Thread 64360818

since gideons chariots 2 is stuck now they can regroup and reevaluate tactics before it resumes. what would you do differently if you were commanding it?
they seem to rely x10 times more on ground robotic bombing than before in GC1

nigga stop spammin

>what would you do differently if you were commanding it?
bomb and kill everything, yes even the women and children, make it all clean
also assassinate as many pro-palestine people as possible in the west
tldr: KILL EM ALL

>>64360839
i mean in more granular terms

>>64360818 (OP)
Do they just drive the M113 VBIEDs in manually and disembark before detonating them? Or is it an actual UGV?

>>64360818 (OP)
Hire some nearby arab tribe to do the fighting because even with tanks, jets and drones Jews cant fight for shit and the majority of deaths are from starvation(like in the holocaust).
Israel will never be a real country btw, and will be completely and utterly negrified

>>64360818 (OP)
>what would you do differently if you were commanding it
Be more explicit about intent on attacking civilians. There shouldn't be any doubt that butchering babies is the goal here for my soldiers

>>64360839
What's crazy to me is how palestinians don't seem to understand this is the only option that will remain for israel if they keep chimping out and refusing all attempts at compromise. Israel is easily capable of it and realistically, their neighbors (egypt in particular) would probably help them do it

>>64360852
UGV that drops a 2 ton bomb out of it's back and drives back to base

>>64360818 (OP)
I wouldn’t go in to begin with. I would’ve given them statehood decades ago and not funded armed factions in the strip to create chaos and justify intervention.

>>64361309
Since most of Israeli military action is bombing, there aren't a lot of Pali deaths from ground forces. It's most likely their commanders willingly ignore/refuse to report on their soldiers psychotic behavior, and pretend nothing happened. Most of the bombing decisions are done by the higher ups, so the pilots are doing what they're told in terms of bombing 'terrorist' infrastructure.

>>64361366
>I would’ve given them statehood decades ago and not funded armed factions in the strip to create chaos and justify intervention.
They could've done that in the 90s back when Hamas was a fringe pali faction with no political power (and their terrorist wing was in its infancy)

the IDF is the best modern army

>>64367135
Theyre successful cause theyre naturally good at deception

>>64367135
based
>>64367621
"All warfare is based on deception" - Sun Tzu

>>64360818 (OP)
Artillery-delivered nerve gas.

>>64367968
Operation Badr was quite deceptive

>>64369026
>plan super secret war with every advantage in manpower, materiel, and an ally attacking along a separate front
>cowardly Soviet military advisors evacuate from Cairo and Damascus, tipping off your enemy
>end up begging Soviets for help because your Third Army got encircled and the enemy is within 100km from your capital
wow, such deception, much sneak

>>64360818 (OP)
There's nothing the IDF can do to defeat Hamas. They aren't willing to suffer the casualties necessary nor are they even militaryily competent enough to pull off what the Iraqis did against ISIS in Mosul and destroy Hamas. IDF command realized this years ago but Bibi is dragging this unwinnable war on to stay in power and out of jail.

>>64369424
>>64367968
>>64367135
You do realize this shit doesn't work anymore, right? It may have been effective before Oct 7, but everyone can now see how totally correct the naysayers who said the IDF is an incompetent, corrupt, and undisciplined gang of thugs with a bunch of fancy toys that we pay for. Find another place to shill.

>>64369755
>you realize posting facts doesn't work anymore, r-right!?!
>Never mind that NATO flattened Mosul and Raqqa for the PMUs, t-they're based

>>64369837
>be lowlife scumbag
>suckerpunch some kid while my friend is fighting him
>get rekt
>memoryhole it
>decades later, the shame of losing makes some idiot seethe
many such cases

>>64360839
>differently
You will be killed by the Hannibal Directive.

>>64369837
Coalition forces conducted a handful of airstrikes on specific points in Mosul while the Iranian backed Iraqi militias and Iraqi military took the city with relatively little civilian casualties despite fighting literal ISIS. Israel has dropped 200,000 tons of bombs on Gaza, has inflicted horrendous civilian casualties despite having every single advantage known to military science, and the result is that Hamas is far from defeated. This is the great comparison between an actually competent fighting force and an overfunded, undisciplined gang of thugs.

Nice redditjak btw.

>>64370018
>The IDF isn't pathetic guys!!!!! Can't you see my epic victories from over half a century ago??????

>>64369424
You're really butt hurt aren't you? I was specifically referring to Badr, and nothing else.

>>64370181
Dude they literally had air supremacy over Tehran itself just this year.

>>64369837
I've never seen mass starvation and civilian casualties in the 6 figures for such a tiny and insignificant plot of land like the Gaza strip. The entire Iraq war cost 66K/30 million civilian casualties

>>64370713
Yeah Iran doesn't have an airforce that's why.

>>64369837
The highest civilian casualties estimate is 500K/30 million ~ 1.6% of total Iraqi population, compared to the conservative estimate of a much shorter war in Gaza (with no actual military to engage, just a militia) 70K/2 million ~ 3.5% of total Pali population. If the war lasts as long as Iraq, and international journalists get access to the strip and count the real number of dead, the number will probably rise to 8-10%

The shilling here is insane. They're calling the literal Shi'ite thugs that were imported from southern Iraq and pillaged the Sunni Mosul while sustaining up to 50% casualties (Golden Division) despite outnumbering ISIS more than 10:1 and having air support a "competent fighting force." This is Armchair Copelord-tier.

>>64370771
its not a shilling its a reasonable question
things changed a lot since GC1

>>64370836
Not you, P-P. I meant the third worldist /pol/tards. Not that I would mind you toning down your own shilling though.

>>64370171
>>64370731

Covering a map with arrows doesn't obfuscate the fact Mosul was pummeled in the same fashion as Gaza for over a year, and comparing only the raw percentage of population killed (twice the percentage killed in Gaza) omits the different conditions (e.g. Gaza having more than 10 times the population density of Mosul - let alone all of Iraq).

That being said, I'd love to see genuinely impartial, international journalists enter the strip; they'll have the integrity to differentiate Palestinian fighters from civilians in the casualty figures, and confirm all the Hamas infrastructure embedded into the urban centers. If by some miracle Hamas accepts the latest round of ceasefire offerings (and what appears to be their final ultimatum), it might be safe enough. Or maybe they'll just keep martyring their own civilians as ideological currency, who knows.

>>64371118
even my lowest estimate has this war going on for another year atleast. it's gonna take them 3-4 months to do gideon's chariots 2 fully (now that it's been scaled back/paused). and gideon's chariots 3 for the center (al balah area) will take another half year.

after every corner of the place is deemed secure they can go in with inspectors and 3d mapping tools and fully assess the terror infrastructure

>>64371239
>fully assess the terror infrastructure
Do you roll the Rs when you say terror?
Do you KHAMAS too?
Fuck I hate you people and your newspeak with a fervour. Do the one about terror tunnels and the peace festival next?

Send the Druze, mizrahim and other goys to die cleaning the building.

>>64371316
what do you mean?
you need to map that shit and either send demolition teams or cement trucks or something otherwise it's a hazard.

>>64371118
How many American leaders called for 'voluntary' migration of Iraqis, or called Iraqi land 'real estate bonanza'?
> all the Hamas infrastructure embedded into the urban centers
20 years on and still no evidence btw. I guess every terrorist organization in history never thought of that other than Hamas for some reason.

>>64371118
>times the population density of Mosul - let alone all of Iraq).
Mosul population density 10K/km2, Gaza is 15K/km2. American commanders weren't genocidal, and didn't at any point send over American civilians to live in Iraq

>>64371118
>check Israeli media
>screaming GENOCIDE GENOCIDE GENOCIDE
I don't remember this being the case in Iraq, despite the warmongering

>>64361317
They did keep chimping out and refusing all attempts at compromise. In the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, the aughts and the teens. This war is damn near 75 years old by now, that's why Israel is going for the strikes that end the war by exterminating the people involved and doesn't give a shit any longer about international consensus on the matter.

Like with all wars, eventually there has to be a winner and a loser, you can't always compromise. The rest of the world wants to keep the Middle East divided and hostile and pointed at Israel so there can never be a Fatwa or any other organized effort against the West, so they want these wars dragged out as long as possible and as inconclusively as possible. The motivations involved are actually fairly transparent.

>>64371442
what bonanza iraq is a third world dump
iraq is far away from this conflict and is in no way comparable in any way

>>64360857
Based
>>64367135
>wont even maintain a state for 100 years
How are your people so incompetent?

>>64369837
>RED LINE CROSSED OH GOD IM GOING TO NOOOOOOOOOOOOK
Israel made way more sense to me when I discovered a quarter of its people are russniggers.

>>64360818 (OP)
>rely x10 times more on ground robotic bombing

did you know, doorkickers 2 is a lot easier when you cheat in infinite AT4s

>>64370713
>Dude they literally had air supremacy over Tehran itself just this year.
A single picture of an IDF plane over an Iranian city please. They were just slinging glide bombs and standoff munitions from the border, that's not air supremacy. By that standard Russia has air supremacy over Ukraine.

>>64370171
Just remember kids, it would take a government and it's stooges ALLLLLL THAT(and air support) to defeat just 1000 committed mofos willing to win or die trying.

>>64369755
Iraq certainly pulled its weight in bringing ISIS to heel (atleast in their region) but why not mention the massive multinational task force that made it possible? Besides the US who would join a task force that would put troops into a situation that Israel created themselves? I care equally nothing for both sides but I am curious as to who would join a similar coalition.

>>64373168
the equivalent would be matador or m72 law

the robot strikes (thats how they call them on telegram) are 2 ton bombs

I think it's over. Hamas will return the hostages and the IDF is exhausted from two years of fighting and constant call-ups. People want to go back to their families and boring normie jobs.

>>64374153
the war is only starting

>>64361317
But its israel, and especially Netanyahu, sabotaging all attempts at peace. Even trying to bomb the negotiators.

>>64371118
>That being said, I'd love to see genuinely impartial, international journalists enter the strip;
That would be kind of hard, as Israel has already killed more journalists during this war than ALL WAR CORRESPONDENTS KILLED IN ALL WARS POST WW2 COMBINED.

>>64361317
Its Pissrael that is constantly breaking ceasefires and refusing peace talks unlike USA and Hamas

>>64374915
What causes the phenomenon of pro-palis believing the opposite of what happens in reality?

>>64362120
Arafat walked from the table and the second you mention that is the second the " peace advocates" get mad

>>64375015
Some of us just don't like seeing children being killed, especially when it's paid for with our tax dollars.
Anyway, what can they even do short of kill everyone there? I think if they had a goal, it's been accomplished by now. If there were any hostages left, the terror regime probably killed them like they kill their own soldiers that get captured.
One of the most evil wars of this generation committed by a rogue terrorist state that needs to be cut down to size and partitioned. My recommendation for America is to blow up all the high tech goodies we gave them with a heavy handed air campaign and let the Arabs finish them off. Bam peace in the middle east for at least 50 years.

>>64374901
You mean pro-jihadist tiktokkers who tried to act as meat shields? Good riddance

Ceasefire in effect. Hamas to release all hostages and remains of deceased. Israel to release prisoners and withdraw from most of Gaza.

Hamas attempted one last raid on an IDF base before ceasefire took effect and lost 3 fighters.

>>64375365
Also aide to be allowed into Gaza.

>>64374153
Now's the time for the Arab world to double down, unify and remove the terror state off the face of the earth. They'd be doing the US and the world a favor. Sigh.... A man can dream

>>64375539
I guess pattern recognition isn't your strong suit.

>>64375561
If the Arab world unified in their commitment to destroy Israel and the United States could knock off the unwavering support for the terror state maybe we'd see a different outcome. The US is their only saving grace and the only reason they exist.

>>64375365
2 weeks from now when gideon's chariots 2 resumes they can change up the tactics, hit hamas harder.

>>64375539
>>64375658
Can't wait to see Jews nuke you and erase your sorry excuse for a race off the earth

>>64375658
I guess we'll just add history and geopolitics to the list of things that aren't your strong suit

Have you considered knitting?

>>64375693
You want the jews to nuke rural Wisconsin? I'm just tired of being an accessory to a genocide. I'm far, FAR more concerned with a rouge state like Israel getting the best tech we have like F-35s and who knows what. Not just considering the amount of devastation and chaos they've caused to our detriment, but Donny is totally fine with pardoning whatever Israeli spy bibi tells him to (like johnathan pollard) who has sold military secrets to his country AND china. It doesn't concern you that Israel generals in the Pentagon tell our generals what the fuck to do, in our own country, and they have to do it? We need to bomb and disable the Israeli military. Not Iran. Not anyone else.

>>64375658
>Arab nations doubling down
The lines are already drawn. Arabs decided they'd rather work with Jews than Iranians and their proxies

>>64375706
>Rogue
>Israeli
>Wisconsin oblast
Sure

>>64375706
>rural Wisconsin?
Bullshit, or you're an intolerable fag. I'm from there, you would not have survived high school.

>>64375747
Yes Israel is a rouge terrorist state. What do you call an attempted assassination on negotiators in a neutral country? Happy fun time delivery? Nice complete dismissal of Israeli spying on us though. You ever consider the root cause of all the wars in the middle east are our unwavering support for Israel?

>>64375751
That's funny because I say this shit in the open to tuff gays like you and you don't do shit.

>>64375758
>What do you call an attempted assassination on negotiators in a neutral country?
Typical iran and hamas playbook, they wont be missed

>>64375706
>Obama dropped me in rural Wisconsin with my cousin wife
>Surrounded by Whites and living off welfare and numerous aid programs
>I'll never forgive the jews for this
I hate jews too, but I genuinely don't care for you either Achmed

>>64375762
Sure you do, habibi. You don't talk like you're from here. Nor do you seem to have the processing power to understand how retarded you sound.

>>64375782
608, fag, now please get the jew cock out of your mouth. The only correct course of action is a total and complete decoupling from Israel and destruction of any advanced military tech we've given them (yes GIVEN) over the course of the last couple decades.

>>64375184
>>64375539
>>64375658
M8 do you want a repeat of the Oct 7th attacks?
Do you understand cause and effect?

>>64376005
What do you think is going on in Gaza right now? It's worse than oct 7 every day. I'm willing to bet that the Israeli military has killed more civilians in Gaza in the last 2 years then Islamic terrorism has killed in the west AND Israel over the course of decades. And you wonder why they hate us.

>>64375931
>30 minutes to google an area code
Ok, jamsheed the tunnel queen

>>64376045
Yeah, because they committed a massacre against a country that completely overwhelms them. No fucking shit they're getting annihilated.
The only hope now after that stupid act is this ceasefire.

>>64376070
What is one third of 70,000? Because that's how many children have been killed since the attack on oct 7. Not maimed. Killed. 23000 children that did not have a say in their government and had absolutely nothing to do with Hamas. Even just the amount of children they've killed is more than the amount of westerners killed by Islamic jihad attacks in Europe and america over the past several decades. The response is completely disproportionate. Idk how you can (rightfully) condemn Russia for the same barbarity and cheer Israel on when they do it. It makes no sense.

Good god, lots of Michaels from Tabriz today on how Israel is losing again.

A goyim with 0 reading comprehension what a surprise

>>64376140
>70,000
>23000
These numbers are as real as your story

>>64376161
They are approximate but the current consensus is around 70,000 dead and about 20,000 dead children. Would you like me to post multiple sources you won't read?

>>64376140
I'm not cheering on Israel, their actions have been barbaric and it's an internationally recognised genocide. I'm lambasting the stupidity of them for supporting an attack on an overwhelmingly powerful nation that holds all the cards. If I were to fly to the Arctic and pick a fight with a polar bear while armed with a shiv, you'd call me a fucking retard.

>>64376204
If the polar bear eats a child and not you, do you blame the child?

>>64376206
After the kid pokes the bear with a stick? Yeah. I do blame the kid.
>>64376171
>read my prepared propaganda

>>64376206
I blame the dumbass parent that brought the kid with them.

>>64376206
Nta, but if I brought my child with me and had them nearby while I attacked the polar bear, I think I would be deservedly blamed.

>>64376214
Reuters, NPR, Al Jazeera (I know it doesn't count to you) all report around 65000-70000 killed. Also you lack reading comprehension. The kid did not poke the bear. Someone else did. He just has to pay the price.

>>64376249
Do the palis have no agency? Oct 7th was the kid that poked a bear and got mauled as a result. Are they just retarded children at the end of the day?

>>64375539
I'd rather they keep depleting each other for a few decades longer.

>>64376262
Are you a retarded child? Those are some crazy mental gymnastics to justify killing children and civilians for the actions of an organization that they may have had nothing to do with or even supported.
Even from a military standpoint it's pathetic. They've killed how many militants compared to civilians? A couple thousand militants to 70000 civilians? And what is the terror state's definition of a militant? Did he ask for too much food too loudly?

>>64376272
We're paying for it bud in more ways than one.

>>64376293
Shouldn't have organized an attack on the better armed neighbor I guess, sucks to suck.

>>64376140
>Japan only killed 3000 people at Pearl Harbor! The American response is completely disproportionate!
Also, for all the "muh genocide" talk, the fact that your numbers show children making up 33% percent of deaths while children made up 51% of Gaza's prewar population suggests that the IDF has not been killing people indiscriminately.

>>64376306
World war 2 and the attack on pearl harbor is a whole different can of beans my friend. 23000 dead children is not a mistake. If it is we need to immediately reconsider our """special relationship""" with Israel because that is grossly incompetent for a "professional" military with the best, most precise munitions in the world.

>>64376293
Brother even at the lowest point directly after the attacks, a solid 50+% supported the attacks. It's only after Israel made it's move did it drop.
https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/997

>>64376339
I find it hilarious that you people never ask yourselves "well gee whiz I wonder why Hamas exists in the first place??? What could possibly make them chimp out like they did on oct 7?" Like they just decided one day to commit national suicide for no reason at all. Poor little Israel dindu nuffin. And why was bibi funding Hamas in the first place? There are so many layers of subversion and espionage attached to Israel that any sane person or government would immediately disavow them.

>>64376338
>Also, for all the "muh genocide" talk, the fact that your numbers show children making up 33% percent of deaths while children made up 51% of Gaza's prewar population suggests that the IDF has not been killing people indiscriminately.
>achmed of wisconsin caliphate cant reed

>>64376367
>Retard on the internet actually believes Israel isn't killing Palestinians indiscriminately.

>>64376365
Ok, you're emotionally compromised. Can we get a different Palestinian supporter in this thread please?

>>64376386
I accept your concession.

>>64376378
They sure are bad at it for having them all in arty range and in the open. If they wanted to exterminate them, they could have been shelling camps this whole time. The fact camps exist at all is a demonstration of restraint.

No, palis are not entitled gibs; any gift of food is a mercy from the enemies they declare as existential.

>>64376410
>If they wanted to exterminate them, they could have been shelling camps this whole time. The fact camps exist at all is a demonstration of restraint.
This is also my argument for why the Holohoax never happened.

>>64376378
>Retard on the internet is mathematically illiterate

>>64376386
hey what can i do you for

>>64376365
They really do live up to the "crying out in pain as they strike you" stereotypes, huh?

>>64376410
They wanted to force them into Egypt but Egypt made it clear that any forced displacement would be an act of war so they pussied out.

>No, palis are not entitled gibs; any gift of food is a mercy from the enemies they declare as existential.
Cool Turdie logic you got there retard. By all civilized laws of war, the occupier has responsibility for the well being of the occupied, but Israel was never really civilized anyway so it makes sense.

>>64376410
occupiers are actually in fact, by international law, responsible for the people they are occupying
but zionists do not think international law applies to them and that actually seems to be the case because no one gives a shit

>>64376613
>>64376615
Samefag harder goat fucker

>>64376692
Cope and seethe turdie.

>>64376701
>blatant samefagging
>calling anyone a thirdie
Lets see hands and an outlet, maybe a gun with it

>>64376045
>It's worse than oct 7 every day
Not even on the worst day did as many Gazans (civilians and combatants) die as Israeli civilians were murdered on 7/10/23.

>>64376995
how many civilians died? iirc the number was revised and includes military and reservist victims of hamas's murderous attack.

>>64376589
>Ah durr my statistics say Israel isn't actually committing genocide and is the most moral army on earth because they could acktually be killing more children than they currently are according to math!
One simply had to open their eyes to see the depravity of the IDF and their little mossad agents on the internet

>>64377639
Between 1k and less than 2k. And no response for hours in a highly militarized country smaller than florida. Oh those poor jews. Anyway, we need to start air striking Israeli military assets immediately if we wanna live in a peaceful world.

>>64377639
According to wiki, about 1k civ, 1k troops more or less were killed on oct 7.

i hate redditors

>>64377896
>da electronic jeeeeewwws are in muh walls

>>64377906
It was a holiday. And could you stop larping as a mutt, please.

>>64377933
It's wild how short a time he waited after ducking posting guns/ hands and an outlet. Least american american ever.

>>64377933
Wow they fell for it again? Why are we allies with this militarily incompetent shithole again?

>>64377929
I was talking more about the 70k dead civilians desu

>>64377974
nice aimless seething

>>64377974
>we

>>64377961
Here's my desk guns and the closest knife I could find. Could you show me you mossad identification card now? Your goodest goy #1 badge would also be acceptable.

>>64376299
>We're paying for it
Total. Semite. Death. Give arms to both sides

>>64377896
>stop bringing numbers and facts into my emotionally driven arguement!!!

>>64377896
>No counterargument
I accept your concession. Just so you know, if half of all Gazans are children and I killed 70,000 Gazans at random, the likelihood that 23,000 or fewer of the people I shot would be children is 10^−1853.8. That's a standard deviation of nearly 130. It's almost zero. It's less than the ratio that one atom represents vs the total number of atoms in 900 pennies. Post drinkable tap water before posting again.

>hamas surrendered
>hezbollah surrendered
>bashart exiled
>iran cucked
>iraqi hezbollah cowers
>comic relief houthis too high on qat to aim a rocket
Israel is victorious on all fronts.

So this is an Israeli victory then? Hamas initiated the war by attacking Israel, and now it’s ending with Gaza devastated, Hezbollah neutralized as a threat, and Iran weakened and embarrassed?

>>64378245
>>64378156
>Acktually Israel could mathematically be killing more than the 20k children they already have, that makes us the good guys on the moral high ground!

>>64378282
Israeli initiated the war decades ago lmao. How do you expect people to live under total domination? Would you be sucking redcoat cock right now if you had the chance? Honestly if you're anti-palestine you're anti-american.

>>64361366
They don’t need to be “given” statehood. Israel left Gaza in 2005. They’ve been a de facto state under the rule of Hamas ever since.
Their state’s only goal has been the genocide of the Jews which results in the Jews blowing shit up trying to put a damper on their plans. All they needed to do to have peace was not attack Israel but they’ve never been able to control their murderous urges for more than a week.

>>64378291
Israel declared independence when the Brit’s left and was immediately recognized as a state. A lot of Muslims said they didn’t want to be part of a likely Jewish dominated state. The UN drew up a plan to partition the newly formed nation into two separate ones. The Israeli government accepted the partition plan. The Muslims, who would come to be called Palestinians, rejected it saying the whole thing should be there’s. Then the surrounding Muslim countries invaded Israel multiple times trying to destroy it, and were defeated. After they gave up, Palestinians started carrying out terrorism. Israel offered to recognize a Palestinian state in 2000 and 2008, but these offers were rejected.

I do think Israel should just create an unconditional Palestinian state because it would be easier to deal with a nation with a military and functional government when it commits acts of war, rather than having to deal with terrorists in territory with confusing ownership and governance. Israel would have an easier time with optics and narrative too when a country is actively attacking them.

>>64378291
difference is the redcoats got dunked on, you fags shouldnt have lost the war (that you started 7 against 1) if you wanted israel to not be a state
>if you're anti palestine you're anti-american
there's nothing as american as winning a war for independence

>>64378318
Israel funded Hamas to give them a pretext to invade Gaza.

>>64378334
5d chess moves from the longnoses if true, still doensnt change the fact that palestine lost

>>64378330
Like I said earlier in the thread, the only reason Israel exists is because of massive US support. And what have we gotten out of this relationshit? Endless wars fighting on Israel's behalf. The only reason they're around to perpetrate their crimes is because the US saved their asses on multiple occasions.

>>64378337
We also lost, genius. We're paying for this genocide. Nothing happening over there benefits us whatsoever. Air strike Israeli military assets NOW!

>>64376613
>>64376615
Being in the same theater does not make you an “occupier.” The IDF is not taking on any government functions. They are not ruling Gaza. They are not an occupying force taking the spoils of war, they are an army conducting purely military operations against Hamas. There is no law which says they have to come out of their bases and occupy the surrounding area. The Palestinians are not under an occupation, they are free to set their own laws and collect their own taxes. That this free population can’t feed itself is not Israel’s problem. Their incompetence and poor planning does not necessitate that Israel occupy them to save them from nature taking its course.
Israel is choosing not to occupy them, but they’re feeding them anyway. They are taking on costs which no law demands of them.

>>64378066
Is a Snickers bar acceptable?

>>64378373
Wow they're so moral and noble! Thank God the IDF was there to save them!

>>64378377
Mini Snickers fits with the Ruger charger I will accept it. Abdul from Wisconsin oblast is the only one to post guns tho. I find that strange.

>>64378334
The Palestinians cheering on Hamas shows that to be irrelevant.
That Israel didn’t want a unified Palestinian Authority wouldn’t have stopped one if the Palestinians wanted it. It didn’t take much to get them to reject it, and the Palestinians so want to commit genocide that the PA can’t even control the West Bank.
The Palestinians are responsible for their own government. Israel didn’t force one on them at gunpoint.

>>64378334
Let's say that's true, the majority of the population supported the attacks.

>>64378381
They should be thanking God. If they’d tried that with America there would be no Palestinians left.
We’re committing genocide against drug runners right now who are doing nothing more than sending Americans what they want so much that they’re willing to pay for it. Imagine what we’d do if they were launching deadly rockets instead of transporting tasty drugs.

>>64378414
Why is that my problem though?

>>64378427
>We’re committing genocide against drug runners right now
ok ling ling

>>64378427
>We’re committing genocide against drug runners
good

>>64378427
Post guns faggot. In fact all of you mossad informants, post your guns.

>>64378465
Imagine shilling for palis for so long you think literally everyone is mossad

>>64378334
I knew Hamas was finished once the "UM, ACTUALLY SWEATY, HAMAS IS REALLY RUN BY ISRAEL" talking point started getting disseminated. Desperate spin to cope with losing to The Jews. Again.

>>64378531
Yes. Israel defeated a bunch of unarmed children and women. Congratulations to the most moral army on earth. Now post guns Chaim from Miami oblast

>>64378372
the genocide of worthless loser browns is a win in and of itself

>>64378468
Imagine being so subverted by Israeli propaganda that you think anyone that's against genocide is Arab, Muslim or leftist.

>>64378573
So from which oblast do your originate from?

>>64378570
Browns who have done nothing to you and are trying to live their life in their own country far, far away from the US. I wonder where all those refugees will go after they finish destroy their homes?

>>64378576
Moscow Tehran Shabaz Oblast

>>64378579
good luck to them crossing an ocean, maybe if they didn't want their homes destroyed they shouldnt have started shit

>>64378328
>I do think Israel should just create an unconditional Palestinian state because it would be easier to deal with a nation with a military and functional government when it commits acts of war, rather than having to deal with terrorists in territory with confusing ownership and governance.
Part of the issue is the geography. The West Bank is the high ground and it's also important to the Israeli religious right for [reasons]. There are now more than 700,000 Jewish settlers in the territory (including East Jerusalem, which everybody in Israel agrees is Israeli). But the Israelis don't want Hamas or a similar organization in control there and able to launch rockets or mortar fire on Tel Aviv, which is much closer, or threaten the thin neck across Israel "proper."

What might happen is some kind of oddball situation where Palestinian cities turn into their own emirates but existing in a state of Israeli suzerainty. Not that Palestinians in the main will go for that. It sounds like something the UAE would cook up.

Just looked up the peace plan. Seems decent, though I won’t be at all surprised if people manage to fuck it up. I am surprised to see that it involves Hamas disarming and agreeing that they won’t be part of the new government of Gaza in any capacity.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70155nked7o

>>64378623
That actually looks good. Let's hope it goes through, this entire thing has been a fucking shitshow.

>>64378712
Let's see if bibi can stop himself from blowing up the negotiators this time before we start sucking each other's dick

>>64378623
Won't happen. They might proceed with that hostage exchange, even tough I doubt that, but lasting peace as described won't come. Because it's not profitable and desired outcome for either side of the conflict.

>>64367135
The Arabs won every single one of those wars
>Source: the Arabs

>>64370171
>conducted a handful of airstrikes on specific points in Mosul

>>64374901
A different sort of person might wonder how that could even be possible. Not you though.

>>64376005
>cause and effect
That's kafir talk, my friend.

>>64376045
If you massacre civilians, your own civilians might get massacred in retalation. That's why you shouldn't massacre civilians.

>>64378623
Yeah, it's a surrender dressed up as a "ceasefire" to make the total-war-minded Arabs less upset about losing, like the Lebanon "ceasefire".

>>64379074
How about if they massacre US servicemen? How many Israelis are going to massacre for the USS liberty? Can we take back the life boat they took as a trophy?

>>64379192
I think bibi got tired of bombing children (or ran out of ammo, I don't think he would ever get tired of that desu) and Zion Don, like a begging puppy desperate for attention, is happy to lick up whatever bibi leaves for him and present it as a "victory"
Don't forget that last 20 wars here were the last ones and peace would last forever and ever

>>64378334
LIHOP conspiracy theorists of all types are the dumbest niggers alive

>>64379204
It's been reported in Israeli media that he allowed funding to Hamas, it's a know, accepted fact, Chaim. now why would the leader of the most subversive espionage state in the world do something like that? Next you'll say he doesn't have multiple court cases ongoing in Israel for corruption.

>>64379210
You're showing why LIHOP conspiracy theorists are retarded.
Hamas was funded because it was assumed some money would make them calm down and stop attacking Israel, not to start a war. Just because you start a fire for warmth in a forest and end up burning the forest down doesn't mean your goal was to burn the forest down.

>>64379211
Yeah that's right I forgot. The Israeli government is full of good boys who dindu nuffin that have nothing but the best intentions for the Palestinians that have never done any underhanded or subversive shit like... EVER! They're not known for their false flags or anything like that. No sir. take bibi's word at face value and ignore everything that says otherwise, even his own countrymen.

>>64379211
>you know those guys that keep saying they want to genocide us
>those guys we keep pointing to as to why there can't be two state solution because they just want to genocide us
>let's give them money I'm sure nothing will go wrong

>>64377639
In 10 years it will be 5,000 and gradually keeps rising

>>64367968
>All warfare is based on deception
Then explain Napoleon, he loved direct frontal assaults

>>64379369
Especially in his early campaigns Napoopan managed to divide larger enemy armies with feint attacks. That way he could have a numerical superiority where it mattered.

>>64379072
Fucking hell

>>64379192

What was the Lebanon peace deal/ceasefire?

>>64376365
>Like they just decided one day to commit national suicide for no reason at all
This would imply that they are capable of cause-and-effect reasoning

I legit don't get why some people don't like Israel.

They give us really cool weapons and videos of the best army on earth.

The retreat of shame after failing to accomplish any strategic objectives or clear one city after two years despite having every conceivable advantage.

This has to be the most embarrassing military display o the 21st century.

>>64382054
we literally won

hamas has been crushed and is giving up the hostages