Thread 64361921

>>64361921 (OP)
>4 launchers all stacked together
Why?

>>64361944
>https://x.com/serhiyprytula/status/1975227338888470835
>Post by one of the biggest Ukrainian charity foundations
>retard thinks it's AI

>>64361937
That's where the mi-26 dropped a few tons of supply and the trucks to distribute it haven't arrived yet

>>64361982
An unfortunate result of the firehose of falsehood method, eventually people become so skeptical to everything nothing seems real anymore.

>>64361921 (OP)
What got hit?

>>64362008
Wtf is pedobear doing in Finlandia?

>>64362014
Radar and control unit of S-400

>>64361921 (OP)
Why such a small boom? what atacms with cluster warhead doing?

>>64362155
Likely a small drone hitting the radar.

>>64361921 (OP)
What the fuck why is the radar being humped by the TLERs like dumbass WoT and WT players getting their teammates killed by artillery?
>mfw those players were just future mobniks

>>64361937
even ziglets get lonely

What is the go-to target when attacking these systems? I assume the control unit and radar would be more important to take out than the launchers?

A small drone is enough to ruin the radar forever THOUGH

>>64362241
The radar and the control unit, without them the launchers are completely blind. Add to that the fact that they are the most expensive and hard to replace part of a SAM battery and you have yourself a go-to target.

>>64361921 (OP)
Decoyim

>>64362014
the fire control radar
you can see it is attempting to paint a target because it isn't rotating and isn't in the home position
maybe the missile is already inside the minimum range by the time they can get a lock

>>64361921 (OP)
Wonder what the two trailer (?) huts are for. Crew accommodations wouldn't make sense, why keep them on your vehicles instead of stashed in a treeline. Anyways, yeah pretty clearly a 92N6 and a new(er) 55K6E command post on a BAZ-69092-012 chassis (the older ones were on a different chassis). The middle BAZ might be crew transport?
Either way, the 92N6 was definitely the priority target there. You can have any number of TELs and command posts and they'd still be useless without an engagement radar.

>>64362241
In order of priority radar > command post > TEL. The command post is eh actually, if you can catch the crew inside it then it'd be a pretty valuable target but you can clearly see the crew running for their lives. Otherwise, the electronics aren't particularly hard to replace, the expensive processing is all done radar-side, the command post just collates the data from the radars and transmits to the launchers. The radar is harder to replace and a critical part of the system.

>>64361921 (OP)
You can see the crew running away. Looks they had warning something was coming.
>>64361937
>4
I only see 2

>>64362327
The radar is pointed basically right at the observer drone

>>64362340
Yea, looks like they were able to notice there was a drone in the area looking at them and decided it's best to gtfo.

>>64361921 (OP)
Wouldn't it make sense to send in planes to take out launchers after that hit? Do they have overlapping air defense radars ranges?

>>64362185
Can you imagine the hard-on you'd get after such a hit? How do you even return to normal life after riding that high for the past 6 hours? Everything must feel like an octave dimmer.

Why aren't they escorting them with SHORAD? Isn't that the whole Russian doctrine?

>>64362008
>Unfortunate
Anon that's literally the entire goal of it.

>>64362740
>SHORAD
Best we can do is some dudes with small arms, cumrag.

>>64362752
Yes, and their goal is unfortunate.

>>64362740
Isn't their SHORAD one of the favorite targets of Ukie drones, too?
Turns out, most AD absolutely sucks against the low-flying little shits.

>>64362719
>How do you even return to normal life after riding that high for the past 6 hours?
By knowing there's a bigger one in the not-to-distant future.

If I remember well there was a report ziggers only have 10 metters long cables for their systems, with the predictable results seen here.

"Bavovna" means "Love thy neighbor" in Ukrainian.

>>64361921 (OP)
air defense cuckolds sit erect watching drone-sama penetrate radar-chan

>>64362008
You just have to use the court style method for figuring out what's true. Figuring out who is credible and trusting their testimony, especially when it lines up with the testimony of other credible sources. Unfortunately a fair few western sources trashed their credibility hard over the last 20 years, which makes the west far more vulnerable to firehose of falsehood tactics than it used to be.

>>64362917
I had this whole thing I thought up of as a plausible explanation for why they're doing this, It was about how they didn't want the omnidirectional antennas to give away the position of the command post and radar and whatnot. Then I remembered they were doing this all the way back in 2022, so the explanation I came up with goes out the window (along with, I presume, the air defense commander in charge of this battery).

>>64362971
As if those propaganda outlets had any credibility to begin with

>>64362719
>How do you even return to normal life after riding that high for the past 6 hours?
fuck the shit out of your cute Ukrainian battle buddy and go back to killing more ziggers

>>64362971
>You just have to use the court style method for figuring out what's true
no
you need the academic inquiry method - referenced sources, mathematics, raw data, predicted vs actual results, underlying theory, historical findings

>>64364729
>fuck the shit out of your cute Ukrainian battle buddy and go back to killing more ziggers
Shit is so cringe, and the chick is minging. Touch grass dude.

>>64364743
>the chick is minging
chacun a son gout
and I'd still dive into minge that has actual zigger KIAs anytime

>>64364749
>doubling down on the cringe

Why are they all so bunched up together? I mean there must be a reason other than not having long enough cables or laziness and incompetence.

>>64361937
That's how they set them up in the propaganda photoshoots, so that's how mobiks think they're supposed to be set up.

>>64364904
The Russians have had them clumped up since the start of the war, even when emplaced, the revetments are barely separated from each other. The only way it makes sense from a tactical perspective is if they're genuinely concerned over the Ukrainians homing in on their omnidirectional command antenna, but they've been doing this since day 1. Unironically the reason is probably cable length and an unreliable datalink at best, laziness/incompetence at worst.

Was the deployment of long-range SAMs on the front lines intended to put pressure on flying objects in Ukrainian airspace?

>>64361937
A supply sergeant sold all most of the unit's coax cable for vodka money in 1994.

>>64361937
It's Russia, so suggesting better dispersal probably makes you into a prison bitch or something.

>>64362241
The radar is the most expensive part by far.

>>64361937
they have a hard limit to how far the vehicles can be from each other as they need cabling. And thats very short, like 100 m max. Thats why a single HIMARS cluster can destroy command vehicle, radar, power generators and 3 launcers.

>>64365601
Yes, pressure on the fuses of those flying objects

>>64362719
By remembering the holy mission of TZD is still ongoing, and will only go further from that point on.

>>64362315
>if you can catch the crew inside it then it'd be a pretty valuable target
Air defense fucks are a diamond dozen

>>64365913
air defense operators are not easy to train. the US is pretty selective, not as selective as nukes or cryptographers but its pretty high.

>>64367894
the evidence of them being a dime a dozen in russia is how badly their air defense does. ukes are using a lot of the same equipment in most places to greater success. russia's training regimens and military culture lost equipment it should have never lost, and they don't have time to even fix or acknowledge the issue even if they wanted to.

>be me
>baba yaga
>just ran out of ammo
>eh whatevs, 'twas a fun day
>still warm outside, mom, not coming home yet
>i-is that a buk?
>gamermoment.png
>actually land right in between the SAMs
>chill&hitch a ride to zegro hub
>they finally spot me
>all gather round like lemmings and film, one tries a grab, one a poke
>(they don't know i called in my boys)
>mfw they eventually find out

>>64368367
lol

>>64368367
>the guy hitting it with a stick
You can't make this shit up.

>>64367894
>air defense operators are not easy to train
How much training does it take to not fire the Pantsir(?) at buildings?

>>64368515
Reminds me of the Mobik poking a drone with a stick as the status is set to “armed” and it cuts to an aerial view of an explosion lmao.

>>64368367
>>64368635

>>64364743
>>64364768
Here's something more to your liking, Zir.

>>64368367
unknown technology must be bonked

>>64368367
why do the ziggers all have phones?

>>64368367
why? what the fuck is wrong with these primitive retards?

>>64368367
fuck who has the cat one?

>>64361921 (OP)
>on the back of U.S. Army Ordnance Specialist shirt:
> "If you see me running, try to keep up."

vs.

>on the back of vatnigger t-shirt:
> "If you see me running, we're already dead."

>>64369080
I don't think anyone at this point is surprised that a domestic pig is smarter than a feral zigger

>>64362294
>Wonder what the two trailer (?) huts are for. Crew accommodations wouldn't make sense
You expect pidors to assfuck each other in an open field? Everyone wants to enjoy a little privacy, even during trying times on a battlefield.

>>64368367
Get out of here stalker.

>>64369080
not the one i was thinking of but found one

>>64368892
>these are the "people" calling you a "NAFO tranny"

>>64369080
Which one? I have one with a cat almost getting droned, one where a russian kicks a cat and he gets droned, and the one where the russian soldiers are hammering away at a warhead and the cat leaves just in time to avoid the ensuing explosion.

>>64369562
You have no idea anon

>pp cage
isn't just a one off

>>64368921
Armies with poor discipline have poor discipline.

>>64369677
man there's one of a cat literally rubbing up on and rolling around in front of a FPV while it's landed, gave me a fucking heart attack watching it

>>64369815
Ah. I don't have that one. Sounds like a nail-biter to watch.

>>64368367
I know your average Russian soldier is incompetent, but even then it is amazing that not a single person in that gaggle of morons had the thought that it was likely that the landed drone was actively giving away their position, and they were probably only minutes at most from being struck by artillery once they halted, because there is zero other fucking reason why someone would land a drone on an enemy vehicle like that..

>>64368367
is this even more retarded than the doorbell trap?

>>64368367
topkek

>>64364743
You're just bitter that they get to live the fantasy. And the nightmare. You're a bored little no-account snu.

>>64370379
na, there is the, while stupidly small, possibility you could 'think' this was one of your drones, the doorbell thing was just outright fucking idiocy

>>64361937
Shorter distance to walk for polishing Ivan's cross in the night

>>64369544
new air defense just dropped
>range
about 8 inches

>>64368921
Stole them from Ukrainian households, obviously

>>64370379
>doorbell trap
Let's face the facts here - everyone would've pushed it just to see what the fuc would happen.

>>64368367
>see drone next to AA missiles
>poke it with a stick

>>64370539
the doorbell is so incongruous and apparently innocent that you can't help but touch it. for example there are random bits of statues around the world that are worn from being stroked, simply because they're there. Doorbell Pusher simply answered l'appel du vide, or as the kids say now, the intrusive thoughts

on the other hand, poking a random strange drone with a stick involves at least 1 or 2 major misjudgements. a drone is very obviously a likely potential threat, it certainly might be Russian or Ukrainian. and poking it with a stick implies that the vatnik knows it might be dangerous enough not to touch with fingers, but somehow figured that a relatively short stick would somehow be safe. it implies a judgement has been made that whatever danger it might pose to fingers, SOMEHOW a stick provides sufficient range out of that radius.
personally I find that more retarded than the doorbell.

>>64371913
I feel quite sure I wouldn't, if my brain was fully functioning; but I'm equally certain that on a bad day I would, I know I do stupid shit when I'm tired

>>64368367
This fucking war, man

>>64368367
I love how they're huddled around it like a crashed alien spacecraft.

>>64372002
>shits and giggles described in grown up words

>>64368367
>The joke writes itself

>>64372852
Kek, saved.

>>64368367
Fucking lol
Anyway why wasting a baba yaga? Those drones are actually expensive.

>>64372943
Because funni

>>64372943
Somebody decided knowing the whereabouts of a BUK or two was worth losing a drone

>>64368892
>Was in Bucha
These fuckers even brag about their war crimes.
Someone find this dude's car and give him the Darya Dugina special.

>>64372943
>wasting
A Baba Yaga for a Buk is a good trade, so why wouldn't they take the opportunity?

>>64372852
Russian AA and its war against window mounted airconditioners is unrelenting

>>64369080
Actually kind of fucking crazy after a moments thought that I don't even know which cat one of this war you're referring to.

>>64374076
Poor kittie didn't deserve getting dragged into this. :(

>>64374076
There is only one cat for me.

>>64368367
Either that is not a baba yaga or this webm is the result of the newfangled AI that now makes near-perfect fakes.

There's not enough space for a baba yaga between two central missiles of a Buk

>>64372943
>expensive
Compared to a $800-1,500 single use FPV? Yeah. Overall? Nah.

>>64368635
>>64368802
>>64368923

>>64368367
>>64372943
>>64374168
It's not a baba yaga. It's a recon drone obviously. That's why it didn't explode and why the ziggers are only running away after a while: a bomber drone is approaching.

>>64375063

vatnik janny always got mad when someone posted this one

>>64361921 (OP)
They never ask how air defense doing.

>>64374168
>>64375439
Original source (Lasar's Group) mentioned
>hit on a transport-loading vehicle for the Buk air defense system

No reference to Vampire bomber drones specifically but it would check out by HUD similarity with other previous known Baba Yaga strikes, for example picrel on Crimea from July.

So Russia is straight up losing the war at this point, right?

>>64377653
hard to say, they have certainly not achieved their strategic goals and will not achieve them, those being the disassembly of Ukraine as a nation, and the incorporation of its land and people into russia, or at least the installation of a government sympathetic to them, but i would say the most likely end to this conflict will be some form of peace deal that swaps some land for an end to hostilities
that is unless Ukraine or russia can somehow build a reserve force that can exploit a breakthrough sufficiently to actually reshape the battlefield, but that seems nigh impossible for russia who is busy mulching their reserves in the bunny ears, and very difficult for Ukraine who is much smaller and poorer
it looks like russia is just aiming to freeze the conflict, Ukraine will not aim for this, but whether or not they can achieve a victory is still up in the air
tl;dr: both sides are losing, but the upshot is that russia is no longer a threatening military entity

>>64368585
Wanna bet the radar still locks onto AC fans?

All the ACs bolted onto the commieblocks are like permanent chaff clouds because their radars are 1982 tier.

>>64377653
They've just pulled a record missile, drone and bomb chimpout on Ukraine. A tons of ballistic and cruise missiles, hundreds of drones, dozens of glide bombs.

>>64368367
fucking kek

>>64377653
Yeah pretty much

>>64377653
They are not winning, and they keep losing men about as fast as they can recruit them.
Their Soviet stockpiles of vehicles are gone, same for artillery.
But in the end, logistics and economy will decide the matter. And they've started to circle the drain in that regard.

>>64378374
Which hasn't worked the last five or six times.

>>64378374
So Russia is winning the war in two weeks, right?

>>64378575
More like "they are ass blasted for some reason"

>>64375530
Actually ya, I'm starting to notice hardcore zig shit is getting pruned a lot while pro-ukraine stuff seems to be getting it far less. Did we get a swap in janny mindsets with the new ones or something?

>>64379141
it's because they post scams and spam. if they'd stuck to normal stuff they would be allowed, but they can't do that because there are few positive things to post about

>>64378092
Russia has no way of freezing the conflict. The front lines perhaps, but they can’t stop Ukies from bombing their critical infrastructure.
In the end most wars are won and lost by economics, this one is almost certain to be the same.
And let me remind you that the west still has 200-300 billion $ they can give to Ukraine before they have to start making hard decisions.
Unless China puts its economic weight behind Russia, there is only 1 way this war can end TZD

>>64379225
pooh bear made his stance clear recently I think. Puccia is no longer getting machine tools from them.