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Previous: >>64377438

Id on this pistol, is it a Staccato 2011?

Can I take a dremel tool to a kydex holster?
Has anyone else done the same?

>>64390650
Whoops forgot
I haven't installed it yet but I have all the parts.
I also want to dremel out some room for an optic at some point.

>>64390641
Staccato XC or a P with a chunk port but probably an XC, extremely surprising to see. Not super surprising reading about cops doing competitive shooting where they can justify faster times = more effective in combat.

>>64390650
Yes. I personally just use some snips. Be careful with a cutoff wheel or sandpaper, the medium can get stuck in the kydex and scratch your gun

>>64390663
>cops doing competitive shooting
The buck stops with his department about him getting to carry that on duty

Should I start shooting .40 or stick to 9 and 45? I feel like I could sell this brand new p2000 for more than I bought it for (425).

>>64390716
sell the 40, keep the 45 for defense and the 9mm for cheap training

witness the devastation wrought by the mighty 500 Smith and Wesson Magnum

>>64390714
?

Department’s encourage it and the LAPD had a group buy for special Staccatos engraved

>>64390733
Fair dinkum

>>64390663
Many of the LAPD staccatos were sold since cops profit off off roster sales in California which basically allows cops to be the sole importer of off roster pistols.

>>64390762
If I recall correctly Officer Greg of Taofledermaus, got caught doing this.

>>64390641
>>64390663
Lots of PDs here in California are either issuing or approving Staccatos for duty use. Usually XCs and Ps with Trijicon optics and Surefire lights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMjsfl0iMc8
Sucks because us lesser peasants have to jump through hoops to purchase these supposed "unsafe" handguns that were not given the blessing by our overlords.

Mini-14?

>>64390779
Bro there's like angles and speed holes on that shit
It theoretically can kill like 5x more black people if we don't tax it for my NGO...

>>64390757
>>64390779
Staccato racket

>>64390783
Why would you follow me into here?

>>64390783
I was going to post that I killed him and dumped him in the Austin river but there is a non zero chance that actually happened since he’s a fucking faggot

>>64390634 (OP)
I remember everybody hyping the fuck out of these mec gar glock mags and as soon as they came out I started seeing guns jamming left right and center and other times the mag itself just falling out of the fucking gun under recoil. Absolute embarrassment to a company like mec gar.

>>64390906
I have one of those, it's shit. I bought it because mecgar makes good magazines for Walther, but I guess Glock is just completely different.

>>64390906
it's more like it's a glock pattern mag for the staccato and not for anything else

>>64390915
What's even funnier about that is a standard glock mag is still better in the staccato the mec gar glock mags came packaged with

>>64390906
>Absolute embarrassment to a company like mec gar.
Yeah, as someone who was hyping them up before release it's astonishing they let this one release. It would be like if Glock themselves made an OEM magazine pattern that was a piece of shit jamomatic. I wonder how much of the testing before release was in the hands of staccato.

>>64390663
>extremely surprising to see.
In 2021 I remember my purchase interrupted by a couple of cops in a tulsa gun store asking for a discount on Staccatos if they ordered a giant bulk order. I didn't complete that order because I was very pissed the guy just suddenly stopped the sale to talk to them instead of asking for another employee to help me or them so I have no idea how many they wanted but cops have been blowing money on gucci shit for years dude. These welfare queens retire at 45 making 200k a year for the rest of their life on YOUR dime, why do you think they can't con the city into getting them $2k for some pistols?

>G19 Gen5
>carry 147gr HSTs
>it's a bit stout when shooting
>don't mind but I want it to shoot smoother if I can help it
Would a 16-20# recoil spring assembly help at all, or am I being sold snake oil? What about a comp? Again, don't need these, just trying to reckon how worth it they are.

>>64391130
you need ports bro

>>64390906
>>64391084
they have performed flawlessly in my p4, p4.5, mr918, and 17.4

>>64391395
magpul glock mags have been flawless as well

>>64390634 (OP)
should i buy a black m9 to go with that inox 92fs?

>>64390771
Interesting, where did this piece of info come from? I hadn't heard it before.

>>64391130
Toughen up you faggot, I've had a G19 for 20 years and I've never once wished it was a smoother shooter. Get a .22 if you want that.

>>64391389
>just port your carry gun that you may need to shoot from a retracted position under duress bro
NO

>>64391476
>ask whether or not XYZ works
>"GRR TOUGHEN UP"
No one asked, nigger. You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded. Don't ever (You) me again.

>>64391130
>147gr
Why? Just carry 124gr standard pressure HSTs.

>>64390641
did he just shot crazy person charging police officer with shovel? are they really that coward

>>64391592
Surely the shovel guy though the same, like, he's going to bonk the cop with a shovel and he's not going to shoot him. He's going to holster his gun and wish him as nice day. But it turned out different to his expectations.

>>64391130
I think it's snake oil anon. It sounds to me like you're doing fine with those HSTs but are just getting an urge to monkey with something that's actually good enough.

If you really want that smoother experience then carry something slightly lighter like a 124gr load

>>64390716
I'd keep it since the P2000 was the last good 40 S&W handgun ever made.
>>64390906
Glock has the most retarded fanbase in the gun industry. The fact that these would get hyped up at all when the OEM mags are a whopping $24 is proof of that.
>buy a gun
>replace or chop up literally everything on it
Average Glock "fan" behavior

>>64391130
>carry 147gr HSTs
It is generally recommended that you keep upper parts stock for carry.
>16-20# recoil spring assembly
While it is best to avoid messing with recoil system unless you dramatically change the load, slide weight, or add comp or porting. If you put in a heavier spring, and it cycles, reliably, when the mag is full and when it is empty, and the mag locks back, reliably, many times, with that load. Sure why not.

>>64391554
Dunno lol. I like the extra grainage. I'm absolutely sure that 124gr is dandy- heard lots of good things from citizens and officers who actually needed it. I just like the extra, especially when it's only like 1 or 2 bucks extra per box.
>>64391645
>>64391668
Thanks guys. I was on the fence. I'll just save.

>>64391780
>my gun shoots too stout
>shoots a heavy load that isn't needed and actually performs worse in penetration than 124gr while having the same expansion
Why are you people like this when the solution is so simple?
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/

>>64391790
>luckygunner
If you noticed, they use compact/micro compacts for testing only and shoot in clear gel which does not perform like real calibrated ballistics gel

>>64391824
Tons of youtube tests out there with calibrated ballistic gel the 124gr HST is a well proven performer in various barrel lengths

>>64391790
The Luckygunner tests aren't the end-all, be-all. They used an M&P9C with a 3.5" barrel as their test gun for 9mm. You can even see from their photos that the 147gr HSTs failed to expand because they used a gun that wasn't meant for that particular load. Federal HST is their law enforcement duty load meant for 4-5" barrels.

>>64391836
That's a new change circa 2019. Before that the 147s were widely considered the best do it all load in 9mm by many as they performed well from all typical barrel lengths 3" and up. They made changes to the projectiles to improve AG performance. That's a bit of a shame for most as it means that you now have to use snappier ammo in an already tiny gun

I'm new to EDCing and pistols in general, help a moron out
I bought a shield plus some time ago and the store threw in some kydex IWB holster, I think it said Saya on the bag or something like that.

It was my understanding that there are basically two common styles of IWB carrying, AIWB and 4-o'clock
I was sure I'd end up carrying AIWB because it seemed more easily accessible, I was told it's the more "concealed" option of the two, it's less likely to be snatched without me noticing and I can't count the times I saw someone carries 4-o'clock because their shirt got under the gun.
TL;DR I was told 4-o'clock is more comfortable and appendix is more concealable.

But after EDCing for a while I found AIWB very unpleasant throughout the day (including the cross-draw variant which I also tried) and could only reliably conceal the shield with the flush mag.
And in stark contrast, 4-o'clock wasn't just MUCH more comfortable whether sitting, standing or moving (I notice it but it doesn't bother me) but I also have no trouble concealing the shield even with the extended 13-round mag.

So here's my actual question, what am I doing wrong? IS there something I might be doing wrong?
Since I'm new to carrying I have no frame of reference, I have no idea if it's me that's doing something wrong, if it's a shitty holster, if it's my body type (skinny-fat) or maybe it's just personal preference.
I still don't like the idea of having my gun behind me and would like to see if I can make some variant of appendix work, but the alternative is less effective and unpleasant

I hope everyone is having a nice Columbus Day.

>>64391888
Get an enigma rig, it allows the gun to be placed independent from your belt line for higher or lower ride, with a small short gun you can ride it lower. Having the gun lower means when sitting it isn’t jabbing into your gut at the cost of the grip not being so easy to grab. With the enigma I adjust ride height throughout the day deepending on what I’m doing

Or see if you get some deeper clips for your holster

>>64391888
Post pic of holster. You're probably doing something wrong with your pants/belt or your holsters kinda trash. Foam wedge, belt claw, and offset clips are a combo I swear by fwiw.

>>64391903
Huh, I haven't considered the possibility of vertical adjustment, just horizontal along the belt line.
Interesting! thanks Anon
>>64391918
pic related
It's how it came in the box, just attached the claw, didn't modify it beyond that.
It seems like "simple" holsters are pretty much the same, is there a way to improve what I have? you mentioned a foam wedge and offset clips?

What's the genuine appeal of owning a glock when you can just build whatever you want to spec anyways these days

>>64391877
>That's a bit of a shame for most as it means that you now have to use snappier ammo in an already tiny gun
I mean I get it, but tiny guns 3" aren't supposed to be your primary means of defense. Glock 19 was the CCW gold standard for years until all of a sudden people decided it was too big once the P365 came on the market. Glock even made the G48 so you could have the same barrel length as the G19 in a slimmer package, but people still prefer the G43X and other tiny guns. It used to be common knowledge that subcompacts were backup guns to your primary compact or fullsize IWB carry. Now people think magazine capacity trumps everything while glossing over terminal performance and how JHPs were engineered to work.

>>64391965
> Now people think magazine capacity trumps everything while glossing over terminal performance and how JHPs were engineered to work.

It does tho, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take and more shots on target is always a good thing.

>>64391974
Ok but those shots coming from a 3" gun might fail while the same ones from a 4" gun would perform as intended.

>>64391592
yeah. I saw that too and was too much of a coward to comment on it. The dude is 50 pounds soaking wet and he's swinging that shovel like it's millstone.
On the one hand it's better for society if the crazy people are just killed off. On the other hand that cop was well in the wrong for wasting that dude.

>>64391948
I like how plain and blocky they are.

>>64391824
Clear gel is an even worse case scenario than calibrated gel, if a projectile expands in clear gel it's going to expand in calibrated gel but at the same time a projectile that fails to expand in clear may expand in calibrated.

>>64391948
They just werk.

Owning a canik and having a mental illness go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Who does the best ballistic tests on YouTube? It seems like almost all of them just use clear ballistic gel. The HST 124gr seems to do great out of a 3 inch barrel in every test I've found yet I want to see one with the non clear stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWYgVPZKaVw

>>64391965
situational awareness trumps everything. after that it's
>hits to the vitals
>hits to non vitals which may produce a psychological stop
and all the way down at the bottom of the list is the caliber and cartridge you choose.
a hollow point just makes a slightly bigger hole. And it may fail to do so for a variety of reasons that include barrel length.
Ammunition manufacturers are also just like every other company in the modern day; trying to save costs by cutting corners.
Hornady got caught lying about the performance of one of their 7PRC loads after they changed the components to save money.
So when you buy ammo you really have no idea what you're getting unless you made it yourself.
That's why you reload. Better product for less cost and you worry less about companies screwing you.

>>64391947
you could try a monoblock clip or two clips and offset them yes

Which hollow point design is king? Everything I'm seeing shows hst, critical duty and speer gold dots being the best.

>>64392184
Is it me or are those things an absolute bitch to clip on and remove from thick belts? I almost want to go back to the plastic ones.

>>64392022
>On the other hand that cop was well in the wrong for wasting that dude.
Reddit moment

>>64392201
>tfw never ever again

>>64392201
Winchester still makes these under the "Ranger T" name.

>>64392191
It really depends on what criteria you’re looking for since LE ones make compromises for penetration requirements while you can get better expansion/zero chance of over penetration with others. Or you can get reckless amount of over penetration with those copper screwdriver bullets

How hard would it be to design a gun in cad, and have some mail order machine shop make the parts and send me them? I want something that doesn't exist

>>64392309
If you have to ask, very hard. There is an entire community of 3d printing guns, many of them making original designs

The only original design I can think of that made it to an machined aluminum version is the Mac 10 upper on a custom lower that I think fires from a closed bolt

test

>>64390650
Yes, I've had a holster made for unfortunate old model ppq that took p99 style magazines, had to dremel out the place where nah release goes. It gets soft but doesn't melt or anything, material removed very easily

>>64391542
Try and stop me faggot

>>64392309
The average CAD shop that takes orders from randos is going to immediately decline gun frames.

>>64391592
>disproportionate self defense
Fuck off, you ESL retard

>>64391592
Come at a cop, anyone really, with a weapon and they should be killed

Random acts of violence should have zero tolerance

>>64391592
>no you HAVE TO get hit with a shovel multiple times before the assailant is let off with a $5 bond and a slap on the wrist

I had a good day shooting the Jericho for the first time, that gun is pretty damn accurate, although I didn't really do any drills, I just did mag dumps to see how it would behave

>>64393127
I about to furiously magdump 300 rounds through my Berretta to make sure the optic doesn't get loose

>>64391888
You are doing nothing wrong at all, just discovering things. Some are just hype. Holsters for AIWB and normal ones are only different by cant and most are adjustable.

>>64391888
I appendix carry
It's never comfortable
Just like hauling around a cellphone/wallet/keys
It will never be comfortable
You just get over it with repetition

>>64393166
what belt/holster/gun

>>64393214
A shield plus with that agressive stippling
It's also in the way of my cock when I have to piss
It's heavy
It presses on your stomach.
If its a problem you can wear an undershirt between the pistol and your stomach.

>>64393127
>Sword Art Online
So double-action was an option but you never used it with that target?

>>64393229
Ride the gun lower so it doesn’t jam into your gut at much

>decade ago
>plenty of time to shoot
>no money
>5 years ago
>have money
>no time
>now
>have money
>have time
>have son
>no energy to shoot

There's no winning dudes.

>>64393329
That's life, brother

>>64393329
you're just a few years away from the next golden age
>buy a .22
>teach son to shoot
don't miss this one, anon

>>64391395
>>64391399
That's a really interesting angle I haven't heard before. Point for shadow systems i guess.

>>64391888
I found carrying 4oclock had faster draws and was more comfortable especailly when sitting/driving so that's what I use. Everyones daily outfits and body shapes are different anon, use what works for you not what a spreadsheet says. I wear a lot of buttondowns, and appendix just seemed to get caught on them more than a tshirt. Make sure you're actually doing draw drills with the cloths you wear especially with fall around the corner. I found I had to completely adjust my draws for my winter/fall jackets by grabbing my right jacket pocket with my support hand and bringing it up and out of the way or I'd end up getting my gun caught on it 1/3rd the time. Your milage may vary based on what you wear.

>>64393376
>>64391888
Oh I forgot to mention, a dedicated carry belt REALLY helps with comfort and printing especially when sitting. I love my Hanks belt, but my buddy has a Kore belt and loves that, and some folks here say they have a Blue Force Alpha belt and love that. Because everyone universally seems to think their carry belt is awesome I don't think it really matters which one you pick, just pick the one that you would want to actually wear the most.

Anyways heres me with my 509c with 15 round mag in trying my best to make it print and it's still basically invisible. The holster, shirt, and belt you use matters a lot more for printing than the gun itself.

>>64392326
I just want vash the stampedes revolver. Why does no one make a 6 o'clock barrel, break action 45 long colt revolver? I was thinking I could get a replica if it to understand the function and then remake it in cad get the majority of it machined for me and then source a quality barrel and cylinder
>>64392998
Well I could just have them make it all but the serialized part of it idk

>>64393443
>Why does no one make a 6 o'clock barrel, break action 45 long colt revolver?
How the fuck would that work? Where would the framed pivot to open, right next to the barrel and forcing cone?

>>64393476
It would pivot somewhere like this, I don't see why that wouldn't work

>>64393443
Revolvers are like clockwork, using 3d printing and CAD seems like it would require a level of precision that semi autos don't require and even semi auto designs are finicky to get working.

Is a J frame a viable carry gun in 2025?

>>64391661
Op, glockfags weren't even hyping t up because all they said was
>"Why would I need this when I have a Mariana's trench full of Glock mags?"

>>64393548
There are some 3d printed revolvers but only in .22 lr, I think one of them is entirely 3d printed (disposable gun).

>>64393549
With modern designs you get 10+1 in a smaller package vs J frames 5 rounds. I think that's as good of an argument for obsolescence as any. Even though it is objectively obscelete it's still viable if you already own one, but I don't think anyone should reccomend buying one over a BG 2.0 or microcompact of your choice if the sole purpose is to be a tiny carry pistol.

>>64393524
I mostly hate it because the hinge is close to the cylinder barrel gap, but it may not actually be that big of a deal.

>>64393549
Viable only because it’s a revolver and benefits from not requiring recoil to cycle it. Otherwise micro compact 9mms out gun it in nearly every other way. Revolvers can’t get around their fat cylinders while the bodyguard 2.0 is super slim.

>>64393549
>>64393578
J-frames shine as a backup gun for close range scenarios.

>no OOB malfunctions
>harder to prevent from going bang in grappling
>harder to disarm
>ammo trouble? pull the trigger again

All these qualities make them far from obsolete. I'd argue guys who carry microcompacts would be better off carrying a nyc reload j-frame rather than a spare mag.

>>64393606
That barrel fluting looks interesting.

>>64393659
New S&W 940, 9mm 5 shot moon clips, I’d never own one or carry one since a bent moonclip will lock up the gun. They can’t use not as easily bent half moon clips since it’s a 5 rounder either

>>64393671
That's why I refuse to buy a revolver that shoots a rimless round. Anyways a safariland comp 1 or 2 speedloader is almost just as fast.

>>64393578
>>64393549
IMO there is only one use case where they work really well - no belt + clip grip + airweight.

>>64392202
You have fat fingers.

>>64393781
NTA but I get what he's saying those little hooks underneath the clip sometimes are tough to pull out from the belt unless you get the 1.75 one and use a 1.5 belt

>>64392868
NIGGER

>>64390634 (OP)
>Pussy repellent edition
FTFY

hey guys let's all be nice to each other for a change

>>64393845
Fuck you!

>>64393850
o-ok

Which way, white man?

i want a cross draw holster for my 629 4"

anyone have any opinions?

>>64393879
wouldn't that just be a regular holster?

>>64393879
https://holsterwelt.com/Belt-Holster-OFFICER-Cross-Draw-6-65-N-Frame-SW-25-27-29-57-610-629-DeluxeTaurus-Tracker-17-44-97-425-990-991-992-Right-hand-Brown

>>64393879
>>64393891
Shit, that's for a 6". Hold on.

>>64393856
Sgammo, it’s free shipping.

>>64393886
cross draw the style, not a brand. it's a big heavy 44 and mostly for winter woods against bear and cougars.

>>64393879
OK, here we are.
https://holsterwelt.com/Belt-Holster-OFFICER-Cross-Draw-4-N-Frame-SW-27-29-325-327-329-610-625-627-629Taurus-17-44-97-425-990-991-992-Right-hand-Brown

>>64393906
looks nice, is there nothing in America that is the equivalent? Ships to USA but wouldn't it be tariffed?

>>64393899
That is a very compelling argument, but even if it's Winchester white box?

>>64393899
Federal is also free shipping

>>64393912
IDK, to be honest, I just used a search engine. I don't even own a revolver, I'm just trying to be helpful.

>>64393921
understandable thanks

>>64393913
I have never shot federal RTP, I have a 1000 rounds of it but SGammo is my preferred vendor

>>64393879
Ronin Leather Works, I like his work

>>64393942
https://roninleatherholstersllc.com/Cms/

>>64393942
If you flip that holster upside down does the gun fall out? Is the retention adjustable on them?

Should I krylon my Glock 30 in RAL8000?

>>64393958
Retention is not adjustable. If I hold my full steel 1911s upside it’ll fall out. I’ll guess it does the same to my PX4. I wear these IWB so it’s not a problem for me but it might be for you. He has thumb break options

>>64393927
Ha ha, you're welcome. It's actually fun to be nice.
>>64393942
Honestly, this is a pretty good option. Custom leather guys are usually pretty keen on helping you get exactly what you want. They generally take a lot of pride in their work and enjoy the challenge.

>>64393879
>i want a cross draw holster

you are completely aware of how stupid it is so why?

>>64393856
Sgammo has had consistently great prices and good ship times, never heard of ammo joy. Id order from sgammo based on that, but all things equal i prefer federal over winchester.

>>64393956
>>64393958
Hmm. It doesn’t seem he makes a OWB cross draw. He’ll do a tanker or shoulder holster.

>>64393959
Yes
>>64393977
NTA
Some time you can get things just because they are fun.

>>64393977
what's wrong with a cross draw holster? I can't do shoulder rigs and its for when i'm sitting in vehicle or woods walking

>>64393986
>>64393991
he clearly doesn't see it as "fun" he is just a neofudd contrarian who doesn't want the anon tulpa in his head to call him a tranny for carrying AIWB

>>64393845
I think we mostly have, retard.

>>64393646
Any of those small benefits pale in comparison to the giant rift of difference in capacity and ammo cost. "It's worse in every way except these small benefits" means it's obscelete. That doesn't mean it's not viable, just that there are other better options for 99% of users and use cases. I wouldn't reccomend a really old columbia winter coat over a brand new omni heat jacket because the omniheat will do the job better, but both are viable for keeping you warm in the winter.

>>64393977
Crossdraw is really good for drawing while sitting, which is why it was so popular with horse soldiers like the Texas Rangers

>>64393997
Well, unless you depend on his holster choice for your personal safety, maybe you should go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself.
You clearly don't know this, but you actually have the option to not be an annoying faggot. Try it you may like it.

>>64394002
>"It's worse in every way except these small benefits" means it's obscelete
They're rather large benefits when it comes to defending your life ESL-san.

>>64394021
what's wrong with cross draw?
other than potentially flagging yourself but shoulder rigs do that too.

>>64393845
It's literally impossible for the gunfag community. It's so heavily overly populated with massive insecure faggots who value being "rigth" over being helpful and freindly it's totally unreal. This is THE easiest thread to troll because all you have to do is say
>.32 acp is a viable self defense caliber
and everyone loses their fucking minds.
In some way you are the Fudds you complain about.

>>64394036
Fuck you, he was literally saying .32 ACP was just as good as 9mm while posting +P+ Buffalo bore compared to 9mm FMJ range ammo in gel

I hope that faggot dies

>>64393856
>doing anything on the fucking phone when given the option
Zoomers need to be exterminated.

>>64394043
That, in no way, diminishes how easy it is to trigger you lot. It's basically equivalent to miss gendering a gay faggot with how insecure the gun community is.
>My caliber is best caliber.
>My (insert brand) is best brand. Anything else's will get you killed in da streetz.
It's all so tiresome.
I haven't been ITT in months and months and it's sad to see the same sick sad fucks are still have the same sick sad fucking problems. Which you wouldn't have, by the way, if you were a little more concerned with being freindly to eachother instead of being "right".

>>64394049
I'm older than you, faggot. I just don't live at my computer desk like some NEAT weeb faggot.

>>64394049
Gunfag literally triggered by a phone post.
I rest my case.

>run so hard that the doctor confirms I have athletic heart “syndrome”
Why don’t you guys take the run pill? A mile is less than ten minutes you have to waste every day? Less than a year in and it’s gotten rid of any under chin fat that was starting, given me a six pack and unsolicited marriage proposals?
>>64390783
It’s too big for yellow’s kitten
We’re starting off with small guns

>>64394069
Fucking faggot

But the real reason that you’re not understanding is that people trust certain ammo and certain guns to defend their life. If anyone differs, critiques their choice, it criticizes their most critical decisions and they’ll arguing about it personally. It’s like cars but not as serious, cars are a huge purchase so people research and come to a decision. Anyone telling them they bought the wrong car or ammunition, is like telling them they’re retarded. You’re acting like you’re above it all, but I’m infact above you, towering over you on this moral high ground.

I did not partake in the above discussion since I realized some people were taking it personally.

so is there anything actually wrong with cross draw or no?
i know you flag yourself potentially but same with shoulder rigs, i'd do a shoulder rig but can't do shoulder holsters at all anymore.

>>64394085
NTA complaining but it allows for easy access from attackers while your draw is more difficult when contested.

>>64394082
>Why don’t you guys take the run pill?
It is hard on the old knees. I prefer to swim. 0 pact total body workout, also bitches in swim suits. Unfortunately it requires an indoor pool in the winter and chlorine sucks. Salt water pools rule, hit I've never seen a gym with a saltwater pool. Maybe I'm just poor.
Nice PP and pussy, BTW. Does the PP have any cool bird stamps on it?

I need 1911 mags. What do I buy? Mostly shooting 230gr ball, no intentions of carrying

>>64394115
I've had no problems with the wilson combat ones

>>64394092
ah i guess that makes sense in that context. I was looking at models with a thumb strap for retention anyways, it weights almost 3 pounds loaded.
but like I said i'd be in a mostly seated position anyways and fighting a seatbelt or trying to draw from 4-5 iwb while seated is more likely the scenario i'd face.

>>64394083
>it criticizes their most critical decisions and they’ll arguing about it personally.
If you weren't an insecure faggot, you could just shake that kind of shit off. I make my own decisions and based on my situation. I don't get all ass blasted because some internet faggot thinks .40 isn't the optimal caliber or that a manual safety isn't
>le heckin high speed operator
enough.
I mean, FFS the 1911 is a pretty shit gun in current year. The only reason to carry one is because you have poor trigger control, but I don't really care if you want to carry one, even if it is a Kimber. So if an anon wants to carry a 4" revolver in a cross draw holster, either politely explain the potential issues, help him find one or simply ignore the post instead of being a shit ass.

>>64394150
>1911 is a pretty shit gun in current year
You have alerted the horde!

>>64394150
Uhh actually, that’s my Kimber Liberty or Death Independence Day 1776 commemorative TWE•NTY EL•EVEN (2011) in .45 ACP. The Wilson Combat Elite Professional in .45 ACP is my carry gun

>>64394083
That hat is ironic you’re not really a bigoted drumfoid are you?

>>64394154
To my point, they are quite easy to trigger.
>>64394167
Despite what you may think, your inclusion of cartoon pornography actually obliterates any shred of credibility you many have hoped to attain.
I always really appreciate it when people tell me what kind of person they really are.

Pp anon posted picture evidence a long time ago that the .32 cavity in gel was larger than the 9mm one. You faggots can just do nothing but cope.

>>64394041
>>64394031
Yall are right I shouldn't have tried to have a nuanced take when something as simple as "revolvers are shit from a butt in current year and only retards with more lead paint than brain cells carry them" is truly more accurate. Go carry a luger if you want something old and shitty, at least then you'd be the interesting type of stupid.

>>64394196
I will literally die for Donald Trump if he told me to

>>64394167
where do you get these books and doujins bro?

>>64394201
>being mad over 2d porn on 4chan of all places
I have /trash/ open right now looking at fox women call the cops nigga

>>64394210
>Dying for a politician.
I'd literally kill myself first.

>>64394211
Buyee, booth.pm, amiami, melon books (through buyee), eBay

There’s a guide on /a/ in the buyfags thread but I’m sure it’s outdated

>>64394210
For Israel, basically?

>>64394210
I wouldn't even use both my hands to count the amount of people I would take a bullet for.

>>64394213
I'm not mad. In fact, I'm glad you confirmed my suspensions.

>>64394227
Good

>>64394219
>>64394224
Wheats important right now is loyalty to country and people, the left will always back whoever has a D by their name no matter what heinous crime or statements they have made.

He’s infinitely more powerful than I so his life is worth more than my own. I can’t do anything to save this country but he can

I’m half serious half shitposting

Kimber 2k11 internals are MIM but the trigger is decent. There’s a visual imperfection on the hammer

>>64394210
The next /hg/ challenge should be to donate our monthly ammo funds to AIPAC.

>>64394239
Real talk, is Kimber slowly improving? I've been seen several people on forums saying they're the only company making revolvers these days with out major quality control issues

>>64394239

>>64394244
I’ll retruth that brother!

>>64394255
Yes. The 2K11 apparently is doing great other than the safety, it sucks and I replaced it immediately. Apparently they have a revised one but I don't understand how products like this can get to market with such a glaring ergonomics issue, like the Staccato HD's grip and safety as well. It passed Ben Stoeger's test of 10k rounds. Unfortunately for me it's slide design does not fit in my expensive 2011 leather holster so I have to use a Floodlight 2 hence the X300.

I've only really seen positive things about the Kimber K6, I like how it uses dovetailed sights and not fucking pinned sights like S&W.

>>64394279
>ron cohen stops being the ceo
>company slowly starts improving
Huh it's funny how that works. I wonder if sig will have their own redemption arc once he gets kicked out of the 109th company he has ruined.

>>64394279
oh with the Kimber .45 2011 after ~400 rounds of .45, mix of standard 230 and 200gr +P, only one malfunction at around 300 where it failed to feed and one light strike which I can't tell if it's ammo (Winchester Red Box) or the gun.

Gun doesn't recoil that much at all, you can tell it's a .45 but isn't punishing to shoot, my hands did ache the day after but that's because I fired 400 rounds with at least 150 being +P 200 gr.

>>64394258
>>64394244
Oy vey

>>64394210
dude hes anti 2A, thats a yikes

>>64394325
I'm sure Kamala Harris is better.

>>64394255
Ever since they made a revolver that doesn't suck, I wouldn't diss kimber

327 federal magnum
Any have any hands on experience with this round?

Handguns?

>>64394357
Cool it with the antisemitism, okay?

>>64393578
The problem with pocket autos is that they print badly no matter how thin they are, i've never found a pocket holster that actually breaks up that distinctive gun-shaped outline. The j-frame on the other hand with it's rounded cylinder and sort of curved grip shape blends right in.

I bought this thing for cheap practice, but it has 100% reliability with Federal Punch and it might end up as a carry gun. Does anyone have any experience with XS sights on a revolver to know if you can still get good plinking accuracy with those?
>>64394115
If your 1911 is anything like every single one I've used, get cheap mags because it's going to jam anyways.

>>64394378
That's the practical knowledge that matters, which the specs-sheet warrior will never understand.

>>64394115
Whatever Wilson Combat mags are on sale, they’re like 25 dollars on sale, the Wilson ETMs are the best. Tripp mags are good too. Chip McCormick is good as well, whoever inherited his stuff is a piece of shit, they sold his medals and gun to some Gunstore who’s trying to sell it for like 8k

>>64394354
nope too busy shooting 45 gap and 30 super duper

>>64394378
Oddly enough using a light like a tlr6 on a g42 or g43 makes it look like a cellphone in your pocket

forgot pic

this month's challenge is ass, im trying to figure out how to make it creative but i cant

they call it 30 super carry because you can carry it! haha

>>64394437
It seems like a good round I just have the feeling it will never catch on

>>64394394
I will say that for a lot of people this isn't going to be as important a consideration since they're just tossing a gun in their pocket to run errands.
But since I work around the general public and carrying is verboten as far as the company I work for is concerned I have found through long experience that a j-frame is pretty much the only way (Outside of the really tiny micro-autos) to guarantee that nobody notices it while i'm lifting, bending, laying down, tying my shoes, etc.

>>64394418
I asked for suggestions and no one answered

It’s incredibly difficult and takes a fair amount of ammo. It’s difficult finding a challenge that people can do without access to ranges that allow rapid fire, holster draws, etc that is relevant. I was thinking the same challenge but all at 15 but half the time

>>64394446
An AR15 with a brace is a handgun you can just use that and complete the challenge easily.

>>64394449
If you bring a "handgun" to a handgun challenge your mother will die in her sleep.

>>64393956
FUCK I just ordered an ANR kydex holster a week ago for my K frame since no other company was making a holster for them with a wing which I need. I wonder if I can cancel. That's exactly what I wanted.

Dont speak to me or my son ever again

>>64394378
When I get home at 2am EST I'll post a pic of my QVO bodyguard 2.0 holster in my relatively tight small pocket scrub pants and the tightest elastic jean pockets I own later, but I think it does a very good job breaking up the print. The hook draw system works perfectly in every pair of pants I own and 4/6 pairs of shorts I've tried. 15 seconds in is when the hook demonstration is. https://youtube.com/shorts/Ivnt4BIr_5w?si=dzMBmRxZ3iAScnvo

Give me one good reason I shouldn't grab that 150 usd hi point single stack 37 pd trigger pull 45 acp pistol.

>>64394418
Try to lay out your design before you go to shoot, but try to limit it to 30 rounds or so. 50 rounds of precision fire is a death march.

>>64394656
The JXP-10 runs both 40 Sexy & Wet AND 10mm.

>>64394678
How heavy is the slide on a blowback 10mm?

>>64394708
Absurdly so. It actually makes it comically soft shooting despite being a blowback.

>>64394508
look at that brass....LOOK AT THAT BRASS! I WANT TO PICK IT UP!

>>64394770
golem get ye gone

Good enough for government work

>>64394678
I hate how much I enjoy the look of those grips on a JXP-10, based Vagabond appreciator.

>>64394770
Four whole ammo boxes of brass right here.
Gonna wait until black Friday and get a cheap reloading kit...
I wanna load up some spicy 300 blk and some heavy ass 9mm

Any consensus on the Springfield 1911s? I shot a Springfield Operator a few months ago and loved it, was thinking about getting one of the more classic models.

>>64394845
>Any consensus on the Springfield 1911s?
Their quality and QC isn't much better than Tisas for 2x the price, but what you pay for is features Tisas lacks and a warranty service that if you do send the gun back you will get it back in a much better state than when you bought it new since they will have gunsmiths polish it up for you. Up to you if the extra $400 sounds with it for that, if not Tisas uses all forged parts unlike Springfield's MIM and you can get most models for under $400

>>64394839
>I hate how much I enjoy the look of those grips on a JXP-10
It's genuinely fucked how good they feel in the hand. Thing Meister does a great job and I wish they made grips for guns folks actually care about instead of making shockingly good quality meme grips for hi points. My stock JXP10 grips had a gap between them and the frame and it would pinch the webbing of my thumb every shot, so while I was sort of forced into getting them I'm very glad I did.

>>64394678
based that looks pretty sweet dude.

>>64394845
The only thing they have over a Tisas is that they have a nice blued finish. Which can rust easily if you don’t oil it or store it right.

If you have the scratch, buy American. It’s just the right thing to do, but I would recommend buying used and looking for higher tier 1911s.

I got this classic Colt that was tuned up, bar-sto match barrel, professional trigger job, for only 800 dollars

i hate grip safetys

>>64395098
>professional trigger job
an oil change from walmart is a professional oil change

>>64395113
Hard to say “gunsmith tuned” when the gunsmith was unknown. And I guess you can say someone who installs glock sights for a living is a gunsmith.

No creep,~3-3.5 pounds, not as good as my nighthawk’s but noticeably better than some of the Tisas I have

If you were in a self defense situation where a nog came at you with a knife and you drew and shot him down and said “eat lead, nigger!” Would that look unfavorable on you in your legal case? What would the repercussions be? Keep in mind the self defense is completely justified.

>>64395160
Sorry not giving you free legal advice, that'll be 600 an hour with a one hour minimum charge

do you guys have any trigger guard mounted rails for the beretta 92s?
https://youtu.be/4ST9dtTdCJ0

i can't find any A1s so im thinking of just getting the base 92FS and putting these on

>>64395190
They literally just brought back the M9A1 and the LTT elite uses a m9a1 frame (the non LTT version, the base model)

>>64395201
forgot to mention im in commiefornia

>>64394508
>>64394378
Here is what it looks like in literal elastic skinny jeans. It doesn't print "gun", and that's in my most revealing pants.

>>64395160
I'd laugh if I was on that jury

>>64395213
I'll concede that's not bad at all for an auto, and i'm sure it would blend in better with a more appropriate choice of pants.
>Obligatory Nice Bulge UwU

odds of a 2011 staccato fitting in a leather holster made for a 1911?

t. airshitter

>>64395270
meant staccato 2011 but am retarded

anyway i don't need an answer anymore since i just ordered a bunch of holsters. we'll see when we see

>>64395334
its zero the rail will make it not fit 1911 holsters. unless its one of those shitty onesize fits everything badly holsters.

>>64395339
its definitely on the cheaper end of leather holsters but it's still fitted. i'm hedging my bets on either a 1911 holster fitting a 2011 or a glock holster fitting a glock
>the rail will make it not fit 1911 holsters
the website does mention one railed 1911 in its list of compatible guns but i doubt it does. however my retarded goo goo gaga monkey brain won't take no for an answer until it sees for itself

>>64395376
>leather
its not going to fit cancel it
just buy the correct holster

>>64395209
Get a Vertec if you want rails.
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/92fs-vertec-inox

>>64395190
>>64395209
Get a Vertec if you want rails.
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/92fs-vertec-inox>>64395388

>>64395190
>>64395209
Get a Vertec if you want rails.
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/handgun/92fs-vertec-inox

>>64395379
you speak like you have personal experience with this kind of thing

>just buy the correct holster
i did, for my glock. however return shipping for an extra holster is a small price to avoid hearing
>"yeah but what if it had fit with the rail"
inside my head for the next 2 months. this is how i manage my neuroses

>>64395397
even the railed 1911 ones dont fit all railed 1911s since the dustcovers have different styles.
the squared off trigger guard guarantees a 2011 wont fit in a 1911 holster.

>>64395417
ok yeah i looked at comparison shots and indeed the trigger guard will indeed be an issue so yeah have to cancel on it. honestly im just coping hard here because its hard to find more classic style holsters in this style for the 2011

>>64395392
shit i had no idea this wa son the roster
thanks a lot fren

>>64394049
>be at work
>everything is blocked on work computer
>use phone
>VPN into my home network

I'm in the market for an entry level 1911-2011 and so far everything points to the Prodigy, is this a good choice or a waste of money?

>>64396019
The prodigies are very hit and miss, there is the LFA Apollo, Tisas, MAC and the cheapest version of the Kimber 2K11. Sometimes a staccato used is below 2k

>>64395471
The Vertec has been out of production for a while. The M9A1 is on the roster.

>>64395270
Very little to zero.

>>64393856
Speer Lawman from SGAmmo

>>64394845
The Garrison is a good classic-styled model that has everything you need and nothing you don't. Why'd you post one in the wrong caliber though?

>>64390716
I'd keep it because if nothing else when panic buying happens 40 is the last to disappear off the shelves of those three. It never hurts to have all the common calibers just so you can switch around depending on availability.

Perfection sisters should I buy a G41 or G21.5? I was leaning toward the G21 since I already have a G30.5 and kind of want the big brother to go with it. The G41 is cheaper and discontinued though, so I feel like I should grab one while I still can.

>>64396156
I didn’t know they have gen 5 g21s. Do want, but for used prices.

bros I hope the PSA 2011 is good for the price

>>64396296
It’s likely to have fallen through since watchtower went under, the 2011 market is very oversaturated right now

Amyone have options to move the trigger break point farther forward on a Beretta 92A?

>>64396037
NTA but what about Alpha Foxtrot or Bersa USA?

>>64396464
I have little knowledge of those two except that Alpha Foxtrot is an OEM supplier of frames and parts to other brands like Springfield but them making parts and them making a 2011 that runs is different things

>>64396156
>The G41 is cheaper and discontinued though, so I feel like I should grab one while I still can.
Barring crazy legislation I seriously doubt you'd have any issues tracking down a G41 in five years time. A 45 Auto Glock is not going to ever get anymore popular, which is why it's being discontinued in the first place.

Not saying don't buy it if you want it, but don't let FOMO decide for you.

>>64396525
That's why I'm still leaning toward the G21. I feel like the Gen 5 upgrades are worth it compared to anything you'd gain from the extra half inch of barrel on the G41.

Opinion on the 586 with 4 barrel?

If I'm going to be shooting 38 spl 95% of time should I just get a Taurus?

>>64395856
How about fucking work while you are being paid to work at work.

Like I said, zoomers need to be exterminated.

>>64396714
What are the upgrades, it's just ambi stuff and ratchet rifling?

>>64396750
reality of office work is that you have often nothing to do for hours, days, weeks, months even.

once working for one of the "big 4" consultant companies I did nothing for 6 months because our client side manager had a difficult pregnancy with an extended sick leave, and the client didn't bother to assign a replacement. thankfully it was remote work, so I got several months paid basically to attend one zoom call every monday and then nothing.

>>64396726
It’s a beautiful gun, I’d go for it. I have a 6” 586 and I honestly wish I got a 4”, the 6” is a little front heavy. Makes shooting magnums more enjoyable, but still

>>64396759
>ambi slide lock and reversable mag release
>"marksman" barrel
>no finger grooves
>flared magwell
>extended magazine floorplate and orange follower (lol)
>improved nDLC coating
>improved grip texture
I'm not really a glockfag so I might be forgetting something, but those are the main changes between Gens 4 and 5.
>>64396763
based preggo lady giving you free money

Berettafags, who did your slide milling and how much did you pay?

Local goober is quoting me $500 for an optic cut. I know he can do it, because he showed his work, but that seems way too high. At that point I may as well just buy a GTS.

>>64396726
If you're looking at .38, just get an old smith on Gunbroker

>>64396826
Langdon. $400. Your guy is a faggot.

>>64396750
>Actually working for more than half the work day
I seriously hope...

>>64396826
Langdon. 400 including shipping there.

Why get any other cut? They’re inferior as Langdon is the lowest, includes plate, includes new front sight, cerakote and for the 92 includes a decocker conversion

>>64396750
When the code compiles I ain’t got much else to do

>>64396763
>>64396853
>>64396935
If you've got time to lean, you've got time to clean.

>>64396826
Dual Hammer does it for 200 before shipping. Is it good work? No clue.
500 is steep even with the convenience of not having to ship it.

>>64397076
how about fuck you

>>64391464
Oh god not this fucking faggot again

>>64397076
That sounds like what your boss tells you at your shit retail job. Couldn't be me!

30S Anon again. After grip correction and a few months of carrying and range time, I think I've finally gotten this thing to consistently cycle. Groupings are (mostly) consistent.

I've been unemployed for a while but I can start a new job tomorrow. The catch? I'll have to drive through niggerville and go on federal property, ergo no guns. Can't even leave it in the car. If I get caught I'm fired, I lose my CCW, and I will probably have federal felony charges. Not going into my life story, but if I don't take this I'll probably be fucked financially as it's difficult for me to find with that I can actually do that pays.
What would you do?

>>64397449
Not carry for a while, feel the waters of how enforcement of the rules is actually done. Alternative defense like the pepper ball guns, mace, not going to stop a armed car jacker but will be useful and gives you some options

>>64397449
>If I get caught I'm fired
a free man does not ask permission
just scout out the area on your first day
>any pat down checkpoints?
>metal detectors
>how much schmovement are you doing that could cause printing
>bathrooms mostly empty when youre on the clock?
>how much privacy do you have during the shift
>any cameras monitoring you
If theres a low chance of someone seeing it, or a low chance of you having it exposed then keep that shit on you

i wokr private security but the entire time my ass is alone and inside a vehicle
of course i carry that thang on me
its all about dont ask dont tell

>>64397449
Take the job and just don't stop anywhere between work and your home.

>>64397449
Be prepared to run lights and stop signs
Protip your vehicle can be used a defensive weapon...

>>64397466
>>64397475
>>64397488
There's one other problem. The job involves driving. If I get pulled over, I have to disclose that I'm carrying in my state. I have a cc the cop will ask. The company vehicle has cameras with sound for insurance reasons. I'll lose my job then and there.
Still better than being caught on federal property though (where a lot of the work is done.)
I can conceal very well and there weren't metal detectors last time I did this sort of work (it would make things so slow to search everyone) but this was over ten years ago. Who knows what bullshit they have now? Back then people carried but my boss at that company didn't care and they're weren't cameras everywhere yet, especially not in vehicles.
I have considered leaving a cheap gun in the car and keeping it locked anyway and maybe just hoping I don't get attacked at work. I shouldn't, but you never know.

>>64397519
Don’t get pulled over, how hard is that?

>>64396750
Working more than you need to is gay

>>64397432
No glocks allowed here.

>>64397519
>The company vehicle has cameras with sound
ah okay, this is actually a dealbreaker
my company vehicle doesnt have that since they cheap out on everything

but being recorded while driving is a big enough reason to not risk it
god forbid you use a slur when someone cuts you off and it gets caught on camera

>>64396726
Just get it regardless

>>64397549
How many of those needed to be sent back to S&W for warranty work?

>>64397555
None, because they work, you pansy

>>64397366
bitch shut the fuck up you fuckin cocksucking little nigger, go cheer for your hohols.

>>64397561
Until they don't, hillary hole faggot

>>64397568
You gonna cry?

>>64397579
Why would I? I'm not the one with cuckholes that's you

>>64397585
Whatever nigger, they work, they shoot, and at the end of the day, thats what matters.

>>64397548
>I wouldn't put up with cameras
This is why I haven't been working (one of the reasons), but money is running out. I don't have a lot of options and I have a woman and dogs to support. If it was just me I'd stand on principles and maybe fight back or whatever, but they need me. She said she would get a job and support me financially, but let's be honest, realistically how well will that go for all involved? I'm up against a wall here and one of the few connections I have got me this and there's no other way I can maintain a dignified white man lifestyle. I'm too old to learn a new profession and too autistic to do much anyway.
I think I'll leave a cheap gun in the car and not carry at work. It's the least risky proposition.
I didn't mean to go all blogger, but I'm in a really sorry state. I don't care about this shit existence for myself anymore, but I love a woman (and our dogs) and it keeps me invested. But if I get culturally enriched or postal'd I'm no good to her either...

>>64397609
I hate to be that guy but you're going to have to accept the circumstances.
I keep a little revolver and knife in my car but I wouldn't ever have a gun on me while I'm wearing my work badge because that not only means losing my way to make a living, but also the means to afford this hobby.
I hope that woman of yours will bear you some kids

>>64397591
Just shitposting around anon, they’re nice

>always carry at work, tech company with nothing but a security guard at the front desk
>office goes entirely work from home, stuck in my house, obviously guns everywhere
>eventually entire department gets laid off
>new job, guns arent allowed
>dont carry for a few days to see what they do
>i have to change into coats and aprons and take off my uniform if necessary, belt carry is not an option
>buy a glock 42 and just carry it in a pocket holster since i never have to take my pants off
>been over a year and a half and nothing

people that are scared about getting fired are the kind of people that cant also just get another job. If you're important, educated and skilled and talented, or just a good worker you can just get another job.

>>64397648
Fine I guess, I just think the hillary hole shit, which I can understand why it matters, is just a meme at the end of the days

>>64397667
>people that are scared about getting fired are the kind of people that cant also just get another job
They're scared of getting a felony because the company may call the sherriff/police

>>64397637
>bears your kids
She did. He died. It's sad. We're to old to have another.
That's why I'm checked out, but not on her.
I'll go with the car thing. They can fire me but I won't lose my CCW or get federal charges, and I'll be armed in the hood. I think that's reasonable.
I guess.

>>64397672
a felony level trespass charge is only applicable if you are still there when the cops arrive AFTER you've been trespassed.
Unless you're working as a fucking federal mailman in a federal building you cant get immediately hit with a felony for carrying a gun to work.
Absolute nightmare scenario is HR calls you into the office with intent to fire and trespass you and they attempt to check or search you or ask you if you have a gun.
At that point you're fired anyway so why stick around just fucking leave.

>>64397673
I'm sorry for your loss anon
I'm almost 28 and nothing would make me happier than having sired at least 4 children.
I wish you the best of luck with your new job, because you'll be needing it in these trying times

>>64397685
Yeah, this is why I didn't care at my last job. Sometimes it would be "surprise! We're working at a post office!" And is sweat getting busted, but mostly it was legal carry (in this jurisdiction)
>>64397717
Thank you. I'm a fucking wreck. He was alive when I did this work last and I've been having flashbacks of the time before and had to keep it in all day during the orientation. It would not be good to break down crying. And now I have to deal with this shit.
It fucking sucks.
I haven't fired a gun in months (because money) and now I got to effectively give up my rights to afford to do it again.


Please, nobody respond to this so I can leave the thread and go on pretending everything's going to be okay.

Let's talk about something else. I have to have a melt down and it's done now. I had nowhere else to do it.

Are leather holsters that much more comfortable than kydex to carry?

>>64397797
Well...
I have a .357 mag revolver again

250 rounds through my 20x bobcat, had to call it short at the range, and got distracted showing a buddy the basics of trap shooting when he wrapped up with his handgun anyways. Kind of a welcome distraction, I was experiencing a lot of light strikes, failures to fully cycle, and failures to eject. Only twice did I have to use a knife to pry the brass out, it only took a few seconds as opposed to the stories I've heard of folks having to spend several minutes trying to get it free. Reliability improved over time, and I was expecting a break in period of about 150 rounds.
>Used cci minimags, consensus seems they are the bobcat's favorite
>Underloaded the magazines, consensus is that on the older models if you overloaded them with the extra space or even just fully loaded them, it could cause issues on your second shot, haven't heard much about that with the 20x but played it safe
>Fucking BABIED the gun with some balistol and q-tips for the barrel every 40-60 shots or so

My plan right now is
>Get at least another 250 or so rounds through it and see how much things improve, probably try federal punch and velociters to see if my particular gun has a better appetite for those
>After that, polish the barrel and chamber or have a gunsmith do so when I drop off a Rossi
>Pick up a suppressor (already paid for) when the transfer tax drops, am sure this will help with the gas cycling and might even fully resolve the ejection issue

Any anons here have feedback on my current plan, or recommendations on other things to try?
>Inb4 ditch it
I know some of you love to hear yourselves talk. Spare me. This is a range toy, this is me dipping a toe into semi-auto ownership, this is a .22 because it is cheap and fun to practice with, I like that it looks cool. I know bobcats have a reputation for being finicky, I also know friends to swear by their dependability and many owners have zero issues. I am not a quitter faggot, just looking for tips as I try to dial it in.

does anyone still make a mouse gun in 25 acp? i want to larp as a black drug dealer in the 1970s

>>64397876
Seecamp.

>>64397889
according to their website they only have 32s and 380s

>>64397898
Well fuck you then.

>>64397875
>this is me dipping a toe into semi-auto ownership,
Well thats interesting, you plan on going to 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP

>>64396750
I work armed security and play videogames on my gaming laptop for over half of my shift. Get bent.

>>64397609
Don't stop applying for better jobs once you start this one unc.

>>64397861
As in an additional one or you sold your 357 and bought a new one after a while?

>>64397912
I just prefer revolvers, they suit my needs, I am familiar and competent with them. If I can get this bobcat to purr for me I will probably grab something in 9mm or .45 ACP next year; maybe an M9 or a clone, but that's not on my mind quite yet.

>>64397923
Yeah, I realize that. It's just that "better jobs" tend to be corporate and, well, I run afoul of pic related. After the literal faggot ran my last company into the ground (he was getting goodgoy bux for being "minority owned" as a white homo, but trump ruined that) I tried a corporate gig with good benefits and better pay and the psychopath manager detected that I wasn't a normie and ran me out. I can't fake normal no matter how hard I try. My new manager worked with me for years as a client for my old old job, he's not going to be a problem.
Maybe I can find a side gig I can turn full time. Who knows?

>>64397889
I know I just made a long post about struggling with a new (and mostly improved) tip-up Beretta mouse gun..... But they do have a 21a bobcat in .25, and I think the jetfire is too, and allegedly neither have the same sphincter-aches because it's a more reliable and less dirty round. Worth a look, probably.

>>64394826
Based and poorfag pilled.

>>64394845
I have never shot one, but everyone who has one seems to like it. Plus, they are made in the USA. I completely understand that not everyone can justify a $650 pistol, but you are paying for a fellow America to have a living wage and health insurance.
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/706397943608
Just make sure to order from a place that doesn't charge sales tax if you live in a state with sales tax.
>>64395098
>If you have the scratch, buy American. It’s just the right thing to do,
This.
>I got this classic Colt that was tuned up, bar-sto match barrel, professional trigger job, for only 800 dollars
Very nice. I actually like getting already modified older guns because I don't feel so bad messing with a classic.

>>64395171
Oil vey!

>>64397924
My last .357 was stolen

>>64397955
The M9 is a lovely pistol, 9mm is great to shoot

>>64398177
Out of your car at the parking lot at work?
Asking for a friend.

Is there a button release holster it works for CC9?

>>64397076
This nigga doesn't know about division of labor.
Cleaning is the jannies job. If you do the jannies job too much, he might be eliminated. You clearly have never worked in a union shop.

>>64396935
You could write your own compiler.

>>64397449
Are there any places you could park off property and walk to work? When I go to the post office, I park at the gas station across the street.

>>64398177
I wanted to see her get fucked by that green alien dude

>>64398226
In my unlocked (at the time) car at the front of my goddamn house.

>>64398355
Yachiyo is a pure girl (without booze)

>>64398238
Like an als? No

>>64398327
It's the hood. That's even worse. As I said, I'll probably just leave a gun in the car anyway. The least risky scenario. No federal charges, won't appear on camera, the lot is gated and barb wired. I'll only be vulnerable at work, but it's never than nothing.
>>64398374
And I'll be sure to not leave it in my driveway.
If this becomes a plan I'll get a car safe but let's see how this pans out. I was supposed to start tomorrow but now it's Thursday due to equipment issues. That might be a good thing, but whatever. It means they're fixing the issue I found. This gets better and better. I'm starting to identify with the zoomers.

>>64398405
I typically don't carry at work because it gets in the way (I do real work) even though I have seen my boss buy a gun from an employee in the shop before. Also, guys work on their guns and just bring them in to show off. Oddly, I feel quite safe because I know a lot of them do carry. But yeah, I think your idea is probably pretty solid. I'd still look for work elsewhere since it has so many negative things against it.

>>64398440
>real work
Should I be insulted? I get it tho, if you're doing Mike Roe tier shit I can see how even a mouse gun in a pocket can be an issue.
>So many negative things
It's getting hard to find places that aren't pozzed by modern society that pay worth a fuck and they won't be interested in a middle aged man starting a new career. I found a niche where my anti social affliction is tolerated and that niche is getting smaller and smaller.
I should go play video games or something. Thread is done, I don't feel bad shitting it up further but unless someone wants to recommend a car safe system for an SUV I should quit.

The LTT anchor should be included with every G19

>>64397810

Definitely, I just find they can be a bit bulkier in general.

>>64398481
>Should I be insulted?
No, imo it's a factor for carrying a hangun that is too often omitted, some jobs involve physical activities that may compromise concealment. For example, doing IT, there are jobs where I sit at the desk or in a meeting room and walk between those locations, and there are jobs where I might need to climb under that desk or up a ladder to access some equipment, doing real, hardware, work. In second case there are a lot more restrictions on size, weight, concealability, and retention.

>>64398577
you stippled your gun, it doesn't matter what gay ass opinions you have about firearms, faggot. fuck you.

>>64398629
Would you consider using a trip so I can filter you? Your posts lower the quality of every thread you post in):

>>64398629
try shooting

>>64398386
I see there is multi gun ones but idk if they are any good. Or cc9 will fit them snugly.

>>64398629
Your posts are really low quality across multiple threads

>>64398665
>>64398730
save your faggot ass little bitching for the next hohol cope thread you cocksucking pieces of shit.

>>64398751
Are you going to make me renounce my support of the brave fighters of Donbass just so I’m not on the same side as you?

Just shot a gun for my first time, /hg/
How did I do? I obviously had barely any idea about what I was doing. If I remember correctly, it was a 9x19 Glock. Taking the first shot SUCKS

>>64398778
Was the 10 first shot?

>>64398778
what distance? 10m? i've seen much worse.

>>64398772
you aren't on any side you fuckin keyboard warrior, now shut the fuck up and go suck some more hohol cock you little fag.

>>64398778
Pretty good for the first time, there’s a huge psychological barrier getting over having a thing explode in front of your face

>>64398778
How well you shoot your first few times is only an indicator of how much you know/who taught you.

>>64398816
>>64398816
>>64398816
>>64398816

>>64398783
No
>>64398790
7m
>>64398807
Yeah, the feeling is unique
>>64398822
The only thing I was told was how to grip the gun and how to pull the trigger correctly

>>64398845
That’s pretty good for 7m then, better than my friend’s first attempt.

I accidentally mogged my friend by shooting 25y groups tighter than his 7 yard groups

Thanks for the replies so far, I'll repost in the next thread because I really need some pointers

>>64398701
nta but the cc9 seems like an odd choice for OWB carry.

>>64398796
It'd be one thing if your guns weren't so generic but you insist on reposting the same photos over and over like it's some kind of contribution. A police trade in glock, occasionally in your scrawny little hands, in your LARPer tactical gloves.

>>64398939
>your guns
>guns
>s

>>64398887
True

>>64397875
>it's a finicky piece of shit but please please PLEASE don't tell me that
No, I'm telling you that. You chose a POS with a bad track record and got a lemon. Your fault.
>just looking for tips as I try to dial it in
Frankly that plan's about all you *can* do, barring a million back-and-forth trips to Beretta. Post if you get better (or worse) reliability with a suppressor tho.

>>64393376
You got a good frame

>>64394678
Nice, jxp bro