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Anonymous No.64379790 >>64379800 >>64379806 >>64379821 >>64379865 >>64379937 >>64379954 >>64380093 >>64380293 >>64380332 >>64380346 >>64380876 >>64380919 >>64380976 >>64381211 >>64381221 >>64381267 >>64381268 >>64381406 >>64383352 >>64383438 >>64384135 >>64385247 >>64385249 >>64387494 >>64387891 >>64388804 >>64388873
but why?
Anonymous No.64379800 >>64379809 >>64379838
>>64379790 (OP)
Why are they low on funds? Might have something to do with the invasion they've sunk themselves into.
Anonymous No.64379806 >>64380062
>>64379790 (OP)
war is going banan
Anonymous No.64379809 >>64379952 >>64380044 >>64380111 >>64380293 >>64380315 >>64380499
>>64379800
But Russia’s economy is literally booming
Anonymous No.64379821 >>64379832 >>64383190
>>64379790 (OP)
Huh? I thought that the oinkssian economy was booming according to /pol/, what happened?
Anonymous No.64379822 >>64383448
the russia has realized that aircrafts and ships are no longer necessary in the age of hypersonics and the rooster will crow
Anonymous No.64379830 >>64379839 >>64379850 >>64379945 >>64380100 >>64380259 >>64380396 >>64380459 >>64380634 >>64380886 >>64382966 >>64383195 >>64383799 >>64384036 >>64384296 >>64384484 >>64385289 >>64387213 >>64387271
I wouldn't worry about it comrade
...or else.
Anonymous No.64379832 >>64379964 >>64381255
>>64379821
As I say every time they bring that up. If you have $1,000,000 and get $1,000 per day and something happens and you're now $100,000,000 in debt but you get $2,000 per day now, you can literally say that you're 100% better off income wise now. You can claim you're better off than you were before. But you're still $100,000,000 in debt. So it is meaningless. They don't understand this. Which is why they bring up 'GDP growth is higher than X' well duh, if you've been hit for hundreds of billions and introduce draconian economic laws then you can make number go up.

They also forget the IMF decides what your GDP growth is and is based on the statistics that are available (or, usually, provided by the country in question) meaning what Russia hands over to the IMF doesn't mean it is accurate. IMF also says that PPP is fucking retarded but they go to PPP GDP cope now because they're like 4th strongest in PPP.
Anonymous No.64379838 >>64380722
>>64379800
>Why are they low on funds?
they were intending to pay for running expenses with gasoline sales, now they were forced to reverse both the flow of gasoline and the cash, instead of exporting to asia they're now importing from asia
Anonymous No.64379839 >>64379945
>>64379830
AN2 as a monoplane? Pig disgusting.
Anonymous No.64379850 >>64379945
>>64379830
Good fucking lord what have they done to Annichka?!
Anonymous No.64379857 >>64380088
Aircrafts and ships are useless in a land war.
Anonymous No.64379865
>>64379790 (OP)
It's almost as it they have a war economy, their being sanctioned and their primary export is being attacked.
When any retard says sanctions do nothing try to remind them they take years to take full effect but can be devastating, there is a very good reason Iran despite being an oil rich nation is still flying F-14s brought in the 1970s.
Anonymous No.64379893 >>64379900 >>64379916 >>64379965 >>64381578 >>64381585 >>64384150 >>64384333
When will we start to see civilian airflight crashes? I thought we would have had a few already by the end of 2025. Whenever it happens, it will be a very clear indicator everything is crumbling.
Anonymous No.64379900
>>64379893
There is no tourism and their population is taking out loans to buy bread so I don't think they will be putting a heap of hours on airliners.
Anonymous No.64379914 >>64380340
>have a horrendous airforce and navy
>cut the budget to them even more
Kek
Anonymous No.64379916
>>64379893
>will we start to see civilian airflight crashes? I
there have been lots of forced landings, the russians got some plane stuck middle of siberia rotting right now
Anonymous No.64379937 >>64384758
>>64379790 (OP)
But...the gdp...the ppp!
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64379945 >>64379969 >>64380070
>>64379830
>>64379839
>>64379850
TOTAL EXTERMINATION ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, NOT ONLY THEIR EXISTANCE MUST BE DESTROYED BUT EVERY BOOK AND MONUMENT WITH THEIR NAME MUST BE DESTROYED THE VERY MEMORY OF THEIR EXISTANCE WIPED OUT SO THEY SUFFER THE THRICE DEATH OF LIFE, INSCRIPTION AND THE VERY MEMORY OF THEM BY THE COLLECTIVE MIND OF HUMANITY IT ONLY HAS ONE WING HOW DOES IT HOVER IN A HEAD WIND HOW DOWS IT STOL HOW DARE THEY IT LOOKS LIKE A METAL BOX WITH A SLAVIC NEEDLE COCK ON THE END OF IT THE COWARDS, THE FOOLS!

*Enraged Khornate noises*
Anonymous No.64379952 >>64379964 >>64379972 >>64380560
>>64379809
Imagine believing that unironically. The implications that come with it for anon irl.
Anonymous No.64379954 >>64379968
>>64379790 (OP)
>If the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain.
>There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
t. Military Command For Dummies
Anonymous No.64379964
>>64379832
To be totally fair, the Russian domestic industrial repair sector has never had such high demand
>>64379952
Literally anon. Literally.
Anonymous No.64379965 >>64383821 >>64384622
>>64379893
commercial aircraft have like 100x the safety factory anything else does. Even in shithole countries they buy from the same manufacturers that are governed by 1st world regulations. I'd kind of expect them to fail last even if 90% of the maintenance crew is sent to the donbass.
Anonymous No.64379968 >>64380008 >>64380951
>>64379954
>There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.
Vietnam several times & Afghanistan several times, if you can't achieve military victory by force simply lasting long enough the other guy gives up is a valid stratergy.
Anonymous No.64379969 >>64379979 >>64379981 >>64380002 >>64380425
>>64379945
#BalkanizeRussia
Anonymous No.64379972
>>64379952
But total refinery death means the economy is literally going boom
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64379979
>>64379969
>#LindseyGrahamForCzar
Anonymous No.64379981 >>64379995 >>64380001
>>64379969
St Petersburg should be a satelite of Finland
Anonymous No.64379995 >>64380001 >>64380020 >>64380522
>>64379981
Pietari is Finland, just as Haishenwai is Korean.
Anonymous No.64380001 >>64380017 >>64380020
>>64379981
>>64379995
Moscow should remain a city state under their own control as a reminder of the dangers of corruption to the rest of the world.
Anonymous No.64380002
>>64379969
Seriously, where do I sign up to make this happen?
Anonymous No.64380008 >>64380057 >>64380951 >>64380993
>>64379968
I think he's comparing against the alternate universe where you didn't have to fight somebody and invested the money in infrastructure. The value of defending against foreign conquest is obviously infinity if you're forced to do it.
If Putin acquires all of Ukraine and Europe goes back to placating him maybe the 2-week SMO could actually turn a profit eventually? But a general rule of economics is that a little money invested in economically productive stuff now is worth more than a lot of money later. And bending your whole economy to put steel and bodies in the mud is the opposite of economically productive.
Anonymous No.64380017 >>64380025 >>64380057
>>64380001
Why not give moscow a wall like the one they built in Berlin :) ?
Anonymous No.64380020 >>64380057 >>64386455
>>64379995
>Haishenwai
>Not Haesamwi
>Self reports for reeducation session

>>64380001
Just had over Moscow and the areas between them to Belorussia, Luka's peel and chill leadership style suits them and the tubers must grow.
Anonymous No.64380025
>>64380017
This, as long as the wall is actually one made of napalm
Anonymous No.64380040
money
Anonymous No.64380044
>>64379809
Yes, it's literally making booming noises. Ka-booming noises, even.
Anonymous No.64380057 >>64380122
>>64380008
Oh yeah, for the attacker the faster it's over the better, the ideal annexation bypasses the enemy military and just replaces the government.
As for turning a profit if it had of been a 2 week SMO I think the extra gas fields as asian demand is increasing would be very worth it but as it stands it'll be the death of Russia if they continue and the death of Putin if they stop so Russia is going to die.

>>64380017
I'm up for that but we will need to maintain it because if they must then it'll crumble just like Russia and the USSR before it.

>>64380020
Nah, Luka should be awarded Marshal of the Russian Federation and then dragged of to the Hague to answer for Russia's crimes.
Anonymous No.64380062
>>64379806
Banan was the objective. That's monke's problem, it's not going banan at all.
Anonymous No.64380070 >>64380122
>>64379945
Welcome to being a moderate, Norktard.
Anonymous No.64380088
>>64379857
>obligatory
Anonymous No.64380093 >>64380106 >>64381224 >>64385157 >>64391174
>>64379790 (OP)
For Russia, having a serious blue-water navy was always and always will be a luxury.
I am surprised by the aviation cuts though. I assume that someone in the Kremlin made the executive decision to suspend the Su-57 and Su-75 programs until the end of the war, so that they can focus on Su-34 and Su-35 production.
Anonymous No.64380100
>>64379830
The Mad Max era has truly begun..

>HURRY UP AND SOLDERWELD THE HELISPINNAROONI TO THE FUSSELEGGE YOU SCRITCHY PIDORVATS OR I SWEAR TO DA TSARRY THAT MY COCK WILL GO INTO UR BEAR CAVES FOR THE ENTIRE REMAINDER OF THE SPESSY OPERTAN! NOW TURN THOSE NUTTERS TILL THE WINDING GOES TO THE RIGHT WIND RECTION!!
Anonymous No.64380106 >>64380114 >>64380119 >>64382427
>>64380093
The shipbuilding was never about naval power, with the north west passage opening thanks to climate change Russia was planning to use their expertise in ice breakers to produce cargo ships that can survive some ice.
It's a solid long term economic plan but they can't afford to worry about long term right now.
Anonymous No.64380111 >>64380116
>>64379809
It's booming in the sense that the USA is only not in a recession if you look at companies going insane dumping capital into datacenters in hopes that chatbots will beat the hallucination problem.
these weapons are also basically useless for Russia strategically. Russia's geography has always made the navy (particularly the surface fleet) a cargo cult prestige project that has never been able to functionally challenge western navies aside from some fringe cope theories that never had a chance to be refuted before the surface fleet rusted to practically nothing or was destroyed by $500k spicy speedboats.

The air investments are largely an issue of Russian dependency on imports for their advanced aviation, these are much harder to sanction bust than semiconductors. Without sanctions busting Russia is basically back to 1990s level technology and planes built to such a specification are functionally useless in 2025. Their conventional airforce is currently useless for anything except missile trucking because they can't conduct combined arms operations to effectively SEAD especially now that Ukraine has western provided air defenses. So they're investing everything in drones and paying sign on bonuses for new meat.
Anonymous No.64380114 >>64380126 >>64380133 >>64380186
>>64380106
>The shipbuilding was never about naval power, with the north west passage opening thanks to climate change Russia was planning to use their expertise in ice breakers to produce cargo ships that can survive some ice.
>It's a solid long term economic plan but they can't afford to worry about long term right now.
Even if this is true, I feel like the shipping lane potential of a warmer Arctic has always been grossly overstated. Motherfuckers in Alaska have been hoping and praying for those shipping lanes to mature ever since they became a state.
Anonymous No.64380116
>>64380111
anon, it's a joke about Russia's refineries exploding
Anonymous No.64380119
>>64380106
Yeah this is the caveat to the whole "russia is destined to be a land power" deal. If the arctic actually melts they would have a major reason to maintain a large surface fleet. Absent that there's no reason to have more than a coastguard and boomers.
Anonymous No.64380122
>>64380057
>dragged of to the Hague to answer for Russia's crimes.
No, it undermines the deterrent purpose of the ICC. He has avoided direct participation to avoid that fate, him not joining the war proves that the system has some value. Putting him on trial is counter productive as it removes the incentive for moderately competent dictators to rein in their more destructive impulses.

>>64380070
I have been a moderate for some time; i am quite certain that by keeping Russia in the war DPRK ammunition supplies result in a net loss of Russian lives and long term they create a almost irreversible cycle of dependence that will cripple them as a culture for at least a generation. That does not even mention the strategically suicidal condition of being a client state of Pyongyang.

The US didn't arm Iran or Iraq because it wanted to help either, it wanted to harm them both.
Anonymous No.64380126 >>64381616 >>64383336
>>64380114
>Motherfuckers in Alaska have been hoping and praying for those shipping lanes to mature ever since they became a state
It's one of those things everyone can see coming but no one knows how long it'll take. A good comparison is EVs, everyone knows they are the future and eventually nearly every car on the road will be electic but a million factors influence if that'll be in 20 years or 200 years.
Anonymous No.64380130
they dont need aircraft to police and subdue their own people who will riot out of starvation soon. they just need tanks and armored vehicles.
Anonymous No.64380133 >>64380186
>>64380114
the NSR is about half the length of the current suez route between Asia and Europe. They've been waiting for those routes because they just haven't melted enough to be viable yet. Expanded icebreaker fleets would make them viable faster.
Anonymous No.64380186
>>64380114
>>64380133
Funny enough of the three (two really) Northernmost ice free Pacific ports in Asia it isn't Vladivostok that will be getting a direct rail line from china first, it is Wosan.

The only real issue is that Wosan needs to be significantly expanded to handle significant the PRCs transpacific traffic which seems to be happening, ironically this probably means that the PRC might very well quietly be pressuring the USA/RoK to sign a Korean peace deal*

Wosan, Vladivostok and Fukino combined would not be enough, if there was a joint port zone combining Fukino and Wosan into what would effectively be one huge port that might work with enough investment**

**>But Fukino belongs to Russia!
If both the PRC and DPRK decide that it doesn't then it doesn't.
Anonymous No.64380259
>>64379830
Disgusting!
Anonymous No.64380293
>>64379790 (OP)
LAND WAR LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO.

>>64379809
Wew, that one flew over a lot of Anons heads.
Like a comically slow drone homing on a refinery.
Anonymous No.64380315 >>64383975
>>64379809
>Russia’s economy is literally booming
Yes. Quietly exploding.
Anonymous No.64380332 >>64380341 >>64380904 >>64381441 >>64381559
>>64379790 (OP)

>slashing subsidies

Just means they expect private investors to take up the financing.

Which means they expect some sort of shake up in sanction regimes in 2026 (them ending or not being a factor).
Anonymous No.64380340
>>64379914
It's high IQ thinking. If there's no funding to navy and air force, that means they will cease to exist meaning less issues to tackle!
Anonymous No.64380341 >>64380347
>>64380332
>the sanctions will be gone in a few months
Why do ziggers cope like this? It just makes them deny reality which is even worse for their situation.
Anonymous No.64380346
>>64379790 (OP)
Russia's Ukraine ambitions are dependent on its financier China holding up its end of the bargain and China's not doing so great internally.
Anonymous No.64380347
>>64380341
>Why do ziggers cope like this?
They've been utterly mind raped ever since trump turned on them
Anonymous No.64380396 >>64380419 >>64380551 >>64380788 >>64382008 >>64385289
>>64379830
>To adapt the engine to the aircraft, engineers converted it into a single-shaft turboprop. The free turbine was removed, and the gearbox was connected directly to the compressor.
>After modification, the power output dropped from 1,500 to about 900 horsepower β€” a reduction of 40%. Nevertheless, Technoregion believes the new TR-301/117 will outperform the previous version equipped with the Czech M601 engine (720 hp).
Ah, so there it is, the previously used engine is possibly no longer available for them.
Does this mean Russia can no longer produce 40s tech radial engines at a reasonable and economic rate?
Are they still not able to develop a replacement for the An-2 despite attempts going back to the 60s?
Wtf.
Anonymous No.64380408 >>64380418 >>64380419 >>64383274 >>64383999
Yes the Russian army is so weak that President Trump bends the knee and desparately tries to beg for some scraps of the Ukrine after Russia is finished with it. He's a savvy business man and not a cucko ideology driven LBTGQ BLM activist so he's reasonable. Finally stopped pouring American money into the corrupt Ukraine for their warongering. Biden was sitting on the throne in the white house like theoden of Rohan and zelensky whispered war mongerings in his ear like grima snake tongue. But Trump has clear mind finally and realizes what the hour is.
Anonymous No.64380418 >>64380518
>>64380408
>Biden was sitting on the throne in the white house like theoden of Rohan and zelensky whispered war mongerings in his ear like grima snake tongue.
If anything the vatniks are reliable in their deliberate forcing of their alternative view on The Lord of the Rings.
Anonymous No.64380419
>>64380396
The 1,500 HP engine is Ukrainian as is the entire aircraft. They could get modernized versions of the ASh-62 from China or even the Norks but they want a domestic engine so what they are using is inferior to even those.

>>64380408
Yes i agree fellow American from Texas region, should stop of sending money and risk nuclear war and instead secure borders. Also cancel F-35 and spend money to buy Ruble instead of useless fiat US Dollar that is owned by strong China.
Anonymous No.64380425 >>64380447 >>64380463 >>64380474 >>64382348 >>64388209 >>64389057
>>64379969
>choose your warlord state
Anonymous No.64380447
>>64380425
I await the restoration of Ingria, even though Soviet deportations and "Russification" all but destroyed the peoples of the region.
Anonymous No.64380459
>>64379830
>VDV soon to be jumping from flying banan
Anonymous No.64380463 >>64380496 >>64380511 >>64382038
>>64380425
Medvedev could not possibly compete with Lukashanko for control of the rump state mainly because he is a literal retard and whoever made this has a hilarious sense of humor in giving the far east a copy of Taiwan's Flag.

I don't care that he isn't a option, only one man can save Russia:
Anonymous No.64380474 >>64380802
>>64380425
could play a game of Diplomacy on this map...
Anonymous No.64380496 >>64380511
>>64380463
Medvedev is a schizo hoi4 modder who was cursed to trapped in a Russian politicians body
Anonymous No.64380499
>>64379809
This is fine.
Anonymous No.64380511 >>64380537 >>64380546 >>64380650 >>64383736 >>64384700
>>64380496
>>64380463
Speaking of, does /k/ have a general consensus as to Lukashenko's military leadership skills so far?
Anonymous No.64380518 >>64383652
>>64380418
Honestly the the funniest part about Russians being called Orks is that Russians themselves were the first to do it, they took one look at LOTR and went "Hey, Tolkien's talking about us(((" and then some Russian author wrote a fanfic about the Orks smashing up the Elves because they also assumed those were Europeans
Anonymous No.64380522 >>64380527 >>64380534
>>64379995
Get a room, hyperwarfags. Or better yet, tank proving grounds with complete HD video coverage.
Anonymous No.64380527
>>64380522
Anon, what do you think the Ukraine war really is?
Anonymous No.64380534
>>64380522
that's your heritage, this board wouldn't exist if they didn't invent the internet to connect neo-helsinki to the daegu occupation government. Show respect.
Anonymous No.64380537
>>64380511
(Schwarzkopf chuckle)
Anonymous No.64380546 >>64380606 >>64381310
>>64380511
Nonexistent. The entire Belarusian military is essentially 4 motor rifle divisions and 1 armored division that haven't seen combat since the Soviet war in Afghanistan. Essentially the whole apparatus exists to prevent Luka from getting Ghaddafied by the entire population of Minsk.
In the first week of the war he had a televised press conference where he was basically just blurting out the entire Russian invasion plan whilst his cheifs of staff looked on in dumbfounded horror, their faces screaming "holy shit shut up you're telling them everything"
I fully believe he tried to join in to get good boy points with Monke but his top brass flat out told him they if they got stuck in that massive fucking traffic jam to Hostomel they'd straight up refuse to order their units in, and that if he forced them, they'd be stuck there and nobody would be around to make sure his anus remained bayonet-free.
After that point he has barely spoke of or even acknowledged the war is even happening.
Anonymous No.64380551
>>64380396
>Does this mean Russia can no longer produce 40s tech radial engines at a reasonable and economic rate?
>Are they still not able to develop a replacement for the An-2 despite attempts going back to the 60s?
Maybe they use the other engine for drones or something, do they have drones this big?
Anonymous No.64380560 >>64380564 >>64380568 >>64380574 >>64380615
>>64379952
Russia is the world's 4th largest economy and the 2nd most powerful army(after China). Seethe and cope
Anonymous No.64380564
>>64380560
You are brown
Anonymous No.64380568 >>64380579
>>64380560
So you're saying the mighty puccian bear is losing to its inferiors?
Anonymous No.64380574
>>64380560
you mean number 1, after india saar
Anonymous No.64380579 >>64380590 >>64380716 >>64380721
>>64380568
If by losing you mean winning too slowly, russia doesn't fight for territory but for THD
Anonymous No.64380590
>>64380579
>russia doesn't fight for territory but for THD
Daddy Putin would disagree with you
Anonymous No.64380606 >>64380665 >>64380733 >>64380953 >>64381310
>>64380546
So you admit he is the most intelligent leader of the entire war by making the brilliant strategic decision to do absolutely nothing but peel potatoes?

Sounds to me like McClellan will have stiff completion in the 'Troops Choice' category in the Sun Zu 'Best Leaders of all time' award contest.
Anonymous No.64380615 >>64380663
>>64380560
>PPP
You are easy to ignore
Anonymous No.64380634 >>64380932 >>64381437 >>64383799
>>64379830
>NATO reporting name "Borzoi"
Anonymous No.64380650
>>64380511
He has managed to keep Belarus out of the mess despite Russians staging it from their territory. That alone seems like a smart decision.
Anonymous No.64380663 >>64380687 >>64380707 >>64380717 >>64380720 >>64380728
>>64380615
>egg costs 10$ in germany and only 2$ in russia so this means germany is richer
Seething at PPP is a clear sign of someone being a economically illiterate golem
Anonymous No.64380665 >>64380725
>>64380606
>Be McClellan
>Encounter a Confederate screening force
>"OH FUCK! IT'S ALL 200,000 MEN OF THE ARMY OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA!"
>Bunker down and fire telegraph after telegraph to DC begging for more troops
Anonymous No.64380687
>>64380663
Believing a nation can be rich in eggs and car insurance and broccok means that you are unsuitable for bringing the species into the future. If you have children, their existence is a net loss to the planet. I'd pay for your vasectomy.
Anonymous No.64380707
>>64380663
Saar I can redeem 300 chickens for $1 I am very rich saar. Indoor plumbing? Saar I don't know what that is
Anonymous No.64380716
>>64380579
>winning
How is Russia winning.

In b4
>muh advances
>muh land
Irrelevant.
Anonymous No.64380717 >>64384534
>>64380663
>Russia is RICH in egg power. Also in cabbage and low cost mobile internet.
That is why PPP makes for a retarded comparison. You waste of DNA faggots keep on harping on about it, yet none of you pieces of garbage can explain why a basket of retail consumer goods, especially in a country with abysmal GINI, would be a good metric to determine the wealth of a nation, especially considering that you ignorant ass took PER CAPITA out of it. You rank next to Malaysia and the poorer nations in Europe when this somewhat more relevant metric comes into play.

If you have children already I hope they never breed. If you have managed to avoid impregnating your low class devotchka yet, I'll literally pay for your vasectomy, faggot. You are a net loss for human civilisation.
Anonymous No.64380720 >>64380726
>>64380663
I just bought 12 eggs for €1.99 2 hours ago.
t. German
Anonymous No.64380721
>>64380579
>russia doesn't fight for territory but for THD
Okay. So why is Russia losing, then? You know, what with TZD progressing much faster.
Anonymous No.64380722
>>64379838
What gas? refineries are blown up
Anonymous No.64380725
>>64380665
The really odd thing is we know he was capable of decisive action, even highly complex, innovative and risky actions. With hindsight it seems clear he was deliberately avoiding decisive engagements and would not chase retreating enemy forces because he simply refused to see them as the enemy. He really did see them as confused fellow citizens that needed to be convinced and contained but under no circumstances significantly harmed.

He was too nice of a guy for his position. Under idea circumstances he would have been promoted out of command and made Secretary of War but the guy we already had was excellent at it.
Anonymous No.64380726
>>64380720
Don't upset him with real data.
Anonymous No.64380728
>>64380663
LMAO, eggs are literally cheaper in Germany than in Russia right now.
Anonymous No.64380733 >>64380744
>>64380606
He was forced into that decision by his own military commanders telling him that there'd be both a military coup and a general revolt if he tried anything else.
Anonymous No.64380744 >>64380761
>>64380733
>He listened to his commanders
So he is smarter than Putin and nearly every other dictator ever?
Anonymous No.64380761 >>64380800 >>64380827
>>64380744
Not a great achievement. Most people will listen to the person pointing a gun at their head.
Anonymous No.64380788 >>64381429
>>64380396
You got a link for that greentext mate?
Anonymous No.64380800 >>64380827 >>64380953
>>64380761
Even that is an accomplishment. Almost all Dictators fail because they don't listen to expert advice and/or don't realize that they are doing something that will result in a coup which is really the same thing.

Either way the result is the same: Spending the afternoon picking potatoes instead of being hanged outside a gas station or dragged out of a sewer pipe.

One of the top five smartest dictators of the century so far.
Anonymous No.64380802
>>64380474
>you have NO CHOICE BUT to wage land war in Asia
Sounds horrible. Make the thread.
Anonymous No.64380827 >>64380831 >>64383064 >>64383719
>>64380800
>>64380761
>Putin demands Luka join the war
>Luka agrees
>Putin demands to know where the Belarus troops are
>Meanwhile:
Anonymous No.64380831 >>64380908 >>64381811
>>64380827
why is luka doing rollerbeetle racing?
Anonymous No.64380876
>>64379790 (OP)
Because they're winning too hard in Ukraine.
Anonymous No.64380886
>>64379830
>Flying Banan
Makes perfect sense really.
Anonymous No.64380904
>>64380332
What it means is Putin and Co don't care if all the civilian airlines in russia go tits up, so long as they can delay a complete military and governmental collapse for a little while longer. Besides, the serfs don't need to fly, all they seem to do is flee conscription or leave and never come back.
>private investment
I don't think even russian oligarchs are stupid enough to invest in russian domestic industries right now.
Anonymous No.64380908 >>64380962 >>64380975 >>64381811 >>64383187 >>64383300 >>64383719
>>64380831
>He doesn't know
The commies spent decades blaming the CIA for this shit, claiming the 'murrican federal glowniggers had air-dropped or smuggled in bugs to sabotage potato crops all over eastern Europe.
These particular posters are east-German, but the same campaign/narrative was the standard all over the communist-bloc.
Anonymous No.64380919
>>64379790 (OP)
When its real life and you cant load your last save.
Anonymous No.64380932
>>64380634
heh
Anonymous No.64380951
>>64379968
>>64380008
NTA but I think you both kind of missed his point. It might seem like hair-splitting but it's not to when anon referenced
>There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare
Objectively speaking, the only benefits to Vietnam and Afghanistan were victory. I think what anon was getting at is the fairly indisputable fact that no nation winds up better off after a *protracted war* than when they started.
>invariably high attrition rates of either valuable personnel and/or of whole civilian demographics
>economy generally in ruins
>pre-war status is invariably worse-off than post-war

>inb4 Burgers and WWII
Not comparable, really. The only time the Americans have come close to anything as genuinely costly as a prolonged, protracted war wasn't even Vietnam or Afghanistan, it was the Civil War where 600,000 Americans died at a time when that was an appalling percentage of the young male population. America's demographics at the time and more or less unironically good immigration stats are probably what cushioned that for America compared to Europe with WWI or WWII.
Anonymous No.64380953 >>64381141 >>64381361 >>64381811 >>64382387
>>64380606
>>64380800
When master strategist Zhugalienko faced news of imminent annexation, he ordered his borders open, sent his troops to the Polish border disguised as Negroes, and sat alone in the central square of Minsk peeling potatoes. When Muscovite armies came, they did not dare enter the city fearing a cunning trap, and so they left Belarus alone and went to go die in Ukraine.
Anonymous No.64380962 >>64383187
>>64380908
that was a fun time
Anonymous No.64380975 >>64381018 >>64383187 >>64384431
>>64380908
>These particular posters are east-German, but the same campaign/narrative was the standard all over the communist-bloc.
Pole here, can confirm.
Anonymous No.64380976
>>64379790 (OP)
They aren't going to be able to build enough ships or aircraft to make a difference in Ukraine. Their economy is in the shitter and they simply don't have the money to waste on these projects.
Anonymous No.64380993
>>64380008
I reread the end of your post and you did get the anon.
Anonymous No.64381018 >>64381417 >>64383187 >>64384431
>>64380975
Thanks, saved.
Anonymous No.64381141 >>64381361
>>64380953
>Mein Monke, please give me permission to charge into the city!
The troops within Minsk may be few, but what about those in the potato fields around the city? Zhugalienko is careful by nature and will never take risks. Hurry and retreat!
Anonymous No.64381203
>tfw we're gonna see russia die not from a invasion by china or nooks but by a suicide war in EU4 style by themselves
Anonymous No.64381211
>>64379790 (OP)
Man was not meant to fly or he would have wings, plus, expensive when your economy is wrecked.
Anonymous No.64381221
>>64379790 (OP)
>"We didn't need those industries"
Anonymous No.64381224 >>64383019
>>64380093
So in short no stealth fighters, no armatas, no T-I-G-E-R-S, no T-15's? Just USSR era gear, same old same old.
Anonymous No.64381255 >>64385162 >>64387813
>>64379832
>If you have $1,000,000 and get $1,000 per day and something happens and you're now $100,000,000 in debt but you get $2,000 per day now, you can literally say that you're 100% better off income wise now.
Wrong because $100,000,000 debt comes with interest payments that fucks your net income, retard.
Anonymous No.64381267
>>64379790 (OP)
>get into business of war
>all of your out-of-country profits drop for reasons according to immoral war
>oil gets demolished, massive cuts to everything
>bread, eggs and milk soars in price, once that happens that's what it means things got bad
>it's been that way for 3 years now
Not unexpected they slash budgets.
Anonymous No.64381268
>>64379790 (OP)
The Russian economy is taking a beating from the war and the sanctions, especially when Ukraine really started to go all in on fucking up shit like refineries, in other words the longer it goes on for the worse it gets for the Russian economy
Anonymous No.64381310 >>64381811 >>64383539
>>64380606
>>64380546
You both cannot see the sheer political genius that is Luka. Underestimating him is easy, but he's been in place longer than Monkey. He knows better than anyone how to play the real game: which is to keep playing. (Admittedly, he almost slipped a few years before when there was a near-revolution brewing, but poot-poot saved him... Unfortunately for him, such aid never comes for free.)

His "accidentally leaking" the invasion plans was a careful "ow~ sorry putin sempai I'm such a dummy nyoron~ :3 " move. Unlike the Banan king, the Potato king knows that starting wars is fucktarded, so he's been very careful to stay out of the whole mess as much as possible. He also knows he's very likely next on the list if (when) putin finally gets the quackdhaffi special. It's a tightrope walk.

Ultimately, he wants the war to be over and for no one to win. Status quo is his only interest.
Anonymous No.64381361
>>64380953
>>64381141
A true shitposter of the three keks.
Anonymous No.64381406 >>64381981 >>64383313
>>64379790 (OP)
>but why?
because they're winning?
Anonymous No.64381417 >>64381440 >>64381590 >>64383187
>>64381018
Have another.
Anonymous No.64381429
>>64380788
>wasted dubs
lmgtfy
https://carroemotos.com.br/russia-tests-classic-an-2-aircraft-with-mi-8-helicopter-engine/
Anonymous No.64381437
>>64380634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwzboBhj1UQ
Anonymous No.64381440
>>64381417
>riding a can of horse meat
Anonymous No.64381441
>>64380332
>Just means they expect private investors to take up the financing.
Kek, who the fuck is going to do that? Who's going to spend money on an industry that is actively dying from lack of planes and spare parts?
>shake up in the sanction regimes
Kek. Even if that were likely, no one would invest.

What it actually means is that Monke has given up on having decent aviation and is going to spend the money on chinse scooters instead so he can advance another 5km next year.
Anonymous No.64381559
>>64380332
by private investors you mean Chinese and Turkish investors, of course
Anonymous No.64381578 >>64387487
>>64379893
Realistically, you won’t.
Or rather, you will. But it won’t be due to maintenance or whatever. Knowing Russian commercial aviation, it’ll be something retarded like β€œAnd then first officer Yevgeny tried to flirt with Captain Boris by performing sexual acts using the control yoke, disconnecting the autopilot in the process. Both pilots were thereafter distracted by a mosquito flying around in the cockpit and thus were not aware of their descent until they were too low to recover. Total Zigger Death ensued”
Anonymous No.64381585
>>64379893
not anytime soon. Donnie removed sanctions on belarus national carrier. Which means vatniks can now buy how many spare parts they need for their stolen planes directly from boeing and airbus
Anonymous No.64381590 >>64381600
>>64381417
Why is the US scout checking out his own commanding officer's ass?
Anonymous No.64381600
>>64381590
It's drawn by Russians, why the fuck do you think?
Anonymous No.64381614
In nine months russia lost equivalent of 10 US divisions in just confirmed dead and missing
Anonymous No.64381616 >>64381637 >>64382458 >>64382987 >>64383169
>>64380126
>everyone knows they are the future and eventually nearly every car on the road will be electic
no they are fucking not and never will be. ICE motors are and will always be superior to the gimp mobils. Dont confuse heavy marketing shilling and herd mentality for anything practical. On the engineering level there is no comparison between the two

if you want a real comparison reusable rockets are painfully superior to old school disposable shells. The advantages are so painfully lopsided that SpaceX is outpacing low earth orbit tonnage several times of the rest of the world combined
Anonymous No.64381637 >>64383160 >>64384393 >>64385173
>>64381616
The fuel isn't inexhaustible, anon. Eventually, non-EV cars will become too expensive to operate.
Anonymous No.64381811 >>64382093
>>64380831
>>64380908
It's a joke, that thing in the background is a Starship Troopers plasma bug sized potato weevil, Luka's #1 enemy. Since the start of the war Belarus has been cut off from Roundup and other western pesticides and more importantly Dutch seed. Luka supplies a significant amount of agricultural products and the embargoes have hit them hard, them giving the DPRK a years worth of potatoes and other products on behalf of Putin did not help.

It might backfire, Kim and Luka both going all out on agriculture and a team up is already happening on high levels, Kim needs food and Luka needs weapons so the exchange is obvious.

>Bro i heard you needed potatoes
>I heard you need canned fish bro
>Yo bro let's make a deal
>Deal, so you heard the latest shit about what Vlad is doing?
>Bro, wtf?
>I know right?

>>64380953
If it works it works right?

>>64381310
Actual truth.
Anonymous No.64381981
>>64381406
>because they're winning?
Anonymous No.64382008 >>64382398
>>64380396

Full context: SibNIA (Chaplygin Siberian Scientific Research Institute Of Aviation) tried through various efforts to replace the AN-2. The AN-2 however is what meets the budget, and the environment (zero, and brutal). The project is to use surplus to create something from nothing. Sitting airframes, and surplus helicopters. AN-2s serve as regional passenger and cargo aircraft throughout russia, and attempts at making composite replacements is expensive. One offs are possible, but no one has time for one offs. So the constraints:

The radial engine is heavy, fuel, and oil hungry. It used to be acceptable because there were spare parts of it everywhere and anywhere, now that is not the case. So what do you do with a bunch of good airframes but no engines, with a budget of effectively zero? Chop down the helo engine, accept the losses, because they already exist and are "free".

Because the engine weighs a fraction of the wright radial clone, you can also squeeze in some other efficencies. Get rid of the lower wings because the plane never flys slow enough for crop dusting, and the runways it uses are bad, but not that bad, go ahead and enjoy the weight savings on that too, as well as drag savings.

Now the plane is lighter, faster, and more fuel efficient, and they have staved off the collapse of their regional aircraft infrastructure for another 10-15 years with spares alone, and the possibility that the equipment used can now be refurbished. Failing that, the airframes will continue to be "good enough" and a new source of engines can be found later.

Its not much, but its what you work with when you have nothing.
Anonymous No.64382038 >>64382398
>>64380463
>Gendo and SEELEs faces when Third Impact is stopped because GDL beats GNR.
Anonymous No.64382093 >>64382315 >>64382398 >>64382673
>>64381811
Oh, it's even worse than that. Agriculture in Russia is in for interesitng times: Domestic production of agricultural machinery has been reduced ~30% across the board this year despite sanctions removing foreign competitors from the market. All because demand has cratered as farmers can't afford to buy new or replace their old machines and tractors.
Anonymous No.64382315 >>64382325 >>64382398
>>64382093
The harvest failed in both Puccia and Belarus this year. We're going to see some funny shit in another year's time of this.
Anonymous No.64382325 >>64382398
>>64382315
I'll be honest here. Famine and cannibalism ARE on my bingo.
Anonymous No.64382348
>>64380425
>Allah save the Caucasus, for no-one else can
Baller line
Anonymous No.64382387
>>64380953
>"What's the penalty for being late?" >"ASS RAPE."
>"What's the penalty for rebellion?" >"ASS RAPE."
>"Well -- we're late."
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64382398 >>64382420 >>64382810 >>64383366
>>64382008
Now mention that the only three nations who know how to make make the airframes and engines are Ukraine, the PRC and North Korea. Note that that list does not include Russia.

>>64382038
Mari is best girl and i will fight and die on a hill for her.

>>64382093
>>64382315
>>64382325
Norks took some of Russia's agriculture programs, there are areas like livestock breeding, forestry and fishery hatcheries where the DPRK has outright robbed them blind. Russia doesn't even understand half the things the Norks are taking from them long term. That suits the DPRK and me just fine.

Not a current song, i just like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6duNkhANjc&list=RDj6duNkhANjc&start_radio=1
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64382420 >>64383560
>>64382398
>make make
>that that
I've reached a level of autism in my life where i stutter while typing, i'm not sure if that is a accomplishment or a warning sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6duNkhANjc&list=RDj6duNkhANjc&start_radio=1
Anonymous No.64382427 >>64383223
>>64380106
>It's a solid long term economic plan
no it fucking isn't
Climate change is going to fuck Russia harder than anyone who isn't living in the killzone around the equator
Anonymous No.64382458
>>64381616
>On the engineering level there is no comparison between the two
You are correct, ICE will never be able to match the raw power of an electric motor
Anonymous No.64382673
>>64382093
They're also using up horses that would normally work in agriculture.
Anonymous No.64382800
I understand the ships but didn't the have trouble in Ukraine because of the lack of airpower?
Anonymous No.64382810 >>64382892
>>64382398
i thought you were just a skaven
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64382892 >>64385930
>>64382810
I'm offended by the comparison, in WHF 30+ years ago i played Undead. I''m angry on behalf of Giant Clown Nagash and my 500+ skeleton models.

Before i stopped playing 40K i had a neat little 2000 point army of a Inquisitor, a squad of Grey Knights and Arbitrators in 2ed. Back then it was the WD Arbitrators army, 1500 points of plasma grenades with persistent templates, 2+ riot shields, instant kill shock mauls not to mention executioner shotguns with indirect fire templates that did knock back on a 4+. Of course i abused Vortex and Rad grenades constantly.
Anonymous No.64382966 >>64383177
>>64379830
>Monoplane turned into a biplane
Kino.
>Biplane turned into a monoplane
Abomination
Anonymous No.64382987 >>64383384
>>64381616
>ICE motors are and will always be superior
That's simply not true. Electric motors are vastly superior to internal combustion engines in every possible way.
It's just that fuel is even more superior to current batteries.
Anonymous No.64383019
>>64381224
>Just USSR era gear, same old same old.
You can atleast bet on them getting new production Buhankas, for what its worth anyways... That and gear from alibaba.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6AqWDbqp44&list=PLo-ZDovAG7m8D8nWmJ6cwc0OclhEMM7up&index=31
>vidrel, Russian economy 2022+3
Anonymous No.64383064
>>64380827
I'm howling m8
Anonymous No.64383160 >>64383174 >>64385195
>>64381637
And minerals for car batteries just grow on trees? Like the power needed to charge the same batteries?
Anonymous No.64383169 >>64383187 >>64383258 >>64383547 >>64388001 >>64388878
>>64381616
>ICE motors are and will always be superior to the gimp mobils.
Is this a joke? Literally anyone with a modicum of knowledge about cars will tell you otherwise.
The only reasons EVs struggle to become widespread in western countries are oil lobbying and the fact that for some reason environmental policies have become intertwined with conspiracy bullshit and bipartisan retardation.
Anonymous No.64383174
>>64383160
>Like the power needed to charge the same batteries?
It near enough does with nuclear and even fossil based power plants will be more efficient than a piston engine.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383177
>>64382966
>>Biplane turned into a monoplane
>AN-2

SLAUGHTER THEM ALL UNTO THE SEVENTH GENERATION KILL THEM ALL KILL THEIR LIVESTOCK POISON THEIR WELLS SALT THE EARTH LEAVE NO STONE ON TOP ANOTHER LEAVE NOT EVEN THE VIRGIN CHILDEREN ALIVE ERASE EVEN THE MEMORY OF THEIR EXISTANCE FROM HUMAN HISTORY SO THAT EVEN GOD DOES NOT REMEMBER THEIR NAME

Let it be know that that the moment i saw that image marks the exact second i became a moderate.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383187 >>64383300 >>64383699 >>64384402
>>64383169
>>64381417
>>64381018
>>64380975
>>64380962
>>64380908
Would any of you believe that when i was studying agriculture in collage my advisor was a guy who worked with DARPA the 60s to determine the USA's capability do exactly this sort of shit but against the PRC?
Anonymous No.64383190
>>64379821
Well its certainly booming, in a way
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383195 >>64383198 >>64383398 >>64385785
>>64379830
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY CUT OFF HER LOWER WINGS THEY LEFT THE STUBS STICKING OUT

*Incoherent frothing geocidal rage noises*
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383198
>>64383195
Note: 'geocidal' wasn't a typo.
Anonymous No.64383223 >>64383236 >>64383251 >>64383436
>>64382427
Canada and Russia are expected to be the only winners as they have vast tundra that could be used for agriculture while other far north countries have shitty rocky ground.
Anonymous No.64383236
>>64383223
wouldn't a softening tundra mean that all russian infrastructure in siberia and generally north straight up breaks apart? railway, roads, gaspipes, houses... the soil was stable, and anything built on it designed in mind that it was stable.
also, how useful will it be for farming since it doesn't have much nutrients unlike say chornozem? amazonas slash and burn? plants need nutrients unless you shower them with fertilizer (with that you can even make stuff grow in shitty saudi arabian desert farms)
you'd need many cycles of building rootmass, life in general, in that tundra soil for something to happen. there isn't an abundance of trees on bare tundra soil to slash and burn either.
then there's the problem russia doesn't have the knowledge and infrastructure to build infrastructure; unlike china.
Anonymous No.64383251
>>64383223
The land is not going to be viable for agriculture and even if it was the yearly window in which it is possible to grow food will shrink dramatically
Its also not going to stay unfrozen year round, as weather extremes become more frequent and severe
Anonymous No.64383258
>>64383169
take your meds
Anonymous No.64383274
>>64380408
>the Ukraine
your ass will be in the ass soon, petya
Anonymous No.64383300 >>64383357 >>64383375 >>64383406 >>64383719
>>64380908
i remember a story about journalist in East Germany that refused to publish this shit on account that it was clear already the year before that the next will have a colorado beetle plague only to never work as a journalist afterwards kek

>>64383187
> a guy who worked with DARPA the 60s to determine the USA's capability do exactly this sort of shit but against the PRC?
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, pests and pathogens targeting crops and livestock are often overlooked but are bioweapons all the same
For the Colorado beetle specifically, it was analyzed for its potential as a bioweapon already during WWI if i remember it right
Anonymous No.64383313
>>64381406
they are winning alright. the darwin award that is
Anonymous No.64383336
>>64380126
> A good comparison is EVs, everyone knows they are the future
>2025
>still believing this bullshit
Jesus…
Anonymous No.64383341
The casino when they double down.
S.I.M. No.64383352
>>64379790 (OP)
petrol no gas
urkraine has bombed most of the gas. no point making this that can't work and got no gas for.

also all banks are near crashing
and so making cuts to save the country from colapsing would be my guess.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383357 >>64383375
>>64383300
>Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, pests and pathogens targeting crops and livestock are often overlooked but are bioweapons all the same

He was part of a DARPA program that figured out that the airborne mass spectrometers we we using to monitor Mao's atomic efforts could also be used to monitor their use of synthetically produced fertilizer. He was brilliant and also a traitor.

He gave the PRC the salt resistant turf grass strains the prevent the PRC's artificial islands in the South Sea from washing away. Before that he helped engineer strains of rice and wheat blast that would have killed half their population in a extended war but Nixon put a stop to that funding. He really hated Nixon and then as some sort of revenge turned his turf grass knowledge into telling the PRC how to reclaim land without it washing away.

I'd name him but i'd probably get a three day ban for doxing.
Anonymous No.64383366 >>64383375
>>64382398
Everything NK could possibly learn from Russia on that front is openly displayed and sold at any state fair in the US. You would simply buy a ticket. Up to and including technical drawings and machine specs.
Because to us they're insects.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383375 >>64383412
>>64383366
The USSR had some decent fishery and goat programs that are now the property of the DPRK, they did shit like physically haul off concrete fish hatchery tanks. It would have easier if they just copied them but when the DPRK takes something they take everything.

>>64383357
>>64383300
Fuck it, my old collage advisor is a traitor and if i get a ban so be it, at least i said so openly and on the record:

https://www.fsa.usda.gov/sites/default/files/documents/m_sullivan_ri_sed.pdf
Anonymous No.64383384 >>64383397
>>64382987
Says the eternal virgin.
Anonymous No.64383397 >>64383413
>>64383384
please feel free to go ahead and explain how ICE is supposed to compete with power like this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt0SQeX0LrQ
Anonymous No.64383398 >>64383412
>>64383195
I see "strut support assembly 1&2"
Anonymous No.64383406
>>64383300
It was scrapped as it was found the beetle would become too dominant and double back on our own shit.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383412 >>64383628 >>64383965 >>64384233
>>64383375
I have a hilarious moment whenever i see the Kim Il Sung Turf grass Institute on KCNA, it is a direct copy of the URI facilities.

There is a small (16X24 foot) green house attached to the garage that i personally refurbished with a tiny $2000 USDA grant to try out methods of growing dry land rice strains/ I've seen it on KCNA, i only used about $800 of the grant. I can tell they are using my design because of the cheap plexiglass roofing panels i used to fix it, i wanted to impress the USDA/URI by giving them most of the grant money back.

It worked BTW, you can grow dry land rice in turf grass fields in RI. As of 2010ish you can also do cotton but mostly as a trap crop, especially if you intermix it with tobacco.

>>64383398
IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE TWO WINGS WHY DOESN'T SHE HAVE TWO WINGS AN 2 HAVE TWO WINGS THEY NEED TO DIE AND BE EXTERMINATED FOR TAKING HER WINGS THE ONLY SOUND I EVER WANT TO HEAR FROM A RUSSIAN IS THE SOUND OF A NORTH KOREAN TANK CRUSHING THEIR CHILDRENS CHARRED SKULLS UNDER THER TRACKS

I am a moderate when it comes to biplane designs.
Anonymous No.64383413 >>64383430 >>64383439 >>64383529 >>64384759
>>64383397
Easy. It works. EVs are a wonderwaffen based on subsidy, slavery, shit tech, CHINA, and the retarded notion that a superficial solution is not soviet duct tape.
Never mind the industry is trash and the products have the life of a grasshopper, the pure power curve has no backbone. Hooked bumper to bumper the ICE vehicle will rip the other's frame in half. EVs have power at the second of demand and as soo as there is and "tug-back" on the rope, the fucking things fold.
Ok kid. Nice fuckin toy, but it's a toy. Come back when you grow a cock.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64383430 >>64383514 >>64385697
>>64383413
You are close to being the dumbest and/or most deluded person i've ever encountered on /k/ and that list includes Armatard, Mike Sparks, Armchair Warlord and myself.
Anonymous No.64383436 >>64385704
>>64383223
Canada's soil up north isn't suitable for agriculture and we're paving over our rich agricultural lands to house millions of 78 IQ shitjeets.
Anonymous No.64383438 >>64383602
>>64379790 (OP)
sayonara
Anonymous No.64383439 >>64383834 >>64385697
>>64383413
Man if only someone tried to use electric motors to do something like haul mile long freight trains they'd figure out how right you are in a hurry. It's a good thing nobody uses electric propulsion to do that.
Anonymous No.64383448 >>64386472
>>64379822
Underrated

You don't NEED to be on an airplane. Why, are you so important? Don't you realize the state needs those parts more than you?
Anonymous No.64383514
>>64383430
You know someone's a retard when even Norktard says they're a retard.
Anonymous No.64383529 >>64385697
>>64383413
you really need to learn not to speak about things on which you have no knowledge
Anonymous No.64383539 >>64383543
>>64381310
It was abhorrent that America reused to send more help when the people of Belarus were embracing democracy and attempting to hold the regime accountable for Russian election interference. Other western countries like the UK were providing a proper amount of help. It is humiliating for the US that more was not done.
Anonymous No.64383543 >>64383575 >>64383579
>>64383539
I agree in principle and spirit, but what kind of aid could America send to a protest movement?
Anonymous No.64383547
>>64383169
>The only reasons EVs struggle to become widespread in western countries are oil lobbying
LMAO no, stop smoking so much
Anonymous No.64383560
>>64382420
>that that
That one was correct. I like the "warning sigh" though.
Anonymous No.64383575 >>64383589
>>64383543
M2 Bradleys
Anonymous No.64383579 >>64383589
>>64383543
The US should commit to not only long-term support for pro-democracy institution building in Belarus, but also affirm hard lines for when it would cease to recognize the regime due to potential actions taken against the protestors. In addition, the US should have identified key protest movement leaders and provided them with increased funding and even weapons aid.
Anonymous No.64383589 >>64383592 >>64383593 >>64385710 >>64389498
>>64383579
>>64383575
>Send weapons.
Eh. Seems unreasonable. Mayhaps the US State Department should have treated the Belarus protests like it did the Maidan protests.
Anonymous No.64383592 >>64383600
>>64383589
Xaxaxa yes send weapons most unreasonable. I am from New York oblast and are demoralized
Anonymous No.64383593 >>64383600
>>64383589
>Seems unreasonable
Not really. The M2 Bradley is the new right arm of freedom. Why pussy foot around? What would the thirdies do? Go crying to BRICs?
Anonymous No.64383600 >>64383601 >>64383833
>>64383592
Missouri Oblast, actually. I'm very fond of the warm-water port in NOLA.
>>64383593
Giving a Bradley to a protest movement is reasonable? How do you even get the thing into Belarus without starting a war?
Anonymous No.64383601
>>64383600
>Giving a Bradley to a protest movement is reasonable?
What are you, a commie? Of course it's reasonable if we do it, who'd stop us?

>How do you even get the thing into Belarus without starting a war?
We have these things called "aircraft" maybe one day your little backwater pissant "country" will get some too. Doubt it though
Anonymous No.64383602
>>64383438
>heaven takes the best...
>these faggots, however, go to the eternal rape pit with all the other ziggers
Anonymous No.64383628
>>64383412
How juche of you! Care to share the greenhouse specifics? I happen to have a liking for experimental agricolture too
Anonymous No.64383652 >>64383679 >>64385825 >>64386450
>>64380518
Well it certainly is true that Tolkien inserted some rather outdated and morally naive views in his work where, convnetienly, the blonde rich pale guys are all good and the downtrodden brown folk who are poor are to be killed without moral questioning. Ugly = evil is basically fascist theory on esthetics. It's a bit sad because he could write very well but came from a deeply problematic background has caused a lot of harm witb his views to literature and society and perpetual othering
Anonymous No.64383679 >>64387193
>>64383652
>Ugly = evil is basically fascist theory on esthetics.
I guess fascism wasn't all wrong then.
Anonymous No.64383684
people don't hate russia because it keeps invading its neighbours, people hate russia because it's an undeveloped dump of a country that keeps invading its neighbours
Anonymous No.64383699
>>64383187
>capability do exactly this sort of shit but against the PRC
Why bother when chinks did worse themselves?
Anonymous No.64383719
>>64380827
>>64380908
>>64383300
"During the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine, the word kolorady, from the Ukrainian and Russian term for Colorado beetle (Ukrainian: Тyк кoлopaдcький, Russian: кoлopaдcкий Тyк), gained popularity among Ukrainians as a derogatory term to describe pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts (provinces) of Eastern Ukraine. The nickname reflects the similarity of black and orange stripes on St. George's ribbons worn by many of the separatists"
Heh
Anonymous No.64383736
>>64380511
Early on a /k/ommando bet that he'd end up running Russia by the end of this war. Stranger things have happened.
Anonymous No.64383799
>>64379830
>>64380634
>>NATO reporting name "Borzoi"
Anonymous No.64383821
>>64379965
>Even in shithole countries they buy from the same manufacturers that are governed by 1st world regulations
you know where they don't?
Russia.
Anonymous No.64383833 >>64383978
>>64383600
>I'm very fond of the warm-water port in NOLA
I'm forcibly reminded of telegram's most powerful gay retarded vatnik 's wholesome tale of two patriotic residents of Louisiana autonomous okrug and their visit to famous warm water port to see the iconic US navy nuclear guided missile cruiser.
Anonymous No.64383834
>>64383439
The thing about electric motors on locomotives is, outside of a few single cab-car commuter trains, theyre not powered by batteries but either on-board diesel engines or overhead electric lines via pantograph.
Generally, the idea of using battery-electric locomotives for freight hauling is a non-starter
Anonymous No.64383965 >>64384233
>>64383412
>a trap crop, especially if you intermix it with tobacco
Interracial anthropomorphic gay crossdressing plantsona porn? Norktard, you coombrained little freak, Dear Leader is going to have executed for that.
Anonymous No.64383975 >>64384019
>>64380315
What's that, communal gangbang flashlight?
Anonymous No.64383978 >>64384044
>>64383833
i don't understand. is this what russians think america is like or is that how russians imagine their navy?
Anonymous No.64383999
>>64380408
>the Ukrine
Shitskin detected
Anonymous No.64384019
>>64383975
that's the newest squad member's job
it's just pig snout
Anonymous No.64384036 >>64384085
>>64379830
russias civilian aviation industry is even more fucked than their military equivalent and the replacement for the venerable AN-2 is one of the best examples of the total shitshow that is going on there
Picrel is a copypasta translated by an anon from 2ch dating back to 2018 that describes it pretty good
Anonymous No.64384038
Russia is just straight up losing at this point, isn't it?
Anonymous No.64384044 >>64384056 >>64384159
>>64383978
It's what a very special russian makes to accompany his incredibly mid AIslop created with a telegram bot designed for gay furry porn.
So somewhere in between I'd say.
Pictured, one of fine Louisianans from the story in a previous episode with the vehicles necessary to brave the harsh Louisiana winter.
Anonymous No.64384056 >>64384205
>>64384044
Here's what he has to say about the Russian military
Anonymous No.64384085 >>64384242 >>64385473
>>64384036
here is Sibnia's abandoned take on on the AN2 replacement
>fully composite biplane without analogues in the world
Anonymous No.64384135 >>64385017 >>64385204 >>64386926
>>64379790 (OP)
This is proof that Ukraine's attacks have been ineffective. Russia wouldn't cancelling ships and aircraft if they were running low. The truth the OSINTbros don't want to face is that Russia has built so many new ships and aircraft they've run out of places to put them. The reason why you only ever see obsolete equipment in Ukrainian drone videos is because Russia is sending their old Soviet stockpiles first to free up room for the new super--advanced next-gens they've been (to borrow a phrase from Nikita Khrushchev) "churning out like sausages". See? I awkwardly referenced an almost-slightly-obscure historical anecdote which means I am very well read.

Announcement: I'm going to be taking a break from twitter for a few days for unrelated reasons.
Anonymous No.64384150
>>64379893
The chances of a Russian commercial airliner crashing have actually gone down since 2022 because most of their air defense batteries are in Ukraine.
Anonymous No.64384159 >>64385588 >>64387212 >>64388241
>>64384044
Is it wrong that I kind of want one of those not-a-jeeps in the background?
Anonymous No.64384205 >>64386394
>>64384056
Why are they likes this? It cannot be the mongols influence alone. I mean, many other countries have been through mongols (and even communism) but none turn out this way.
Anonymous No.64384233
>>64383412
>trap crop
TIL how that thing was called.

>>64383965
>immediately jumps to interracial anthropomorphic gay crossdressing plantsona porn
Found the Russian.
Anonymous No.64384242
>>64384085
and that is the new replacement a monoplane this time, by the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA)
Not that it's any less of a disaster than the previous attempt, costs already exploded, making it more expensive than a cessna grand caravan so no wonder they are trying to rig anything to the old AN2 airframes just to have something to fly
The issues with the domestic motor aren't even the only ones, turns out they did several design errors making the plane unstable at low speeds and require a longer runway than most rural airports it was supposed fly to, which would take another 5 years and 10 millions to fix
The shitshow got so bad that solovyev ranted about it on his show, calling for the designers to get shot kek
Anonymous No.64384296
>>64379830
Whoever is responsible for this should be subjected to the nine familial exterminations
Anonymous No.64384333 >>64384337 >>64384418 >>64388155
>>64379893
Fuck crashes, I've been saying since under a year in that the Ukies should target their civilian airports.
Russia CANNOT REPLACE ITS AIRLINERS. They were leased and Russia stopped paying those leases when the war started, so they're all stolen tech that Russia has no capability whatsoever to replace. A single nighttime attack on Russia's major airports would decimate their civilian aviation.

The attacks on the oil refineries are doing some damage but it's repairable damage, and a slight variation in gasoline supply doesn't really visibly bring the war home to the average Russian citizen. They also don't see that they've lost ~80% of their tanks, APCs, and artillery. But not being able to fly anywhere in a country that's 11 time zones across would probably get them to notice that the war is taking them backwards.
Anonymous No.64384337
>>64384333
Better have the thieves keep those planes until they break them and get a hundred people killed. The blame will then only be on those who authorized the use of said planes.
Anonymous No.64384393 >>64384411 >>64384489
>>64381637
WOOD GAS
Anonymous No.64384402
>>64383187
To be fair the chinese had no problem starving themselves on their own.
Anonymous No.64384411 >>64384489
>>64384393
Wir mΓΌssen zurΓΌckkehren
Anonymous No.64384418
>>64384333
>11 time zones across
Nobody wants to go to 10 of those timezones and, of the people that live in them, none have the money to fly anywhere.
Anonymous No.64384431 >>64384483
>>64380975
>>64381018
So according to Polish propaganda Americans are humping beetles?
Anonymous No.64384483
>>64384431
Well, it's true.
Anonymous No.64384484 >>64384500 >>64384614 >>64384746 >>64385397 >>64386955 >>64387271
>>64379830
Could someone explain to this non-planefag how bad this is?
I take it it's pretty terrible due to all of you flying into a bloodthirsty rage, but is it like if someone took the engine out of a Ford Escort, dropped the engine from a Ferrari into it and then turned it on without doing anything else to the car whatsoever?
Anonymous No.64384489 >>64384848 >>64384883
>>64384393
>>64384411
You're laughing but that's a technology they could unironically import from Best Korea.
Anonymous No.64384500 >>64385146 >>64385793
>>64384484
Two wings = SOVL
Clipping wings = BLASPHEMY!
Anonymous No.64384534 >>64384729 >>64385170 >>64386481 >>64387279
>>64380717
>none of you pieces of garbage can explain why a basket of retail consumer goods, especially in a country with abysmal GINI, would be a good metric to determine the wealth of a nation
White person with an IQ over 100 here. I can explain.
Does the fact that you would not be able to afford rent in San Francisco mean you are homeless right now? Is a San Franciscan grocery store bagger who is making $5000/wk but spends $3000/wk on a 1 bedroom apartment and $2000/wk on food to pay the $5000/wk salaries of San Franciscan grocery store employees objectively richer than you just because all the numbers are higher where he lives? Does the fact that you could not afford to live in San Francisco (median housing cost $1.3 million) on your current salary mean you can't afford everything the average San Franciscan has (food, clothing, and shelter) just where you are instead of in the San Franciscan economy?
That San Franciscan grocery store bagger does have some advantages when purchasing from areas where the cost of living is lower. But since the majority of his money is spent in the local economy where ALL the numbers are higher you need to normalize this when comparing relative wealth. That he is making $10 where you are making $1 does not make him 10 times richer than you when he needs to pay $10 for an apple while you can buy one for $1. You both have an apple worth of wealth.


Ask yourself how every Gazan man can afford to have 10 children. You live in the supposedly richest country in the world. Can you afford to have 10 children? Look at your paycheck and try to calculate how much more you'd need to earn to afford 10 kids, then know that a Gazan man has that amount. Could he afford a F-150? No, they're not made locally and priced where he could afford one. But can he afford to have 10 kids? Yup. So the wealth difference between you is not as much as the salary difference in global "F-150 purchasing power" dollars would indicate, now is it?
Anonymous No.64384614
>>64384484
You have to forgive Norktard, he has the extra special tism.
Anonymous No.64384622
>>64379965
Yes, except guess which country manufacturers don't sell spare to anymore.
It starts with R and rhymes with Prussia.

They've been dodging and weaving to get second hand spares, but clearly they are not able to keep up with demand.
Anonymous No.64384700
>>64380511
Putin refused to make him even a Colonel in the Russian army because of his (merited) fear of the potatoe savant.
Anonymous No.64384729
>>64384534
>Ask yourself how every Gazan man can afford to have 10 children
Gibs? We have that here as well.
Anonymous No.64384746
>>64384484
Wing clipping is abuse
Anonymous No.64384758
>>64379937
COME MISTER TALLY MON TALLY ME BANAN
Anonymous No.64384759 >>64385802
>>64383413
>Easy. It works.
Anon we've been using electric motors for over a century now and I can tell you with confidence that they work.
In fact, in pretty much all applications where you can connect to the grid we use electric motors instead of ICEs.
The ONLY limiting factor is energy supply, which is why ICEs are used in cars and vehicles in general.
Anonymous No.64384848
>>64384489
>You see Il Hoe-Yong, enemy cannot gas conscript if conscript arrive at front pre-gassed
Anonymous No.64384883 >>64385013
>>64384489
It's like they tried copying gas-vans but didn't know you're supposed to seal them in first.
Anonymous No.64385013 >>64385428
>>64384883
>but didn't know you're supposed to seal them in first
Yeah, the top should look something like this.
Anonymous No.64385017 >>64385204
>>64384135
>inhales
>exhales
>inhales
Anonymous No.64385146
>>64384500
Four wings good
Two wings bad
Anonymous No.64385157
>>64380093
>For Russia, having a serious blue-water navy was always and always will be a luxury.
Au contraire. A blue-water navy has been a vital--- even essential, component of their Great Power larp since the days of Peter the Great. Take that away and the serfs will begin questioning why they suffer so much if it's not to make Russia strong.
Anonymous No.64385162
>>64381255
And if you made enough money to pay the interest + an extra 2,000 you'd still be in deep shit dumbass
Anonymous No.64385170
>>64384534
These are just questions, rabbi. Not answers. And they seem to be only tangentially related to the topic at hand.
Anonymous No.64385173 >>64388108
>>64381637
You are correct but what matters is if something is functionally infinite/finite. There is objectively a finite amount of available fuel but whether or not that makes a difference is still up in the air. We do not know how much potential fuel there is nor how better we will become at using it in the future. After all we're decades past what people thought would be peak oil yet we still have a lot and it's still economically competitive with alternatives.
Anonymous No.64385195 >>64388042
>>64383160
I mean it doesn't grow on trees but the sun and wind are more ubiquitous than trees already so. You're right on the mineral issue however batteries are improving faster than ICE are so it's eventually going to fall in their favor.
Anonymous No.64385204 >>64385236
>>64384135
>>64385017
qrd?
Anonymous No.64385236 >>64385239
>>64385204
His latest rant straight up included that phrase at the end.
Anonymous No.64385239 >>64385277 >>64385407 >>64386926
>>64385236
jesus lol why hasn't he offed himself yet?
Anonymous No.64385247
>>64379790 (OP)
The cuts will have an outsized effect because the one untouchable part of the budget is the money being lost to corruption. Whatever they slash will have to come out of the legitimate spending column, not the OAPNSGCMDICTROPOB* column


>*oligarchs, acquaintances of Putin from the 90s, and some general's cousin's major defense industrial company that's run out of a PO box
Anonymous No.64385249
>>64379790 (OP)
What do you need ship or plane for when you don't have fuel?
Anonymous No.64385277
>>64385239
Sheer cope and whatever cosmic force he pissed off that also grants him his inverse Cassandra powers.
Anonymous No.64385289
>>64379830
>>64380396
>shoving a helicopter engine into a plane
so we're at this stage of "santions don't work xaxaxaxa". and i thought ziggers needing a special parliamentary commission to approve refurbishing old tank engines was bad.
Anonymous No.64385344
Smekalka is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Anonymous No.64385397
>>64384484
Yes.
Anonymous No.64385407 >>64386926
>>64385239
>Haha, as if! I'm gonna live forever just to spite yo-ACK!
- Copelord posting, colorized
Anonymous No.64385428 >>64386291 >>64387794
>>64385013
Reminded me of the dad's army episode with the gas van.

Now I want a Rusdian Dad's Army..

>Mister Jonesovich.. is that a drone I hear?
>Don't you worry Pikeyrovich, that's Comrade Mainwaringovich with the secret weapon!
>Secret weapon?
>Yes Pikeyrovich, with the secret weapon we will defeat those darn piggiewiggies!
>"okay lads gather round, here is the new secret weapon that HQ has send to us."
>oi thats just a burned out tank hull with an ukie outhouse taped on top!
>Silence! Who was that? Put the dick to his lips as punishment!
Anonymous No.64385473 >>64388884
>>64384085
>without analogues
You misspelled BEZ ANALOGOV there, buddy
Anonymous No.64385588
>>64384159
No, the beetle jeep (jeeple, if you will) is pretty rad.
Anonymous No.64385697 >>64385730
>>64383430
>>64383529
>>64383439
It all has to be done through:
distributed power
slave labor
redundant points of friction/propulsion
EVERY SINGLE THING BUT
Electric motor do it. Because they will never be good enough.
SEETHE.
Anonymous No.64385704
>>64383436
It's suitable for throwing in a bag and selling to potheads THANKS MEGA CROP FAGGOTS.
Anonymous No.64385710
>>64383589
I'm unclear as to why "send weapons" can ever be unreasonable.
Anonymous No.64385730
>>64385697
Speak English m8
Anonymous No.64385785
>>64383195
>when your local board hyperautist gets his wish
>it's a monkey's paw scenario
Anonymous No.64385793
>>64384500
Hi Norktard
Anonymous No.64385802
>>64384759
Good, the only thing a motor does is translate stored energy to using-energy. When EVs suck at one of these things... they suck at being a vehicle.
Anonymous No.64385825
>>64383652
>Well it certainly is true that Tolkien inserted some rather outdated and morally naive views in his work where, convnetienly, the blonde rich pale guys are all good and the downtrodden brown folk who are poor are to be killed without moral questioning. Ugly = evil is basically fascist theory on esthetics. It's a bit sad because he could write very well but came from a deeply problematic background has caused a lot of harm witb his views to literature and society and perpetual othering
I know that's bait but still. faggot
Anonymous No.64385930
>>64382892
Nerd.
Anonymous No.64386291 >>64386419
>>64385428
picrel
Anonymous No.64386394 >>64386817
>>64384205
some say puccians invented homosexuality as we know it
Anonymous No.64386419
>>64386291
>they dont like it up 'm comrade mainwaringovich!
>who and what corporal joneavich?
>the ukiewukies comrade mainwaringovich!
>shutup you old geezer, you havent had an erection in over 40 years!
>thats enough out of you walkerovich, report to the front lines on the double!
Anonymous No.64386450 >>64387114 >>64387175
>>64383652
Unironically they are correct browns have no sense of honor or virtue beyond what they signal to the surrounding community, they have no internal code to which they adhere and to the white man are objectively evil and selfish to a degree which most whites do not understand due to the alien nature of their thoughts and proclivities.

When a mudman is evil it is an animalistic evil which is based on hedonism and self indulgence. When the white man is evil it is mechanistic; he has set aside his morals and forsaken good in order to achieve a goal. Orcs and muds are animalistic and only dangerous because the hyper-white angel Sauron is organizing and directing them and his white lieutenants lead them. Like all evil white men Sauron became a tyrant out of loyalty to a preexisting cause or a desire to order the world into a more efficient and prosperous form believing the people would love him even in their slavery to him. Being thwarted repeatedly filled him with hate and by the natural decay of his virtue he forsakes his original motives and pursues Tyranny as an ideal in and of itself. He seeks to order the world not for the good of ruled but to aggrandize himself, and for a outright spergy need to micromanage all life to prove to himself he is the smartest and the greatest king in history. Only white men can be truly good and thus only they can fall to be truly evil, the rest are just animals following their base desires.

Also race be real, yo. You are the "other" by your very nature.
Anonymous No.64386455
>>64380020
Luka said he’s not gonna run for another term in Belarus - will he pine the Wect to support him as a moderate Putin replacement?
Anonymous No.64386472
>>64383448
Holy reddit
Anonymous No.64386481
>>64384534
>Can you afford to have 10 children?
I have five, if i want to live like a Gazan and save nothing for the future of those children I could have ten. Kids are cheap if you have no aspirations for them.
Anonymous No.64386817 >>64387862
>>64386394
We can't be sure of that but their capability in the field is truly without analog
Anonymous No.64386926 >>64387565
>>64385239
>>64385407
>>64384135
He said he will kill himself, but was wrong about that too.
Anonymous No.64386955
>>64384484
It's more like if you took a classic V8 muscle car and replaced the engine with a modern turbo 4 cylinder. It might make more power but it's just wrong, and in the plane's case it also completely ruins the classic aesthetics and makes it look retarded. (Almost like if you replaced all the front end bodywork with a shitty imitation of a new car.)
Anonymous No.64387114
>>64386450
You posted cringe anon
Anonymous No.64387175
>>64386450
Indeed, I always thought Saruman's white hand symbol was a bit on the nose, even moreso in the movies.
Perhaps the mythology and setting resonate so well with people because it speaks to so many long understood if unspoken truths
Anonymous No.64387193
>>64383679
But it is.
To focus on aesthetics over function is to fail.
You can make something that works that is pretty, but you should never make something pretty that doesn't.
Anonymous No.64387204
>>6438072
Thats what he's saying
Anonymous No.64387212 >>64387218
>>64384159
It's kind of suggaesque, so no it's very understandable.
But would you brave the Louisiana taiga mudroad in it visit nuclear battlecruiser?
That's the real question
Anonymous No.64387213 >>64387566
>>64379830
I don't care what anyone else says, I kinda like it.
Anonymous No.64387218
>>64387212
>the jeeple
Anonymous No.64387271 >>64387572
>>64379830
>>64384484
This isn't the worst thing yet. If you go into the Baikal plane project, that is the project of developing a new simple small plane to replace the aging An-2 fleet, you'll find even more retardation. They've spent 10+ years and billions of dollars, failed to develop a working plane, while also not being able to restart An-2 production. While chinks produce their An-2 without any issues.
Anonymous No.64387279
>>64384534
>Ask yourself how every Gazan man can afford to have 10 children
1. By not providing them the same living standards as you (or any other civilized person) assume kids need. It's not hard to make kids, despite what some incels would claim. It's hard to live good with kids wanting retarded levels of consumption.
2. By living on foreign gibs.
Anonymous No.64387487
>>64381578
Kek
Anonymous No.64387494
>>64379790 (OP)
yes yes 2 more weeks
Anonymous No.64387565
>>64386926
>He said he will kill himself
Fuck, so much for that idea.
Anonymous No.64387566
>>64387213
Anonymous No.64387572 >>64388903
>>64387271
>They've "spent" [...] billions of dollars
It's a feature, not a bug.
Anonymous No.64387794
>>64385428
>Dadovshchina's Army
Anonymous No.64387813
>>64381255
>your net income
Which is why they claim that their economy is "growing" by citing gross revenue and obfuscating the net revenue numbers.
Anonymous No.64387862 >>64388134
>>64386817
What the actual fuck?
Anonymous No.64387891
>>64379790 (OP)
>warmachine that's taken millions of men, and even millions more in Russia's money.

Gee Bill, I dunno. Could be a lack of literally EVERYTHING. Retard.
Anonymous No.64388001 >>64388003
>>64383169
If you think about it, the future is Hydrogen.

>You wouldn't need completely new fuel infrastructure, just replace all the gasoline and diesel pumps and tanks with Hydrogen ones.

>The by-product of Hydrogen combustion is water, which is where we get the Hydrogen from in the first place, so once the technology is advanced enough, we can get the vehicle's alternator to re-electrocute the water to separate the Oxygen and the Hydrogen to create a self-fuelling engine.

>Hydrogen engines and the fuel is beyond cheap compared to EV's once the technology has matured, since you can find some water or some kind pretty much anywhere on the planet

>Unlike EV cars, slight damage to the fuel cell won't cause a catastrophic runaway reaction that leads to the entire engine blowing up and creating a self-fuelling fire that lasts for a week straight unless you fully submerge or bury the vehicle

>The efficiency of the engine will remain constant, compared to an EV that is highly dependent on temperature and quickly declines after years of use. Meanwhile, a vehicle with a hydrogen engine that can go 100 miles on a sunny day can do the same when it's snowing five years later on the same engine.

>EV's require multiple rare earth metals to create, which means they rely on a global supply that makes them very susceptible to disruption when crises happen in one or more countries, whilst a hydrogen engine shares most components with a standard combustion engine, with most of changes coming from burning a gas rather than liquid fuel; which allows for full domestic production of the engine.

EV's are just the AI for the car world. They're big and trendy now, because all the big tech guys and corporations are shilling it, but give it 10 years after bubble bursts and the more practical solutions will come out on top.
Anonymous No.64388003
>>64388001
Hydrogen is unironically the future, but it's how a few engineering challenges between it and wide adoption
Anonymous No.64388042
>>64385195
The trouble comes when you have to leave an urban environment with easy access to electricity.
Space rovers get away with it because they only have to move a few feet a week and spend the rest of the time doing low-power tests. Going out into the countryside or trying to do long-distance trips is going to be a massive pain in the ass, as the fuel cells are going to have to become small enough that you can change them yourself without going into a specialist garage or bring a generator with you to charge the car either on the go or during rest stops.
Anonymous No.64388108
>>64385173
The trouble with oil estimations is that it's based on what oil is easily available and not the amount we know actually exists. Once the easily obtainable oil runs out, we will still have the option of extracting the oil that was, either for ethical or economic, not exploited before.

One of the most interesting debates at the moment is whether or not we should invest in large-scale deep sea mining, where we basically strip mine the ocean floor to get at the goodies farted out by underwater volcanoes and stuff that was washed down rivers/eroded from cliffs/sank in a Spanish galleon. The profit margins for countries with a cost could be massive, whilst also providing more jobs in a career that could support families for generations like coal mines used to. It could also ease the burden on poorer third-world countries if it turns out that rare metals are a lot more common than we realised and would stop so many people fucking with them to keep them down and broken to make exploiting them easier. Of course, the environmental damage from the operations is going to be significant, and we know so little about the deep ocean that there's no way to even begin to know how catastrophic the consequences could be. We need those rare metals for our technology and our all-devouring hunger for microchips and fuel cells; but is that worth the risk of killing the ocean and the vast majority of life on our planet with it?

This, and what we do with an unfrozen Antarctica, which is going to be a geopolitical clusterfuck of biblical proportions, are going to be the biggest environmental questions the next few generations are going to have to find answers to.
Anonymous No.64388134
>>64387862
>What the fuck
Just the purest expression of mysterious russian soul
Anonymous No.64388155
>>64384333
Anon, only the rich fly. Everyone else just takes the train. The vast majority of people wouldn't even notice if their civilian fleet just stopped existing.
Anonymous No.64388209
>>64380425
Anonymous No.64388241
>>64384159
I have good news, Anon.

https://youtu.be/zUwDCy-Sfhs
Anonymous No.64388804
>>64379790 (OP)
Can the Russian aviation industry even develop new military engines?
Anonymous No.64388873
>>64379790 (OP)
I dont see why theyd do that especially in these times. Do they have a russian source on this? How did they figure this out?
Anonymous No.64388878 >>64389837 >>64391291
>>64383169
>Literally anyone with a modicum of knowledge about cars will tell you otherwise
You've been fed troon logic, bro. Not only modern ICE are way more efficient that the numbers you think, but the fundamental issue is that you're thinking about it wrong.

First, you do get a ton of "free" work due to the "inefficient" nature of ICEs, work which you actually want. That heating running? That's free work you get. That AC you're running? Also "free" (not really, but still) work. There's a reason why most EVs decimate their range once you have to either run AC or heat up the car.

But that's not even the tip of the iceberg. The fundamental issue is that with ICEs you're pumping fuel into your gas tank and make energy in your engine inside your car via a chemical reaction using the fuel in your tank _and the air from the atmosphere_, i.e. you bring fuel and you get the oxidizer for free from the air, both then interact to produce energy right here and now for you. While in the case of typical battery EVs you're not taking fuel with you, you're taking the resulting energy which got produced elsewhere and have to haul it. This is fundamentally inefficient overall. You need proof? Well, look up energy density of gasoline (~12,000 Wh/kg) vs LiPo batteries (~200 Wh/kg) - yes, it's more than 50x (fifty times) better. Hence why a typical car with 50 liter gas tank can fuck even the premium EVs with hundreds of kilograms of battery in range without breaking a sweat and don't get their range decimated by turning on the heat or AC.

So yeah, even if ICEs are "only 30% efficient", you actually work with way more efficient processes overall, while with EVs on paper you have insane efficiency, however IRL the car struggles to reach basic bitch ranges of casual ICE shitboxes. Because you the "30% efficiency" of ICEs in _energy generation_ get compared EV's "90% efficiency" of _energy transfer_. Notice the difference here.
Anonymous No.64388884
>>64385473
the cool kids use the "ANALOGOVNET" term, or "ANALO GOVNET" for added emotional damage
Anonymous No.64388903
>>64387572
Yes and no, they did want the plane, but they've failed. Not because of corruption itself, corruption is just a force of nature there, an act of god, built into the system. Corruption should've just made the project more expensive, but even making it 10x or 20x more expensive should've still resulted in them making the plane. But there's no plane. Not because the money got stolen. But because of the state of modern russia:
- hubris;
- unsubstantiated ambitions;
- lack of modesty with plans;
- lack of any reality checks;
- lack of honesty;
- lack of efficiency;
- general lack of a single vision, soviet-tier "I did my job right, not my problem";
- general issue with culture of manufacturing;
- general culture of lying;
- etc, etc, etc;

So yeah, instead of cloning the old plane with some modern improvements, which should've been easy and straight forward, and concentrating on actual production, setting up servicing for the planes and so on they've spent most of their resources on trying to create a "cool modern ANALOGOVNET" shitbox, with composite and shit. Stumbled and fumbled every step possible. For example, the R&D faggots using foreign composites, while the actual manufacturers being forced to use domestic composites, which SURPRISE-SURPRISE sucked ass and didn't have the necessary characteristics, resulting the plane breaking under basic load. Why do you even need composites for a fuckin' "cheap flying minivan" (that's what an AN-2 is)? Because it's cool, modern and ANALOGOVNET.
Hence you have 10+ years wasted, billions of dollars wasted and no actual planes.
Anonymous No.64389057 >>64389418
>>64380425
Fucking Prigozhin shouldn't have pussied out.
We would've had this right now
Anonymous No.64389418
>>64389057
He was dealing with forces beyond his comprehension.
Anonymous No.64389498 >>64389586
>>64383589
>mfw I realize I have fucked up
Anonymous No.64389586
>>64389498
I don't know the context for these picrels.
Anonymous No.64389837
>>64388878
Did you get so worked up you started typing in discord format?
Anonymous No.64391174
>>64380093
at this point they're barely even a green water navy
Anonymous No.64391291 >>64391340
>>64388878
>That heating running? That's free work you get. That AC you're running? Also "free" (not really, but still) work.
Possibly the most retarded post I've read in a week.
Anonymous No.64391340
>>64391291
That Anon's not entirely wrong, as a combustion engine produces heat as a by-product of just running, so some cars, mostly older and cheap ones, will just pipe that excess heat into the car as a means heating the car up. Some minivans and coaches that run on diesel have a system where they will just squirt diesel into, or onto, the hot exhaust to act as a ghetto AC when things get cold. You'll know if it has that system if you stand next to the vehicle and you can feel a hot draft coming from underneath it. You should then walk away as quickly as you can, because there's no AdBlue in that shit to make the particulates stick to the ground, so they are just gassing themselves and everyone within a dozen yards downwind of them. It's stupid, but the Eastern Europeans love them because they are cheap, you can install them yourself and if you are not expecting to live past 60 anyway, you don't really care about that whole cancer thing.

If an EV engine produces heat when it's running, that's when you should start running too, because the cooling system has failed and you've now got a few 100kg incendiary bomb in the process of cooking off in your hands.