Thread 64395228

what kind of weaponry could have prevented this situation?

How long do you think Russia will be able to keep this going? I'm wondering if the company balances this year will be bad enough to cause a bank run by the people?

>>64395228 (OP)
Weren’t Russians celebrating capturing Pokrovsk 5 months ago, what happened?

>>64395228 (OP)
What train will run you over dumb nigger lmao

>>64395228 (OP)
How's your defense in the cauldron, zigger?

We're soon entering year 4 of the 3 days SMO and the vatniggers are still celebrating these kind of 'victories'. I simply don't understand what's going on inside their brain

>>64395241
russian town capturing works on valve time for anything with 1k people or more.

>>64395240
The economy isn't the problem. Russia's problem is that they keep losing too much soldiers/equipment as they make gains on the ground; we're already moved from them claiming kilometers in a day to claiming just meters.

>>64395248
>Great Patriotic War lasted for 1,419
>Ukrainian-Russian War has now lasted for 1,328 days
We're 91 days short of Russia's latest self-induced mauling to have lasted as long as the eastern front did during WWII

>>64395228 (OP)
Imagine thinking this is something to be proud of.

>>64395248
crore rupee saaaaaaaaaarrrr

Zoom that map out a little bit anon, you can fit it all in one.

Actual answer, more military aid and more reliable aid, long range systems especially and AA. Ukraine withdrew from Avdiika after Western supplies were halted for a short period and their positions became untenable.
Russian advantages in manpower is hard to counter but if the much touted ratios are even half true (and I don't see why they couldn't be considered how retarded the Russians have been and the numerous dead zigger piles) then the weaponry Ukraine does have is doing a good job of negating it

>>64395228 (OP)
What am I looking at exactly?

>>64395273
the definition of insanity

What does winning look like from ziggers view.

>>64395247
I remember ziggers here saying Pokrovsk would fall by September at the latest.

>>64395228 (OP)
wow you captured a city of 10,000 after 4 years and a million dead, congratulatIons saar

>>64395276
Did they capture something or it just cauldron posting?

>>64395290
cauldron posting

>>64395290
They are trying to recapture positions in the cauldrons.
They are even using armored vehicles.
But so far, nothing is working.
In addition, the weather has deteriorated and now there is mud everywhere on the front line.
Fresh video from Azov: https://x.com/fortifiedtaras/status/1977930110457004098

>>64395228 (OP)
I'll tell you what decision would have prevented this; stubborn refusal to trade ground for a thousand dead russians per day.

>>64395228 (OP)
>Willingly making a comparison between Pokrovsk and the battle that destroyed Russia's capacity to mount even company-sized mechanized attacks.

>>64395248
>We're soon entering year 4
We are already in year 4, bro

>>64395248
>hour 31872 of the 48h ATO in the Donbas

>>64395255
Sort of is a problem in that getting troops is profoundly expensive now as all the low hanging, low-IQ fruit got squished years ago and Pidors from Pidorsberg or Mosqucow are really expensive at about 5-6mil rub each to just get them in door. Then have them expire 12days later as someone drives them like sheep over a cliff.
That kind of churn also means the army never really gains any vetrancy as lessons learned just don't really stick, plus just vast amounts of money gets involved when it comes to equipment, transport, food, fuel, meds etc when you have to repeat that cycle essentially every month.
Like they're literally rebuilding two entire divisions and change a month

>>64395228 (OP)
Remember when that one Russian milblogger revealed that 30,000 men had died taking Avdiivka and within days he an heroed himself to avoid getting sent to an FSB rape gulag?

so whats the estimate on the russian casualties taken on the pokrovsk front so far?

>>64395308
>Day 1,328 of trying this exact same 'no u' tactic

Did they actually capture it? Haven't they been throwing men at this for like 5+ months? I thought Ukraine undermined the northern arm of the cauldron

>>64395313
That northern approach was fucking wild, there was literally a field there they used to make a right turn to head south from after heading west and it was just a whole meat boutique
Any age, shape, colour, weight or whatever you want got blown the fuck up and thrown everywhere.

Mind you in this day and age russian bloggers still seem to dangle their nuts over the candle just to see how close they can get

>>64395326
Nah, they're still set on 'Any Day Now!' setting, the entire northern approach is full of drones, death and mounds of expired meats

>>64395326
10 months. And that's if you start counting from the capture of the village right next door. If you count the overall Pokrovsk offensive it's been 14 months.

>>64395312
>getting troops is profoundly expensive now
>have them expire 12days later
If they die they don't have to pay them. Sucks to be them but I guess there would be still some chumps even in the actually important centers dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda that everything is going great

>>64395341
>If they die they don't have to pay them
you have to pay them before they go to front

>>64395308
>this no u tactic again

>>64395341
They stopped falling for the
>yeah sure, we'll pay you all the money, end of the month bro
line some time ago.
Now they have to stump up the bucks, into their bank account before anyone even considers that scam again, along the way it still gets fleeced off them by MP's, Officers and other gangsters as contract-troops are known to have cash so they attract them like flies on shit

>>64395305
you could technically say we’re in year 14 if you count the War in Donbas as Russias first deployment of combat troops

>>64395261
Glavnet. How does it work?

>>64395273
A divisional sized encirclement just east of the city, coloured in all red on OPs map for some reason

>>64395328
grim

What blew up?

>>64395360
This. Russians will be encircled just like they were at Bakhmut, right before Ukraine took the city back.

>>64395366
>Bakhmut
Isn't it named differently in Pidorstan? Are you trying to discredit the armed forces and wagnerite militans?

>>64395366
The Russians are already encircled, you can see the correct map here >>64395247
That whole "no retreat, no surrender" order is really fucking them, here and also near sumy

>>64395365
if the last few months are anything to go by, at least one refinery and probably also some other shit as well

>>64395261
>20 July
>Frontline hasn't moved
>Zigger posts this as his gotcha
They're not sending their best

>>64395381
>you can see the correct map here
>schizo thinks his brain is connected to the web browser
>he thinks he's pointing to a map in his brain
proof that you have to be literally mentally retarded to believe Ukrainian stories

>>64395391
>Frontline hasn't moved
>only the grey area has moved
>grey area now envelops Kupyansk

>>64395393
What?
Can anyone explain what this brown person is trying to say?

>>64395393
>Russia shills don't know how linking posts in 4chan works
Proof you faggots come here straight from reddit

>>64395247
>>64395401
>>64395398
nobody thinks that copemap is real, not even Ukrainians.

>>64395395
We're talking about Pokrovsk, why are you shifting to another part of the front entirely? Wasn't Pokrovsk supposed to have fallen months ago?
>Russia still hasn't taken Pokrovsk

>>64395341
Sending troops to the front to just die isn't cheap. You've got to equip them in some way, feed them, transport them, you're removing labour and potential providers from the local economies.
Having all these people die for minimal frontline movement is fucking retarded and expensive, especially when the enemy is starting to hit critical infrastructure in your rear lines, your economy is reaching a desperate situation and you needed to have won the war two years ago to make it worthwhile.

>>64395405
Cool, so why hasn't Pokrovsk fallen yet?

>>64395365
>Russia approved a draft law allowing mobilization reserve troops to be deployed during peacetime and outside Russian territory, including Ukraine’s Sumy and Kharkiv oblasts.
>European officials report increased Russian sabotage and cyberattacks. Poland uncovered GRU-linked agents funded via cryptocurrency and declared a “state of war” in cyberspace. Germany warns of a “new level of confrontation,” with Russia probing borders and destabilizing democracies.
>Russia escalated rhetoric against potential US deliveries of Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, citing inability to distinguish nuclear from conventional payloads. This shift follows reports of US intelligence aiding Ukraine’s strikes on Russian energy infrastructure.
>The Kremlin may replace unpopular governors ahead of the 2026 Duma elections to boost public sentiment and distract from economic grievances and war fatigue.
>Ukraine targeted oil infrastructure in Feodosia and Simferopol, damaging multiple fuel tanks and substations. Fires were confirmed via satellite data.
>Russia’s coal industry faces its worst crisis in 30+ years due to sanctions, low global prices, and logistical issues. Losses reached $2.8B in early 2025, threatening jobs and regional budgets.
>Ukrainian forces advanced near Kostyantynivka-Druzhkivka and western Zaporizhia. Russian forces gained ground near Dobropillya, Pokrovsk, Novopavlivka, and eastern Zaporizhia.

https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-13-2025/

>>64395406
>Wasn't Pokrovsk supposed to have fallen months ago?
Years. They've been saying it's about to fall since 2022.

>>64395410
I remember reading reading about this major breakthrough and imminent collapse of Ukraines fortress belt nearly 3 months ago. All the/Chuggers/ were taking HRT and Estrogen cocktails in celebration

https://x.com/petite_michelle/status/1977603353019342926


“It's true. My son lives in Austria. He writes. This year, he bought a stove and uses cow dung he collects in the fields to heat it at night. He can't use it during the day; he doesn't have a license. He washes himself with his dog; there's no hot water, so he soaps it up, and the dog is warm. He just munches on coffee in the morning, and boiling water costs 200 euros straight away.“

...I wonder if he has eaten his hamster yet?

>>64395398
I think our friend is both a phoneposter AND a newfag
probably posting from a shillfarm somewhere, they like to use phones because they are cheaper than PCs and thirdies tend to be more familiar with them

>>64395405
You should tell that to the russians in those pockets, I'm sure they will be very relieved to hear that they are not actually encircled after all

>>64395228 (OP)
Can one side or the other collapse already? It has been essentially a stalemate for 3 years now, coming up on 4.

>>64395247
Last I heard puccia rushed about an entire division into this slaughterhouse, I thought that would surely mean they would find a way out of that mess, but this shit is still ongoing? That is capital G Grim

>>64395447
Patience anon.

What will the cope be when Ukraine inevitably surrenders and Russia keeps the four regions?
>enjoy the ashes, Russians!
>Ukraine won, because Ukraine still exists
>we didn't want those regions anyway!
>Russia lost 6 gorillion troops, so they lost
Zelenskyy will be on his beach front mansion doing gargantuan lines of coke. What wilk you be doing? Other than suicide?

>>64395458
Why worry about something that won't happen? Isn't that the zigger way?

>>64395460
Reality is going to hit you like a freight train (get it, Pajeet?). Your only hope is to develop a cynical outlook and convince yourself that you never believed in Ukrainian victory, not really.

>>64395415
I went back to look because I thought there was no possible way that could be accurate and... Well

>>64395458
This is the 4th year of vatfrican gloating about Ukraine's inevitable surrender, it's truly marvellous how much progress we've been able to make towards TZD in that time.

>>64395458
>when Ukraine inevitably surrenders
14 days?

>>64395463
>projecting pajeetness onto others
Not a single original thought, how sad.

>>64395458
>Ukraine won, because Ukraine still exists
considering that russias original goal was to take their capital and install a puppet regime, wouldnt ukraines existence be definitionally a strategic failure?

>>64395420
That'll learn the insufferable faggot for living in a non-NATO, neutral country!
Stinky alp germans don't bathe anyway

>>64395458
back to leftypol commie

>>64395466
In a way, we owe a debt to all the puccian shills online, their steadfast morale improoovement operations for the mighty bear have kept an earnest trickle of zigzogs marching to a gory, televised death

>>64395473
the initial goal doesn't matter, nor do any of the subsequent goals
the only goal that matters in the minds of shills like OP is whatever goal they can claim was achieved by the result

>>64395458
>What wilk you be doing? Other than suicide?
Well nothing, since in this scenario you made up I'm committing suicide so I can't do anything else

>>64395458
How will Russia react when Ukraine inevitably joins NATO?

>>64395483
Nice cope. Trump is best friends with Putin

>>64395458
You forgot to mention preventing "NATO expansion" from countries like Finland and Sweden joining being another of their major goals.
Oh, wait. They did join.

>>64395485
Which is why he is openly talking about tomahawks to ukraine?

>>64395479
It's morale improovement purely for the mentally ill degens that russia cultivates. Russians don't need that kind of persuasion to throw their dogshit lives away for putin, just the tenuous promise of about 6 months wages as a signing bonus. Russia shits up this Mongolian Nickelodeon forum for the same reason it shits up thousands of square miles of Ukraine: If vatfricans can't have it then it must be ruined.

This is how much the lines have moved in 2025.
One is from 1 January, other from today.

This makes ww1 look like the fall of france in comparison

>>64395485
From this I can safely assume that the seethe will be monumental when it happens
when, not if

>>64395503
neat, you can actually see the ground the russians have lost around Pokrovsk if you look closely