Thread 64353209

/msg/ - Military Surplus General

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Thread question: What are you reloading for this week, Anon?

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>>64353209 (OP)
If my crypto moons I’m buying a 1921 Thompson.

>>64353252
>if

>>64353252
>bitcoin up 5x from last crash
Missed my chance again. Oh well

>>64353209 (OP)
>What are you reloading for this week, Anon?
make a few more 25gr vs the 27gr Lee Navy loads to test out a lighter charge.
Also doing more research and tooling up for 577/450.

>>64353252
>he is about to redeem le thompson?
dump eet

>>64353607
It’ll be $1M by 2030

>>64353252
>If my crypto
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

i typically post on /pmg/ but figure you fags would enjoy this too.

>>64354571
Based.
>>64353252
>crypto
Little faggot

>>64353252
based retard.

Indians think crypto is a good thing so intrinsically the only logical conclusion is that crypto is a bad thing

>>64354555
>pic
cringe

/msg/- military surplus and financial theoretics

>>64354616
>crypto
Jewish and GAY

>>64354625
This is an upperclass hobby now, unfortunately. It’s going to be involved in upperclass discussions. I hate that 91/30s are $500 now.

>>64353209 (OP)
I promised myself I wouldn't but anymore guns but a m96/38 for $500 is tempting me. Should I do it bros? I used to have a m96 but sold it years ago.

Why is silvers increase so low relative to gold, gents?

>>64354432
What will cause crypto and milsurp to crash again so I can help perpetuate that?

>>64354695
Come ask on >>>/biz/pmg

>>64354704
Beg Blackrock to short BTC and ETH. Beg America, Russia, and China to fight a massive war so we can get postwar cheapies after the conflict.

>>64354714
>cheapies
Dude. If WWIII happens crypto is going to zero and precious metals are going past the Moon and into the next galaxy.

>>64354571
Ah, a fellow /pmg/ enjoyer. I missed the Aputania but I got two of the WAGMIs.
One day I'll get a pic of my soviet coins on my mosin.

>>64354704
milsurp will never crash as hard as we'd like it. But maybe eastern block imports again at some point and then the boomer die off will move the needle slightly, but never ever going back to $99 mosins.

>>64354722
Why do metalfags think it’s a competition?

>>64354705
Alright I’m back.
Apparently it’s the Jews again.

>>64354555
>>64354571
>>64354673
>>64354723
Can a bunch of Nazi coins buy me a house off of 10 years of investment/growth?

>>64354722
If WW3 happens you won’t be allowed to own it again and by that I mean you won’t be able to buy it anymore and you will run into online counterfeiters more often than not.

>>64354714
This all sounds beneficial to hebrews and, thus, detrimental to me, as per usual. No thank you.

Any one think outside the box here?

Threads cursed so I guess lets talk which surp you spent the most on.

>>64354782
Loogah

>>64354782
All of them.

>>64354743
Generally people who get defensive about their purchases have some remorse or regret.

>>64354782
>lets talk which surp you spent the most on.
Pic related. $1833 after shipping and theft.

>>64354753
>allowed
In upstate NY a man shot an IRS agent with an M1 rifle. The only shame is that the IRS didn't send 7 more agents, as the M1 holds 8 rounds.

>>64354822
>trading fiat for real money is a "purchase"

>>64354782
$2k on a garand.
it's not my most valuable milsurp though.
i got a 1942 luger for i think 1500 and inhereted my great great grand uncle's 1911 from WWI.

>>64354743
Why do milsurp fags think it's a competition?

>>64354911
>$2k
Hopefully there was something about this rifle that earned that pricetag?

>>64354985
it was my first and i didnt know any better because i didnt do any research.

>>64354905
Fantastic but unless he shit out gold upon being killed like we were in an MMORPG, most people won’t do that especially gold sellers. And we’re much less based than we were last time the gov did it.

>>64354995
Oh Jesus how long ago was that? I see cabelas trying that number now and I’m in a shit gun State.

>>64355002
Fedboi, you have a name and address
Do does your family

>>64355011
i was in connecticut, freshly got my gun loicenses, and wouldnt you know it at a cabelas.
also it was during peak covid freakout.

>>64355035
This can only be even close to excusable by being born after 9/11. Anon?

>>64355026
Listen retard. My point is shooting ATF bots will not suddenly make machine guns available in your LGS, but for gold

>>64354782
$4k is the most I dropped on a single thing. But the most I overpayed was probably $450 for a type 99 with mum and AA sights. seller didnt know it was a duffle cut, so when I took it apart when I got home I felt slightly mad.

Been meaning to get a pic of my M1C and M1 Carbine together. Only other surp I own is a Romanian M44

>>64353209 (OP)
Hey, that's my photo.

Ive finally added a Garand to my collection. Blew $1800, got a bunch of clips too.

This one was post war, put together in 1955. Now for a nice, slow, teardown...

>>64353607
If you're only buying it to dump it you might as well rob a bank, it's easier, faster, and hurts the bank. Just wear a simple disguise and hand the teller a note, their policy is to just hand it over to get rid of you.

>>64355164
>>64355166
Welcome to the club. Now you must make the pilgrimage to the Talladega range.

>>64355200
>Radom and Steyr
>No Walther
forgot the theme anon

Many many years ago I picked up one of those nickel plated yugoslavian tokarevs. My understanding is that they were handed out as ceremonial retirement gifts. If that's the case, then mine belonged to a fellow named Čeda Latinčic that retired in 1978.

Anyone else have one of these or similar? I didn't get lucky with my K31, so this remains the only surp where I (might) know the name of the previous owner.

>>64355304
>Čeda Latinčic
Yeah I like Latin chicks too

>>64355200
>no Walther
Anon there's a G.43.

>>64355268
Walther is right there between the Stg44 and the MG34.

Also, if you look in the back you will see a 1911A1 in an ammo can.

>>64353209 (OP)
Reloading nothing, carving my own rear upper handguard and rear half of the front handguard of a No. 1 MK III to graft to the remaining section. Was going to go with English walnut but I was going to pay about half of my rifle's value (which isn't much lol) for a small slab of it if I went that route. Used Black Walnut instead and somehow it seems it will end up being too light, go figure. I'll just have to boil some walnuts and stain the new wood to match. Actually thought I was going too dark at first.

>>64354691
I missed buying 91/30s when guys would bring them out for sale with all their accessories still sticky with cosmoline sitting in the summer sun. Yet not too long ago I bought a fucking Type 99 for like $120 needing somewhat minor work and I just bought a .410IM No. 1 MK III needing work (handguard, bolt, cleaning, refinish) for ~$80 that's getting a conversion to be a .410 shotgun and I'll probably be in it for less than $400 all in, including gunsmithing work. Hell of a market we have these days; I'm just very stingy about gun prices these days and I get stuff slow unfortunately, but at least I do find some good deals.

>>64354782
SKS ironically; I'm a cheap bastard and I refuse to pay retarded prices.

>>64355035
Their prices on M1 Garands and Carbines are crack-smoking-tier. Seriously, who the fuck buys them? Those rifles being in the "gun cave" (fancy $$$ gun room) behind glass says a lot about what they thing they can get for them.

>>64355449
>>64355523
You silly bastards. You know what I meant by my green arrow context.
And yes I saw the 2 World War Winner in the back can

>>64354782
$2500 on a Weimar Simson made Luger. Though I see future acquisitions being more expensive judging by the current wishlist.

CMP garands are truly done this time aren’t they

>>64357475
Maybe they’ll crash in price and I can buy one to rebarrel for 8mm mauser

>>64354571
>>64354723
You see, I’m larping both sides, so that I always get sent to the prison camp.

>>64353209 (OP)
The same thing I'm reloading for every week Pinky... 6.5 Jap Pinky and the Brain the Pinky and the Brain, one is a genious, the other's insane.

>>64357490
>crash in price
They’re shooting up to $3,000 the millisecond stocks completely dry up.

>>64357516
kino.
i need to get my eagles in this but that's gonna happen later in life.
all my PMs are deep in storage.

>>64357475
>Boomers once again their need to fuck over the younger generations
I don't understand why the fuck did the CMP allow people to purchase 8 a year for years, especially when you knew whose was constantly buying them to resell.

>>64353209 (OP)
/mobama/ attendee reporting for duty!

>>64358500
Michelle Obama?

>>64357688
CMP has wanted to get out of gun sales for a long fucking time.

>>64355193
Ty. Got her stripped down as far as i could, got it re-cleaned and lubed. Presently putting it back together, while some .06 i prepped yesterday finishes in the tumbler.

Ill need to scrounge up some more recent load data, a couple of the powders i was using arent available anymore. Havent done any serious reloads for several years. H380 was one, iirc.

>>64354782
$1800 on a luxemburg fn49 with a sanded stock just to find a columbian and another lux in for $1000 at the gun show the week after purchase.

>>64358781
>CMP has wanted to get out of gun sales

They've sure got a funny as fuck way of doing it since they are tooling up for the first M1 grand made in the USA out of actual new production parts since the 50s.

I'll be buying one while people who don't even own garands cope about it not being a REAL historical piece all while the CMP is making history in supporting marksmanship and arguably has trained more people to shoot competently than the NRA at this point.

>>64355119
Pardon my retardation, but why is $450 for a 99 with mum and AA sights a bad deal?

>>64358903
See this is why I’ve held off on a Fn49. Huge price flux person to person. I’m just trying to start with a beat to shit Egyptian for a grand but I’d love a 7mm one for not $600 more

>>64359039
BECAUSE YOU CAN EASILY GET THEM FOR 60$ OUT THE CRATE STILL WRAPPED IN WAX PAPER AT SMITH AND SONS HUNTING STORE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MONTGMERY WARDS. JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM MY COUSIN EDS APARTMENT COMPLEX.

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>>64359039
NTA but a duffel cut means it was cut down for a service member to put into his bag to bring back home, either didnt want to pay shipping or wasnt supposed to.

>>64359092
Yeah I understand duffel cuts, but isnt that pretty common with intact mums?

>>64359039
At the time (2016 money), that wouldve made it a $250 rifle. But I paid 450, which overall was still a bit much for the time even. That same table though, I bought a Carcano Cavalry carbine for $199.
In today money a Type 99 like it and known duffle cut would probably be 600 on the same boomer table

>>64359091
this too

>>64359107
>2016
>$250
>complaining that he paid 450
Please, God, i want to go back!

>>64359113
geezers used to plead to buy all surplus you possibly can because they sold Lugers by the barrel for 5$ some crazy shit like that but any case point is still made

>freedom boner intensifies

>>64357688
Itll be like boomers and their high dollar antiques. Bought low, supposed to sell high, but the markets flooding and prices are rock bottom.

>>64358905
Got a source for that? Last i heard there may or may not be some 1903s, 1917s, 1911s and Garands coming home from the Phillipines. This was about a decade ago, I live under a rock and its comfy af.

>>64359372
Fuck, forgot my pic like the cocksucking faggot i am

Is surp 8x56R supposed to be vicious or am I just being a little bitch? It definitely was harsh on the shoulder out of my long rifle when shooting from the bench today.

>>64359446
Get a load of this bitch guise

>>64359446
Are you aiming for that shade stand or are you just Zimbabwean?

>>64359446
Powerful cartridge + lightweight rifle + narrow buttplate = uncomfortable recoil. If the butt was flatter and wider or the rifle weighed a couple pounds more no-one would meme about 8x56R.

I want to go on a little adventure of going to local pawnshops and see if I can hit the jackpot, but I'm feeling like my expectations are too high and will end up being a waste of time just seeing cheap copy and paste ARs, has anyone found anything good at those places?

>>64359621
>Are you aiming for that shade stand or are you just Zimbabwean?
Obviously, I was practicing my volley fire.
>>64359665
>Powerful cartridge + lightweight rifle + narrow buttplate = uncomfortable recoil. If the butt was flatter and wider or the rifle weighed a couple pounds more no-one would meme about 8x56R.
That makes sense, the narrow buttplate definitely felt like a jab with every shot. I can normally tank 8x57 in most Mausers but the recoil in the M.95 was a bit more than I was expecting. Thankfully, I didn't get a carbine in 8x56R, I think I can tame the 8x56R with some practice.

>>64360026
its HIGHLY dependent on the overall market of surp in your local area.
Its not a bad way to spend a Saturday, but as you said, go in with extremely low expectations and be pleasantly surprised and maybe bring home a power tool that may or not have been stolen out of someones truck

>>64360026
Oh yeah. Best part is There’s no door price at a pawn shop. Just whatever gas you burn, but it does take consistency and lots of in-and-outs to hit the jackpot. I’ve found some of my favorite funs at hockshops, including milsurp. Some I’ve seen the past 5 years:
>nuggets most common, still trying to sell them at lockdown prices unfortunately
>nice yugos
>a 96/11 I should have bought
>a wartime p38
>flawless m95 shorty
>Portuguese Luger
>Sks’s in shit chassis, easy swap back if you got wood furniture
>1903 with odd bubba threadjob and nose
>imperial mausers intact
>1917s that are always butchered, (Unbutchered burgerenfield is my pawnfind white whale)
>various bayos
That’s just milsurp im remembering. There’s cool old commercial funs that can be way more shootable. I’m in a shit state too. Gonna be even shittier next year. Fuckin Polis

>>64360026
>has anyone found anything good at those places?
Not in a decade. All the 02FFLs within a 50 miles radius of me stopped renewing.

Restoration is getting there. Used a new piece of Black Walnut (American) to recreate the old front handguard's rear end. New HG piece has a tongue that goes under the old HG piece. Old HG has a little bit of the inside barrel channel carved out to accept the tongue; they will be epoxied together permanently, probably using Acraglas for the first time (god help me). Seam is just in front of the barrel band and the tongue extends about 1.5" or so. Interestingly the old HG is almost orange inside when carved into, similar to the color spar varnished oak has. The rest of the stock needs degreasing to get it to that "grey" color of the HG as well as the forestock (which needs repair as well). Previewing the color I'll get with a coat of finish on it with alcohol, it seems it'll likely all turn brown; Black Walnut repairs will need to be stained with natural walnut before being coated to colormatch. The worst part is knowing I have a rear handguard clip waiting for me to make a rear handguard for it so I have to do this all over again; IIRC this took me about two separate days working for a couple hours at a time. Luckily that piece seems a lot more decorative/protective and the barrel channel isn't as detailed or demanding in its dimensions; probably way less important for accuracy. Then I need some replacement hardware which I don't think will be too hard and a bolt (fuck!). At that point, it's up to the gunsmith to not fuck everything up when they rechamber which is a bit scary.
>Inb4 "bubba"
410 IM is a dead cartridge, this is a bottom of the barrel $80 gun that didn't sell for ~30 years after import, it has a good 2-3" of pitting in front of the chamber, and I want a fucking .410 shotgun SMLE.

Oi /k/, question time:
my k31 shoots very consistent groups when hot, like after 10-20 rounds im still in a 2 thumbs sized group at 120 yds.
my k98s stay in a tight group for like 5-6 shots but the groups get 2x bigger when hot.
not so good for competitions where 15 shots in 15 minutes are the rule, and one should stay below 2" group diameter to compete.
any other rifles known to man which do not significantly shift the point of impact when shot hot?

>>64360220
Universal background check states are fucking horrible for us. All the normies who find grandpa's M1 carbine in the closet sprint to collect $200 for it from a shop, only for it to be ludicrously marked up 'cause FFL's know they're the only legal option. My local area is awash in shitty AR builds and carry guns, so anything wood and steel is automatically deemed exquisitely rare. I have to make weekend trips out to "old rich folks who haven't price checked since the late 90's" territory to find any deals.

What's a jungle carbine (real one not bubba) going for these days?

>>64361968
usually around the 400s depending on condition. maybe 5s

>>64360608
Swede Mauser’s are really good
I was sighting in my sniper (which is just a converted M96) and was hitting like 3 inch groups 50 rounds in at 100m (keep in mind though I was adjusting the sighting every couple of rounds so it was a little skewed)

>>64353209 (OP)
On Saturday I finally got out and tested out some reloads for my M1 Garands and they functioned perfectly. It’s the first time I’ve been to the range in about a month. I’m typing this from the hospital. I got my gallbladder removed and a stent put in my main bile duct almost 4 weeks ago, and I’ve had 5 ER visits and 3 hospital admissions in the past month. I’ve had 2 blood infections since all this. So they pulled the stent out earlier today and I’m on IV antibiotics so hopefully this goddamn nightmare is over.

Anyway, I used to use IMR-4064 for my 30-06 loads, but it’s drastic price increase and availability decrease made me explore other options. I settled on N135 due to its burn rate being really close to IMR-4064, and its cost being substantially cheaper. It worked just fine so I’ll be doing 30 cal ammo cans worth of reloads whenever I have time. On another personal note that’s pissed me off due to this hospital BS
>our 3 week fall outage started yesterday at the plant I work at
>was supposed to go to work and make double time all day, over $100 per hour
>instead I was sick and admitted to the hospital
>fuck my life

>>64354023
Neat. Good luck with the Lee Navy reloads. I have a dream one day to “steal” a Lee Navy from a local auction because nobody knows what it is.

>>64354694
Yeah. You know how good Swede Mausers are, so you should get another one.

>>64354782
I believe it was pic related. But it was a package deal with a bunch of ammo and a bayonet. I don’t remember exact cost, around $1700-$1800?

>>64359446
I believe it does have some stout recoil, though I’ve never shot surp 8x56r, just my own reloads which aren't quite as hot. But I mean you’re ahooting a 208 grain bullet which is quite a heavy bullet, and surp ammo is typically loaded fairly “hot.”

>>64353209 (OP)
On Saturday I finally got out and tested out some reloads for my M1 Garands and they functioned perfectly. It’s the first time I’ve been to the range in about a month. I’m typing this from the hospital. I got my gallbladder removed and a stent put in my main bile duct almost 4 weeks ago, and I’ve had 5 ER visits and 3 hospital admissions in the past month. I’ve had 2 blood infections since all this. So they pulled the stent out earlier today and I’m on IV antibiotics so hopefully this goddamn nightmare is over.

Anyway, I used to use IMR-4064 for my 30-06 loads, but it’s drastic price increase and availability decrease made me explore other options. I settled on N135 due to its burn rate being really close to IMR-4064, and its cost being substantially cheaper. It worked just fine so I’ll be doing 30 cal ammo cans worth of reloads whenever I have time. On another personal note that’s pissed me off due to this hospital BS
>our 3 week fall outage started yesterday at the plant I work at
>was supposed to go to work and make double time all day, over $100 per hour
>instead I was sick and admitted to the hospital
>fuck my life

>>64354023
Neat. Good luck with the Lee Navy reloads. I have a dream one day to “steal” a Lee Navy from a local auction because nobody knows what it is.

>>64354694
Yeah. You know how good Swede Mausers are, so you should get another one.

>>64354782
I believe it was an AG-42B. But it was a package deal with a bunch of ammo and a bayonet. I don’t remember exact cost, around $1700-$1800?

>>64359446
I believe it does have some stout recoil, though I’ve never shot surp 8x56r, just my own reloads which aren't quite as hot. But I mean you’re shooting a 208 grain bullet which is quite a heavy bullet, and surp ammo is typically loaded fairly “hot.”

>>64363056
>>64363063
Jesus fuck sorry for the double post. I aborted a post to fix a grammar error, then it said I mistyped a captcha, then it said a duplicate file existed, so I changed the pic. My bad. Maybe I’m still loopy from the anesthesia.

Minty Polish m44 worth $500 before theft?

>>64364108
>Minty Polish m44 worth $500 before theft?
I paid the same for one that was less nicer condition, so I would say yeah.

>>64364172
You’ve convinced me. Going back tomorrow. Fuck fuck fuck. Some other guy was looking at her.

I gotta get her now. They had it as UNIDENTIFIABLE. FUCK fuck fuck. Need kurva nugget

>>64364213
My philosophy is Cry once, Buy once, you can always resell it if you don't like it. That said if you missed out, the universal seems to slight you into an advantage and another one will show up sooner and probably cheaper.
That's my 2 pennies, do whatever with them.

>>64364249
I know I know I know. That’s a normal asking price for a wartime 91/30 in my area fuck fuck fuck what was I thinking. They have layaway.

And an M57 for $350! Shit shit shit

>>64364272
They just put the Tok out that day fuck! Fuck

>>64364249
>>64364272
I could have bought more and I didn't! I remember $99 Mosins and thinking they were an awesome deal!
I wanted to buy more (a Tula, hex receiver, etc...) but people made fun of the one I had, called them garbage rods, and told me to save up for a $1000 AR-15 instead.

>>64364108
Bro you should have just pulled up completed gunbroker auctions on your phone at the store to get an idea on price, then bought it because $500 for a nice Polish M44 is a fair price.

>>64364833
I did! And my tired from work ass thought
>well that’s not really a deal if gunbroker boomers are asking that price
Fuck I’m stupid. I hope I get off work early. That store is a town over. Fuck she was a smoking hot blonde piece of ass too

>dick status: MUH
55gn of hogdon superperformance, 165gn hornady sst, cci#200 primers. Only 16 rounds, what i got floating around. The DP clip has hornady ssts also, at 180gn.

>>64360220
Pawns can be a good place for surps, i got my bubba'd k11 (rechambered to 308) and a 1878 trapdoor... Its the real deal, far as i can tell. Prices can be wild, but you can haggle some.

>>64360338
>SMLE
mah nigga. Which smelly? I dont lurk as often as id like.

>>64363056
Thats rough, got my fingers crossed for ya. What was your grouping like? I liked H380 for .06 and .303, but its hard to come by in my area.

>>64364272
>>64364326
Fuck the haters, i love my garbage rod. Its a '25 Tula hex, arsenal matched. Came out of a crate with the pouch, sling, and cosmoline. Not even counter bored. Paid about $350 for it. Go get her, and love her tenderly.

>>64364914
>Which smelly?
No 1 MK III. Missing bolt, a screw or two, and all of the upper handguard except front half; the part in front of the rear sight is a hand made, hand fit repair I did over about two days. London Small Arms, IIRC a 1918. Converted to .410 Indian Musket in 1931, the magwell plugged with a wood block and a follower on top to act as a loading tray. Rear sight adjustment pinned in place. I'm getting it bored to .410 shotshell eventually; maybe I'll thread it and have (possibly) the only .410 SMLE threaded for chokes in the US and if not, almost certainly the only silenced 410 SMLE at least in the US if I do end up buying a 410 silencer. I don't really tend to permanently modify modify any gun made more than 20 years ago but considering they didn't sell for about 30 years after import and these are damn close to the worst examples, I'm making an exception for the barrel work so it's shootable without having to have an entire reloading setup. Stock was soaked in what I think is used motor oil considering the color it turned the wood and the smell.
>I dont lurk as often as id like.
Nah I only posted pics of this originally in the last /k/ Projects (or /k/ Create?) thread since we didn't have a /gsg/ (Gunsmithing General). First time posting this in /msg/. Unfortunately MK III parts are a little more uncommon than they were like 2-3 years ago and now it's the MK IV parts all over the place so I'm still looking. Might just say fuck it and lurk gun shows and flea markets for the parts. Can't exactly buy the parts outright even if they were cheap; I added up some costs for hunting this year and it's looking like $300 for what I "need" between tags and supplies, then possible ammo needs, then I'm thinking about putting together a new gun which comes to about $1k with possible additional costs/additions over the summer. So I'm stretching my money pretty fucking thin lol.

>>64364914
And when I say bad, I mean BAD. What sucks more is that this is an original LSA stamped stock as well. Degrease, stock screw hole plug/redrill, Acraglas to reattach chip, and a re-coat in this stock's future. A lot of crumbly wood on this gun, especially when wet.

>>64364982
>>64365002
Hell yeah. My favorite in my collection is a 1917 No.1 Mk.3., BSA. Marks suggest it got a little time in the trenches then went to British India for a while. Shoots better than I do some days. Its been sported, but the barrel is intact. Im missing the screw in the cocking lever, the butt is original and the forgrip. The rest of the stock, the volley sights and mag cutoff are missing.. Someday ill not be a poorfag and be able to restore it. The bayonet will be a bitch tho, i want a p.1907 sword bayo without the quillion. If your woodwork js good, consider putting the plans up for enthusiasts.

As I get older and my eyes fail, I turn more to optics for my funs. Gotta save my pennies and get a no drill rail for my smelly and nugget, never mind the scopes. One for my new Garand would be cool, but afaik it cant be done.

>>64365064
Nice rifle, anon. Certainly better condition than mine lol.
>The bayonet will be a bitch tho, i want a p.1907 sword bayo without the quillion.
I just bought a knife bayonet I came across in person because my spike bayonet I remembered I had was for a MK IV. ...Aaaaand the knife bayonet is also for a MK IV because I'm retarded. It was $15 though and the blade is covered in cosmo.
>As I get older and my eyes fail, I turn more to optics for my funs. Gotta save my pennies and get a no drill rail for my smelly and nugget, never mind the scopes. One for my new Garand would be cool, but afaik it cant be done.
Surplus and old guns are the best and worst thing for me. I love old guns. However my eyes are shit for distance; despite being an avid small game hunter that can spot a grey squirrel on leaves and near grey treetrunks 60-70+ yards out, iron sights can be torture when I have anything but one of those massive shoot-n-see targets with a 4"x6" red center and I don't think I'll ever hunt small game with irons. Maybe deer with irons. I don't seem to do bad with irons at the range when I try but I feel so much more confident with a scope FWIW. That does mean I get to buy used D&T'd surp and old hunting rifles at a possible discount and use a scope of choice with no guilt, though.
>scopes
I tend to like the $300 Leupold scopes for their toughness and zero holding capability FWIW but even that price is a big ask at times when you really stretch thin on cash (ie. you just bought a gun, and ammo, and...). Their rings are dirt cheap, though (~$30) and they also work better than $30 rings ever should. And at that price they even have torque specs for the fasteners which is a LOT more than I can say about many other brands I have to throw a wild guess out for and hope I don't strip the chinesium-tier aluminum ring's threads.

>and spot squirrels on near-grey treetrunks
Not spot squirrels NEAR the treetrunks. My lord I have a way with words.

>>64365064
>If your woodwork js good, consider putting the plans up for enthusiasts.
Fug forgot to comment on that. I have no real measurements; I'm pretty much just tracing the stock and cutting the channel to roughly the specs I can work out from the half of the original handguard I do have. Rough (eyeballed) measurements and shaping is done via my favorite method: "Damn, I can't afford to replace this part at these prices! Oh I know, I'll buy the part anyways so I can measure it and make it myself anyways and double the cost." LOL. Weirdly enough the front handguard "lifts" off the stock with the real original HG I have as well (back at the "fingers" aside the rear sight) so it's not my wood being out-of-flat, it's the forestock. Measuring would take too long unless I was CNCing it (god I wish). This is 100% trace with a pencil, plane the thing down to roughly the right shape, use HF gouges to make the barrel channel, sand, sand, sand, files?, sand some more, find out the barrel still rubs, sand some more, huh I wonder how close I am to punching through this skinny piece of wood, oh god the barrel band channel has been skewed this whole time, use a box cutter like a chisel, sand some more, okay it fits, sand some more, and it's still oversize.

>>64364249
>always resell it
>he sells his guns

>>64365364
>hoarding
OK Boomer.

If you were to use one lubricant for your milsurp for the rest of your life, what would it be? I'm running out of my Lucas Oil and need a new suggestion.

>>64365772
>If

Finally put together my vz61 and im trying to statistically put shit on it.
The very few scope mounts out there are sold out or got extra shit and are the price of the scorpion itself.

Anyone here McGyverd sights on these things?

My stock wrist repair failed me lads. It was Saturday and I'm still mad

>>64365772
>>64366310
I second Ballistol, it's not exceptional in any way (except for black powder), but can do everything.
I filled a big ecig juice container I bought at an ecig shop with Ballistol and that bottle lives in my AR's stock.
Has actually come in handy before, having it at hand

>>64365542
Not him but I'm 35 and I'm not selling a damn thing. I've sold in the past but always regretted it

>>64359446
Nah, I own a long rifle in 8x56 and it is a very snappy recoil, it's not a push but a hard slap.
It's a beautiful piece of art, but it's by far the least pleasurable of my milsurps to shoot

>>64359091
>2006 Taurus
Taurei are good cars

>>64353252
My crypto mooned but now I'm afraid to spend that money as its a great nest egg.

>>64366611
I've sold 14 guns in the last 5 years and don't miss a single one of them; I wouldn't have sold them if I still had any affection for them. These are all strictly emotional investments to me so I consider the money spent on them irrecoverable because in order to recover that money I would have to give up the gun. So if there comes a time when I don't feel anything for a gun I consign it to a local auctioneer.

>>64365105
>>64365112
>>64365261
Your command of the english language is impeccable, anon.

I feel that about scopes tho. My biggest is a noname amazon special, 6x40 or some shit. Got it on sale for $50, and its fuckin metric lel. Its put up with the abuse well, and if i focus it in just perfect i can count bullet holes at 1000 yards

Any of you autists able to id this thing we found in our granddads closet
There's no markings except a fairly crude serial number, looks like a

Posting some other angles too

>>64368971
*Looked like some type of mauser or something, I do not know

>>64368971
>>64368977
nice dubs
>>64368983
>>64369000
nice trips
>>64369017
Japanese Carcano Type 1

>>64368445
I tend to buy scopes veeeeeerrry slow, maybe one a year at that. I don't have good luck with used or Chineseium scopes so I tend to try and spend enough to guarantee it won't get bumped off zero or do funny things. Then again I spend a lot less per (surp/old) gun than most on /msg/ and buy a lot less. I also dump cash into hunting like crazy lol. Gets me out of the house and forces me to get up early and have a good sleep schedule. Not necessarily a healthy one though lol.

>>64368971
>>64368977
>>64369000
That safety and cocking piece screams carcano FWIW but can't say for sure or what model. S/N also looks similar in font and formatting to my carbine. That thing is in very nice shape, damn.

>>64368971
>>64368977
>>64368983
>>64369000
>>64369017
Japanese Type I. A joint venture between Japan and Italy. Its essentially its a Type 38 with a Carcano action. its in 6.5 Japanese

Its in great shape. Granpda either took good care of it or never touched it.

>>64369038
>Japanese Carcano Type 1
this is a common misunderstanding but it isnt the number one, its the letter I for Italian. unironically.

>>64369090
>this is a common misunderstanding but it isnt the number one, its the letter I for Italian. unironically.
Oh wow you're right! I didn't notice. It's self-evident given the japanese name, イ式小銃, since "イ" is the katakana (script for foreign loan words) for the letter "i".
(sorry, I'm a milsurp/weeb/etymology autist. this is like three of my interests rolled into one)

Took my shiney new M1 out today, loaded 50 more rounds. Got a box of speer boat tails, in 165gn. Still got 55 gn of superperformance for propellant, bugger shot damn good. Consistently hitting my favorite plate at 300 yards. I did put my sissy pad on though.

>>64369045
Yeah, i lucked out with that amazon special. When my money problems get sorted i plan to do a no drill/mill rail on my nugget with a decent scout scope for that long ass eye relief. Just gotta bring it into work for the torches to melt the silver solder.

>>64368971
I am so jealous, I will never get to inherit any cool guns

>>64369038
>>64369045
>>64369090
Thank you anons. We're supposed to put this in the estate auction but I really wanted it and the Sears Marlin .22 plinker so I'm going to attempt to buy it instead. I already have his katana he brought home so I think the rifle would make it a cool pair.

>>64369120
Very common mistake with type i’s. You looking to sell it?

>>64369328
you better, that is the nicest Type I I have ever seen.
>have to buy it rom the estate
omega gay. hopefully you get bargain pricing.

>>64353607
hold and wait till 250k

>>64369358
I will probably continue to hold my 0.0000 wallets until I die

>>64369328
Who are you buying it off of? uncle? grandma? do they know what it is and/or care?
A fair price would be about 500 bucks, but itll depend on who your dealing with/family relations.

>>64369402
It's being executed by my sister, as she is the nearest relation that is mentally capable. I have an okay relationship with her, and she was the one that was cool with me taking home the sword when it was found but I do wonder if she'd be willing to forego the auction process and take like 600-650 for it and the Marlin/Sears plinker.

>>64369421
600 is fine if you want to ensure you get it from your sister. one in the condition that is in in today money will run 600-700 so youre not overpaying by much. And without a guarantee family discount and it sounding like saying 400-500 bucks might not be a sure thing 600 is a good reach.

>>64369438
Thats not even overpay for one in that nice of condition considering a third party buyer would likely have tax, shipping, and ffl tacked on.

I want to look at pictures of WW2 soldiers having secondary standard or second line arms, anyone have any?

>>64371815
A few. German occupation troops in Norway with Yugoslavian M.95M rifles.

US Navy sailor on guard duty with a Krag-Jorgensen rifle. Supposedly the USN even placed a 1942 order for .45-70 ball (the M1895 smokeless load).

US Marines with a Japanese Type-I Carcano rifle, IIRC this is on Saipan. Strongly suggesting that contrary to the established lore these Type-I rifles did see combat during WW2.

British Home Guardsman with a SMLE Mk.I*** fitted with rifle grenade discharger (cup) and anti-tank grenade.

The Brits were buying up/issuing out almost anything that would shoot after the fall of France and the feared German invasion; they even purchased Colt Single-Action Army revolvers in 1940. These Winchester M1907s might be contemporary commercial Winchester purchases or perhaps leftover stock from the RFC/RAF orders during WW1.

Luftwaffe ground forces with quite a variety of rifles. Nearest the camera are two Belgian Mauser M89/36s, then a French Berthier M07/15, then a Kar.98k, then another 89/36, and further down the line the distinctive magazine shape of the Mannlicher M.1895 appears visible.

Waffen-SS with a variety of submachine guns: MP-28, MP-41, and Suomi KP-31.

Most of the US 2nd Division still had M1903 rifles when they landed in France on D+1 June 7th 1944.

>>64371815
Ottoman Soldiers with M1866 Winchesters

Bulgarian troops with captured Ottoman M1866s

>>64370939
>that Click Clack
I’ve recently fallen in love with them after fixing my Uncle’s.

>>64371839
>US Navy sailor on guard duty with a Krag-Jorgensen rifle. Supposedly the USN even placed a 1942 order for .45-70 ball (the M1895 smokeless load).
You meant .30 army surely?

>>64372666
pretty sure he's implying that they still had 1885 Rem Lees on a boat somewhere

>>64371859
>that motherfucker ready to raid a trench like his daddy did at the Marne

>>64371945
I’m guessing that was somewhat intentional too and not just slow logistics

>>64372714
I've seen a few pics, mostly from North Africa and Italy, of guys with Springfields that have rifle grenade launchers next to guys with Garands, presumably acting as a grenadier, but that doesnt seem to be whats happening there?

>>64372763
I would presume army higher ups thought the M1 would not perform well on a combat beach landing.
I would agree and I wasn’t even born in 1885

>>64370939
>that Arisaka
Reconstruction didn't go far enough.

>>64373004
>confederate arisaka

>>64364108
Anon did you go back and buy it?

>>64370939
hey Ivan

Speaking of M44s. There's a guy selling an M44 and M91/30 in separate listings. He's got them each listed for $500 which is not stupidly high, so I feel like I could either one down to $300 individually.
But, I know he's gonna decline if I hit him with "give me both for $600."

>>64373560
No I got gay aids instead

>>64370939
Need Canadian dumper gf

>>64373847
Why would you consider $500 for a 91/30?

/msg/ raid to save the Type 11 from the Monterey Country Sheriff's office when?

>>64373847
700 would give you a better chance. 300 for the 91/30, 400 for the m44

>>64370939
Savage/Springfield/Stevens 87A spotted. They like CCI 1080s btw. Quiet, too.

>>64374211
>felon possession of firearm
>attempted illegal sale of machinegun in CA
its so fucking over for that gun

What is the worst looking milsurp you guys have cleaned up?

>>64374211
How did a methhead get his hands on a type 11

Which surp are you keeping for yourself?
Which one are you giving to that guy who still owes you $20?

>>64375343
Probably >>64364982 and I'm still working on it. Really should get on acetone bath-ing the stock but I know the forestock is going to be a PITA because of its length.

>>64376183
>Which one are you giving to that guy who still owes you $20?
I was going to say I'm keeping them all to myself, but,
>Here bro, here's YOUR gun
>[is a .410IM SMLE ammo does not exist for and still can't accept .410 shotshells]

>>64375573
Probably stole it but California doesn't allow full funs so maybe it came from out of state. Hopefully its registered so it can go back to its owner and not be destroyed.

>>64376203
Sell the 410 Enfield to your local cracker barrel so they can display it on the wall of random shit.

Are (you) a bad enough dude to spend 54k on a roach Luger?
https://simpsonltd.com/products/X4858

>>64376944
Lol, just like those beater single shot break action 12ga shotguns they have on the wall; always wondered if they were functional and what happened to them if a location ever closed. Also the nu-CEO (?) wants to get rid of all the shit that makes Cracker Barrel actually interesting including the old man on the sign (ie. Cracker Barrel without the cracker). They're supposedly "totally not doing it omg guize" but who knows.

>>64377573
It was fake outraged to get cracker barrel attention, there was a Reddit post where the announcement of the “new” logo was heavily botted with negative responses.

>>64375343
B-Grade Steyr M95 from RTI that was on sale. Was an absolute mess but at least it isn't missing any parts. Used citric acid to remove all the rust.

>>64376183
>Which one are you giving to that guy who still owes you $20?
This one.
>Which surp are you keeping for yourself?
SKS or M1.

>>64376183
>Which surp are you keeping for yourself?
all of them
>Which one are you giving to that guy who still owes you $20?
he aint gettin shit wheres my $20?

>>64377888
You do anything to the wood? After the acid on the metal, did you apply to any sort of oil?

>>64377888
>RTI
bought a 1922 TS Carcano carbine from them and I'm not kidding when it was literally caked in about 5lbs of cosmoline in the bag. Went to open it at my FFL on pickup and he shook his head and said "you're gonna want some disposable gloves and an entire roll of paper towels"

despite the absurd amount of cosmoline the magwell and barrel were rusty as fuck, and took about 6 hours of meticulous scrubbing with various pipe cleaners and copper brushes to get it presentable. The rifling unfortunately is so gone I cannot land two shots on the same target unless I use the proper rounded tip 6.5 carcano ammo. Spitzers just shit the bed and fly in any which direction. I'm talking a 3x3 foot cardboard target too, and hilariously my friends full length carcano has 2moa at 100 yards still with spitzers

>>64379675
to be fair, if you wanted a precision milsurp you should have known better than to get anything from the Ethiopian haul. True theres been a few gems out of there, but 95% of them are roached (rhinoed?) and are only good as box checks or parts guns.

if you want an accurate milsurp, save your shekels until you can afford a schmidt-rubin.

Any Steyr-Hahn havers in here want to give me the quick and dirty about 9mm vs 9mm steyr ones?

>>64380554
the 9mm ones are easier and cheaper to get ammo for

9mm steyr ammo is usually unreliable if vintage surplus and new ammo is expensive

otherwise they are basically the same gun

>>64372158
Ottomans you say?

>>64380750
we never did get around to string pulling it did we?

>>64380764
unfortunatly no. The mystery of what is wrong with it will have to wait until I get access to it and take it shooting again (This will take years)

>>64380668
are there tell tale signs between 9mm/9mm steyr ones, such as manufacturer or contract, SN?
Im assuming i would need a down pressured 9mm round cause old timey pistol?

>>64380784
They would have Wehrmacht eagles on the lower receiver.

>>64380784
all of the 9mm parabellum ones will have nazi eagles and "P.08" stamped on the slides

>>64380784
>cause old timey pistol?
Are you implying 9x19mm is not an old-timey cartridge?

>>64380804
implying that modern 9mm loads are not the same as old timey loads.

>>64380784
Euro-spec turn of the century ammo was SIGNIFICANTLY hotter than generic modern loads.
.32ACP made by the krauts and frogs in WWI were HOT AS FUCK, almost on par with 9mm loads produced in the US at the same time.
Meanwhile 'Murrican .38APC was almost as hot as modern .38Super.

SAAMI specs and modern 'murrican reloading manuals are ultra-conservatives and cucked as fuck to appease the American corporate liability lawyers.
You can easily exceed the maximum pressures in modern reloading manuals with at least %30 with zero risk of anything actually exploding provided you aren't shooting the worst and most niggeriffic cast-zinc Saturday night special imaginable.

>>64380954
dangerously based

>>64353252
get gold or silver you faggot

>>64379675
>spitzers
Yeah. I got a TS when they first rolled in early 2020 and immediately ordered 200rds of PPU at 65cpr. Had the exact same issues as you and chalked it up to being a 100+ year old WWI gun. Found out only a few months ago that PPU loaded the wrong size bullets, so they're too small to engage the rifling. Check your bullet diameter with a set of calipers, or by lot code. Can't remember if they even fixed the issue.

>>64379703
Ackchyually. Most Carcano carbines are coming out of Italian police storage. Ethiopians didn't cosmoline their shit and left it all in an open barn.

>>64378695
Heat gun, hot soapy water, elbow grease, and two coats of raw flax seed oil.

>>64378695
>>64381582
The handguard was completely warped, so I soaked it in boiling water, c-clamped it to a small piece of pvc (with a similar diameter to the barrel), and let it sit for a week as it dried. Fits perfectly now.
As for the metal, I also boiled the parts and oiled them. I think I just used ballistol.

Definitely not the most professional or thorough restoration job, but it's at least clean and functional.

wait M8A1 doesnt fit M1 carbine?

>>64381617
>>64381582
I'm curious is coating the wood in oil based on how you want it to look or is two coats enough and call it day?

>>64379675
>>64381582
Carcanos are trash and only poor people like them. The are the nuggets of the 2020s

>>64382024
this is a good thing

>>64381938
Mostly just for some amount of protection after the deep cleaning. I'd read somewhere that they originally used raw flax seed oil back in the day, and it gives a slightly darker look than BLO, so I went with that. I prioritize originality over something that might look nicer but be inaccurate. More coats probably wouldn't hurt, but it's stored indoors in a cool dry area now so I'm not too concerned about it.

>>64381931
>wait M8A1 doesnt fit M1 carbine?
Nope, you need M4 bayonet.

>>64380778
How is the 1912? I've been wanting one, and I'm curious about how well it loads from the stripper clip and how it feels to shoot

At what point do you have a "collection?" I'm at five surps now, and I feel like I can call that something like a collection, at least more than I could when I only had two

anywhere between 7-10. maybe start at 5 if at 5 you already have a theme going.

>>64382802
anywhere between 7-10. maybe start at 5 if at 5 you already have a theme going.

>>64382787
I had one that was shit with a really bad trigger, and the one I have not shoots really nice and is a lot of fun.

>>64382802
A collection implies a specific topic and an attempt to gather insight and nuanced examples of the topic of your collection. The end goal is enough examples and supporting materials in said topic to comprehensively tell the history and story of your interest

"5 milsurps" is more of a random accumulation

>>64382827
Shut up, faggot.

>>64382840
nice accumulation

>>64359372
I sauced myself. Illl repost for my underdark dwelling bretheren:

https://thecmp.org/introducing-the-m1-garand-by-cmp-a-new-chapter-begins/

>>64365105
Cant say much about that, its almost fully bubba'd. Missing much furniture, but the barrel is whole and no drilling for optics.

>>64375573
Stealing it from a other meth head. Or some sort of weapons grade tism, if i had to guess. Someday I'll have a Lewis Gun in .303, and I'll be able to bask in the Glory of Zeon.

>>64376183
Where mah moneh biatch? I wanted that $20 20 years ago, according to The Book of Grudges.

>>64382802
The definition is subjective. I would consider 3 to be a collection.

>>64382802
When you meet someone with fewer ‘surps than you.

>>64382847

What's it called when you have 43 of the same rifle?

>>64382024
Milsurp is supposed to be cheap.

>>64382943
if there is nothing interesting about them, thats called a hoard

>>64382954
Lmao,

What a pedestrian opinion.

>>64382957
museums don't have 43 of the exact same thing on display. if you have 43 of the same gun you better have an actual collection.

>>64382948
buying a crate of nuggets does not make you a collector

>>64382963
>>buying a crate of nuggets does not make you a collector
Yes it does.

>>64382965
tell us what museum you leant your crate to so we can visit your esteemed collection

>>64382969
Not him. I would never give my glorious nugget box away.

>>64382963

>Having a bunch of different guns it not a collection, it's an accumulation

>Having a bunch of the same gun isn't a collection, it's a hoard.

-Me when I'm a broke nigger coping hard.

>>64382975
he did not state there was anything interesting about his 43 same guns.
If you have all the major variations, accessories and materials to comprehensively cover the topic then you have a proper collection. 43 unremarkable examples is clutter

Oh, you need ALL the major variation to have a collection?

What if you only have most of the major variations? Not a collection?

What if you only want examples of M44 carbines?

What if you only like Kar98k rifles? 20 of them with minor variation isn't a collection since you don't have every major variant of a Mauser 98 ever made?

Obviously no, that's retarded.

>>64382991
>he doesn't understand how collection scope works.
You have to PICK YOUR TOPIC for it to b a collection.
everything you listed are examples of specific collections.

Having 5 random guns without any specification is not a collection.
Having 5 major variations of the same gun that cover the various stages of production is a great collection.
Collection vs accumulation is determined all in the dedication to a specific topic.
You can have 100 random shitty guns and still not a have a collection.

>>64383006

Aren't you the blithering idiot who saw an clear example of a US WWII small arms collection and said it was an accumulation?

>a collection needs DIVERSITY otherwise it's just a hoard!!
>a collection needs a THEME otherwise it's just mindless accumulation!!!
Derailing a thread by splitting hairs over arbitrary definitions that nobody gives a shit about?
>>64382991
>reddit spacing
It all makes sense now.

Normal economic principles don't apply to milsurp guns, supply does not influence prices anymore

>>64384276
Anon, I think at least half of/k/ are redditors at this point. Double spacing is off the charts and retarded tribalistic behavior is very high as well. The only difference between this and reddit is you can still get away with calling someone a nigger

>>64384276
What if I get guns I think are cool and that's it

who even cares anymore. Collect/accumulate/hoard whatever you want just post it.

>>64384893
Posting is pointless, we've all seen each other's guns. At least that one fucker is gone who spammed every fucking thread with his collection like it was always his personal thread.
Either way, milsurp is dead, and boomers and zoomers killed it

>>64385238
>post it again
with pleasure

>>64385381
Nah he was a tripfag, I don't remember what he called himself

>>64382965
No, that makes him a scalper, because hes gonna keep the nicest one and put the rest on gunbroker

>>64385238
What happened to the dude that "inherited his weird uncles gun safe" every year that had a bunch of good examples? I seem to recall a rocket gun and a couple of lugers...

>>64386073
That's gay, I keep all my guns.

>>64384276
Cry faggot

>>64385238
>Posting is pointless, we've all seen each other's guns.
Surely no one is shy of posting their personal firearms on an archived website

>>64386475
Shit the styer Hahn is a vibe. You still need a red 9 mauser and a p38. Centerfire has some post war in stock. Simpsons will have nicer ones.
I only have the luger, but it's an erfurt and a ww2 bring back from my great grandfathe

>>64385381
Sure, I'll post pics I've already posted many times over

>>64386475
No need to use such words man. There's hatred eating away at your brain, stop it.

>>64386668
My heart overflows with love for you as a fellow bother in Christ. But you are still a faggot.

>>64386589
Thank man.

I have a Spreewerk P38 and a 7.63 Broomandle.

The Steyr is a really fun pistol to shoot, just a pain to get the 8mm Steyr. Someday I hope to get a 9mm barrel for it or a 9mm model.

>>64386687
No, and you will never ever be a christian in your life unless you let go of that primitive, addictive, unjastified hatred for your fellow men.

>>64386700
It does, and I will pray you become less of a faggot.

>>64386475
That really nice color on the grips on the hahn, was that how it came or did you do something to it?

>at a show yesterday
>guy wants $2400 for a basic intact 1917
>laugh internally
>he keeps trying to talk to me about the most esoteric wildcat cartridges imaginable that bubbas of the past have made from the rest of the cut up burgerenfields
>walk away and go over if I should insult him a little next walk around or just be frank and say that’s not gonna happen and he might get that online.
>say nothing and don’t visit his table again until the end of the show
>it’s gone
>surely he just put it away
>nope
>he sold it for $2500
This was a good gun state too. It has been in my head rent free since and I have been at a low level seethe since even after waking up.

>>64387920
Thank guntubers, reddit, and the kike style salesmanship of boomers. Two created the obscene demand, one made sure everyone was ripped off.

>>64387920
>>64388292
US surp always brings in the mouth breathers who know nothing about what they usually go for, but will get caught up in the moment because it's US surp.

I see it all the time at auctions. Run of the mill M1903s and M1917s selling for $2k+ to someone in person, while all the online bidders dropped off before it reached $1k.

>>64387920
Whenever ive seen a boomer price something WAY off base from the rest of the show and then its suddenly missing its usually one of his braindead boomer buddies bought it

>>64388326
Women and retards make everything so expensive.

I just buy guns that look cool.

You gents would probably be the most knowledgeable here about this.

Best bore rust abatement techniques? Barrel is stripped off receiver and of parts. Retaining any blueing optional.

>>64387920
I hope you still insulted him

Damn, so my M.95 carbine shoots REAL fucking high and I think I'm already at the tallest front sight (not like I could even get my hand on a replacement), what the fuck do I do?

>>64388601
What’s cooler than a gun with a rollercoaster? Need langevizier gf

>>64388700
Aim low. It's what they did.
>>64388702
I prefer pic related, the curve and prominent notches are just cool to me

>>64388700
Affix bayo. See what that does

>>64388724
Its nice having both

>>64388733
No one said you can't

>>64386687
not enough mountains

>>64388693
Can't say I ever used it in a barrel but you could use DIY evaporust. It WILL remove bluing (bluing = stable rust) but as long as you cork up the muzzle, keep it from evaporating, and keep it from spilling (muzzle down) after filling it up from the chamber end, it should be fine. Wait ~24-48h, pour out, spray some soap in the barrel, use a bore brush on a cleaning rod to clean out the remaining gunk (it will be barely hanging on), run some hot water through it for a while, dry, oil? Again it will remove bluing so definitely be careful but it's not like it's instant. According to tests by Backyard Ballistics, it pretty much won't touch any metal that isn't rusty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVYZmeReKKY

I usually use it on parts that either aren't blued (ie. not usually guns) or things that have so much rust that the best thing to do is start from bare metal. Inside of a barrel isn't blued so it shouldn't be an issue. Not sure what it might do to chrome lined barrels.

>>64388767
Thank you. It is an extra barrel I bought specifically to bubba. It does have much nicer blueing than the matching numbers ones but is in overall much worse shape. I don’t care if I spill. Is evaporust basically just a weak acid? I have vinegar.

>>64388693
Redneck nuclear option:
Cleaning rod with brass brush with mother's polish on a drill

>>64388758
nice mountains bro, where is that?

Peehole masterrace

>>64388803
>>64388767
You think CLR would work?

I was given a non-matching garbage rod VZ24 that keyholes badly with every ammo I've tried and is barely worth any money. Should I try to salvage it at a gunsmith, leave it as a curio, or sell it for however little it's worth and get a nicer mauser?

>>64388988
The crossroads you are at is either
>sell
>buy a barrel wrench and another barrel in your preferred calendar
Sounds like the weapon itself is not worth further investment but if you want physical exercise, pulling a Mauser barrel off will give you just that.

>>64388988
The crossroads you are at is either
>sell
>buy a barrel wrench and another barrel in your preferred caliber
Sounds like the weapon itself is not worth further investment but if you want physical exercise, pulling a Mauser barrel off will give you just that.

>>64388988
sell for nicer or wall hanger. If it holds no sentimental value to you thats pretty much it. If you have any hangups of selling it knowing its next owner will experience the displeasure of owning it (assuming youre not upfront about it) you can part it out too.

>>64388893
Just get some basic gun bore cleaner and finish it with some hawk tuah and ballistol.

>>64354673
Based take and mega based P Series.

>same pictures thread after thread, year after year
This has just become a gay show and tell where everything already knows what's being shared. It just feels like years ago /msg/ was a lot more interesting and engaging. Sometimes I wonder if this isn't actually just r/milsurp

>>64390368
>/r
you have to go back

>>64390368
its more so that /msg/ has a lot of passerbys and about 10 or so core anons that wait for a post to catch their eye where they dump plenty of useful and borderline autistic understanding of the subject matter. they keep the thread bumped with the same pics. The occasional vibe check or thought provoking question keeps things going to

its a symptom of one of the slowest generals on the board. We basically wait around for a genuine new question or wide-eyed new fren to help. Until then, I will post the same pic

>>64388988
Trade for cheaper milsurp like latest imports of eastern bloc pistols or sell.

>>64390397
Tell that to half the board

>>64390431
>wait around for a genuine new question
How many Chinese C&R tokarevs can you fit inside your average Redditor bum?

>>64388758
Those are very nice. We have mountains here but not like that.

>>64387873
It came like that

>>64390431
All I'm saying is it used to be a lot better than this. I'm talking like 5 years ago, but lately it just seems more apparent it isn't as good anymore. I used to submit pics but again, people have seen my milsurp perched on a log.

>>64388786
IME vinegar sucks for rust removal and I've already managed to make rust worse with it lol. 3% vinegar to 97% water is what you get at the store and is more than likely what you have. Here's a shopping list that will get you ready for rust removal no matter where you are in the US because you more than likely have a Walmart within an hour drive:
>Citric acid, canning/glass jar aisle: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mrs-Wages-Citric-Acid-for-Home-Canning-12-oz-Jar-Dairy-Free-1-Count/1940987636 ~$5-6
>Washing Soda: https://www.walmart.com/ip/ARM-HAMMER-Super-Washing-Soda-Powder-Laundry-Detergent-Booster-Household-Cleaner-55-oz/19407690 ~$5-6
>Dawn Dish Soap: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dawn-Ultra-Liquid-Dish-Soap-Dishwashing-Liquid-Grease-Removal-Original-18oz/1095568875 ~$3
That easy. If you can't find washing soda you can use Baking Soda but you need more IIRC. I just prefer to use the washing soda instead, easier. The huge box also lasts forever; you can get it in a ~3-4lb box which is what I have. I think that was like $7-9 when I bought it last.

>>64388988
Make sure it isn't something stupid like the crown or ammo you bought first. Could be as simple as a crown polish to fix a barely noticeable section of damage on the crown or maybe it doesn't like the loading of ammo you have.

>>64388893
There is a pro shooter that uses it FWIW, lol. But I like the home-made Evaporust. Good to have around, easy to mix up, doesn't really expire if you have the materials sitting around for a long time, not to mention the soap you already have and the washing soda has other uses as well.

>>64381408
>implying it’s a competition
>not buying gold, silver, AND crypto

Got a Yugo Captured K98 today for $450 off of a boomer I was sat next too at a gun show
There are some good boomers out there guys
He even said he hated the dealers at Tusla and called them all snobs lmao

>>64388468
How do women make milsurp expensive?

>>64390734
That one’s easy. I’ll answer for him. They vote Democrat. Dems mandate BCs for private sales, install 3 day waits, enact sin tax etc. but those are specifically why my state has gotten so quickly shit for the milsurp hobby in particular
>>64388693
>I hope you still insulted him
Nope. Couldn’t do anything but congratulate him. GG.
I still fucking hate his mumbling, rambling boomer guts tho

>>64390495
Well the hobby used to be better 5-10 years ago. Don’t blame the general specifically when a 91/30 is $500 now. How the fuck is a /k/omrade supposed to grab SKS, go innnawoods when a plastic stock norinco is $500?

>>64390594
I did try polishing the crown but it looks like the bore is worn down even further than that, and I did try different brands and bullet weights and all, no luck.
Maybe a counterbore could do it, that was the gunsmithing I was considering.

>>64390582
>>64390604
Proportions?

>>64390785
Have you tried pulling a bullet and dropping it down the barrel, tip into the muzzle? If it gets down the barrel any appreciable distance your barrel is worn the fuck out, potentially was bored out oversized from the factory if it still has visible rifling left, and needs replacing. I had that exact issue with an M1917 Enfield, didn't fully realize just how bad it was till I got a .30-06 muzzle wear gauge and it went halfway down the barrel before stopping. I then proceeded to spend pretty much the price of the rifle rebarreling her.

>>64390803
In the video linked in the first reply. Here's the timestamp:
https://youtu.be/fVYZmeReKKY?t=185
But also here it is in text because I hated when I had to rewind like 12 times to write it down myself:
>1L Water
>100g Citric Acid
>40g Washing Soda (or 63g Baking Soda)
>Dawn Dish Soap (to taste)
Add the citric acid to the water. Stir until completely dissolved (warm water helps). SLOWLY add the washing soda into the solution and stir each time you add some until completely dissolved and the fizzing calms down. Adding all of it at once can make it overflow as it will fizz VIOLENTLY. Add a reasonable amount of Dawn. I wouldn't add any more than he does in his video. Personally if you want to make much more than what would fit in a large ball jar, I'd buy two citric acid "cans". The first will last a while but once you start going "hey I have these rusty tools I never felt like cleaning..." and you get a third of a 5 gallon bucket full of old junk then you realize just how much you're going to use. Also btw this is storable just like Evaporust. Buy a 5 gallon bucket and lid or a 6 pack of the gallon Ball jars and you're set, just don't let the jars sit in a garage out outside where it might freeze because, you know, expansion and glass. Probably even if stored in a bucket as well.

>>64390813
Never thought about doing that but I don't think I'm invested enough in this gun to try re-barreling it. Sounds like I'll be selling it unless I can only get pennies for it.

>>64390834
Thank you.
>The first will last a while but once you start going "hey I have these rusty tools I never felt like cleaning..."
Yes I love that feel

>>64390869
YW. Rust is sooooo much easier to deal with when you have that solution sitting just waiting to be used. It even goes from clear to yellow to yellow-green to green to dark green to black like real Evaporust as it gets used up but at a fraction of the price! Since learning about DIY Evaporust, my tools have never looked better and I've never been more willing to buy or save rusty tools than once I learned about that solution. When I say the rust wipes off, I really do mean it. If a wire brush or steel wool (I prefer #1 when cleaning) doesn't touch it in a couple swipes, back in it goes. But again, it WILL remove bluing so be careful about where you use it. The whole part goes from rusty to this weird zinc paste grey look. Should almost rinse right off with hot water and soap. A little steel wool helps too. I'll have to see if I can take a pic of something I've had sitting in the solution tomorrow; I know I have a long drillbit submerged halfway I keep flipping but I might have other stuff still in that bucket.

Another tip I keep tucked away is that rust can be converted back to bluing simply by boiling the rusty blued part in a pasta pot. Large parts can be steamed (attach a wide PVC pipe to the lid of a pot with holes drilled in it or make a "lid" with steam holes drilled in it using a piece of metal/plywood). Mark Novak has some videos on that. You have to degrease before (though the water really does it just fine IME), then boil/steam, then knock the rust off with ~#0000 or slightly coarser steel wool, then oil. I honestly prefer taking small parts out, cleaning the rust off, then chucking them in a jar of oil. Mark uses kerosene in a similar manner IIRC, then he oils them after removing from kerosene. Never tried that.

Another side note is know that it WILL remove paint as well. Citric acid is used as a paint stripper. Hand Tool Rescue seems to show that Evaporust isn't quite so aggressive on paint but I've never compared for myself.

>>64390973
Thanks more. The surface rust came off with oil and paper towel and now it looks better than the original from afar. But that bore rust is that good stuff I wouldn’t even try with a brass brush despite how orange it looks. Probably wouldn’t effect accuracy either way but I don’t buy firearms that are clapped out enough to experiment on. But I tend to get ahead of myself. I wanna be sure it’s worth doing what I intend ultimately to do to it.

>>64388810
Wyoming

>>64391170
>wyoming
Im thinking of visiting the Cody museum sometime next year. Aside from the museum what else is a fun thing to do out that way. We'd probably stop at Yellowstone along the way. Any based surp stores I should check out?

Migration time.

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