Thread 64363904

40 was never good though.

>>64363904 (OP)
Did .40 put down more dindus than any other round? Its been THE american police handgun caliber of choice for nearly 30 years, up to a few years ago when the FBI switched back to 9 and everyone followed suit

>>64363904 (OP)
Hop (>>64363976) and Boondock all in the same thread?
What a day.

buy an ad roastie

>>64363976
Well no, it stacked dindus when they were sold off as copsurp and ironically were picked up in droves by the very same nogs they were made to control. In yet an even greater twist of irony those old police 40s killed way more blacks in black hands than they ever did in cop use

>>64363904 (OP)
>40 short and weak

less capacity than 9mm, less power than .45
it's the worst of both worlds, and a prime example of why MODERN government calibers suck cock.

>>64364186
If I read that retarded line one more goddamned time I'm going to give you a high velocity gender reassignment surgery

>>64364286
>Retarded line
Is it wrong?
Stop spamming "muh forty is the best" threads and you'll stop seeing it.

>>64364352
Yes, 40 beats the shit out of 45 in all metrics except expansion and kicks the shit out of 9 in every way that actually matters. 40 is second only to 10mm (wow, insightful analysis I know) and is the most powerful round you can get in nearly whatever mainstream pistol design you want, unlike 10mm where you have your choice of
>glock
>1911
>Italian CZ clone
>converted 40 pistols
To shit on 40 shows how little you know and how much you let others dictate for you what's acceptable or not. And to continue to parrot the "it's a midpoint between 9 and 45" boomerism is so abyssaly retarded I feel bad for your mother

>>64364186
>40 strong and wonderful

more power than 9mm, more capacity than .45
it's the best of both worlds, and a prime example of why MODERN shitposters suck cock.

>>64364379
>muh ballistic gel
>muh spreadsheets

bitch nigga .40cal is trash, more recoil than 9mm, less capacity, and marginally better wounding performance on paper only

9mm has been slotting faggots for over a century and it's not stopping any time soon. with +P 9mm rounds it completely negates any reason for .40 to exist.

This chick gives me the weirdest boner.

>>64364186
>less capacity than 9mm, less power than .45
More power than 9mm, more capacity than .45.
Also in the event that you actually have to use your CCW, the chances that you'll empty your gun and reload is extremely small, and the chance that the 4 extra rounds in a 1-reload setup will make the difference is near-zero. The only reason not to use .45 honestly is just that 40 and 9mm grips are smaller and the guns are lighter.

>>64363913
40 was always good, just never buy a Glock which isn't a Gen5 in 40. HKs and Sigs are good in .40, and Glock finally made a good .40 with the Gen5s. In fact, the best 9mm Glock is a Gen5 23 with a 9mm conversion barrel.

357sig is also excellent and owning a conversion barrel for whatever 40 you've got is a good idea.

>>64364417
Amazing how everyone and everything that matters in this world disagree with what you've said. But no, the entire world is wrong and you are correct.

Maybe if you post on a hungarian pastamaking forum about it for the next decade the world will finally understand and abandon 9mm and .45 once and for all.

OR maybe you could huff some more spray paint and tell us all how great .357Sig is.

>>64364414
>Chick
>He doesn't know

>>64364443
>mindbroken zoomie thinks every chick has a dick

good lord

>>64364443
>>64364457
Anyone associated with hop and assfacts is suspect af.

>>64364536
leave Hop's bussy outta this, he's what we call "free use"

>>64364417
Why are the gen 5 Glocks the only good ones in .40?
I do notice my G22 is snappy and not as comfortable as my G17

Just shoot actual 10mm instead.

>>64364406
This.
>>only niggers like 40
>> guess what that makes you
Please continue to shoot 40

>>64363904 (OP)
That's 14 minutes of "I'm too much of a bitch to handle 357 magnum", just carry a 9mm at that point

>>64364737
everyone knows the .40SW was developed specifically for limp-wristed government pussies who couldn't handle the recoil of a .45ACP full frame pistol.

What would happen if you shot a 9mm bullet with a .40 S&W bullet? Which would win in mid-air?

>>64364680
>heavier slides (.40 only)
>longer spring travel (all gen 5s)
That's just concerning recoil, there are a bunch of changes in the gen 5 which just make it better than any previous glocks. But in addition to all that the 40, for the first time, wasn't just a 9mm with a bigger hole punched in front of the slide.

There's just something really funny about the term .40 "Short and Weak".

>>64363904 (OP)
I thought she was cute at first but the more I see of her the less cute she looks to me.

There was never anything strictly wrong with .40 S&W, it works, but a popular opinion has been that its balance of qualities were never that great of a proposition. It's an opinion I've largely agreed with.

It fits right between 9mm Luger and .45 Auto, and this was a gap which wasn't in a dire need of being filled. A bit more powerful than 9mm, but with lower capacity and appreciably more recoil, but also not as powerful as .45 anyway.
10mm Auto always made more sense to me because you were looking at something that'd typically be more powerful than both (or at least AS powerful as .45), but slimmer so that you could stack more rounds than .45, thus making the tradeoffs more worthwhile and appealing.

>>64364414
She's small and cute, yeah, but her content still isn't very interesting to me.

I assume that .40 S&W is an appealing fit for her because it's a more powerful cartridge which she feels she can handle, given her light body weight.
I understand it too, you just gotta roll with the body that you have (or can build, if you're a man), but the world has largely gotten over .40, so she's not preaching to a very big choir.

Maybe if Asian countries started allowing for more private gun ownership, .40 S&W could get a second wind in the eastern world, it might be a similarly appealing proposition to the smaller statured people over there, but I imagine they wouldn't be disappointed with 9mm Luger either.

>>64364737
How much do you think she weighs? The recoil of 10mm Auto and .357 Magnum probably just IS too much for her for practical use.
Unless you mean OP, in which case he should Git Gud.

.40 and .45 ACP are the two best handgun rounds available

>>64365440
>tattoos
WHORE!

>>64365455
9mm and 10mm are the two best handgun rounds available.

>FBI gets BTFO and wants a more powerful handgun round
>10mm AUTO is created
>women and deskjockeys who don't shoot don't pass their qualification, clearly this is the fault of this newfangled 10mm AUTO and has nothing to do with the fact we don't train
>instead of going back to 9mm, they contract S&W to "fix" 10mm
>"we cut down the brass so you can only get slightly worse 9mm performance, but with less capacity in a proprietary cartridge. That'll be 6 gorillion dollars + tip T: S&W"
.40 is the biggest, most worthless piece of shit round with literally 0 justification.

>>64365629
Don't forget the stupidity of only bringing handguns to apprehend expert riflemen killers with a deathwish. Could have brought MP5s and M16s, also body armor, buuut they didn't figure it was necessary.

>hmm, should we prepare for these suspects we know for a fact are VERY dangerous?
>naaaaah
>oh no, how could this happen? 9mm, this is your fault!

>>64364742
And it was still too strong, so they switched to 9mm. Everyone who uses 9mm is a pussy.

>>64365629
>you can only get slightly worse 9mm performance
It has better performance. Not significantly so in the modern era, but the difference was more pronounced when first introduced. Not that you were alive back then.

>>64365629
weren't the smiff 1076s cracking their slides?

>>64363913
It's 10-20% more powerful and bigger than 9mm. Worth it for losing 2 rounds? You decide. I know what I want if a bear comes around. The recoil isn't noticeably different except in compact guns.

>>64365784
Also

>>64365784
Why .40 though when you can get the same capacity with 10mm and more power

>>64365813
10s an expensive meme that beats the shit out of the gun unless it's a glock

>>64365747
According to who, the S&W marketing department? .40 s&w is literally 9mm, except less mag capacity.

>>64365754
>>64365822
It's not 10mm's fault the industry makes shit guns out of pig iron that can't handle the POWAHH OF THE CENTIMETER. On a serious note, they could just have done exactly what they fucking did, which was to downsize the gunpowder charge, except then they couldn't have hawked their totally original cartridge dunotsteal + new guns to retarded government stooges.

>>64365866
Underwood 115gr .40 - 1400 fps
Underwood 115gr 9mm +P+ - 1300 fps

>>64363904 (OP)
>10mm short
hard pass

>>64365914
t. carries at 380

>>64365921
>t.roastie who can't handle 10mm

>>64365922
Fucking newfags I can't even

>>64365929
>OMG BECKY HE CALLED ME OUT THESE NEWFAGS OML
hi stacy, post tits or gtfo

>>64365939
I carry a USPc in 40 you dummy.
What do you carry? I'm guessing not a 10

>>64365954
no you dont

>>64365954
I carry a Glock 20 Stacy, kys
>>64365961
Kys frognigger

Fuck .40, it's only used by retards now. Although I'll say it's a great way to train for shooting better rounds, like Piccolo wearing weighted clothing.
.40 is excessively snappy for no benefit.
>want terminal performance?
.45acp which shoots softer meaning faster/better follow up.
>want ease of use/capacity
9mm
.40 was designed as a bullshit compromise when agencies wanted magnum performance but their shooters could not handle the round. .40sw is autoloader .38spl and it's a bad choice for individual shooters and agencies en masse.

.40 is shit, there's a reason it's being left behind and .45 acp is still getting new production guns. Even if a manufacturer wants to make a .40 gun they'd rather make a 10mm for the retards who can't stop asking for it.
If you carry a .40 I think you're stupid.
If you carry a 9mm I think you value ease of use, split times, and cheap ammo for training.
If you carry a .45acp I think you value terminal performance above all.

>>64365972
40 has more capacity than 9mm, more power than 10mm, and isn't a fat retard boomer round like 45, cope retard

>>64365981
Ok well .45acp takes the soul straight to hell! It was actually designed to cause those fatally shot to be gay in their lsst moments. As they lay bleeding and their soul departs the flesh their last thoughts focus on man ass and sucking dick. When they reach the sfterlife the fresh thoughts of homosexuality ensure they are sent straight to hell.
Can your .40 do that?

something is strange about this girl, either she's being pimped out to make gun content or just super awkward

she is tiny and looks like a child with tattoos. borderline little person/midget sized

>>64366040
First time seeing a woman that isn't obese?

>>64365822
Vastly exaggerated. You can run 200gr, 1200fps loads in even a Colt Delta Elite and it's basically fine.

I like .40. What's not to like?

>>64366040
Small and slender ladies are a thing. Pic related is "Eveestarr18," who's like 19 or 20 in this pic, you can find videos of her being plowed if you wanted to, and I've known of a number of other tiny and flat women (as in personally).

>>64366185
>septum piercing
discarded. probably has tattoos, too. we lost a good one, bros

>>64365790
L-lewwwwwd!

>>64365991
>Can your .40 do that?
Actually....

>>64366178
Well you do have the best gun in said caliber

>>64365866
The centimeter IS the 40 s&w retard. Leddit doesn't even know their basic history.
>>64363904 (OP)
The biggest problem is people, to this day, consider it as an in between step from 9mm to 45 when in reality it shots on 45 and almost has the capacity of 9.

It's a good round.

It's funny that people criticize the round for being too snappy when it was literally designed so women and dei hires could shoot it.

None of y'all are even gun enthusiasts you just sperg about the current thing as evidenced by this thread lacking ANY critical thought.

>>64366210
Yep. It was literally designed for .40.

>>64363913
Glock and their shitty guns basically killed 40. The idea behind 40 was a solid one (near 9mm capacity and velocity with near 45 ACP projectile weight and diameter), but Glock screwed the pooch. The main reason the FBI wanted to drop 40 aside from the cost of 9mm ammo being lower is because 40 is a high-pressure cartridge that wore out their Glocks quickly, whereas any gun chambered in 9mm will basically last forever. There was also a recurring problem where some factory new Glocks chambered in 40 wouldn't work with WML most likely due to tolerance stacking issues. They would buy big batches of Glocks, and find that a huge chunk of them would become jamomatics with their duty flashlights attached. Then of course there's the unofficial politically incorrect reason that female agents tend to be "recoil sensitive." There's nothing wrong with 40 itself, but once the FBI abandoned it, most law enforcement agencies followed the monkey see, monkey do principle and began retiring it as well. This gave the gun industry the green light to take an axe to a ton of their existing SKUs so they can try to force "modern" plastic microcompact 9mm strikerslop onto everyone (flimsy inferior higher profit margin products being sold as an "upgrade"). I'm not even going to get into the whole discussion about how 9mm being a smaller bullet is considered more politically correct for law enforcement use (watch almost any OIS bodycam video and you'll see the reality of how "modern duty-grade" 9mm performs).
>>64365629
As much as I love shitting on women, this is not exactly what happened. The original 10mm Norma load was a 200gr projectile at 1260 fps, and the FBI tended to shoot thousands of rounds over their training sessions. The revised "10mm Lite" FBI load was a 180gr projectile handloaded to 950 fps to mimic 45 ACP. The FBI had wanted to adopt 45 ACP after Miami-Dade, but it was not considered politically correct to do so after the Army had adopted the 9mm Beretta M9.

>>64366187
Yeah, she would be way cuter without.

>>64365747
>Not significantly so in the modern era, but the difference was more pronounced when first introduced
I've always found that thought to be really dumb the more I think about it. Somehow 9mm has these magical bullets that close the gap between all larger caliber projectiles to such a degree as ro render them obsolete. Also somehow no R&D was done with any other handgun round, as if all bullet development froze in the 80s except for 9mm. I'd argue, if anything, the gap has widened between 9 and 40 in terms of how big they can expand and how deep they can penetrate

>>64366298
9mm is the XM7 of pistol rounds.
>don't think about it, just use it

>>64366298
It's just 9fags misrepresenting the FBI study. What actually happened is that the newer 9mm duty loads meant for 4" barrels like Speer Gold Dot G2, Hornady Critical Duty, Winchester Ranger Bonded, and Federal HST were finally able to pass the FBI's minimum standard of penetration through various barriers such as thick clothing, sheet metal, automobile windshield glass, etc. into organic ballistics gel. Since these particular 9mm loads were able to meet the minimum requirement from their duty-sized guns, the FBI retired 40 S&W primarily as a way to save money. The FBI in no way claimed that 9mm is now "equal" in performance to 40 S&W and 45 ACP, just that it now finally consistently meets the minimum testing requirements in those particular factory loads. The FBI now considers 40 and 45 to be overkill for law enforcement use. Keep in mind that the goal of law enforcement is to apprehend suspects using the bare minimum of force.

>>64366289
wtf why can't women just be cute and not ruin themselves

>>64366369
>Keep in mind that the goal of law enforcement is to apprehend suspects using the bare minimum of force.
This is good to keep in mind even if you don't have to. Minimally wounding someone vs. blowing half their torso off when you didn't necessarily need to looks a lot different to the responding officers. Not that .40 S&W does that, but obliterating someone vs. giving them an ouchie can easily legally complicate your life for years.

>>64366373
It's our culture encouraging the escalation of things in order to get more attention.
That and simp culture gassing women up so much that they dont see the need to do better.
God I wish I could find a girl like >>64366289, even though she's usuay not the type I typically like, I still think they're cute as hell

>>64366369
>The FBI in no way claimed that 9mm is now "equal" in performance to 40 S&W and 45 ACP, just that it now finally consistently meets the minimum testing requirements in those particular factory loads.


The cheapest way to meet the standard, sure. Also, lower recoil of 9mm makes it easier for some to qualify with.

.40 has a marginally larger wound track, but is it really enough difference to make a difference?

>>64366589
>.40 has a marginally larger wound track, but is it really enough difference to make a difference?
If it also penetrates deeper then possibly. It's impossible to quantify how it would perform in the real world due to all the variables at play, but what we know is that with 40 you can get a heavier projectile with a wider diameter. 40 is objectively better than 9mm when it comes to terminal performance whether (You) personally think it makes a difference or not. Keep in mind that most people conceal carrying 9mm now are not using the same 4" barrel length the FBI used for their test.

>>64363904 (OP)
>>64366104

>>64365440
Bitch is all head, literally too big for her body
She looks like a deformed freak
I know guys on 4chan have no standards and many don't have anything going on that would allow for them to have standards, but you should still feel ashamed for liking abominations

>>64366373
Money, marketing(psyops), social media(psyops)

>>64364443
This isn’t tacticool bf she seems real. Neat video actually, I respect her making actual content and just thirst trap goon bait.
>>64364550
How many miles of meat has hop taken?
>>64364703
This is the real trvth

>>64363904 (OP)
seeing her fire two rounds caused me to close the video. why are you listening to people who can't shoot?

>>64366373
Something something patriarchy

>>64365968
Not everyone wants to carry a massive handgun lil bro. I still really want a 10mm 1911 though at some point, but I can’t afford one right now nor would I ever carry it.
>>64366040
>>64366649
She’s mid, no need to gas her up but she’s not like ugly to look at her anything either

>>64366703
>Not everyone wants to carry a massive handgun
Oh great, your a DYEL too? Might as well kys

>>64366649
Anon, I'm not one to gas up women but she stands out just for not being fucking fat in America.
In europe where most people are not fat, I would agree

>>64363904 (OP)
Great, we've come full circle back to 40 contrarianism.

Ita all so tiresome.

Shot .40 from a baby eagle once. Was the definition of snappy. Not enjoyable, but not horrible. It has its place, but I will never be in that place so I pass on .40. It seems 9mm and 45/10 are better and cover the same benefits depending on if you want to go up or down.

>>64366746
There are plenty of normal weight women who also don't look like they've been irradiated
The hysterics are unnecessary

>>64366364
Very stupid comparison, 9mm has easy recoil, good barrel life, and good capacity.

>>64364406
>more recoil than 9mm
My dick has more recoil than 9, softhands. This is a forum for guns, not nerf.

>>64366716
What the fuck does that even mean? Also I carry a cheap .380 I bought for under $200 cause it fits in a trigger sleeve thing in my cargo pants pockets. I mog you

>>64365972
>there's a reason it's being left behind
Yes, because large corporations convinced the government and other dipshits to switch calibers again so they could sell them an entire new fleet of firearms and accessories, and bootlicking wanna-be-cop cosplayers can't help but follow suite.

captcha:DOJSW

>>64366211
>The centimeter IS the 40 s&w retard
Wrong again, child. They both fire a projectile 10mm in diameter, the only difference is that .40 S&W has a shorter case. However, 10mm AUTO is the one designated in millimeters instead of caliber, and therefore 10mm is the true and honest centimeter. Enjoy prison.

>>64366872
>t.weakass manlet who will die in a ditch

>>64366906
Yeah, stupid corporate sheep, they should have stuck with the old scam instead!

>>64366924
Carrying anything but 9mm in a pistol is a meme. Even 10mm is a meme, unless you carry specifically for moose/bears/mountainlions/other dangerous wildlife.

>>64366935
>t.dyel faggot

>>64365822
>expensive meme
Save this screenshot for this exact .40s&w cope.

>>64366641

> Keep in mind that most people conceal carrying 9mm now are not using the same 4" barrel length the FBI used for their test.

Here's a series of tests conducted with a S&W Shield (3.1" barrel)

https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/best-self-defense-ammo/

9mm can still perform well. Federal HST run from 15.4" to 18.7" penetration and .64" to .68" expansion.

Same test with .40 (using a slightly longer barrel) 180g Federal HST penetrates 16.4" and expands to .72". Certainly slightly better, but is that really enough difference to make a difference? To some, probably, but I can see why 9mm is popular.

>>64364379
Preach anon
>>64363904 (OP)
Idk if her man does the writing for the videos but regardless this video has so little substance.

>>64363904 (OP)
>female

>>64365628
9 mm is second best (to 40 and 45).
10 mm is for hunting and long range target shooting; a blaster cartridge that requires a minimum 5-inch barrel otherwise gases/energy wasted out the muzzle.

>>64366274
Video that everyone itt needs to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIB58HYc3F0

>>64365440
chudette

>>64365440
>>64363904 (OP)

>>64363904 (OP)
Compromise caliber, hard pass. If I need more power than 9mm I'm going straight to .357 and if I want to bighole larp then it's .45.
>>64365784
Honestly I think the whole .40 woodsgun meme that's been getting pushed again the last couple years is absolutely retarded. I don't agree with the 10% more that .40 offers over 9mm being meaningful for typical SD use but at least it's got some degree of reasonability to it. But seriously, a bear? Thats like arguing whether a .17 or .175 would be better for defense against people. Either one is a massively unimpressive hole poker. Add on top of it that 9mm hardcast actually out penetrates .40 and it's absolutely DOA. I know which shitty little hole punch I'd want if I was forced to use one against a bear, and it's the lowest recoiling and deepest penetrating one.

>>64366910
>10mm is the true and honest centimeter
It literally isn't. Paul Leibenberg designed and coined the term "centimeter" in thr 80s. It was a cutdown 10mm Norma loaded soft for competition. That's what 40S&W is based on. The centimeter has ALWAYS been 40 S&W. Leddit decided to adopt the phrase because it was catchy but thats not what it actually means.

Similar phenomenon where people claim the BHP is a wonder none when it isn't.

>Enjoy prison
Calling redditors faggots isn't illegal in my country. Faggot.

>>64367120
That’s the only downside to 10mm is how unloaded a lot of the companies that sell bulk of it is. The round was designed to be 200grains at over 1200 fps. You can still find loading is that hot but they’re way more expensive.

>>64367535
Are you trying to make her attractive?

>>64364379
>higher velocity ceiling than either 9 or 45
>more case capacity ass out of shorter barrels

Outside of that, we can make any relevant caliber look mid, apples to oranges.

.40 is irrelevant when 1cm and .357 sig exist

.40 is the best caliber ever that's why everyone everywhere uses it oh wait

>>64363904 (OP)
Niggas will do anything but use a magnum revolver, might as well carry a p365 at that point

I know people love the Glock 26 but how is the 27?

>>64368533
ngl a compact CCW and a 10mm/magnum revolver for giganiggas/bears is unironically more useful than a full size 9/40/45

>>64368554
a full size pistol in 9 45 or 40 can use subsonic ammo and be considered hearing safe by OSHA with a can, would make for a good nightstand gun, fun for larping too

>>64368533
I'm slowly thinking this might be the meta. I carry a fullsize handgun which is pretty rare as is. Might as well login to a magnum revolver so I also have a range/bear gun and have a 1.5 stack for when concealment actually matters.

>>64368560
Can on a small gun makes more sense if youre already not chasing velocity. A Walther PPS sized gun doesn't give up anything being suppressed over a g19 and it's smaller.

>>64368554
>>64368584
based and bondpilled, hopefully walther shows off their new microcompact at shotshow next year
>>64368560
a compact (G19, PDPC, etc) could run double duty if you wanted it to, a bit large for carry with a threaded barrel but it can work

>>64366373
>>64366418
Because of this exact type of attention received from you dumb faggots? The amount of self-awareness of you fucking niggers...

>>64365813
Because most loading of 10mm available comedically are barely stronger then .40>>64363904 (OP)
So what you're saying is I should just buy a USP.40 and a 9mm barrel and swap between them for whenever the caliber is in vouge

>>64366649
Being short is hell.

>>64368281
>.357 sig exist
The only reason .357 sig still exists is conversion barrels for .40 guns.

>>64366665
>How many miles of meat has hop taken?
ALL OF THEM. TWICE.

>>64367635
The whole “bear gun” thing is itself a meme. It’s a politically correct euphemistic way for the firearms industry to market 10mm, which was intended to be extended-range magnum cartridge for defense against hordes of cracked-out 300 lbs rioting dindus.

>>64366703
>but she’s not like ugly to look at her anything either

>>64369130
>this is what gun autists find attractive
looks exactly like a sub 5 chud with a wig kek, I wouldn't be surprised if it is

>tfw Aim Surplus just dropped a batch of unissued copsurp two-tone USP 40 Compacts
Um, bros? What do?

>>64363904 (OP)
No. 10mm Master Race.

>>64369151
Well I would buy it for myself as a birthday present but I'm flat broke right now

>>64365790
>9mm is just as capable with modern hollow points chud!
>what about .40 and .45?
>ACK
HST and XTP are absolutely catastrophic in 10mm, I'm talking .69-.73 expansion with 13" of penetration, 10mm is where hollowpoints come to transcend into rifle levels of performance.

>>64363904 (OP)
It’s always been here. I have to resist hoarding even more trade in ammo as I’m stacked deep.

>>64369236
why would 40 make me mad. That shit is cheap as fuck practice ammo i run out of my g40 10mm .

>>64369239
It shouldn’t make you mad, I carried it for years and saw plenty of good real world results. I’m not sure why 9mm fanboys are so insecure.

Glock 30 for life baybee.
>people
Winchester Ranger T with 1" expansion
>bear/moose
Hard cast lead all day son

>>64369236
a great round to have stacked deep, especially if have several suited-for-the-round handguns for it.
It's the urban combat handgun round for discerning pistol marksmen.

>>64369130
>ACKSHULKY IM A BALLISTICIAN
Ok sweetie but you still need to gag on it. 32ACP>9mm by the way.

ITT: anons who most definitely don't get laid critique a woman that shoots more than they do

>>64369440
also owns more guns than most of them

>>64369297
>I’m not sure why 9mm fanboys are so insecure.
The bought 9mm not because of what it is but because of who liked it. That's the difference. If it isn't the most popular cartridge then it means they made the wrong choice which is unacceptable in their pov.

>>64369440
>woman that shoots more than they do
And? Wow she's such a trigger pulling badass hecking gun but just like me. Foids with male hobbies are even more of s red flag than horse chicks LMAO.

I'm not obsessed with shooting. It's one of many hobbies I enjoy. Try it sometime.

>>64369442
/k/ has never been more noguns than it is at this present time

>>64369446
>being that defensive
Just admit you suck at shooting instead of lying about being too busy having hobbies to take part in your hobbies

>>64369456
I don't really think she shoots better than me but even if I did that's not how I seek out self worth. That was the entire point that you missed by clit measuring about who's the bestest ever. In reality she admitted to getting bullied by recoil and being weak. I like dangerous game rifles so I doubt we'd have much in common. She seems weak enough to hold down while you whip out your kazoo and play Dixie though.

>>64369450
for some reason owning a gun is very hard for some people

>>64369471
>writing a thesis
Find a real identity so you won't get so upset over other people

>>64369474
It's at least half redditors now. I bet maybe 1 in 15 anons owns a gun. 1 in 10 having shot one. 1 in 5 seeing one in person

>>64369440
I don't know what to make of it. The video seems to be pretty factual, researched, but the b roll of her shooting doesn't look great. I don't really watch women shoot so I don't know if that's good or bad for women but it looks pretty bad for a male. Her competition on the other hand, anons on 4chan, mean she actually does do pretty well considering prolific posters like ppanon.

She definitely doesn't shoot more than me

>>64369515
/k/ always soils its pampers when a woman is posted. The olympic shooting threads being the most hilarious and absurd

>women wrote a wish list of traits they want in a man
>Try to become that man thinking it'll attract him
Lmao foid shit.

>>64369639
>being so self-centered that he thinks women modify their entire identities to win his affection
Mommy did a massive number on you boy lol

>>64369658
He thinks women don't sincerely have hobbies

Hop and his boyfriend assfacts simping so hard rn. LMAO

>>64369669
They don't do shotgun videos, that tells me all you need to know (they're manlets)

>>64369704
Is it just me or do most rifles kick harder than a 12 gauge? 12 gauge is very manageable

>>64369723
Depends on the load and gun weight, low recoil #4 buck is easy but high brass 00 buck kinda hurts, if you add a limb saver and use the push pull method that will reduce the felt recoil too. Higher caliber rifles (308 and up) kick the same or more in a lightweight hunting boltgun, but are easier to shoot than a 12g in a big AR10

>>64369428
During peak BLM Covid panic buying I was buying 50 rd boxes of Ranger T’s for $20 when everything else was unavailable at any price. Seems like only more agencies have switched to 9mm so the prices have stayed down.

>>64369446
Having worked for 3 LE agencies I wouldn’t put much stock in any weapons related decisions. $$$$$ is the driving factor and wear tear and training costs for poor shooters was hurting the budget. I doubt any agency that used purpose build guns like a P Series had problems but the FBI was wearing out their G22’s.

>>64369794
Yeah. Just always found it interesting that 12ga is some informal gold standard in recoil. Shooting a .30-30 was more harsh than any 12ga I've shot, and that includes those old H&R single barrels that weigh like 6 pounds

>>64369867
let me guess the 30-30 was a steel buttplate maybe plastic and the shotgun had 1inch of rubber

>>64369916
Mixture of the two for both. Maybe my perception is odd. The same way that specifically K98ks, and no other 8mm rifle, isn't loud.

>>64369130
she just looks like a femcel

>>64369957
Pretty sure the burly guy we sort of see sometimes is her man

>>64368918
>Because most loading of 10mm available comedically are barely stronger then .40
Dead meme.

>>64369439
PPtroon, please

As the owner of the best 9mm, .40, and .45 I can confirm that the 9mm is strictly a range toy, akin to a 22lr. Cheap, light and fun to plink with. Would I trust my life with it over the 40 or 45? No shot. The 45 is my favorite, but I think the 40 is growing on me.

>pic very related

>>64368918
Did you not see >>64367120?
The most energetic 40s&w barely touches the weakest 10mm, grainsXfps vs grainsXfps.
Whatever retard started saying that really should have been called out immediately because it's factually wrong on it's face.

Most people that do IPSC here use CZs chambered in .40 and reload ammo.
I see a lot of the CZ shadow 2 with bull barrels. Very fun to shoot and accurate, but it's a 2-3k gun, not sure mutts like spending more than $300 burgershekels on firearms

>>64369964
Burly guy?

>>64370545
Rent free, you can't own guns btw

you literally only like .40sw because its unpopular or because you bought a 300 dollar LE-Trade p226.

all other reasons are fake.

>>64370425
I'm really sad the P2000 got discontinued and HK never made a 45SK.

>>64371337
>1337

>uhhh yeah i bought it because .40sw is based!
>it had nothing to do with the fact that the .40 version was 300 dollars cheaper!

>>64367120
Kek, both of those are milder than my mild 185 grain .45 loads, although those where chronographed out of a USP Standard. They'd probably be right on out of a Compact, with plenty of room to load much hotter. God I love .45.

>>64371352
>you're not allowed to like something if you bought it cheap
Guess my enjoyment of my SKS was all a lie

>>64371409
do you make threads talking about how the SKS is actually, secretly, the best rifle in the world and that 7.62x39 is actually the best intermediate round ever made?

>>64371352
$700 for a used gun isn't really cheap though. It's more the fact that the two-tone USPs are uncommon. When HKParts gets stripped stainless slides, they're like $500 and sell out quickly.

>>64370476
It was true for a while, but not any longer. A lot of commercial 10mm Ammo was FBI loaded (ergo like .40), and especially hollowpoints, because manufacturers were lazy and wanted to reuse .40 hollowpoints, with the stated excuse that "Actually, hollowpoints in 10mm work better when they're slower!" which is a pretty fucking dirty lie by omission.

>>64371403
.45 is love, .45 is life.

>>64371417
False, true

>>64369130
>Hop and brassfacts thirst out over a 6/10 gun hoe
Disappointing. Honestly wouldn't really care if she actually knew what she was talking about. The one video I did watch was full of half baked knowledge with frequent inaccuracies from somebody claiming to totally be a HECKIN expert so I've pretty much filtered anything else she's in. Gay memes aside, I'd bet dollars to donuts brassfacts either ends up dating hops sloppy seconds or gets cucked by him.

>>64371417
I mean, and I say this with all sincerity, I think the SKS is the most fun intermediate rifle I have ever shot, mostly because I don't have to take it seriously. Best way I can describe it is as such: with an AK or an AR, I practice with them but with the SKS I just shoot it. In a way it's the best rifle in a world, my world.

Also, again I say this completely genuinely, 7.62x39 is better than 5.56 in a lot of applications. Specifically it's better in subsonic, out of short barrels, and has better soft point performance. If 7.62x39 was a truly conceptually bad round then why is 300 blackout, a round which is basically 7.62x39 but won't crack an AR-15 bolt, so popular with LEAs, civilians, and SOFs? So again, depending on your use case, yes it is the best intermediate caliber (though I still have a place in my heart for 6.5 Grendel)

>>64363913
It had a brief spot in the limelight when 90s and 00s 9mm jhps couldn't meet barrier penetration requirements.

It's obsolete at this point.

>>64368960
And thats exactly what I did with my LEO trade in glock brand glock 22 I bought for $250

>>64363904 (OP)
It filled a niche when the AWB was still active. You got fucked in the capacity department anyways so moving up to .40 in the same handgun made a lot of sense. Modern 9mm is really good so .40 kind of fell by the wayside because of capacity limits, but modern .40 loadings are no joke and can get really close to, if not match, 10mm velocities. You also get access to relatively cheap ammo that never disappears from shelves during panics if you buy ammo in store. It's unfortunately not a good round for average size and below men, but if you have some muscle it's very manageable. Long story short it's a good round but it's niche, and was only practical for most when laws made it the best compromise available. It could still make a good CC round if you live in an area where wild animals are a threat, or maybe you inherited or already have a .40 handgun and would rather spend money on ammo and training than buying a new gun.

>>64371570
Hop is an incel, he's proof that tall men can be incels.

>>64369214
use sezzle, payments like a boss

>>64369410
Is it too big to fit in a pants pocket? I'm thinking about snagging the Gen 5.

>>64372793
It's a little too big for a pocket. Take a Glock 19 and chop the grip and that's about what it feels like. Great in the waistband though.

>>64365790
>>64369224
>holy shit dude the attacker will bleed out in 28 seconds instead of 30 if you miss vitals it's OVER for 9mm
get real

>>64363904 (OP)
Why do women always have those grey dull rooms? I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!

>>64373005
I think it's color grading. Pretty much just a lack of good editing.

>>64364379
.40 will always be stained by the mass amounts of 9mm rechamberings as opposed to guns properly built for the caliber, that can handle the hotter loads and still retain capacity ie like the USP40 - that is bar none the best .40 I've ever shot, esp with the jetfunnel + mags

>>64373005
Unironically HGTV started the trend that every house needs to be a "blank slate" for resale value so now we're stuck in an eternal cycle of cycling between all grey or all beige every ten years.

>>64371677
checked, .40 S&W is a far more effective and powerful round than 9 mm. Its sole "drawback" in comparison to 9 mm is a few rounds less than a comparable 9 mm handgun in magazine capacity That's it that's all
.40 S&W and .45 ACP are the best two semiauto handgun cartridges available

>>64371339
The HK45 is basically a p2k in 45. I guess it’s more p30 like in ergonomics, but I think that they feel more solid like the p2k compared to the p30.

>>64369669
Hop has always been a .40 enjoyer

>>64373395
He's a gun hipster

>>64373436
*gun hipster in denial

>>64373395
>I only like Glock 19s and 11.5 ARs
>But here's my collection of hipster slop
Why is xe like this

>>64371339
>>64373349
HK 45C uses essentially a P2000 grip/texture
full size has its own grip

>>64370775
There's a bigger dude with a beard you see in the background sometimes, probably accidentally

>>64373011
Never been in a newer construction house? They all look like that

>>64373723
I have not, tbf the whole shot looks gray from her hair and skin to the dark door and the decor in the background.

>>64364169
lol I do know a lot of blacks who like .40 s&w

>>64373706
That's hops bull, brassfacts gets to watch from the cuck chair

>>64373395
Thats not what I'm talking about.
Protip: they're itt.

>>64373005
>grey dull rooms
it's a dumb trend and basically a sign of either babby's first flip or company that just bangs them out one after another without any thought or care
>>64373040
also this

>>64368913
I'm not giving them attention, I highly doubt they come to 4chan

>>64364379
>Own Tanfolgio Italian CZ clone in 10mm
>.40 Soft and Weak niggers try to pretend .40 "just a shorter 10mm!"
>Gets mogged by 10mm in every way
>Same capacity, better ballistics, better wound channels, sexier guns, faggots are prevented from using it because of weak wrists
>.40 fags tell people they are you but really are just boot licking cop wannabes
>the 10mm kills the cops instantly
>40 Saggy and worthless gets caught in his vest and earns you a bullet in the gut because low IQ retards who become cops must aim center mass or miss and hit the closest civilian

Remember terminally online basement dwellers (and Israelis who make up over 50% of all posts on 4chan) that anyone claiming .40S&W isn't a dumpster fire of a round ask them why everyone who was professionally using the round has stopped

>>64375360
Nice knife hand

>>64373759
.40 Swishers and Welfare

>>64375431
>ask them why everyone who was professionally using the round has stopped
Sounds a lot like 10mm

>>64375431
>ask them why everyone who was professionally using the round has stopped
Because 9mm is cheaper and softer shooting for femoids. That's literally it. Once the FBI gave new 9mm duty loads the green light, that was all any other .gov users needed to hear. There was no deeper thought put into it. Now ask yourself if 9mm would have remained relevant if it wasn't for NATO and the Germans leaving stockpiles of it all over Belgium and France in the 1940s. The fact of the matter is that anything less than 45 ACP is a cope. 40 S&W only exists because it was not apropos for the FBI to solicit congress for a new 45 handgun after Miami-Dade due to the US Army just retiring their 45s for the M9. The FBI settled on 10mm instead due to the projectile being smaller and more politically correct than 45, and downloaded the original nuclear-tier frame-cracking Norma load to mimic 45 ACP. Smith & Wesson took that load data and shortened the case to fit in small-frame 9mm handguns that are less cumbersome, heavy, and easier for the average person to hold.

tl;dr there's nothing wrong with 40.

>>64375464
The 10mm stop being used by the FBI because they stopped hiring strong white men and started hiring fat black women and string bean faggots
>literally look at training videos on youtube of FBI recruit classes in 1990 and now
>Shaniqua and Eduardo can fire a gun into a crowd of people now without dislocating the growth plate in their wrist!~

>>64375570
Smith and Faggot tried to do what every government whore does, and secure government contracts by inventing a new shitty round they could slap on their firearms and sell at a markup. Too bad every department using them *across the board* received complaints about it vs 9mm. And 10mm is objectively better than 9mm in every way.

>>64364536
What is up with hop and brassfacts. They strike me as fag communists like that bald dude from forgotten weapons

>>64375431
I had a Tanfolgio match in 10mm and it would last maybe 100 rounds of underwood 10mm before the frame was cracked. Got 3 replacements for it before I sold it. Kinda wish I kept it since EAA stopped importing them and I never see them in the wild anymore

>>64375748
I don't know about brassfacts, but hop is what you would expect from a guy who is into guns and gaming, he's not a leftist by any stretch of the imagination.

>>64375570
>Because 9mm is cheaper and softer shooting for femoids. That's literally it. Once the FBI gave new 9mm duty loads the green light, that was all any other .gov users needed to hear. There was no deeper thought put into it
Actually it's because the average cop is an awful shot with a ~20% hit rate in an actual shooting so any sort of min maxing ballistics for them is retarded. Women make up, what, 10% of FBI field agents?

>>64375694
>The 10mm stop being used by the FBI because they stopped hiring strong white men and started hiring fat black women and string bean faggots
They dropped 10mm because they would shoot 1k+ rounds of it during their training sessions. The original nuclear-tier load was too punishing even for grown men with that sort of firing schedule, not to mention the steel-framed guns of the time. The switch from 40 to 9mm was a result of Affirmative Action/DEI hiring practices as well as budgetary concerns.
>And 10mm is objectively better than 9mm in every way.
I hate the general 9mm dickriding in the industry right now, but it has its place. I like the idea of 10mm, but there's a better selection of pistols in 45 ACP.
>>64375830
This is my major concern about 10mm and why I haven't bought one yet. I can carry defensive +P JHP in just about any new production 45 ACP handgun and not worry about breaking anything. The performance advantages of 10mm over 45 really only matter at 2nd degree murder distances.

>>64376053
My Glock 40 has about 800 rounds total of various boutique 10mm loads and is still perfect.

Meanwhile on the Tanfolgio I had a trick recoil spring in it and buffers and everyone on the forums said I was running over loaded hand loads.

If I could buy it again I would have gotten it in 9mm like a normal person. I gotta find another cool CZ clone one day

>>64376089
Yeah shooting bubba's pissin' hot loads from any steel-framed handgun without a compensator to delay the action from unlocking is asking for a bad time. A heavier recoil spring can help, but that also puts more impact force on the frame when the slide goes back into battery (hence the buffers). IDK of any steel-framed 10mm handgun that would survive a diet of Underwood and Buffalo Bore unless you tricked out a Colt Delta Elite or some other 10mm 1911 with a threaded Jarvis barrel+compensator.

>>64371428
700 dollars for a two-tone USP is basically a steal.

>>64375748
90% sure he's ftm or at least intersex. I used to think it was a meme but I work with a ftm now and the mannerisms, voice, body language, and hand movements are damn near 1:1. Even has the weird face structure where it looks like someone grafted a chin to a random head.

Think about it. How many of your guy friends do you casually talk about being in a relationship with, just kidding we're totally not gay here's a lesbian joke?

Exactly.

>>64375748
>They strike me as fag communists

whys that?

>>64376205
The Underwood ammo I ran was standard pressure factory loads. Had a lot of emails with underwood about this as well and they confirmed their loading, I sent samples of my ammo to EAA for them to chrono. And they also reported the ammo being safe spec.

The Tanfolgio just couldn't deal with 10mm, I never ran any bulk trash in it. Id imagine regular off the shelf 10mm would have been fine. I was also eating FFL fees plus shipping each time I sent it back which was like 70 bucks total each time. I sold it off at the tail end of the Obama years so I got more then I paid for it back
I still regret selling it because Ive never seen a Elite Match anywhere else but I also regret getting it in 10mm and not 9mm.

>>64376222
No way

>>64376238
Ya know, I can't put my finger on it. Which is kinda shitty for sure to just say. I just got a feeling about him. Same feeling as I had about Karl from in range and we all saw what happened with him.

Hope I'm wrong though I do like his videos

>>64374850
lmao
Nick and his eternal hatred of Dove Gray

>>64376222
The thing that makes me want to believe this is that he talks about beer like it's ambrosia and brings it up every chance he can, it just seems very performative. Could just be autism though.

>>64376246
Tanfoglio guns are primarily designed for IPSC so it doesn't surprise me that it couldn't handle top-shelf 10mm. Sig V-Crown is pretty much the hottest 10mm defensive ammo people recommend for unmodified steel-frame guns afaik.

>>64376304
I guess, but Tanfolgio shouldn't have made it in 10mm if it couldn't deal with it. Also I did mod it, had trick recoil spring and a rail buffer or whatever it's called in it. Still beat the frame so bad it wasn't safe to shoot.

>>64376298
You guys are mind broke from tranny posters on the Internet. Dude doesn't look tranny at all, comes off as a PNW hipster which is what he is

>>64375748
hop has the "asshole but knows his shit" autism, BF has the "rambles about nothing for hours" autism

>>64376518
Is it just me or does BF remind you of nutenfancy. I'm unironically a fan of nuten and BF reminds me of him

>>64376298
He's an alcoholic, that's why he talks about beer so much

>>64375570
>>64375694
>>64376053
Correct there is nothing at all 'wrong' with .40


Every anon itt needs to watch the video in post # 64367388 <---------

>>64376560
He drinks craft beers, you can't be an acholic drinking that shit

>>64376588
This is true, you'll go bankrupt by the fourth round

>>64376583
I don't care about your shitty channel

>>64376609
it's not "my channel"
AND EVERY FAGGOT *JUST LIKE (You)* itt needs to watch that video.
entire OP topic and 200 replies = Retardation

>>64376612
Link the post correctly or suck a dick

>>64376595
You can't drink enough craft beers to make you an alcoholic because the hops will make you fucking barf

>>64376612
I'm not watching your video mr jewtuber, you have to go back

>>64376619
>>64376632
>hurr durr
The post is embedded (YouTube) upthread.
Watch the video, its content. Then come back and critique it.
Instead of handwringing like trannies that just chopped off each others' wangs.

Anyone that criticizes or doesn't like .40 S&W is a weak-wristed Faggot.

>>64376637
You can't even link the post correctly, I'm not even saying anything about what argument you are trying to make about 40. Link the post correctly and I'll consider your points

>>64376642
40 is just a weaker 10mm, if you can't handle 10mm you are limp wristed

>>64376642
t. guy who thinks the weight of his gun directly affects the size of his wrists

I have carried a FAWTY in a professional manner and enjoyed it and own multiple 40 calls for personal shooting and carry.

I just think they're neat.

>>64376642
Too weak for a 44 mag? SAD!

>>64376560
Am I an alcoholic if I drink a pint of my weeb Sapporo beer every night?

>>64376691
do you even own a .44 mag pistol?

>>64376784
Do you even own a 40 short and weak pistol?

>>64376817
Kys shitposting faggot, I don't need to prove shit, post your 44 or gtfo

>>64376817
Yes I do, no I'm not posting it for you faggots
>>64376821
Quit impersonating me you inbred fucking shitposter

>>64376624
There's other varieties of craft beer besides overly hoppy IPAs (more like Indigestible Piss Ale amirite?)

>>64376947
Nothing wrong with a Miller High Life

.40s&w passed all the tests the 10mm passed to get adopted. .40 is just the load the fbi worked out was the best comprise for performance, recoil and handgun size. 9mm has NEVER passed those tests. That says it all right there.

>>64376645
>muh link post
Wtf are (You) babbling about fucktard

# 64367388


Video that everyone itt needs to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIB58HYc3F0

>>64377005
Lucky gunner has one positive. They fire rounds into clear gel and post depth, pictures and expanded diameter. That is exactly what gel is for. To compare one bullet or caliber to another in a standard medium.
Outside that lucky gunner is fucking dumb as shit fuckface retard bitch boys that are quite possibly led around by the nose by an actual retard. The opinions they give should be ignored at best.

>>64376999
If you're too retarded to even follow the conversation I'm not sure how worth it is to explain how your post linking the other pair with the video is broken.

>>64377015
>fucking dumb as shit fuckface retard bitch boy
Well, that is (You).

>>64377052
>the other pair
? Wtf ??!? "pair" of _what_ Fuckbrain?
link (You) just quoted is identical URL already-posted upthread^^^^^^

>>64377061
Post*

But uhhh you are retarded and I wish you would use a tripp so I could filter you.

>>64377005
Dunno if that's you or not but you did post the video but you didn't link the post correctly.

>>64377069
Didn't "link" --- 'the post' --- because (You) can search it (You)rself. Not going to keep re-linking-quoting the same post inside of a thread (You) can giga-easily reach (You)rself.
Get the fuck out of 4chan

>>64377085
I can't even tell if this is ironic shit posting or not.

Anyways, 40 always kind of sucked and with modern 9mm loadings it's really irrelevant.

>>64377094
Are (You) the "muh link" poster? Yes or No

.40 S&W and .45 ACP are the two best handgun rounds available.

>>64377119
Yeah, I'm the guy that expects you to link the posts you are referencing.

45 is great of course, dunno why you like 40 it's literally a compromise cartridge for in the FBI

>>64376994
Is that why they use 9mm? Is that why 9mm passed all of those tests? Is that why nobody uses 40 and 10?

>>64377119
And you own neither, SAD! Many such cases.

Not that I like 40 but I wouldn't mind having a pistol for it just for fun. What is the definitive 40 cal pistol? Like how 1911 is for 45 for example

>>64377134
ok nogunz.
I own two in the former and three in the latter

>>64377125
I like .40 S&W in handguns that are designed for it

>>64377184
>definitive 40 cal pistol
see picrel

>>64377192
>I own two in the former and three in the latter
>Stock image
No you don't

>>64377200
>hurr durr frogposter
I'm not posting photographs of my armory onto the internet.
Also I don't (yet) own a Px4 in .40

Post # 273
about thirty more butthurt posts and this one is Off Of The /k/ Catalog forever

>>64377210
>Hipster gun shill
>Doesn't own guns
Every. Single. Time.

>>64377226
back to boomerbook, gramps

>>64377226
Addendum: /hg/ and /arg/, are not /k/
they are cancerslop invaders from plebbit
idgaf about that Faggotard posting all of the 9 mm Px4 Compacts, whoever that is they're plebbitard cancer
and Px4 Compacts modded by Faggotboy aren't Px4s
the only Real Px4 is a full size in .40 S&W

Post #277
thirty-three more posts of limp wristed malding to go

>>64377231
>>64377238
>he doesn't own guns

>>64377243
See picrel
>>64377245
>Implying /k/ isn't a thirdie cope board

>>64377243
I know I shouldn't feed (you) but I gotta ask, Where did you pick up these posting habits? I've never seen anyone shit post like you do, the syntax is so fucking weird

>>64377243
This, everyone should be carrying 357 magnum, anything weaker will make you die in da streetz

>>64377245
>>64377256
>>64377267
>'i-it's your style of posting, that's the problem'
Just shut the fuck up.

Post #280
thirty more posts of dilation to go

>>64377267
POST #282
kys newfag
>>64377273
Quit impersonating me you stupid fucking nigger

>>64377271
Why is everyone scared of .40 S&W
that's the question

>>64363904 (OP)
All you need is 22lr and I'm tired of pretending otherwise, worked for special forces

>>64377273
>>64377276
Ohh shit it's spreading

>>64363904 (OP)
>W*man
Opinion ignored, 40 and 10 are for gay hipster faggots

>>64377296
>>64377283
#288
quit replying you stupid fucking bitch wrists nigger
>>64377302
kys fudd gun grabber faggot

>>64377308
I don't get how you, the 40 simp is accusing anyone of being a limp wrist.

Truly mentally retarded

>>64377314
#290 10 more posts of your bitch fucking ass moaning, weakass lol9 faggot kys

>>64377302
>>64377314
the final 20 posts itt are reserved for pure unadulterated shitposting

>>64377319
I prefer 10mm

>>64377319
the 9 mm fags "i-it's got modern lare truly insufferable

>>64377319
For me it's 454 cassull

>>64377334
>the 9 mm fags "i-it's got modern loadings"

>>64377336
Big iron on your hippp

>>64377334
>>64377337
Can't spell award
Noguns award
9 c

>>64363904 (OP)
If you aren't carrying a gen 3 Glock 19 in 9mm YOU ARE FUCKING GAY

>>64377291
Is 22lr healthy for you?

>>64377350
Yeah, get shot with lots of 22 to build up resistance to bullets

>>64377343
the reply window timer closed as I was typing

>>64377353
Getting shot with picrel is the fastest way to grind the bullet resistance stat IMO

>>64377355
No I just really like stoeger

>>64377364
I'm ok with Stoeger's re-pop of the Beretta 8000

>>64369224
>9mm is just as capable with modern hollow points chud!
At first I thought people were just aggressively missing the point on purpose but at this point they have to be actually retarded.
Early days JHP technology was garbage which meant that they were not barrier blind, they plugged easily, and were often designed with "energy dump" in mind and opened way too quickly which lead to impressive temporary stretch cavity but shallow penetration.
With .45 and .40 you had the "flying ashtray" effect of flinging so much mass at the target it didn't matter if you lost half the lead content after hitting a barrier or if it expanded too quickly because eventually the petals would fold back and bullet base had enough inertia to keep on trucking and tear up the vital organs.
What "modern hollow point technology" did for 9mm was taking a shitty caliber that couldn't perform worth a fuck outside of perfect parameters and make it pass the bare minimum requirements.
What "modern hollow point technology" did for .45 and .40 was make the bullets prettier when you pick them up from the ground or pull them from inside a body. With older bullet tech .40/.45 the bullets could get mangled after hitting bone or punching through a car windshield and the remaining 90gr chunk of lead with the jacket missing could still pierce the heart or clip someone's spine. With modern tech the same thing happens but you get uniform expansion and 90-100% weight retention, which looks good in marketing material. But people aren't killed any deader with modern tech.

>>64377377
You don't own guns, your opinion doesn't count Mr jeet

>>64377377
>t.bitchwrists who can't handle a magnum revolver

>>64377382
>>64377385
Noguns alert, kys shitskins

>>64377394
>t.noguns

>>64376222
He had a gaming channel when he was a xbox live tier mic squeaker.
Also he's like 6'5 or whatever.

I prefer 10mm over 40. I really should look into a red dot and some sort of rechargeable light.

>>64377402
for a long time I thought he was younger than me, based on how different his voice was ~4 years ago but it really seems like he had a second puberty after 30

>>64377794
>glawk fowty
damn bruh u a real nigga :fire: I ain't tryna cross yo ass :skull:

>>64376222
>tfw no gun autist fakeboy pussy

>>64377184
>What is the definitive 40 cal pistol?
USP 40

Practice wise, going up in power to 40 s&w doesn't sound that bad
Current top of ammoseek, per 1k, new/brass/CF:
9mm $200
40 s&w $250
45 acp $350
357 sig $350 (typically more)
10mm $360
Interesting thing about 40 is that loads vary wildly, there are 135gr that go 1400 apparently, which is insane because the one trick 357 sig does is throw 125gr bullet that fast. There are ones advertised as low as 1200 with same weight, there are subsonic 180gr ammo and a bunch of in between 155-165.