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Anonymous No.64387850 >>64387857 >>64387890 >>64387898 >>64387986 >>64388069 >>64388214 >>64388243 >>64388321 >>64388505 >>64388566 >>64388622 >>64388770 >>64390094 >>64391192 >>64397016 >>64400524
Russia to Begin Production of New T-90M2 Ryvok-1 Tank in 2026
>https://militarnyi.com/en/news/russia-to-begin-production-of-new-t-90m2-ryvok-1-tank-in-2026/
Anonymous No.64387857 >>64387865 >>64391255
>>64387850 (OP)
Is that the version with a second gearbox for (symmetrical) reversing? If they remove that then they're fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.64387858 >>64388533
Anonymous No.64387865 >>64387883 >>64391255
>>64387857
That was never a feature on the T-90Ms.
Anonymous No.64387872 >>64388776
>D...daddy. What about me?
Anonymous No.64387877 >>64390115
How will the reduction of workdays in the tank factories impact the delivery of these tanks?
Anonymous No.64387880 >>64388815
Not very impressive numbers, but at least they'll already have over a hundred Armatas by 2026.
Anonymous No.64387883
>>64387865
I'm talking about the new variant they trialed recently, but one thing is a prototype and another is a (planned) "production", of course that the old M and the wartime M (same version but lacking some parts) doesn't have it.
Anonymous No.64387890
>>64387850 (OP)
>Russia to Begin Production
kekkkk
Anonymous No.64387892
impressiev
Anonymous No.64387898 >>64387907 >>64387911 >>64387917 >>64391343
>>64387850 (OP)
What's different about this one compared to the bog standard T-90?
Anonymous No.64387901
This time with Temu components!
Anonymous No.64387907
>>64387898
Downgraded electronics and sights I bet.
Anonymous No.64387911
>>64387898
it has a new number therefore its better!
Anonymous No.64387917 >>64387940 >>64388239
>>64387898
https://www.google.com/amp/s/defence-blog.com/russia-prepares-to-build-new-t-90m2-tanks/%3famp

>The papers outline specific technical aims for the T-90M2 upgrade. Engineers are said to be revising the fighting compartment and addressing a long-standing mechanical issue by refining the transmission and adding a reverse gear. The modernization also includes the installation of larger video-observation displays, described in the documents as panels โ€œwith a diagonal of not less than 38 cmโ€ to improve crew situational awareness. Frontelligence Insight adds that โ€œa similar fighting compartment is planned to be installed on the T-80.โ€

This is on top of the upgrades the T-90M Proryv-3 brought.
Anonymous No.64387940 >>64388031 >>64388378 >>64391114
>>64387917
So STILL no fix to the carousel of death? Kek what a bunch of fucking retards. Even the Ukrainians managed to come up with a bustle mounted autoloader. Ziggers tongue my anus.
Anonymous No.64387979
>new t-72
Anonymous No.64387986 >>64388009 >>64388526
>>64387850 (OP)
>STILL -4 KM/H
just use the t80 at this point
Anonymous No.64388009 >>64388019 >>64388060
>>64387986
They can't. Losstech is lost.
Anonymous No.64388019
>>64388009
lost archeotech
Anonymous No.64388031
>>64387940
Nigga just don't get hit.
Anonymous No.64388059
Are they finally making new hulls?
Anonymous No.64388060 >>64388216 >>64388483 >>64389002
>>64388009
Weren't the t80 made in Omsk?
So, what's the problem then?
Anonymous No.64388069 >>64388072 >>64388622 >>64399238
>>64387850 (OP)
Having a tank beats no tank. Barely. Tanks are still useful but getting less useful every year. We've known since early 2024 Russia was planning to set aside or build a reserve of 800 tanks for the post-war and this is confirmation.
Anonymous No.64388072
>>64388069
>Tanks are still useful but getting less useful every year.
if this was true US should ship 2000 Abrams and 1000 Paladins now before they go out of style and become worthless
Anonymous No.64388214
>>64387850 (OP)
The age-old unanswered question rears its head again.
Are the Russians building new hulls?
I would wager that these "new" T-90M2's being built are using hulls from storage.
Anonymous No.64388216
>>64388060
The city had been neglecting its obligations; the bird took many things from them as recompense.
Anonymous No.64388239 >>64388444
>>64387917
>refining the transmission and adding a reverse gear
>adding a reverse gear
supposedly to address the abysmal performance of the existing reverse gear?
Anonymous No.64388243
>>64387850 (OP)
>Russia to Begin Production of New T-90M2 Ryvok-1 Tank in 2026
Fast forward into late 2026, the start of production is delayed to 2028.
And in 2029 it is silently buried and never existed you russiphobe
Anonymous No.64388291
>Ziggers keep trying to troll western tanks for not having anti-drone systems
>Ziggers 'claim' 'new' T90 model
>no anti-drone systems
Anonymous No.64388321
>>64387850 (OP)
ะธะผะฟpeccะธะฒะฝoe
Anonymous No.64388378 >>64388451 >>64390797
>>64387940
Allegedly ziggers already had a fix in the 90's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Eagle_(tank)
Anonymous No.64388444 >>64388778
>>64388239
They literally can't, they're using the same BKP transmission units as found on the T-64 to this day. The Ukrainians put a transfer case in the final drive of their T-84 Oplot to get around the abysmal reverse speed (which is also the lowest gear to help pull out other tanks, which is why it is so damn slow because ARVs are for capitalist pigdogs) of the BKP but they're running up against growth limits as to what the suspension and drivetrain can handle. The T-84 descends from the T-80UD so this should say a lot more about how growth limited the T-90s are given they're T-72 hulls.
Anonymous No.64388451 >>64388457
>>64388378
dude lmao they cancelled the stretched hull T-80 that the BE was. Omsk died from starving to death from poverty while UVZ was given free BJs every day for being the favored retardo-child of Russia.
>Every time a better design comes up, down to being just slightly higher cost at significantly higher capability, it gets axed and UVZ gets free reign to make shit instead
>Ever since the Cold War era USSR
>To this very fucking day
Anonymous No.64388457 >>64388480 >>64388995
>>64388451
In the aviation space, is there one company that gets favorite-child status?
Anonymous No.64388480 >>64397425 >>64399104 >>64400018
>>64388457
Suckhoi sure fucked MiG over after the UAC merger at worst but they don't compare to the immensely egregious favored 'tard child status of Uralvagonzavod.

I was surprised Mil didn't fuck Kamov over in UAC given how many Ka-52s were picked over the abomination that is the Mi-28 and "third crew rescue spot" aka the empty space in the tail.
>lol wut nightfighting capability
>lol wut all weather capability
>maybe you can get that if you buy the super duper ultra mi-28n+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++obr2010
So the helicopter space isn't as retarded. That and Kurganmashzavod is kind of the only game in town for IFVs but my god does UVZ have a death grip on the Kremlin for being able to shit out slopware.
Anonymous No.64388483
>>64388060
The Kazakhs poisoned the wind.
Anonymous No.64388505 >>64391865
>>64387850 (OP)
>Wake up, babe. New Panzer IV Ausf. J just dropped.
Anonymous No.64388526
>>64387986
They're already suffering enough fuel shortages as is.
Anonymous No.64388533
>>64387858
>2026
>10
That's all we're ever going to see and they'll roll right off the line and into a kill zone.
Anonymous No.64388566
>>64387850 (OP)
They can't even afford to sleeve up the gun?
Anonymous No.64388622 >>64388722
>>64387850 (OP)
No they are not.
>>64388069
>Russia was planning to set aside or build a reserve of 800 tanks for the post-war
Anon, the tanks they mentioned for the 800 were T-62Ms. There is one *minor* thing about T-62 production that differs compared to any other Soviet tank post USSR. Can you guess what it is?
Anonymous No.64388722 >>64388787
>>64388622
>coy reddit shit
Slap yourself for assuming everyone is as stupid as you are. They said one kind of tank, now they're doing another kind. That doesn't mean they don't want tanks, midwit.
Anonymous No.64388770 >>64391134
>>64387850 (OP)
>Leopard 2A6 at home
Anonymous No.64388776 >>64390311 >>64391232
>>64387872
>Massive armor on the front
>No armor on the roof or back
Made with cold war in mind as every other "future tank" project
I fear the French and German equivalents are also suffering from this, ultra expensive heavy tanks that would on paper demolish any other tank or boots if only drones didnt exist
Anonymous No.64388778
>>64388444
They only had the space to do so in the T-84 because they swapped out the engine too.
Anonymous No.64388787
>>64388722
The point is T-62s are the only ones still in production (outside of Russia) for 3 decades which anyone with even the slightest knowledge of the subject is aware of. It has been discussed dozens of times on /k/ which anyone who didn't just show up from reddit would know.
Anonymous No.64388815 >>64388883 >>64391277 >>64393621
>>64387880
2026 is in two months bro
where the fuck are the Armatas lmao
Anonymous No.64388883
>>64388815
2026 is of long year tovarish, many time left )))
Anonymous No.64388995 >>64391141
>>64388457
Suck-Hoi is that company. To the point that when they wanted to make a new cool and modern civilian plane (what became the SSJ-100) they've created a civilian suckhoy company to spearhead the project instead of having their more appropriate companies like Tupolev, Ilyushin or Yakovlek handling it.
Anonymous No.64389002
>>64388060
The Omsk factory died, UVZ was kept on life support.
Anonymous No.64390094
>>64387850 (OP)
>Russia to Begin Production of New
stopped reading right there
Anonymous No.64390115 >>64391011 >>64391140
>>64387877
I'm sure everything is fine
Anonymous No.64390295 >>64390357
People here doesn't understand that Russia has the largest tankites deposits in the world, they can literally mine tankitenite-72 and smelt a T-90 after adding some additional raw materials.
Anonymous No.64390311 >>64390357
>>64388776
It's impossible to armor against drones, they need to be handled with other methods.
Anonymous No.64390357 >>64391421 >>64400018
>>64390295
Its been a slow downhill slide into shit tankites ever since they exhausted the stalinium reserves

>>64390311
Drones are not great
But no ones managed to find anything that works against the last generations of top-attack munitions and they will turn most everything into a busted unit. More importantly the drones enjoy dominance in a relatively static environment when they can set up, maintain high levels of battlefield observation and intelligence to respond. But if you're dealing with a force on the hop that's moving fast and needs a seeing to, you want the top-attack munitions on that kind of scale to deal with them.
Assuming of course you don't have arty + air to help on the more macro-level of countering armoured movement
Anonymous No.64390797 >>64391321 >>64391334
>>64388378
That was literally just a wooden mockup with no engineering performed and the funds embezzled. The Ukrainians actually developed working vehicles, pic related.
Anonymous No.64391011 >>64391161
>>64390115
Nome has another diphteria epidemic?
Anonymous No.64391114 >>64391153 >>64391196 >>64391208 >>64391426 >>64391430 >>64392713
>>64387940
>NO BUT OUR AUTO-LOADER SAVES US ROOM AND A CREWMEMBER AND IS SUPER EFFECTIVE
Them still fielding this fucking death trap just goes to show that soviet and by extension russian engineering is fucking shit.

I still remember that video from the first year of the war, before everyone went on about "muh drones" where we saw a T-something-M engage from an overhead drone footage
>T-something rolls up from behind cover/defilade
>Fire a single shot from main cannon,
>Jerking motion while tank shifts to reverse
>Backs out like it's a fucking truck into the loading bay
>Get hit in the side by the ATGM and just fucking evaporates while the turret is tossed out of frame
Even with all their ERA and jammers and other bullshit tacked on you can't overcome that retarded design flaw.
Anonymous No.64391124
Russians told me that it's better to attack with fast bikes and civilian cars so why are they wasting money on refurbishing tanks?
Anonymous No.64391134
>>64388770
Kek, they could only whish
Anonymous No.64391140 >>64391149 >>64391285
>>64390115
Nice. How much ะบiะฑะฑle to the mile?
Anonymous No.64391141
>>64388995
I always wondered why in recent years we only ever see new Sukhoi variants appear while MiGs are basically gone and Yak is downgraded to making trainers.
Anonymous No.64391149 >>64391285
>>64391140
I don't know if you have to actually feed Russian dogs, normally they just get let loose and run around the nearest park eating pensioners and women
Anonymous No.64391153 >>64391182 >>64391375 >>64392091
>>64391114
What's insane is that already back in the fucking Soviet era the Ukrainians (Kharkiv) were already pushing for ammo to be stored in a separate bulkhead. The T64 was Ukrainian (Malyshev) and higher performance and was considered too complex so the Russian (Ural) T62 was the mainstay of the USSR. Later the Russian T80 (Omsk) was developed from the T64 but with a gas turbine engine. This too was considered too complex for mass production, so the Russian (Ural) T72 became the mainline tank of the USSR and was much much lower performance. The T72 was designed as a secondary tank, the low in a high low mix. The Ukrainian T80UD (Malyshev) with a boxer 12 cylinder engine instead of the gas turbine was to be the mass produced higher spec vehicle but the Russians just decided to spam more and more and more lower performance T72s and their variants. The T90 is just a T72 upgrade. It's actually lower performance than the T80/T80UD. The Ukrainians developed the T80UD into the T84 which is higher spec than the T90. Russians ALWAYS go for the cheap low spec version and hope they can just spam it. They simply don't fucking understand that simply having a bigger number of things doesn't mean that they will win. They can't comprehend that sometimes quality does beat quantity.
Anonymous No.64391161 >>64391185 >>64391281
>>64391011
>Blyato
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64391182 >>64391339 >>64398869 >>64399049
>>64391153
As a reminder: The T-62 design was rejected because the USSR thought that idea of a basic improvement over the T-55 that could be upgraded in the future with a bigger gun or turret was a dumb idea. The USSR also hated the T-62 because it could not fit a autoloader.

Almost 80 years later T-62s are still being made while it has been 3 decades since any other Soviet based design has been produced. The DPRK makes more tanks and tank hulls than Russia and have done so for 30 years, the T-62 design has been completely and totally vindicated.

It is pathetic that it has taken Russia since 1961 to realize the reality of modern armored warfare.
Anonymous No.64391185
>>64391161
>his whites are yellow
>melanin
Oh fug, he black yo.
Anonymous No.64391192
>>64387850 (OP)
>new tank
>look inside
>crusty old hull refurbished with extra shit on top
>same old underpowered engine
>same old tanker space program certified ammo carousel
>armata memoryholed
life as a russian is a constant humiliation
Anonymous No.64391196 >>64391201 >>64391375 >>64392713
>>64391114
So many memories...
You made me think of this one.
Anonymous No.64391201 >>64391210 >>64391212 >>64391223 >>64391405
>>64391196
this one is legit my favorite
Anonymous No.64391208 >>64391210 >>64391375 >>64392713 >>64396976
>>64391114
I'm quite partial to this one, personally
Anonymous No.64391210
>>64391208
Yeah that's the classic LIVE T90 REACTION
>>64391201
I lol'd, thank you.
Such a majestic explosion
Anonymous No.64391212 >>64391433
>>64391201
Fucking hell that's got to be the turret toss gold medalist
Anonymous No.64391223
>>64391201
>here is your reactive explodium blocks
Russian vs turkish and ukro but not the West No.64391232 >>64391288 >>64391413 >>64399955
>>64388776
You are spouting quite a number of liรฉs and crap

>French and German equivalents are also suffering from this

Firstly, there are no german and specially no French tanks deployed in this war.
But they are many turkish tanks deployed directly from the turkish depots made in Germany, that are suffering losses the turkish regime's own inability in Warfare.

So to hide the turkish's weakness, you shift the blame on the Western manufacturers or attempt to drag other, who are strong, at the same level on military's idiocy.

When the turkish are beaten by the Kurdish freedom fighters and other, |they also tried to blame on the German patreons but this was debunked; the fucking equipment was good, but the one who deployed it, the ridiculous and disgusting turkish regime, was bad at war and they clumsy.

>only drones didnt exist
Nope, the mediocres turkish drones are shot down and hold no utility on |the Battlefield. They are not the future and you wouldn't think about darling claiming the opposite if putin wasn't an moron who dowgraded his own military's offensive capabilities and mislead, took some idiotic decisions and didn't deployed his infantry properly.
Anonymous No.64391255
>>64387857
>>64387865
>"The papers outline specific technical aims for the T-90M2 upgrade. Engineers are said to be revising the fighting compartment and addressing a long-standing mechanical issue by refining the transmission and adding a reverse gear. "
Anonymous No.64391277
>>64388815
Maybe they meant the Islamic calendar?
Anonymous No.64391281
>>64391161
kek
Anonymous No.64391285 >>64391458
>>64391140
>>64391149
Remember when they said the cube was food for a dog kennel?
Anonymous No.64391288 >>64391347
>>64391232
>Firstly, there are no german and specially no French tanks deployed in this war.
nta but aren't leopards german?
Anonymous No.64391321
>>64390797
Lazerpig can you kindly fuck off. You thought a fucking straight 4 car engine made more torque than a supercharged V12 tank engine.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64391334 >>64391344 >>64391397
>>64390797
Is this Lazerpig person perhaps a Russian shill?
Anonymous No.64391339 >>64391361 >>64391448
>>64391182
You are the most cancerous fucking cunt on this board and I hope you legit get dismembered by glowies for shilling bullshit for a foreign power when WW3 comes around
Anonymous No.64391343
>>64387898
This one's imaginary. Can't beat a tank with the power of ether behind it.
Anonymous No.64391344 >>64391361
>>64391334
he's a fat bong faggot
Anonymous No.64391347
>>64391288
monkey models lie the turk ones the kurds blew up with tows.
Norktard !5PczJ/8PMc No.64391361 >>64391369 >>64391424
>>64391344
Well that is worse than being Russian shill. That is being so boring as a bong that i can't figure out how to care enough to manufacture a fake conflict for /k/'s amusement. How disappointing he must be to the UK.

Carry on.

>>64391339
Quite bold of you to assume i'm not the Glowie and you are not the enemy we are after.
Anonymous No.64391369 >>64391392
>>64391361
SS Div. Schweiz
Anonymous No.64391375 >>64391870
>>64391153
>They can't comprehend that sometimes quality does beat quantity.
There's a point to be made that a lot of shit will overwhelm high quality gear. Especially in the instance of armored warfare, but it all kind of goes to shit if you don't have the logistics to back it up and on top of that your adversaries managed to create top-attack missile and other ATGM's which turn a single penetrating hit from disastrous to right out catastrophic. Once that totally unprotected carousel get hit youโ€™re fucked.

I still like how some videogames like to pretend the T-series are hot shit, meanwhile weโ€™ve seen Western tanks take multiple hits and eventually cook-off. Any penetrating hit on the side of a T-series tanks shows them blowing up instead. Real fucking telling.
>>64391196
>>64391208
Is it just me or are videos of T-series showing how crappy the drivers and/or transmission is with them jerking about. Pretty sure most Western armoured vehicles don't behave this way (or I am just biased in footage).
Anonymous No.64391392 >>64391431 >>64391448 >>64391459
>>64391369
I'm pretty sure norktard has shared enough of his origin story for you to work out how he became norktarded, from college through to exceeding his annual dose of norkery many times over. Normal people don't have a day job where they have to immerse themselves in so much nork bullshit that they develop stockholm syndrome and start unironucally juching.
Anonymous No.64391397
>>64391334
He was bumming some Russian dude back in the day. Make of that what you will
Anonymous No.64391405
>>64391201
What was that shit barn packed full of, artillery shells? They didn't seriously fill those mobile sheds up with a full ammo load did they?
Anonymous No.64391413 >>64391856
>>64391232
I can't tell if this is some next level yuro seethe or if it's the latest cope.
Anonymous No.64391421 >>64391473 >>64391670 >>64391835
>>64390357
โ€œPeople here donโ€™t understand that Russia has the largest tankite deposits in the world,โ€ the old engineer said, coughing diesel fumes through his respirator. โ€œWe mine it raw from the Ural strata โ€” Tankitenite-72, shimmering under the frost like frozen oil. You can smell the steel in it.โ€

In the year 3045, the Earth is long divided into Resource Domains, each fighting over the last usable veins of weaponized minerals. The Americans lost their Freedomite seams during the Silicon Collapse. Europeโ€™s Democracium cracked under austerity. But in the East, deep beneath the ruins of Chelyabinsk, Russia still digs โ€” and refines.

Their foundries hum day and night, fed by the sacred ore: Tankitenite. Smelted with rare elements like Vodkium, Scrapite, and the last traces of Stalinium โ€” the mythical metal once believed extinct after the Great Purge of Alloys.

They say only the T-Forge Priests remember the process of true Stalinium refinement. They wear boilerplate cassocks and carry relic torque wrenches, chanting:

โ€œThrough pressure, through heat, through glorious overengineering โ€” we resurrect the machine!โ€

But the truth is grim. The pure veins are gone. Modern tanks roll off the lines built of shit tankites โ€” brittle, flammable, and haunted by the ghosts of unpaid factory workers. Their turrets jam. Their tracks crumble. Yet the propaganda still calls them invincible.

Deep underground, in the secret mines of Novouralsk, the last unrefined chunk of pure Stalinium lies encased in concrete, guarded by the Iron Commissars. Legends say that when Russia truly falters, it will be melted down to forge one final tank โ€” the Tsar of Armor, the T-โˆž โ€” whose engine will run not on fuel, but on patriotism itself.

CAPTCHA: YAK2K
Build this.
Anonymous No.64391424
>>64391361
>Well that is worse than being Russian shill
There is nothing worse than a russian shill, even the most vile vegan pajeet troon faggot isn't as bad as a russian shill
Anonymous No.64391426 >>64391872 >>64392713 >>64397396 >>64399218 >>64399964 >>64400018
>>64391114
this one? I think it was a tank-on-tan shootout.
Anonymous No.64391429
[__][_[:]
Anonymous No.64391430 >>64391442
>>64391114
It's not the carousel that fucks the tank up. It's that the fucking fuel tanks are full of ammo (yes really) and are all over the compartment. Oh and they're also made of TNT-impregnated PAPER.
Anonymous No.64391431 >>64391448
>>64391392
no, it's a reference to Kim going to a Swiss school
Anonymous No.64391433 >>64391581
>>64391212
There have been higher and longer ones, believe it or not. But this one is still in the top 10.
Anonymous No.64391442 >>64391466 >>64400018
>>64391430
The problem really is the loose ammo around the compartment. If an enemy round is able to punch through your front glacis,through the gun breach, and through the corousel and hit the wet stowage fuel tank, you were fucked long before that. The big issue is the loose stuff around the turret. The commander is literally sitting on two loose propelent charges. The gunner has shells strapped right next to his head - there are shells right on the back of the turret wall. The carousel is too low for a direct hit, if the tank crew is good and knows how to hide the lower hull. Retards bitch about the Leo2 having it's stoage at the front of the hull, but they forget it's part of the german army doctrine - the ammo is behind the most heavilly deffended part of the tank, and it was expected the the crew wouuld know to hide the hull behind berms, or in tank positions - it was assumed that Germany would be on the deffensive.
Anonymous No.64391448 >>64391459
>>64391431
>>64391392 was meant for the author of >>64391339
Anonymous No.64391458
>>64391285
Its really not that far fetched that they'd feed dead mobiks to wild dogs, Russian cities are places where people not irregularly get chewed up by roving bands of mutts. Old folks, small children and women mostly can get set upon and mauled, sometimes to death.
They do fulfill a similar function in the Ukraine ecosystem by now. You killed or chased away Mr Mittens and Scruffy's owner, now 'you are feeding them'
Anonymous No.64391459
>>64391448
>>64391392
You're a fucking faggot who's attached his personality to a garbage third world dumpster nations failed MIC and 70 year outdated system and invented a fake persona for yourself on a Nihon no kuso keiji boodo. Your waifu is a limpwristed talentless bug faced nepo juchegarch latching on to a dead ideology who your pathetic low test cock will never meet. A /k/ tankie.
Anonymous No.64391466
>>64391442
>the ammo is behind the most heavilly deffended part of the tank
hull storage is dangerous because it is a potential threat from almost any angle of attack
a penetrating frontal hit will lose most of its energy punching through the thick armor, so if the ammo is in the way of the degraded round, then it could cause what would have been an M-kill into a K-kill

attacks from the side will likely hit the hull rather than the turret, its less well protected than the turret and its larger
so its more likely to be targeted, more likely to be hit, and more likely to be penetrated

the only place where hull storage is safe is from a total-rear attack, but these constitute a minority of engagement angles
Anonymous No.64391473
>>64391421
Essentially Russian's are Chaos Dwarfs ruling their Orky slaves down in the pits. Isolated and sanctioned by Sensible Dwarfs out of conventional markets, the best they can do is flog off their nasty gear to their neighbouring degenerate species for more slaves, gold and other nasty, sinful objects.
The rest is chaos-engines
>how does it work?
>fucked if I know, it blows things up, sometimes it blows up
>that's why there's no refunds, warranty or training!
Anonymous No.64391581
>>64391433
>It doesn't even medal
Well damn... This is my fault for not paying closer attention to the vatnigger space program
Anonymous No.64391670
>>64391421
kek
Anonymous No.64391835 >>64392180
>>64391421
Yakovlev Yak-2000 confirmed
Anonymous No.64391856
>>64391413
Seems to me just some retard obsessed with turks for some reason.
Anonymous No.64391865
>>64388505
Kek. Underrated post.
Anonymous No.64391870
>>64391375
Russia made a big deal out of having a tank that can turn on the spot without driving forward like 6 months ago
Anonymous No.64391872 >>64391916 >>64397396
>>64391426
the falling guy always gets me
Anonymous No.64391916
>>64391872
Daily reminder that the KV-1S (1942) was the soviet tank with fastest reverse until the Oplot/PT-91/72M4CZ and it's still faster than any current russian tank in service.
>if you ignore the "tanks" based on the BMD-3/4 chassis
Anonymous No.64392091 >>64399020
>>64391153

Ukraine vs Russia in tech development was always present, wasnโ€™t it?
Anonymous No.64392180
>>64391835
Anonymous No.64392412 >>64392533 >>64392536 >>64392625
So, how do Ukraine tanks of their own design fare against Moscowvite ones?
Anonymous No.64392533 >>64392610
>>64392412
Time has shown that soviet/russian shit can be good as long as it isn't used/maintained by the russians. Take that however you want.
Anonymous No.64392536 >>64392610
>>64392412
>The Ukrainian Ground Forces reportedly had 6 T-84 in service as of 2021
Not enough to really make a difference. Thailand has more but they don't really face any opposition. Cambodia only has T-55.
The T-64BV Zr. 2017 seem to work alright but it's still only a T-64.
Anonymous No.64392610 >>64392625 >>64392698
>>64392533
>>64392536

Iโ€™m talking about the T-84 and the variants of it, exclusive to Ukraine, versus its Russian foes.
Anonymous No.64392625 >>64392723
>>64392412
>>64392610
The T-84 isn't an indigenous design, it's built on a T-80 hull.
Anonymous No.64392698
>>64392610
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html
Since there's little evidence of them getting damaged or destroyed, they likely didn't field them in bigger numbers.
Anonymous No.64392713
>>64391114
Imagine. Just imagine hating on the carousel of fun.
>>64391196
>>64391208
>>64391426
Look at what we could have lost. This alone makes this timeline worthwhile.
Anonymous No.64392723 >>64393600
>>64392625
> it's built on a T-80 hull.
on a T-80UD that is a T-64 modified for a larger engine and compatible with the T-80U standard.
Anonymous No.64393600
>>64392723

What about the Oplot and Yatagan? How do they compare?
Anonymous No.64393621 >>64396757
>>64388815
Igor pocketed the parts
Anonymous No.64396757
>>64393621
Must have been big pockets, desu
Anonymous No.64396976 >>64396989
>>64391208
Easily the best. Giant explosion, followed by smoke revealing a picture perfect wreck of a T-90 like you'd find in Battlefield 3 or 4. Kino.
Anonymous No.64396989
>>64396976
A vatnik had a meltdown on en.wiki to permanently delete that pic from the article "Jack-in-the-box effect"
Anonymous No.64397016
>>64387850 (OP)
Still waiting on those 2-3k Armata tanks Armatard promised us Russia will have in 2020.
Anonymous No.64397327 >>64397345
>2025 the Russian at k can now neutral steer

Thatโ€™s Like a jeet Bragging about being able to use the toilet
Anonymous No.64397345 >>64398813
>>64397327
Not neutral steer, they just added a reverser, the steering system (multiple fixed turning radius) remains unchanged.
Anonymous No.64397396
>>64391426
>>64391872
I remember when some ziggers posted a video of a couple of lost Ukie vehicles at the same spot, acting all smug and all, but then everyone started making fun of them because you could still see the hole in the roof. Wish I had saved that one.
Anonymous No.64397425 >>64399037
>>64388480
>"third crew rescue spot"

self recovery of downed pilots is actually really useful, which is why there is an official way to strap a nigga to the outside of an apache and also prototyped exint pods for the harrier
Anonymous No.64398813
>>64397345
Thatโ€™s even more pathetic
Anonymous No.64398869 >>64399424 >>64400034 >>64400038
>>64391182
Except they were completely correct in that the T-62 design was a dead end due to the choice of gun caliber compared to the T-55. A higher performance and penetration 100mm gun and rounds were right around the corner and out performed the T-62โ€™s 115mm up to the current day. The 115 is an awkward middle child and the T-62 while an improvement over the contemporary T-55 is inferior to the T-64 on every technical level. It still has an ammunition cook off problem as the ammo is stored directly behind the driver. It has less powerful engines. It has less visibility. It has a fucking awful shell ejection system too. Not to mention a lack of composite armor.

Nork copies (Chonma-Ho) arenโ€™t really that good either, with inferior composite armor on the later models and while itโ€™s impressive they got as much out of the design as they did (itโ€™s also often inferior to the T-62 baseline, not even the M, Nork copies have thinner armor and worse optics than the Russian ones) itโ€™s telling their current designs are ditching the T-62 gun and design scheme completely.
Anonymous No.64399020
>>64392091
Always but Uralvagonzavod-Kartsev had the Kremlin's dick in their mouth or something. They always were the preferred option no matter how shit their designs were and how they actually ended up costing more (T-64 at Kharkiv had production optimizations making it cost less than lower capability T-72s early on, used less strategic resources). There was always lobbying between the design bureaus and factories but UVZ had that has that as their superpower as the most retarded factory x bureau combo.
Anonymous No.64399037
>>64397425
They didn't put straps or shit in there, you get bashed around the tail and hit the avionics that's in there. It was lazy marketing effort to claim it to be an actual spot. They just pretended this doesn't happen at all:
Anonymous No.64399049
>>64391182
>The DPRK makes more tanks and tank hulls than Russia and have done so for 30 years, the T-62 design has been completely and totally vindicated.
Sure thing, buddy. Now take your pills and go back to bed. The grownups are having a conversation here.
Anonymous No.64399104
>>64388480
>but my god does UVZ have a death grip on the Kremlin for being able to shit out slopware.
The problem isn't UVZ shitting out slopware. The problem is that the Russian Army and the government have been made aware countless times of the modifications necessary to the T-90 line of tanks to make them safe enough for tanking. The Gov and Amry just don't want to commit the funds to it because they're still operating in that old WWII tank spam mentality.
Anonymous No.64399218
>>64391426
Still saying it needs the Goofy yell edited in there.
Anonymous No.64399238 >>64399406
>>64388069
>Assuming Russia is going to still exist post-war
Got to admire that optimism.
Anonymous No.64399406
>>64399238
>Got to admire that optimism.

>His turret and optimism: gone.
Anonymous No.64399424
>>64398869
most of its parts were standardized with the T-55 and crew training for these two tanks were so similar that practically no transitional training was required for a T-55 crew member to transfer to a T-62. In this respect, the relationship between the T-62 and the T-55 was quite similar to the relationship between the M48 Patton and the M60
Gun was just a bored out 100mm too
https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/2015/12/t-62.html?m=1
Anonymous No.64399955
>>64391232
>Firstly, there are no german and specially no French tanks deployed in this war.
Leopards are.
And I'm not sure but I think some Leclercs got sent too
Anonymous No.64399964
>>64391426
>that guy
Fly high my zigga
Anonymous No.64400018 >>64400511
>>64391426
Close, but not it, I think the angle it was filmed under was almost the same but you can see the TOW/missile come in IIRC. Still this is a great example of it being a fucking deathtrap, they would have been better off charging directly at whatever they were engaging instead of sitting still like this.
>>64391442
You're still better off not loading shit in the front storage if you know you're going into some high intensity shit. The Turkish leopards got fucked as well because of conscript behavior and sitting out in the open. Honestly better to not risk it like that.
>>64388480
Still mad that this piece of shit is more survivable than a tank in Broken Arrow, devs are smoking crack if they think this fucking design will tank more hits than an apache.
>Inferior sensor
>Inferior weapons (took until these past years to even get a hellfire equivalent)
>Borderline artisanal project
>>64390357
Top attack just rapes armor. Perhaps slapping ERA tiles on everything works, but active protection doesn't have the versatility to really stop it either.
Anonymous No.64400034
>>64398869
>A higher performance and penetration 100mm gun and rounds were right around the corner and out performed the T-62โ€™s 115mm up to the current day
As far as I know there are no domestic russian 100mm apfsds round that outperform 115mm apfsds.

Only the Belgians or other western countries (maybe israel and some african countries like South africa?) produce or rather have built 100mm apfsds that outperform russian 115mm.

>fucking awful shell ejection system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjSniVMa8tw
Kinda weird how there is NO middle eastern footage of the T-62 shell system ejection working. Have not seen any russian T-62 showing the shell ejection system working in Ukraine either.
Anonymous No.64400038
>>64398869
The initial T-64 had the 115 too, and the 100 is a dead caliber if you want to make cheap ammo and barrels that performs well against future threats. The 115 had a considerable advantage against armor, more than going from the 115 to the 125.
All the problems related to the 115 started with making it a "bastard" caliber of the 125 and cancelling the T-62M (125mm of the 1960s) which forced it to remain in service with a 2nd tier tank after the 1970s.
Anonymous No.64400511
>>64400018
Look up who the devs are for Broken Arrow
Anonymous No.64400524 >>64401097
>>64387850 (OP)
>T90M2
Anonymous No.64401097 >>64401153 >>64402130
>>64400524
New mobik cube carrier huh?
Speaking of, how long until the cubes are being used as a source of food by the Russian population? How long before we see "mystery cube meat" stew and soup being served at soup kitchens?
Anonymous No.64401153 >>64402538
>>64401097
Anonymous No.64402130 >>64402538
>>64401097
How long? Anon, it is already happening! (I have a CCTV video of russian soldiers buchering a comrade's coprse with axes from around 2023 in my totally moderate folder, but I can't find it right now...). https://x.com/United24media/status/1936004927291052296
Anonymous No.64402538
>>64401153
Haha, kek, that'- >>64402130 ...Holy fuck. I was only half serious.