding Mi-28, I think the both army and air force would have gone for the AH-1Z / Apache, but the previous regime fucked it up for their political benefits. Now, I think they will go for the turkish/italian or, instead drones completely

>>64318737 (OP)
My one and only experience was fingerfucking one in a gunstore once.

It was absolutely shocking how smooth the action is.

>>64321484
>? Is my autist brain missing some k/ trends here? Don't lurk here much these days
>>64319075

>>64321488
Nice.
>>64321495
Anons brain seems to be more autist than me, maybe its reddit?

>>64321590
Congratulations, you are not a pedophile.

They used to be popular in Canada because AR-15, Mini-14, SG550, HK33, MCX etc. were all banned.

Same reason as why the type 81 became popular after AKs and Vz.58 were banned.

Canada banned the bren 2 and type 81 banned in December 2024. They will be confiscated from owners and donated to Ukraine.

>>64318737 (OP)
jewoogled "bangladesh bren 2"
found this https://x.com/BDMILITARY/status/1960546055801524362

>>64318737 (OP)
I've got one. 14" sbr. It's a slick little rifle. Light, compact, absolutely fantastic ergos. Trigger is crisp but nothing exceptional. Big downside is that CZ USA doesn't import a lot of parts and the aftermarket is pretty sparse, so if you lose a spring or break a firing pin you're pretty much fucked.

>>64321201
>They are both fucked I think as long as the chinks don't transfer tech to the russkies.
Low IQed anon doesn't know that Russia-China have disputes over territories which are now just in a dormant mode. A direct war between China and Russia is more likely than a China-US war in the not so distant future. The US has chances to ignite it but, hey, Dr. Pavel I'm CIA.

>>64321717
Holy shit, show moar collections!!
> They will be confiscated from owners and donated to Ukraine.
Wtf? had no clue and thought you were joking
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/banned-firearms-ukraine-1.7558048

>>64321745
Is that site for real?

>>64321745
>Big downside is that CZ USA doesn't import a lot of parts and the aftermarket is pretty sparse, so if you lose a spring or break a firing pin you're pretty much fucked.
About a million guns will be required and some rumors suggest BREN2 will be exported from Bangladesh as "everything but arms" export policy will be lifted from next year

>>64321976
Sorry, meant for you
>>>64321745 (You)
>>Big downside is that CZ USA doesn't import a lot of parts and the aftermarket is pretty sparse, so if you lose a spring or break a firing pin you're pretty much fucked.
>About a million guns will be required and some rumors suggest BREN2 will be exported from Bangladesh as "everything but arms" export policy will be lifted from next year

>>64318737 (OP)
Why not the CZ BREN 3 if you are newly adopting now?

>>64322536
I assume CZ offered them to take the older version for a lower price

>>64322536
Bren 2 is a war proven rifle.

>>64321717
>Canada banned the bren 2 and type 81 banned in December 2024. They will be confiscated from owners and donated to Ukraine.

>>64322275
Didn't Ashiq Choudhary explicitly say he looking for weapons contacts that Bangladesh could export?

>>64321201
r u cia?

>Russia Denies Engaging In Fraud Scheme To Recruit Indians In Military

>>64323038
Is there any chance of Canada being invaded finally when there's a civil war in the US?

>>64318737 (OP)
I had the 11.5 bren 2 and desu it was the best rifle i've ever used and ive shot pretty much all of them. Retro AR, Gucci AR, Krink, FAL, AKM, Beryl, galil, aug, scar. Great ergos, extremely comfy to shoot, ambi, stock folds, built well.
The reason I sold it is because they made a retarded choice to use a pencil barrel and you have zero options to change it. After a mag dump the groups open up to an unacceptable level. I can't imagine how bad it is with full auto. Really sucks because I loved that thing.

>>64318737 (OP)
I know a fellow Bangladeshi wrote this shit because we're always hyping up shit that hasn't materialised yet

Anyway no we're nowhere near standardising anything we're trialling the Bren alongside a bunch of Chinese stuff (expected given we use the Type 56 and 81) and some ARs and for some reason a Turkish AK clone.

Maybe we'll end up with the Bren maybe we won't but it's just trials.

>>64322745
And Bren 3 was made with experiences in Ukraine in mind.

>>64321484
Uooh czech technology erotic

>>64318737 (OP)
Whats that camo? Looks sexy

>>64324547
That's Bangladesh camo it's m81 woodland with the contrast and saturation turned up

>>64318737 (OP)
>ToT
Bratty rifle needs fire correction...###

>>64324180
Fellow deshi anon, don't shit like jon snow.
>Anyway no we're nowhere near standardising anything
That's because its been just approved last month.
>we're trialling the Bren alongside a bunch of Chinese stuff (expected given we use the Type 56 and 81) and some ARs and for some reason a Turkish AK clone
Which had been happening for over a year after knowing that the AK-15 deal was a bamboozle.
>Maybe we'll end up with the Bren maybe we won't but it's just trials.
I would say this even 2 months ago but now It has been confirmed mofo.

Anyways,
>The interim government has approved funding for MRCA aircraft, attack aircraft, and a SAM system purchase. Four years ago, the BAF requested €2.2 billion from the AL government for 16 MRCA fighters, but the AL government never approved the funds. This is the first time the BAF has received government approval for MRCA funding.
Never approved because of the jeets and french

>>64325573
>I would say this even 2 months ago but now It has been confirmed mofo.
*Would have said this

>they made a retarded choice to use a pencil barrel and you have zero options to change it.
So, BREN is a no go for civilians minding its parts availability issues?

>>64322536
I know this is an army gun but I hate that the design on the magwell, grip, and stock is slightly different

>>64325615
What the fuck is my retardedaustist brain doing?

>>64324131
>they made a retarded choice to use a pencil barrel and you have zero options to change it.
So, BREN is a no go for civilians minding its parts availability issues?

>>64318737 (OP)
>Bangladesh Army is on path to standardising the CZ Bren 2 advanced combat rifles with complete ToT from the Czech Republic
With what money?

>>64326489
>With what money?
The defense loan money that dandia gave, saar, all the countries are very poor around dandia saar, dandia veryyy rich dandia superpower 2020

>>64326686
>India: The Next Superpower
>google the author
>Indian

>>64326489
>>64326686
You should read my book

>>64325573
>Never approved because of the jeets and french
I can see some connections regarding the jeets, but not the french. What did the frenchies do?

>>64327173
nta maybe, he's trying to say the French would lsiten to Jeet demands to stop supply since the Jeets would be a bigger customer

>>64325573
>€2.2 billion
Is this mean Banglas getting the €urofighter, finally?I think I saw somewhere that they were getting the J-10?

Sorta slightly off and on topic but through the grapevine I am hearing that there is begging at the Bong MoD to seriously consider the Bren as the next service rifle.

>>64327646
afaik it's pretty much confirmed they'll get the J10C and highly likely they'll get the EF2000, nothings been confirmed on the Typhoon front though

>>64327794
Is there any problem with this?

>>64330009
No but, it would have been cheaper to just adopt M16s and avoid all the money it cost to design the SA80 then fix it. It doesn't look kino either

>>64327794
It's basically between the scar, bren and hk416, we both know it ain't gonna be the scar. I think it's probably gonna be the 416, France and Germany have already adopted it and HK has a good track record with the MOD. Then there's the sections of the military that are dunk on the Bullpup kool aid

Is this for real?
https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2025/09/26/trump-administration-set-to-launch-drone-facility-in-bangladesh-to-strengthen-bangladesh-army-and-navy/

>>64331642
Yeah it's real

>>64330332
hk416 is so much better

>>64326489
you need exclusive money to buy service rifles? k/ retard?

>>64324486
CZ Technologiaa

>>64332348
Is HK going to let Britbongs produce the rifles themselves tho?

>>64332348
>you need exclusive money to buy service rifles? k/ retard?
Have you been paying attention to Bangladesh's economy? Standardizing on a new service rifle shouldn't be how they use their limited military budget right now now. There, showed you more respect than you showed me

>>64336304
NTA most foreign military acquisitions are made with FMF and they're going to be producing them locally so it's gonna be even cheaper

>>64322536
Contract negotiation/evaluation has probably been going on for quite a while
Or it's just that the Bren 2 is a bit cheaper since production has been running since 10 years now

>>64336304
Yes, only a jeet can be concerned bout Bangladesh's economy than Bangladesh's own people and economists. >>64326686 this anon was right on the money I see now and, ever heard of G2G deals and FMF loans? Not to mention, country like Bangladesh can get weapon imports even without G2G, FMF etc.

>There, showed you more respect than you showed me
What? Are we on reddit or something? You need to go back. Fucking jeets need to stop false flagging.

>>64337135
Please never get into a position of power

>>64337768
nta but, I think you're a faggot

>>64330332
It's practically impossible to get non-AR derived platforms adopted due to lack of aftermarket shit like anons above me were talking about. The AR has been standardized to death with almost everyone. It just became too popular so everything has been built for it and that's all militaries see. Even Israel gave up on their domestic rifles and started making the AR their standard issue.

I would love to be proven wrong with England but there's a reason you only see literally who third world countries able to escape the clutches of firearm-globalism. The sun will drown in HK416s

>>64337927
nta but, I think you're a faggot as well

>>64324445
this is why we hang the engineers

>>64324131
https://mos-tek.com/product/cz-bren-ms-2/

This guy makes parts and conversions...

>>64326489
>With what money?
Debt that they'll spend decades paying off via making cheap t-shirts pants an leather belts to be sold in Walmart's an malls. Also helps that Japan is helping them build modern coal power plants which sure is dirty as fuck but they already have India as a neighbor and there are ways to mitigate the ecological damage of that even if just a little bit and Japan is known for having actual fucking standards unlike when China builds something an it collapses later on or makes the local water undrinkable so I'm sure they've got a good deal there in the single dot on flag alliance.
I'm sure some bribing took place too but again at least Bengali's aren't getting screwed like the US's deal with SIG so whatever.

Does make me wonder why they didn't go with something cheaper like first gen Daewoo's or FNC's with qd rails welded on top or any M4 manufacturer.
Don't get me wrong I like CZ but still, then they could focus on shit that actually matters like missiles, artillery, and especially drones which kinda matter if you've been paying attention to Armenia/Azerbaijan.

>>64338393
The Russians built them like 2 nuclear power plants though

>>64337942
>Even Israel gave up on their domestic rifles and started making the AR their standard
It helped that we gave them crates of them for practically nothing

>>64337977
Nta but I think you're a redditor, being a faggot is implied

>>64339295
nta but i think you've been samefagging

>>64338784
>The Russians built them like 2 nuclear power plants though
I wonder why local Bengali's don't wanna use those...

>>64339577
But, anon Putin told me the hohols did Chernobyl

>>64337927
>bangladesh buys weapons
>some "concerned citizen" citing with what money
>further telling to buy food rice with the money instead
>turns out the weapon is superior what dandia uses
>turns out the "concerned citizen" is a jeet from dandia
>turns out the jeet is now blathering nonsense to cope and saying irrelevant things to feel superior
THIS is a classic example of how the pajeets countering bangladesh and probably most of its neighboring countries. This pattern of behaviors follows not just on weapons buying only, but everything, btw.
Given that the majority of BAL cult members who are pro-Dandia have fled the country to Dandia, won't be shocked if this coping anon is Bangladeshi.

>>64327794
kino? https://youtu.be/aaQWgd3guy8

>>64327269
That's a concern for later... Dandia used the frenchies to halt the multi-engine jet acquirement in 2020-21 when their intelligence knew that the air force had selected the yurofag typhoon in 2018-19. They used dandian BAL cult just to delay process by convincing Emanuel Macaroni / Florence Parly(a complete pro-dandian frenchie defense minister btw) that the air force had also interested to buy the Rafaaaal lol. These are not just theories but, connections can be made easily. Also looks like so far, that the french foreign policy in south asia is still run by dandia. I think frenchies are going to get fucked like the jeets now and will have a civil war, the first one to start in europe in the coming years!!

I personally would have preferred any stealth jets instead of eurofags or any 4th gen twin engines because the cost and time to acquire these are almost similar but, the air chief already confirmed about the approval of freakin 2 billion euros...

>>64331642
These have been ordered like 4-5 years ago lmao.

>>64318737 (OP)
Yes, I own three and love them. If you want a light, side charging, ambi controls gun with a folding stock it’s the best option available. Insane how cheap they are, too.

>>64318748
I had chatgpt spitball combat hours numbers based on what we know about the number of Brens in Ukraine. It’s simply more combat proven than the SCAR at this point, maybe (a distant) third to the AR and AK variants in terms of currently issued assault rifles.

>>64321976
Little bits and bobs (pins, screws, pistons, etc) are pretty easy to come by, now. It’s stuff like barrels that are difficult. The flip side is that an entire rifle is inexpensive enough you can buy one as a parts gun ($1200)

>>64340690
Israeli rifles might beat it, but that's the only possible thing that'd be more combat tested than a bren, and even then it's hard to say

>>64340690
Do you prefer the 16" carbine or the shorter barrel one? I've been thinking of picking one up and I heard the 16" balances worse with the heavy barrel, but I like the longer gas system and access to a stock without having to SBR it.

>>64318737 (OP)
>thread makes me want a Bren 2
>the rifle version is hard to find

>>64341034
Two of those are the 14”, one is the 11”. None are the 16”

>>64318737 (OP)
CZ Bren is fucking dope. Don't own one, fired one though. I am Czech, so biased.

>>64330009
Will this be on the test?

>>64343259
which version did you fire?

>>64326222
Type 15?

>>64342458
Which length do you prefer? I assume 14" if you have 2 of them.

the 14” rifles are two different calibers, that’s why I bought two (5.56 and x39). The 11” is also 5.56. Can’t say the length of the 14” bothers me, they all shoot great. The KNS piston helps with the 11” though, it’s a bit overgassed stock

>>64338784
With billions of dollar corruptions involving countries like India, Russia themselves and Britain as well.

>>64338393
>Does make me wonder why they didn't go with something cheaper like first gen Daewoo's or FNC's with qd rails welded on top or any M4 manufacturer.
Too old? 7.62×39? ToTing issues?
>I'm sure some bribing took place too but again at least Bengali's aren't getting screwed like the US's deal with SIG so whatever.
What happened there?
>Japan is helping them build modern coal power plants which sure is dirty as fuck but they already have India as a neighbor and there are ways to mitigate the ecological damage of that even if just a little bit and Japan is known for having actual fucking standards unlike when China builds something an it collapses later on or makes the local water undrinkable so I'm sure they've got a good deal there in the single dot on flag alliance.
Japan is India's major ally. They will back stab the banglas when the time comes for sure and, now it has become more relevant considering the current geo-political scenario.
>Technically, China and USA are the only allies of Bangladesh.

>>64326489
What are you doing on /K/ ?? Buying weapons are easier than buying food externally!

>>64345786
retard faggot shill

>>64345786
Salty Jeet hands typed this

>>64324180
>I know a fellow Bangladeshi wrote this shit
>for some reason a Turkish AK clone.
A fellow Bangladeshi k/ but doesn't know Turk defence infiltration and technologay transfer agreement. Sstop pretending anon.

It's joever bros......

>>64346609
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/an-indian-hinterland-town-hotels-become-japanese-havens-auto-expats-2025-10-02/

>>64318758
The Bren in 7.62x39 has a really bad rep in the civilian market with shit gas issues and slow roll out of fixes from CZ. I know the French GIGN adopted the 7.62x39 Bren, but how a gun manufacturer addresses issues with their government contracts is going to always be miles different from how they address their international market issues.
The 5.56 Bren

>>64351112
stinky third worlder

>>64344725
Yeah, I think so

>>64351112
This reminds me of the time when Japan was supposed to build a Toyota factory in Bangladesh...but for some invisible reason, they shifted it to Myanmar and before going to production civil war broke out. They got fucked because there are some theories that the jeets did that as India had just started to export their subpar trucks pickups to bangladesh and they also had plans to gradually flood the market with their shitty cars replacing the majority japanese cars there, though that never happened maybe cause the cars are shittier than their pickups.

>>64346671
Probably not, Japan is the country who created Indo-Pacific strategy, involved the Pacific Command in the Bay of Bengal and it is the pajeets who pressured anime characters to convince burgerland to do that.

>>64350246
What to do now?

>>64354820
That does seem like something right up Hasina's alley. Anyway Japanese ppl who have decent English is rare and Indians love saying Japan is on their side, I think it's to upset weebs

>>64356295
@grok is this true?

>>64356576
pls saar...............

>>64356572
>Japanese ppl who have decent English is rare
Is it possible to say refrigerator? https://youtu.be/Ids82u3qJgE

>>64321717

>They will be confiscated from owners

Sure they will.

>>64356572
>Anyway Japanese ppl who have decent English is rare
I inadvertently fucked the English myself kek

>>64354820
>Probably not, Japan is the country who created Indo-Pacific strategy, involved the Pacific Command in the Bay of Bengal and it is the pajeets who pressured anime characters to convince burgerland to do that.
US pacific command in Sylhet, Bangladesh

>>64324547
It's US woodland, they might have tweaked the colors a bit

What would happen if the Jeets started their own Special military operation?

>>64351106
I suppose that girl is making viewership bank making videos of vague easily transcribed geopolitical topics involving India

Less pajeet speak and more talk about/pics of Brens pls

BREAKING: Bangladesh's $2.2B Deal For Chinese J-10C Fighter Jets

Why did they change the Safety on the Bren 2? ti used to be a really nice switch on the 805

>>64366172
And they changed it to this little rinky dink selector, I always liked the HK style switches more

>>64361640
Why does he wear a mask?

>>64366659
Covid

If the AR 15 patents and technical package is open domain why don't countries just manufacture those? ik Bangladesh is looking into the BREN for 7.62x39 but, still

>>64337120
>>64322540
But they're gonna start a new production line in Bangladesh if it makes it past the trails so, is cost difference really that bad?

>>64318737 (OP)
Are those optics any good?

>>64318737 (OP)
LMG question:
The WW2 Johnson LMG used by paratrooper marines apparently had both an open and closed bolt modes. From an AR15 lower I can think of a pretty simple sear system that would lock the bolt to the rear when releasing the trigger on auto.

The purpose is to avoid cookoffs by keeping the weapon open bolt while in auto mode, but allows for closed bolt single shot operation.

Is anyone aware of this being used in other machine guns? Obviously it doesn't work in a fixed firing pin open bolt MG.

>>64368256
Stoner 63

>>64330009
besides being the ugliest rifle ever made?

>>64361460
>>64349763
Chinks on bangla tanks
Burgers on bangla soil
What are they really up to?

>>64318899
You're not the boss of me

>>64323488
Checked
Slavs already know how to squat in the street

>>64368271
Holy mother of kino
The rifle we should've had

>>64330009
gives me the ick

Why did GIGN get brens in 7.62x39?

>>64375194
Hope it will be useful, somehow now it looks like the western civil wars will start from France...

>>64375194
They wanted more barrier penetration

>>64326997
I raise you this one, since it seems to be what we're on track for unfortunately.

the bren 2 is a far better rifle than the ar15. give me one over the ar any day pls
>short stroke adjustable gas
>45deg switch
>folding stock
>bigger bolt mass (better/slower recoil especially auto)
>easy to change calibre. 223 to 7.62x39/300bo subsonic ezpz for ass-aulting
stoner niggers must stay quiet and let it happen. you are experiencing superior czechnology

>>64375194
BASED GIGACHAD FOLDED STOCK RUN AND GUN
folding stock is so sexy folding stock so smooth
folding stock make me groove
remove and its pistol

>>64340492
Dandia? And this could be the worst 4chin storytelling.

>>64375194
The way that I heard it from someone that knows, they weren't enamored of 5.56mm in short barrels (sensible) and they were concerned about ammunition availability in Africa (less sensible). When I asked about the second part and mentioned that, you know, they could just bring their own or something, I was told that not everyone has an American-level logistical system and that sometimes shit happens, so they wanted the option to source ammunition locally. I still don't completely understand that line of reasoning, but I've had other conversations with him before about other French procurements and everything else he said made sense. I don't think that he'd lie to me but who truly knows what goes on in the mind of a Frenchman?

>>64318758
Turkish ak clone is still in the race. I think different regiments will adopt different service rifles with the same caliber.
Meanwhile, many active army generals have been arrested today. There's a good chance that they will be hanged.

>>64378766
Who doesn't want the gun from the gun grabber company?

>>64368256
the FG42 did it

>>64383680
desu I'd still prefer it to the AK15 so I'm happy the deal never went though. For me it's
>Bren
>Turkish AK clone
>
>
>AK15
I like the concept of a service rifle with a polymer receiver that the G36 created and the bren is just a nicer gun than the AK clone. The AK clone is still a better gun than the train wreck that is the AK 15 though

>>64383680
nah I think it's over, it says the Bren was already adopted. The Army are only gonna have one rifle. Auxiliaries like the BGB and national guard still use type 56s, So I'm guessing the Army will all get Brens and everyone else will get hand me down Bd 08s.

If anything goes wrong getting the Bren licence it's defo gonna be the Turk AK since Bangladesh officials already visited them to sign some kind of production agreement. But, I heard those were for like air to ground missiles, bombs and drones

What's the /k/ consensus on 7.62x39 for service rifles, is it still a good caliber or is it severely outdated?

>>64318737 (OP)
You know, for a country that produces clothes. You'd think it would be easy to make some helmet covers

>>64318737 (OP)
They should be buying ar15s from palmetto state armoury and put some more money into drip,nvg monocular and laser modules instead. They will give them little edge compared to what they already have and is not cost effective.

It's a good rifle but come on, it's Bangladesh, they have better shit to be spending money on.

>>64380024
Watch this you fucking retard https://youtu.be/ixcv6NrRfsY

>>64375194
Easier to find AK mags in Paris

>>64356626
>he thinks they wont at least try
the 'buyback' is going to be used to collect info from PAL holder so that a later, more authoritarian-accepting Canada (Indian majority) will confiscate by force from the people dumb enough to sign up for the buyback in the first place. The gov knows there aren't enough funds to buy anywhere near the number of banned guns, it will first-come first-serve, and then data-mined.
Jannies plz dont ban because more of /k/ at large needs to know this information for the betterment of gun owners everywhere.

>>64318737 (OP)
Great rifle. Shoots fine. Muzzle device is weird but it works. Adjustable gas system is convenient.
Doesn't use an AR FCG which is alright but good luck using a FRT.
Disassembly isn't too complicated, more than an AR but not by much.
It just works.

>>64368256
True Velocity RM277 has an extra switch on the side that swaps between open and closed bolt.

>>64390963
Do you feel like the rifle is front heavy? I'm torn between the 16" for the longer gas system and the 14" for the thinner barrel.

>>64390963
>ch on right side
egh

>>64375194
They were told they must have HK's.
They told procurement to go fuck themselves and they'll choose what they want.
In otherwords they were just being French.

>>64391131
I'm wrong handed but I think I'm gonna switch it back anyways. I've been experimenting with it.

>>64391059
Rifle IS front heavy, ESPECIALLY when I slap my 762 Saker (2lbs) on it.
Hindsight being 20/20, I would have gotten the shorter barrel.

new Forgotten Weapons just dropped
https://youtu.be/XW9psVnYJAY?si=SIbcQSyrVY_DjIYp

>>64323921
Only by slaver expeditions to recapture the escaping feminists

>>64366172
Least when i used it I found the 805 version to be a bit too wide and the short movement on it made it extremely easy to accidentally put it on FA. Got caught on webbing easy.

>>64375194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW9psVnYJAY

TLDR. GIGN wanted to use big hollowpoint bullets with STOPPAN POWAR that do not penetrate walls inside houses. They also wanted a small form factor so they can conceal them in bags so the folding stock was a plus. And because it's a newer system it could be easily adjusted for subsonic rounds to be used with suppressors.

>>64388225
Outdated.

>>64388244
On ballistic helmet?

>>64390105
I don't think money is the problem when the current service rifle is getting almost 40 years old. Military standard looks better than their adversaries as well. Pakistan is probably the leading country standard wise in the region and Bangladesh used to be a part of it.

>>64388225
I mean it's serviceable, but you'd probably be better off with .300BLK if you wanted to go that route.

But even then, outside of like under 10" barrel length? 5.56(or 5.45) out preforms it. Flatter shooting, better velocity, better wounding, lighter weight ammo, you get the idea.

>>64396909
if you're not using it as an overgrown submachine gun round with the corresponding small form factor and barrel length it's not worth it, I agree
.300BLK is better for that if you have logistics but if you're scrounging ammo from decrepit soviet stockpiles in the middle of French Africa the way to go is 7.62x39