Thread 64372676

How will the war between the China and US over Taiwan look like?

>>64372676 (OP)
Every PLA soldier will be assfucked on live television before being deported back to their homeland.

>>64372676 (OP)
Ugly and likely ruinous for both countries.

>>64372676 (OP)
President Trump ends up saying that we never were supposed to defend Taiwan anyway.

>>64372676 (OP)
Tactical advantage of being fat in the military?

>>64372676 (OP)
well it will entirely depend on the first days of the war
if chinks do land successfully it will be worse than normandy for both sides
question is will americans be able to sink all chinese ships? or will chinks sink american ships?
i highly doubt that chinks would nuke
also there is a question of that bigass dam that can flood like 600 million people

chinkshill feeling bruised about those f22 twitter screencap threads earlier lol

>>64372676 (OP)
>KMT elements throw taiwa into a civil war
>mutts busy deploying all their carriers to defend Israel
The western allied Taiwanese will be slaughtered

>>64372940
Cool, now post the losses and compare the map to today.

>>64372676 (OP)
Guys on the right could literally eat two or three Chinamen each, comfortably.

>>64372940
The Korean war cope is probably the most pathetic of all chinksect cope. That would be like China taking half of Mexico, installing major military bases there, and Americans saying "yeah well you didn't take the whole thing so actually we win!"

>>64372940
What's up with the increase in Korean war chinkposting? Did they have some kind of big push in propaganda centered around it?

>>64372974
They probably have a manual of BRICShitter cope talking points. They want to get ahead of the whole losing every war thing.

>>64372974
Mao Anying's birthday is coming up so chinkspammers are trying to drown out the annual egg fried rice jokes with Korea implessiveposting. If you don't know what Mao egg fried rice means, search it up and have a laugh.

>>64372676 (OP)
>US obliterates TSMC facilities ASAP as a precaution
>both sides avoid each other as much as possible and fling long range fire at each other
>China likely too prickly for US to get close aside from subs
>US locks down Malacca Strait and Indian Ocean access points
>massive cyber attacks against everyone and everything, everywhere
>guaranteed global economic implosion so severe that it destabilizes like 80% of the governments on earth

huge coin flips on Japan, the Koreas, Philippines getting involved. nonzero chance Russia tries some shit in the Baltics/Scandinavian region even with their forces as eroded as they are. also nonzero chance of zany wacky space weapon shit making their debut

The bugman spamming is getting thicker, any particular reason?

>>64372676 (OP)
>well noncombatants in your state militia are fat so HA! take that!

>>64372697
Long term survival and cold resistance

>>64372998
>Mao egg fried rice
fucking lmaoooooo

>>64373049
Insecurity

>>64372676 (OP)
100 miles versus 7,000 what the fuck do you think it's going to look like

>>64373109
Dericious!

>>64373147
It's going to look implessive!

>>64373120
Why does this cope comic keep getting posted when China has equivalent or even superior technology, especially in the air?

>>64373147
Of course you cannot comprehend logistics

>USA reprograms 2,000 Tomahawks into sea skimmers
>Surprise! They're all 150kt nuclear!
>China's entire navy is turned into a new coral reef for the Taiwanese to profit from via tourism
Capitalism bay bee!

>>64372676 (OP)
What >>64373033 has said for the most part. Some extra things that'll probably be an indicator that shit is about to pop off:
>PRC pulls the vast majority of their cargo and fishing fleets into port
>Electronics and computer components will spontaneously stop working thanks to the ChiComs building kill switches in most computer parts since about the early 00s.
>Massive drone attacks on American commercial ports with the express intent of crippling dockyards.
>Attacks on the powergrid and several arson wildfires.
>5th Columnist on both the left and right being given marching orders to start doing mass shootings and assassinations of government officials.
>Possible deployment of bioweapons by the Chinese that'll disrupt agriculture. See Citrus Greening in Florida.
Lot of this shit is gonna get hectic and fast. I personally don't think the United States will win and its very likely we'll see the United States withdrawing from Japan and South Korea as a result.

>>64373198
You can’t do that! What about the geneva convention and The Hague convention and the *BOOOOM*

>>64372676 (OP)
Trump would never get the US involved in a war over a foreign territorial dispute. The age of presidents throwing the US into every war they can find is over.

>>64373175
post eyes

>>64372676 (OP)
the sea would be filled with dead yellowbodies forming a bridge from china to taiwan

>>64373209
You're an idiot.

>>64372676 (OP)
those cannot be us marines. No way.

>>64372676 (OP)
>China stages
>US glowies notice
>POTUS says there will be serious consequences
>China invades
>US bans tencent from the US
>says Taiwan isn't their problem

>>64373209
Implessive, most implessive!

>>64373242
>fatigues clearly say U.S. Army
Aside from all the other shit going on in pic, they are clearly nat guard 13-weekenders.

>>64373240
it says army on the uniforms.
they are Texas national guard iirc.

>>64373175
HAHAHAHHAHA

>>64373175
>China has equivalent or even superior technology, especially in the air
L O L

West taiwan are the sick men of asia. 亚洲的病人

>>64372676 (OP)
beijing will be razed by the fleet of US top secret flying tictacs in the first minutes of the war, then this >>64372680 buttfucking is non negotiable

>>64373120
i hope every pilot gets raped with serrated bayonets

>>64373175
rmao sir chinese air force stlonk

>>64373212
trumpstein is abkut to go back to afganistan tho

>>64372697
Can go longer without rations.
Tactical pillow for other soldiers to sleep on.
Lower odds of accidental friendly fire when facing emaciated poor countries.

>>64373235
if you honestly think the united states is gonna win, you're huffing paint.

>>64373427
cope all you want. it won't change anything.

>>64372676 (OP)
It would be neat but it'll never get to these scenarios.

West taiwan would probably have most of Asia wanting in on kicking its ass if it started a war over best Taiwan.

The US should invade Taiwan first just to send a message.

>>64373198
>50 years later
>Godzilla emerges off the cost of India
>does that scowl dogs do when they smell something bad
>leaves
>fucks up Japan instead

>>64372676 (OP)
Likely won't happen.

Putin gets away with mulching his population due to circumstances that don't translate that well to Xi and the CCP.
Even attempting to mirror Russia's policy of "just send rural retards to die" doesn't really work for the CCP. There has been so much rural back-migration post-COVID in China you'd end up entangling the educated urbanites anyway.

Oh, also every single death would be extinguishing a bloodline. Which is potentially a point of social friction, too. Hard to say.

>>64373175
>China has equivalent or even superior technology

lol, lmao even

>>64372690
The USA will likely run out of missiles and have to move to total war footing to get production levels up to emergency levels.
100,000 Chinese bloodlines wiped out in a week.
Chinese TV will show the people how they're winning the war
>Losing 10 surface combatants a day
>Chinese CIWS can't even shoot down a tomahawk missile
>India moves it's military in and takes Tibet
>Taiwan gets shelled to shit and looks like Tel Aviv but 10x worse
>Surprisingly few Taiwanese civilian casualties
>China loses half of its 'fishing fleet'
>Hey maybe dis a not a good idea

>>64373212
Taiwan isn't just a territorial war, it represents an obligation we have to the free world.
If we reneg on Taiwan and if Taiwan falls it will be the end of the 'maintain the status quo' era and we'll be back where we started before WW2.
The world needs America as a leader because we keep the stupid Europeans from blowing each other up.

>>64372680
>>64373353
No wonder Americans cunts suck up to vatniks so much. Same gay obsessions.

>>64373175
Implessive.

>>64372940
>history repeats itself verbatim
Khanbros im feeling really good this year.

>>64373212
>Mutual Defense Treaty between the United States and the Republic of China
>Signed 2 December 1954

theres just too many of them

>>64372990
i find it very funny how they use korean war as their big win while it stands as a fortress against maoist-juche union for 1950s up to today

>>64373777
eat shit you brown nogunz

>>64373729
>Braar, saar. Aadil Braar.
If you weren't a jeet-trusting dolt with the IQ of a poached egg you'd have learned that was a mistranslated Chinese idiom.

>>64373797
It was replaced and now we have an implied defense treaty.
It's because we say we support one China in principle even if we don't specify that one China should be controlled by the ROC government.

>>64373802
China lost an embarrassing number of men in Korea and Chinese generals should have been executed over their poor performance.

>>64373804
“Eat shit” says the merry cunt with a mouth full of putins shit

>>64373833
>America bad!
fuck off thirdie. china won't save you.

>>64372676 (OP)

Why american have such retard hatred of chinese while everything you buy is chinese?

>>64373805
>mistranslated Chinese idiom.

I'm sure that's what the general said when he was selling the rocket fuel. China invading Taiwan would bring a shit ton of corruption to light just like how Russia invading Ukraine did.

>>64373852
why do brownoids suck communist cock?

>>64372676 (OP)
Real question is why the fuck china wouldn’t so anything?
America does
Russia did

>>64372972
Who do you think started the Korean War, and what were their goals?

>>64373913
>Who do you think started the Korean War
North Korea
>and what were their goals?
taking all of Korea

do you know what the UN's goals were?

>>64373175
You know who hates the Chinese? Indians
Or it's stuck-up mutts, Chinese bots or fuck knows at this point

>>64373033
operation paperclip style extraction of Taiwanese semi conductor talent by black ops, then deny china use of Taiwanese fabs by stealth bombers and sea launched cruise missiles

>>64373448
I don't know who's gonna win, but Taiwan is definitely gonna lose

>>64372690
The conquest of Baotou will be worth more than africa.

>>64372697
Small arms resistance but with a nerf to mobility and endurance

>>64373945
they've been saying that for 70 years

>>64373934
Nevermind, I misread your post and (somehow) took it as lefty revisionism. In my defense I am recovering from both food poisoning and a bad cold and operating on very little sleep.

>>64373852
Why did people who hate negros use negros for labor?

>>64372940
Huge misstep in UN intelligence so I’ll give you that but supporting Best Korea has ultimately become an unshakable burden for China, so strategic L.

>>64372964
They’ll just be hungry again in an hour

>>64373962
no problem

>>64372974
worst war to bring up for ziggers and chinkcels. the north lost more people and land, they have no cope lmao

>>64373755
>it represents an obligation we have to the free world
Trump wants to pull out of NATO and the UN. He doesn't care about obligations.

>>64373777
No see we rape the OTHER guys, not our own

>>64373175
China does not even have equivalent rain management. I can’t imagine any of their generals know all their jets are probably made out of tofu and black paint.

Like their black tofu. Which is made out of black paint and something else.

>>64373212
>*bombs Iran to secure the nation of gods chosen people*

>>64373369
You're going to have to settle for committing suicide in no man's land.

>>64373033
If TSMC is gone, then who gives a shit about Taiwan? Why fight over it?

>>64373982
>https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG/List/Tier1&ORIGIN_china--people-s-republic-of-d6ee02&DOM_fixed-wing-aircraft-65ca69
You are a fudd wallowing in your own stupidity. According to the US military their jets are fifth generation stealth with fiber-mat RAM. That's the F35/B21 type where it's baked into the structure instead of an applied coating that needs constant retouching like the B2 & F22.

>>64373977
So do I but a deal’s a deal until it’s done.

>>64373852
I don't have the Chinese so much their government and the people paid by said government that shill for them here.

>>64374022
Yeah I’ll believe it when I see it. And I hope I do.

>>64373988
>is so powerful we can bomb countries with no repercussions

>>64372676 (OP)
If anything America will embarrass itself until the UK holds their feet to the fire to step up the help and get involved to stop evil. This is happening today with Ukraine.

>>64373805
>an unironic chink on my board
fuck off

>>64373852
Why can't you write in English properly?

Chip fabs blown up day one. Chinese aggression becomes colloquially known as the killer of Moores Law, despite already approaching its own natural end. Socially they become known as the killers of a golden century, despite how reality actually was.

Chinese economy decimated but continues crawling along years longer than anyone expects.

Taiwan is eventually lost to a literal human flood of bodies. Russia 2.0, even including all the resulting demographic problems. Taiwanese fold shortly after boots land on the island, but organized unrest in mainland china continues for 2-3 generations. Hidden inside existing civil engineering grifts, millions of lives are lost to “corruption” which ignites the general population (already unhappy at the insane amounts of casualties that go unacknowledged by the government).

US does not get directly involved. The unipolar world ends. WWIII starts within 20-30 years. But there’s tons of gaza-level conflicts in the years shortly after Chinese aggression. US isolationism means we again come out on top economically while helping countries rebuild. Only this time we are far more selective, trying to avoid a population + industry boom that would undo all the ecological (& greenhouse gas) reductions that came from all the loss of life. Throwaway culture is dead. People relearn how to fix tools, or go without.

Countries stop trading the potash & fertilizer needed to maintain modern agriculture. They instead export foodstuffs directly. Replacing WWIII’s hard politics with the soft politics of water & food aid. Famine is again a top global killer after 50 golden years.

TLDR: China fucks itself at least as hard as Russia. America pussies out. There’s at least a decade of global conflicts. Tons of people die. We all (except for America) stop taking the modern agriculture global supply chain for granted, but only after its half dead).

>>64374021
To deny our enemies any form of soft power? Hello? You fucking retarded thirdie

>>64372676 (OP)
>How will the war between the China and US over Taiwan look like?
Chinks vs Chunks

>>64374106
“Gosh jolly we sure are better than street shitters”, says amerimutt, as he worships a sacred dog that poops on the street and around his house.

>>64374336
Open defecation is really more of an Indian/chinese/African thing

>>64374357
>doesn’t realize the post was about dogs pooling
>posts PowerPoint slide
Governmutt shutdown means langley employing bots

>>64373053
fatass detected.
this is very shameful, not that you amerilards would know what shame is.

>>64374365
>muh dogs
so a chink is worse than a dog? good for you to admit it.

>>64374367
you're literally 4ft tall

>>64374370
>random bot reply
At least the “countering Chinese” bot probably don’t smell like dog hair like the real Airmen

>>64372676 (OP)
Easy win by China, Nato can´t even stop Russian with shovels, washingmachines and meatwaves attacks. lol

>>64372676 (OP)
Dead trannies floating in the water

>>64374377
was this word salad supposed to make sense?

>>64372676 (OP)
>>64373353
this but unironically the US will take over the world after destroying china with antimatter powered tictacs that can move at half the speed of light

>>64374393
>Nato can´t even stop Russian with shovels, washingmachines and meatwaves attacks. lol
so what you're saying is that Taiwan will lose several islands, sink most of chinese fleet, kill off most of chinese army while NATO just sends some old hand-me-downs while chinese economy collapses under sanctions? pretty pessimistic desu

>>64372697
can catch more bullets

>>64372676 (OP)
Images like this take me back to seeing discussions going like "well why do you need to be fit to pull a trigger?!" or "why should noncombatants be fit?!" and suddenly everyone pulls out the fat jokes because it turns out anyone fat makes a uniform look like absolutely fucking dogshit and embarrassing

>>64373755
What about Ukraine

>>64374396
The chinaman is a bit frazzled so his English is falling apart

>>64374365
It's just hilarious to hear that coming from the world centre for eating dogs, where there's literally the most stray dogs in the world after India, so many that the government actually had to step in lmao
Stay mad chink

>>64374336
>not turning your pet into lo mein is apparently worship to chinks

>>64372676 (OP)
When China invades, #1 question will be if USA will honor their non-signator commitments 4000 miles from US shores? They have troops and navy in Japan but that's after the fact if Taiwan is fully encircled.

>>64374465
As signed allies we've learned US assurances mean very little under this regime. Russia is stopped by us while Trump keeps his troops in Portland and Chicago.

>>64372676 (OP)
Not well for you, chang. By the time the tubbies disembark you're already fucked sideways.

>>64372879
>bigass dam
No one is bombing the three gorges, it'd be treated equivalent to a nuclear strike. You can't wipe out a third of China and then go
>uhhhhhh well technically it was a conventional strike on infrastructure so nuclear retaliation would be uncalled for

>>64374480
But what if we did? You have to admit it would be a great prank.

>>64374425
These Witkoff bitches and his little lawyer pals always talk about the potential threat, not the one actually killing allies. Ever wonder why?

>>64372676 (OP)
Extremely badly for the US

>>64372954
>>64372972
>>64372974
>>64373120
>>64374007
youtu.be/26cly3TZltg?
youtu.be/RlQVz1vRYts?si=SmRJUW5VKPBOlYhD
youtu.be/KBHhsAnxubQ?
youtu.be/Fr1zRFbFr8Y?
youtu.be/JE5-c7y383s?

>>64372974
It's Mao's birthday, so they are all chest thumping

>>64374022
the US military is not a monolith

>>64374188
>russia 2.0
But that stratagem is currently losing russia the war.

>>64374532
Dumb bug, if you look at your own webm, the wumao-35 is taking off on calm seas, while the F-35 looks like it is taking off while in a storm or otherwise turbulent water.

Also
>2 engine betta than wan!
>don queslion why we need two engines in first place, gaijin...

>>64374377
>airmen
Hi helmettard!

>>64372974
They're trying to sell it as a chinese victory, presumably to set expectations regarding losses in the upcoming campaign against tiawan

>>64372697
It gives a +5 unarmed bonus against Chinese

>>64374553
Except that Mao's birthday is on the 26th of December

>>64373053
Don't mock anon those guys are the tip of the spear in the war on "leftist terrorism"

>>64374604
>still trying to force this meme
You realize this instantly identifies you as the screeching chinkshill that has had numerous nervous breakdowns on this board, right?

Why are you so insecure about china’s inability to build a 6th gen? You’ve been seething about this for many months now.

>>64373147
Like the last time?

>>64374607
Something tells me one had much more practice than the other...

Drills mean nothing in the field.

>>64374607
Implessive, vely good rook for china
Surely this wirr transrate to rear wa-ACK

>>64374616
Forgot pic

>>64374616
>>64374615
True because in the modern battlefield drones are king

>>64373561
Give 'em the ol' Norwegian campaign treatment

>>64374636
>thirdie
>is also dronebrained retard
Embarrassing
>o-our soldier drill specific scenario’s obsessively but can’t adapt to change, implessive!
>a-actually they dont matter our drones will carry us!

>>64372676 (OP)
>How will the war between the China and US over Taiwan look like?
Chinese ships will contribute to many new artificial reefs to make up for the ones they destroyed to build air strips on top of.

>>64373805
I'm sure the PLA Rocket Force commander, deputy commander, and chief political commissar all getting sacked and expelled from their party positions a few months earlier was sheer coincidence and utterly unrelated to the state of the PLARF.

>>64372697
More calories for the Chinese when they eat you.

>>64373852
It's not just Americans, anyone with a functioning brain hates the CCP. If America ends the CCP's rule over China by killing most of its leadership, E.G. theoretical war, and the Chinese government is replaced nobody on this Earth will care.

>>64373945
China couldn't even take Kinmen island and the Chinese can see Kinmen island from their coast.

>>64374021
Taiwan isn't the end of China's ambitions. You think they spent trillions of Yuan to take Taiwan? South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines are all next.

>>64374336
Still mad about the whole "Chinese and Dogs Not Allowed" thing, huh?

>>64374393
What is it with the Chinese thinking posting child-tier power fantasy CGI nonsense is anything other than deeply embarrassing?

>the chink shill got so asshurt he starts spamming the folder for hours
Classic chink dog behavior

>>64374393
Excuse me, but this simulation clearly shows how superior American 4th gen is.

>>64374532
You keep posting this even though every time you do, people make fun of you. I'm starting to question whether you're fully sentient.

>>64374604
Is that right?

>>64374393
>Sure let's let a bomber strike group within several hundred miles of your CSG without an immediate response
>Sure let's just leave the broad side of the carrier available to tank all of these missiles
Where is the CSG's entourage? These bombers would be eating gunslingers before they could even get in range in a hot war. The only way this is happening is peacetime.

>>64374665
You appreciate the Taiwanese painting a RoC flag on the side of the island to remind the PRC every single day that it's the RoC's rock.

>>64374708
You gotta* appreciate

>>64372676 (OP)
>>64372680
What if china decides to help a country in south america like Venezuela or Mexico or brazil and "helps" them defend against usa? What if china gives long range drones and missiles to attack usa? What then it would be intresting two proxy wars . Will taiwan be a heaping parking lot and in turn would the south american countey usa is fighting also turn into a parking lot?


The war is fun for people watching on here but those people in those countries are going to lose there families and homes and pets it's going to be very sad.

Imagine if you couldn't go to McDonalds or your switch is blown up or you cant log onto the servers cos of some chinese or americans have blown up the servers.


Also south america is fine to be bombed I dont do hard drugs and it wont effect me but in taiwan they make chips we need then for my video games and pc I want allow it and its not right so we need to tell usa to chill

>>64373033
>>64372676 (OP)
What are you guys going to do is usa starts a war in taiwan with china and destroys all the chips. It would mean no more video games for more then 10 years. Humanity will be in the dark ages. Dont mess with the gamers there will be a civil war I think it would be the start to the end of jews. Once that distraction is gone people are going to make up and start doing stuff.


You take pussy away people are fine with it
You take video games away you get this whole sea of unwashed stinky people who can code and spend a lot of time sitting motionless you are going to get s lot of snipers and drone operators come at you. It's going to be scary

>>64374711
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>64372676 (OP)
Who cares really let china have Taiwan what difference does it make? The chines already make chips and other stuff I see no difference really? Why doesnt the west make there own chip factory? Other then just messing with the chinese I see no reason to take that island. Look at what the jews do to the Palestinians or the other fuckdd up shit that happens I see no problem in china taking Taiwan.

>>64374711
>>64374725
>>64374733
Hello to you definitely 3 different people.

>>64374469
>As signed allies we've learned US assurances mean very little under this regime.
Damn, which allies of the US did Russia Invade?

Even though this is a china shill thread Americans never really actually explain how they'd win. Just imagine if America took Russian levels of casualties. The American people would revolt and it would be even more insane then it already is. I don't think the west can stomach a prolonged conflict with heavy casualties like the Chinese can.

If let's say China wins, in 50+ years the Chinese people also won't be able to stomach those type of losses in a conflict. I think there's a high chance that Trump just sells Taiwan to Xi.

>>64374767
They're doing cyber/glowie/drone attacks in Europe and Trump doesn't seem to care or take a strong enough stance. JD Vance even said how much he hated NATO and the EU in those signal leaks.

>>64374188
i dont think china is nearly as obsessed with outright conquest as russia is. putin especially is like a perfect storm of wanting to recreate some kind of modern russian empire, and also very stubborn and arrogant, and also he's being lied to by his officials about how well things are going. there's this one video that suggests he believed he had created a "color revolution" in ukraine (hence why FSB shills keep repeating that CIA did one of those in ukraine) and thus he really thought ukraine would go down without a real fight, and now he's in over his head.

china still wants to control the areas around it but imo their MO is a lot more patient. i think if they did commit to military action, it'd be a massive blockade and no-fly-zone everywhere around taiwan until they gave china all the stuff they wanted. and then it could escalate from there. who knows

>>64374711
Lmao. Attacking US soil is a great way to resolve the internal political conflicts America currently has.

Someone drove a flying bus into a building, twice, and we collectively turned into screeching retards that wanted to glass anyone marginally related to the attackers. We didn’t even hit the right country.

Way to learn nothing from WWII’s Japan.

>>64372676 (OP)
>vidyachild making vidya references

>>64374891
>Lmao. Attacking US soil is a great way to resolve the internal political conflicts America currently has.
>
>Someone drove a flying bus into a building, twice, and we collectively turned into screeching retards that wanted to glass anyone marginally related to the attackers. We didn’t even hit the right country.
>
>Way to learn nothing from WWII’s Japan.


This is why I'm sure that China is planning on how to attack Taiwan very meticulously. They're already studying D-Day back to front, they would clueless not to learn from Pearl Habor or 9/11.

>>64374607
Isn't this one of the police compititions that GSG9 used to show up and kick everybody's ass at?
NYPD doesn't tend to do a lot of our war fighting anyway.

>>64374891
You mean the US spent six trillion and failed in all it's objectives? GWot was a phenomenal distraction in hindsight. Russia and China were left unchecked while the US was bombing caves in Afghanistan.

>>64374925
Where exactly were Russia and China in Syria or Iran?

>>64374929
What? When did I say they were there? I meant their own goals were pursued with little pushback, like Crimea.

>>64374932
the GWOT was and still is disastrous but American CIA glowies have always known that is where the money is and America controls the middle east now. The US also just booted Russia out of Armenia, Moldova, and Azerbaijan. Trump is a slick bastard at the end of the day. Iran is the last domino piece.

>>64372972
Over five times as many chinks died, we could’ve won that war, but there wasn’t any political will to continue to throw bodies at the problem, China doesn’t have to worry about things like public perception, so they can throw infinite with human waves of malnourished farmers until Pyongyang was captured

>>64373805
I'm chink and I know what the idiom means. It is mistranslated the connotation is the same.
>WATERLOGGEED
>Like "waterlogged meat" sold in markets to increase weight
>It is the product of embezzlement and corruption, claimed to do x capability but it can't do shit
May you rest in piss Beijingite.

>>64372676 (OP)
>US
>interfering on behalf of taiwan
>with donnie in charge
lol. lmao.
>inb4 trump says
into the garbage pile

US in its current incarnation is isolationist and retreating from both europe and asia. It will not change for a long time as the isolationist sentiment that propellered the reality TV star to power is not going anywhere even after he eats one big mac too many. Sure they might sell some weapons here and there for a premium but that is absolutely it

>inb4 iran bombing
oh wow. Such bravery. Israel cleared the air space of any threats and made it 100% risk free. Even then trump called putin to warn about the warning who, of course, turned around and warned iranians. Post op debrief showed that the bombs took them back maybe a couple of months and response was to shoot the messenger


So the real question is how effective Taiwan is in its defense. Since their position and terrain is grossly in the favor of the defender

>>64372676 (OP)
>can’t even defeat Russia
>think they will defeat a country 10x bigger and with 100x more powerful industry
The US is pretty good at bombing cave hideouts of sandniggas in flip flops with soviet era aks, even if it costs trillions of dollars and has bankrupted them, but anything other than that is beyond their scope of operations

>>64374891
I doubt it iss liberty happened usa did nothing
Levin affair happened nothing
911 happened nothing.
Epstein list gizzel is going to get a person
Some israeli art students dance cos 911 happened what did usa do? Nothing

>>64372676 (OP)
American morale and will to fight would dissolve after taking even modest casualties.

>>64375114
>can't even defeat puccia
America still hasn't even bothered to show up to that dumb war of theirs

>>64372974
Xi's wolf wankers have hyped up the Korean war in the last 10 years because its the only thing China has that comes close to gloating over the US, so long as you ignore that they sacrificed taking Taiwan for a troublesome hermit kingdom

>>64375130
That only applies to babysitting browns and the bar for that was super fucking low, like losing a whole squad would have been a fiasco, if you sink a Naval ship and kill 300 sailors in a conventional war as China you kick the hornet's nest.

>>64375142
>>64375130
Maybe at the start but just imagine if a Democrat takes office. You'd have the entire online right saying how the war is a mistake and that said leader is too weak etc. America has exported its wars to other countries because they dont have the will to fight.

>>64373053
You deployed your national guard to Iraq and Afghanistan. Wtf do you mean not front line.

>>64373755
As soon as US hegemony drops, we are invading Belgium. Fuck the 1830 london treaty.

t. Dutch

>>64372676 (OP)
Depends on the diplomatic situation. Will China deescalate other disputes before hand? Will the US self-isolate itself with Trump or a similar retard? How far will China be able to go with salami tactics before facing hard resistance?

Realistically, Taiwan is incredibly fragile economically. The PLAN may not be able to beat the entire USN, but they don't need to. They just need to be close enough to whatever the US has in the western Pacific to delay intervention until Taiwan agrees to a 1997 Hong Kong-esque situation.

>>64375173
As soon as US hegemony drops, we are inviting the Dutch. Fuck the 1830 london treaty.

t.Flemish

>>64374439
>many that the government actually had to step in
Like all western governments did in the early 1900s? Did you even watch lady and the tramp. Dog catcher was a job till the 50s. Only then did we get strays under control.

>>64375158
No different than now. Political polarization will be a problem for a whole with the party out of power going fifth column at times.

>>64375120
I can't tell if this is IESLB or IUSB.

>>64375261
You didnt answer the question? How is talking about those things being under 18?


Also 911 has links to Saudis yet nothing happen to them.

I am only trying to prove all of it is just propaganda and there really no need for war yet we will go cos it means money for big corporations. Once the money is made they will just leave the country and a lot of people will suffer.


If you end up being drafted and going you might come back with disabilities or other problems.

>>64372676 (OP)
>>64372676 (OP)
The US cucking out because it refused to SPEND the money required to have a weapons manufacturing base that can handle such a war for an extended period.

Just look at our shipbuilding industry. Don't forget it has massive tariffs protecting it - the Jones act - but that means those companies are dogshit, they don't invest in new tech and all the workers are lazy union workers.

Now the inverse you have Japan which instead of tariffs it uses massive supply chain and final input subsides to induce excess production same with China.

>>64375445
Implessive

It depends on when it happens. Would be cool to see moon base fighting.

>6'2 beef fed Marine

How does this stop bullets?

>>64375141
In their defense, they are the closest thing anyone has had in modern times to winning a conventional war against the US.

>>64375445
Well the rich get richer and the poor come back without arms and legs

War sucks

>>64375468
China at best can assert themselves as a regional power. No one is letting China influence them outside of African dictatorships that sold out their countries for Chinese money that will not be good allies.

>>64375416
>You didnt answer the question?
Neither IESLB nor IUSB is worth the effort of parsing, much less attempting to "respond" to. The only response it warrants is to call it out.

>>64375179
>>64372676 (OP)
I dont understand the story with taiwan. I thought they have to unify with china in 2042 like how hong Kong had to unify with china again or am I wrong?

>>64375416
>>64375489
Oh they’re definitely IESLB. Those types can’t fathom a country without mandatory military service. Jerking off about an inevitable draft is a dead giveaway.

>>64375179
I think Taiwan is in a difficult spot where their main shield (chip manufacturing) is becoming less relevant. They have a lot of parallels, just a decade earlier in the cycle, with the Saudi’s. Who are now desperately searching for a new guard dog after America lost its dependency on oil. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Taiwan reaching out to make stronger ties to India, Korea, and/or Japan.

I don’t doubt China could successfully invade a neighboring country amidst American isolationism. But the real question is whether they can afford the cost, and if there was any non-cultural net benefit by the end.

Every nation HATES Chinese fishing boats. I could see unflagged drones taking out the entire global fleet within a year of the conflict; completely separate from the invasion.

>>64374668
This I did not know. And this isn’t speculation?

>>64374480
>You can't wipe out a third of China and then go
>>uhhhhhh well technically it was a conventional strike
They shouldn't of put 600m people in a flood basin. So who really killed them? The bomb, or the CCP playing god?

Peaceful reunification. What's in it for Taiwan? You can look at Shenzhen and say "Yeah, the gulag mass slaughter boomercon fantasy is just that".

>>64375676
>blows up Hoover dam
>30m Americans left without water or power in the desert

Is this really a game you think you can win? It's not even the biggest dam in the US. Keep huffing that Hindutva-tier peasant brain copium.

>>64372676 (OP)
would taiwanese even want to fight though
I think will be like whatever man

>>64375632
Yeah in case you haven't been paying attention the Chinese have been doing this since the CCP took over.
Siberia is also a possibility. If Russia's government capitulates too long you might get to see the Chinese roll tanks into their neighbor's back yard to "maintain and restore order."

>>64375676
fucking kek

>>64372676 (OP)
We are just going to run the exact same playbook we have ran since the Civil War when fighting an import dependent country, which is to put in a maritime blockade and wait. You can cut the SLOC at several places well outside their A2D2 umbrella so they have to either give up or sortie out for a battle of Midway reenactment

>>64375697
>China gets to watch their missiles get intercepted before the minutemen light up and a few Chinese cities go without oxygen

>>64375596
The KMT were corrupt and delusional retards that stumbled into a Golden Goose if semiconductor production.

>>64375716
Yup. How long can China go without imports? China's economy is just as bad as Japan's economy is right now and a massive recession is only weeks away if the USN closes off the Strait of Malacca and the Panama Canal.

>>64374532
I like how immediately after this video was released, Trump visited a CVN, picked a new CNO, and somehow, mysteriously, the basically canceled FA-XX Tomcat Turborapist Jr is now greenlit.

I think you might have fucked yourself

>>64375718
You really think you can blow up the 3GD without retaliation, don't you? The US has equally soft targets that whose targeting would kill civilians by the millions.

>>64375734
The USA has the capacity to shoot down Chinese ICBMs and the Chinese do not. Barring an event where the Chinese decide to let the chickens fly, which is very unlikely, an ICBM exchange is going to go very badly for the Chinese.

>>64375772
For now, and there are a lot of asterixes about how large of a strike it can intercept.

>>64373109
>overslept
>disobeyed orders
>got killed because of it

Perhaps even roflmao my friend.

>>64375822
Theres a lot of asterisks to what the chinese can launch too, just as corrupt as russia but with less transparency.

>>64373210
>Geneva convention

More like Geneva Suggestion, amirite boys? Haha death to all communists.

>>64375130
A couple of blackwater mercs were necked and in turn falluja was wrecked.

>>64372676 (OP)
Turns out Drop Shippers were the real Fifth Column all along and that they mailed the bomb.

>>64375697
Oh no, a tenth of the US population (and arguably among the worst part) is gone in exchange for the better half of China's. I dunno it sounds like a fair deal to me

>>64375865
It's just one target in a strike plan that includes dozens to hundreds of others. The point is, epic chungus bacon "feed me Three Gorges Dam" strike plans hinge on the delusional belief that the Chinese cannot hit back because "le slave labor chinkshit will fail because it just will" posted from a device whose most important and lowest margin components are made in China.

It won't decapitate China. Just ensure a similar proportion of Americans are slaughtered. That's war, but don't cry to me when you eat Bomber Harris's words of warning about childish delusions.

>>64375130
Every single male in China is the sole heir to their family's future, you think they're going to be happy to die for their slavers?

What I find funny is wumao faggots like >>64375907 think because China can fight back that the US should just give up the pacific. Instead Americans can be fine going through hard times if it means there enemies are decimated in exchange.

>>64372690
US will be most untouched thoug, China can't touch in meaningfully, nukes won't be used because the US won't try to invade China, just deter it from taking Taiwan.

>>64373175
Presuming this isn't bait it's a doctrine thing. US doctrine very openly keeps it's soldiers away from harm's way. Chinese doctrine is ???? but they've historically not had a good track record

>>64373729
Anon, that news article was written by a retarded journo who can't into translation. "Filled with water" is a Chinaman expression for not being to spec. The source is pretty damning to the PLA missile corp but they aren't literally skimping on fuels.

>>64375468
>winning
There isn't a single meaningful metric where it can be considered a chinese victory or even make them look good, they were fighting a war in their backyard with the advantage of interior lines and still failed to accomplish their main objective of destroying South Korea while suffering lopsided casulaties, this is from a time when the airpower advantage wouldn't be as impactful since the technology was still somewhat primitive, specially ISR was lacking.

>>64373175
If China is so strong why are they in a stalemate against India?

>>64375697
When the China gets flooded, Chinese people will know who's to blame. Their imperialist government that thought they could tame the world's water.

>>64375697
>hoover dam
kek oh nooooo im sure theres no backups or defenses to chinkshit missiles

>>64372676 (OP)
>Immediately takes out all of the Chinks' naval and air and anti-air assets and bases and production facilities with missiles
>Wipes the floor with their 'civilian' 'fishing' fleet
>Forms a blockade around their seas along with the Japanese and Korean and Taiwanese (plus which ever regional ally that want to join) fleet
>Bombs their central censorship bureau
>Sits back and waits for their unconditional surrender (either that or starvation and cannibalism)
And if they are still stubborn
>Bombs the most upstream dams of the rivers that flow into the 3 gorges dam during peak flood season
>Breaks them into many smaller states with different scripts for their dialects/languages that are forbidden from ever forming into a single entity or even enter economic alliance with each other ever again

>>64376137
>imagine a world with 2 billion less chinese people
:) its an environmentalists wet dream

We must do more to enable our warfighters to counter Chinese influence in the information space. It is unacceptable that the pentagon does not have direct access to delete pro-Chinese posts.

>>64376146
Alternatively, you could bait them into a land war with the jeets after bombing their air fleet. 2 birds, 1 stone.

>>64376165
>half the human population
>all the worst parts of it
>ww1 war brains with actual blood feuds
This makes me moist

>>64372676 (OP)
>How will the war between the China and US over Taiwan look like?

Its going to be a lot of BEEP BEEP BOOP BOOP and "vampire! vampire!, 13 miles, 74 degrees, 2000 knots". 1 month into the war, the US will demand that Europe hands over all F-35s and all patriots and all amraams and just about every weapon system that is used by the US armed forces, all to offset a bigger than expected missile and airframe consumption. Europe will have to do with euroshit budget weapon systems.

>>64376255
Is this before or after china retard yolos at the island and failed to gain a foothold?

POV: you are in a US military building

>>64376321
>chinkcel malding that the consensus is the day of the egg fried rice across the entirety of his race

>>64376343

>I did it sir, I imitated /pol/ language to make credible looking extremist content, while stressing that the consensus aligns with US foreign policy goals

>Well done private Pedro, you may have extra lunch entree today despite your failed PT test

Not only does China mock the US .mil for being fat, the newly appointed “secretary of war” told the US military it was fat and to get its shit together.

>>64372676 (OP)
As others have said, China imports food and fuel. You just blockade them and force them to use less efficient land routes to import both. AD assets are focused near the coast so bombing rural rail/power infrastructure and disabling their freight network would actually not be too difficult. Pipelines also trivial to bomb and disable, and unlike in Ukraine there's basically no reason for us not to do it. By contrast, the US is capable of independence in both categories and China doesn't have the fleet not projection capability to deny such imports to us in the first place. US imports from China are mostly non-essential consumer goods anyway so it's not like we're losing out on much in this scenario. Electronics might be a bit more of a complicated story but in anything resembling this scenario you'd almost certainly see the Defense Production Act being invoked to fast track the construction of the semiconductor foundries currently being built along with more being authorized. There is a reason China hasn't actually done this, even after relative weakness was shown in the initial (like first month) reaction to the invasion of Ukraine.

>>64376393
Seethe and cope bugboi, start posting your his slop so we can laugh at how mutted all han are

>>64375130
Probably be like ukraine Taiwanese chinese will probably be sent to die while usa watches on

>>64375130
COPE AND SEETHE WUMAO

The U.S. military operates within a democratic system that includes civilian oversight, an independent judiciary, and mechanisms for accountability, such as congressional hearings, investigative journalism, and international treaties like the Geneva Conventions. While the U.S. military has faced criticism for human rights violations (e.g., Abu Ghraib, drone strikes), these incidents are typically subject to public scrutiny, legal proceedings, and internal review.
In contrast, the Chinese military operates under the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), which does not allow for independent oversight or a free press. The PLA has been implicated in human rights concerns, especially regarding its role in enforcing policies in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Hong Kong, where international observers and human rights groups have documented mass surveillance, detention camps, and suppression of dissent. The Chinese government tightly controls information, limiting transparency and denying many allegations without independent investigation.

COPE AND SEETHE WUMAO

COPE AND SEETHE WUMAO

COPE AND SEETHE WUMAO

>>64375676
It's their own fault for not getting out of the way of the water. Possibly due to laziness.

>>64372676 (OP)
Retreat and realist copes about preventing escalation and The Bomb.

>>64374711
>>64374725
>>64374733

>>64372676 (OP)
Unironic hilarity if TSMC gets scuttled/destroyed by chinks.
Could you imagine a decade where processing power doesn't increase? No more shit optimization, suddenly programmers would have to treat every clock cycle like a gift from God instead of shoving 16 cores into a smartphone for Android to still lag. Your PC that you build for scalper prices during Covid would still be relevant into the 2030s by the sheer virtue of still being able to power on.

>>64376663
There's a plant in Arizona the island chinks just don't want to lose strategic interest in the country and throw a fit every time the US offers to take more production on.

>>64375772
>capacity
You mean they can intercept 20% of them on a good day?

>>64376699
Where'd this number come from? Whatever your point is China is worse off and the USA has a lot of ICBMs.

>>64372692
This is probably closer to the truth.

>>64376699
If you berieve ping pong lies lmao

>>64376704
It's how many ICBMs the USA can reliably shoot down on a good days exchange with Russia you dumb nog. That's also assuming that all of their defenses are active throughout.

it wont. everything china threatens and boasts about they do to appease their own people.

>>64376708
Go home China bot

>>64376715
So, china with like 20% the launchable numbers would be a cakewalk

>>64376722
Blow me ling ling, I'll give you your daily 50 cents for it

>>64376663
Computers are already good enough. The only thing driving consumption is shitty AAA titles.

Also. Moore’s Law is starting to die of natural causes.
https://cap.csail.mit.edu/death-moores-law-what-it-means-and-what-might-fill-gap-going-forward

The world would get along just fine with iPhone 12s instead of iPhone 17s. But the blame and nerd rage directed at the CCP would be delicious.

>>64376725
>>64376738
Read a book, chong

Funny how west taiwan lost it over a movie prop.

>>64376464
Eglin slop: the post

>>64376746
No really, think about it chang. If you blew me twice a day, you'd double your daily salary.

>>64375190
>you guys have a dog problem
>oh actually, nevermind, actually you solved it over a hundred years ago, sorry Mr West
lol maybe you guys can work on that open defecation problem you have next

>>64373852
Cheap Chink shit is why I cancelled my Amazon prime. Search literally any product and the results are absolutely infested with cheap, shitty, chinese knock offs of existing brands.

Amazon could solve like 90% of it's problems by just making listing the sellers country of origin mandatory. And the world in general would be massively improved if the great firewall actually kept you people contained.

>>64376752
>ping pong tries to make a joke

>>64376769
>>64376751
>hapa mutt mad as hell

>>64376762
Amazon already asks sellers to list country of origin on there products. However, they won't implement a filter for it on customer search.

>>64374708
>The PLA extensively shelled the island during the First and Second Taiwan Strait crises in 1954–1955 and 1958 respectively.

>In 1954, the United States considered responding by using nuclear weapons against the PRC

>>64373681
They already have a place for rural retards, sent em to the Himalayas to farm aura because rice was too difficult aparently

>>64376746
China is like a gimped USSR, WW4 would be European and American survivors fighting over resources and China no longer existing.

>Muh nooks
China can't stop US ICBMs, the US should be able to knock out some. The US operates more nukes. These odds aren't good for changbros

>>64376789
They do ask but it's also not mandatory. Most companies, if they're in the US or South America or Europe do list their country. But like 95% of the time the cheap chinese knock offs will just leave the field blank.

There are add ons that somewhat work as filters, but they're not great.

>>64376751
Hello r*ddit.

>>64376824
Yes, you can leave the field blank if you create new items using there bulk file upload, but if you try via api call it the county of origin field is mandatory.

>>64373209
>weak degenerate americans will retreat after we destroy Pearl Harbour.

>>64374767
Ukraine.

>>64373747
>Taiwan gets shelled to shit
No way. Xi pinping wants it intact. China wants the tsmc fabs and all the other industry.

>>64375114
>US reluctantly sending Cold War surplus to Ukraine has put on stalemate "Second Army in the World" for more than 3 years.

>>64376893
lmfao

>>64373209
Yea, then an EMP will knock out all electronics, the hypersanics will kill the CSGs, and after a small nuclear exchange we'll all die in nuclear winter. Right, chang?

>>64375416
Hey chinksect, we openly kill yor associates and allies.
What now?

>>64376911
Yes, and all of you always find out the hard way what it means to mess with US.
>>518474753

>>64376914
You've not left your mother's basement in like two weeks dude.

>>64376926
Weird, just today I had to go out of the office to pick some books for a project. Yesterday I had a meeting with some friends.
Anyway, even as we speak new footage of antiwestern elements killed by US intel and weaponry is being uploaded at 4chan. What was your last achievement? A retarded raghead jeet airforce defeating an even more retarded curry jeet airforce?

>>64375590
You're wrong.

>>64375190
Now mutt frankenstein formula babies use dogs as replacement children because the jews want them to die out and promote the pet industry. it is like a transgender type of deal, but instead of pretending to be opposite gender, american pretends that their sacred cows <<<-- I mean DOGS are actually children. kek..

>>64372676 (OP)
Taiwan will probably be burned to the ground by the end of it, with significant strikes on Guam, Japan, the Phillipines and South Korea before the end of the war. US largely untouched except for maybe a token missile attack or something for the war news, China will no longer exist as an independent polity and whatever is left of the Chinese will become the new permanently-displaced Gypsies of the modern era. That's pretty much it.

>>64372690
In what world do you live that China has the capability to attack the US in any meaningful way?
>inb4 but duh economy
Its WW3, you mouthbreathing troglodyte. That means infinite blank checks for the West until after the war, leveraged against future production and value created by the victors. Its going to suck to live in the post-war world for a good 20 years, but that's true of every war.

>>64375590
you're wrong. Taiwan is an independent country. in fact it is the last remnant of pre communist China.

>>64373175
>China
>Being anything other than subhuman shit-eating bug people who lose every single war they've ever fought and inevitably submit to every conquering power that comes along in their entire history of existence

Funny, Chang.

>>64377707
>no, you should eat dogs like us!

>>64377707
oh i see, this is some bizarre new line of chink strongk the wect weak chest thumping
as per usual, the chinks are attempting to do what america already does and suck at it, so you cry about the gap, i'd tell you to try having children but that would require a woman to let you touch her, and we all know that isn't happening any time soon

>>64375835
In Canada, they call it the Checklist, and consider it Canada's greatest contribution to human civilization.

>>64377909
Are you gonna move back into your parents house and get a dog when your 4 years of countering China in cyberspace is up?

>>64378689
I dunno, what are your housing prospects in the next 4 years that isn't a tofu dreg, a hostel bunk, or a straight up cage?

>>64374188
>the US just gives up the island chain strategy and control of pacific trade (where the highest amount of $ moves in the entire world)
>the US does this after every foreign policy decision in the past decade has been about the pacific pivot
>the US does this after carefully cultivating every pacific ally specifically for this purpose
No.

>>64372690

So basically the plot of Fallout?

>>64377909
they're sending armies of dudes out to africa and stuff it's actually becoming a problem

>>64377722
>In what world do you live that China has the capability to attack the US in any meaningful way?

bruh

>>64378778
> what are your housing prospects in the next 4 years that isn't a tofu dreg, a hostel bunk, or a straight up cage?

Meanwhile in USA military housing

>>64377707
>Stupid westerners, feeling attachment to things
Get the fuck outta here bugman

>>64378873
>CHINA GONNA NOOOOOOOK
Okay. Do it. See what its like to be the only group of people responsible for a nuclear war. Not a single Chinese person would survive this century and whatever city they bowl over with it will just go down with Pearl Harbor and 9/11 on the list of things mouth-breathing idiots from the third world have done right before having their nations dismantled. It still won't win the chinks the war, it'll only give the DoD an infinite pass to spend as much money as they want killing the Chinese forever and give America the moral high ground on all future conflicts until that task is done.

>>64378909
>a single instance of a plumbing issue within on-base facilities
Oh the horror! The horror!

I think the funnest parts of posts about muh west falling apart is that China absolutely has the same problems or worse, but much like Europe and the US believing we were losing the Cold War pretty much all the way through until the Soviets imploded, the extreme censorship of dictatorships distorts this. Not only does it hide it from us, it hides it from them, as well, and as a result corruption is basically impossible to root out until it makes itself painfully obvious. It's like a retarded hydra, one retard is sacked for flying too close to the sun, another retard better at hiding it takes their place. Maybe the Chinese can get over it and not end up completely Russia-ed, but I doubt it, at least not in the next two decades. Anyone sane despises the fucking press, journos are the scum of the earth and I would like to hang them as Christmas ornaments, but the first step to fixing stuff is knowing it's fucked in the first place.

>>64378968
Agreed. China Stronk posters will post infrastructure issues in the West, not realizing that the only reason they get reported in the first place is because they're out of the norm. Meanwhile escalators eating people or public buildings being revealed to be held together by hopes and dreams is so common in China that it barely registers to them as a problem. It appears to be the same way they view corruption at home vs abroad as well, which would be funny if they weren't so frustratingly close to realizing the obvious.

>>64378968
>>64378978
Your people are weak. They have been destroyed already in the inside. They have no will to fight. We don't need to fight, your greed and fatness has consumed you. We will walk into Taiwan.

>>64378982
Sure, sure, whatever you say man. You'll take it just like Russia took Ukraine, right?

>>64378986
Putin was weak and acted too fast. He thought the west was nothing after 2014. Now we corner your markets, take your talent, infect your elections, and poison all discourse around your life. What will America do near an election? Trump is a selfish man and he will look the other way when he is securing power for his next term. Chaos is what we want.

>>64378986
Stop feeding the LARPer, anon. Have some standards in the bait you take, at least.

>>64378997
No. If I wanna feed the snapping turtle my popcorn, I'm gonna do it.

>>64378932

I didn't say they would win stupid

>>64375261
>>64372676 (OP)
No more bankers wars I am tried annons I want out.

>>64376762
The Chinese knockoffs are amazon solving its problems. (financial problems)
They make more money in advertising than actually selling things now.
The advertising revenue? Selling data to merchants on popular products and letting them pay to put up their knockoffs in front of the original product.

Of course, this is them cannibalizing their brand for shorterm gain, but you don’t have to explicitly say that to shareholders on the quarterly report.

>>64378778
That's a Hong Kong thing lol

>>64373175
>equivalent
in some fields, maybe
>superior
lol

>>64375632
Basically Taiwan is the linchpin in the first island chain and they have a de jure claim to it that every country in the world recognizes officially (one China policy).

Once they break that containment their goal will be to achieve local dominance in the near-abroad and a sort of return to a China centric system in East Asia then the Indo-Pacific more broadly and cultivate a group of allies and client states similar to what China had from like ~300bc until the Sengoku (when Japan emerged as a challenger for Asian hegemony, and was then joined by Russia in the late 17th century). Particularly important is securing the straits of Malacca because even with a northern sea route emerging, the straits of Malacca will still be the best route for middle eastern oil*

*Chinese oil demand will likely peak in 2027 and global demand will peak by 2030, driven by alternative energy sources becoming economically competitive and demographic trends but oil will remain irreplaceable for military and long distance transportation unless and until batteries have higher energy density than gasoline.

>>64379566
They also genuinely don't give a shit about it. Amazon Web Services is so vastly more profitable that the market place is barely a blip on the radar. The entire western world's online presence basically runs through AWS' office in Seattle.