Thread 64397939

I know how /k/ feels but Russians really do make the coolest firearms. Mainly due to corruption and trying to make anything that will stick for ez rubles.

I'm pretty sure a taboo factor is at play in addition to the guns having a unique style

>>64397939 (OP)
>multiple pro ruzzian threads popped up at the same time
that picrel is pretty cool doe, I'm surprised FSB bots don't shill it more

AK's are cool looking, but the platform is outdated as fuck. To get an AK to have modern shit on it makes it weight way more than an equivalent AR.

>>64397965
>>multiple pro ruzzian threads popped up at the same time
Where?

>>64397939 (OP)
They seem cool because they're whacky and different. They also don't work properly because they're whacky and different (in addition to usual reasons for Russian stuff not working properly). Picrel and the entire design family are a great example. Subsonic "sniper rifles" with terrible bullpup triggers, a 2.2kg pistol, a sniper rifle based on an AK action with a 2 inch barrel (before porting)... So much of the dumb shit Russia does with small arms could never happen in a country with common civil firearms ownership.

The "cool" factor is novelty. The novelty comes from doing something that is such an inherently shit idea that no one else does it.

>>64398006
Hey man they made rifle that instead of shoot 1 bullet it shoot 2 bullets at once. That means more damage.

>>64398005
Are you fucking joking?

FOUR of the ten threads on the front page right now are straight pro-Russian propaganda either made and bumped by a cum guzzling Russaboo, or FSB glowfaggot employed shills.
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>>64398035
I played Stalker Anomaly a while ago and was thinking how cool the guns were and then I made this thread

>>64398006
>a sniper rifle based on an AK action
this is inaccurate. there is an outward resemblance and similar controls, but they differ mechanically.

>>64398075
Sure, I believe you. It doesn't change that the board is being raided by vatnik rape babies from the vicinity of the Urals right now.

>>64398035
The ammo one isn't Russia shilling, more of a nostalgic remembrance of CHEAP ammunition. Are you the eurotard soapboxing in that thread? If so, I hope you get a Russian bullet between your eyes

>>64398090
No, the internals are very similar as well, and all of the principles of operation are the same. It's only slightlt less similar than a Tabuk but much more similar than a SVD.

>>64398104
I'm not going to wade into an argument about it, but Russian shit didn't make ammo expensive, Sandy Hook and the media-fueled perpetually heightened state of public anxiety did. I do think it's a thread made by a shill because framing it in terms if "Where is my Russian ammo?" instead of "Why did ammo prices never recover after Sandy Hook?" seems like an intentional reach.

>>64397965
A significant amounf of pro-Ukraine people only sided with Ukraine because it reminded them of the Gazan underdog. Now that Israel/Gaza has been settled, people no longer see the need to arbitrarily align themself with Ukraine.

>>64398104
>Are you the eurotard soapboxing in that thread?
And no, I'm not. I haven't posted in that thread.

>>64398135
apologies, I incorrectly recalled that the VSS used a sort-stroke piston. thanks for the correction

>>64398163
>please argue about jews, muslims and middle east skub instead of discussing the ongoing FSB and leftpol raids
It's all so tiresome.

>>64398156
Sandy Hook was definitely a shift. That was when even Mosins tripled in price. But I really don't remember the ammo situation being particularly bad until 2020. Russian ammo post 2020 to 2022 is irrelevant because wolf .223 was still .55 cents per round.
I blame 2020 as the finishing move
>>64398169
Alright, cool

>>64398178
No problem king, don't forget to dream of a better world without Russia today.

>>64398180
That's not at all what I said or implied; in fact, it isn't even close. If you're actually this retarded and ignorant then it's no wonder your beloved weapons subreddit went to hell.

I'm sorry anon. This board left behind its libertarianism for /pol/ nazism, it left its nazism for Russian hate and goreposting, and now it is leaving that for... something else.

Not sure what is next at this point.

>>64398182
Nah, for example 9mm quadrupled in price overnight from Sandy Hook and never fully recovered. There are other charts out there with other calibers and stuff. Prices had been rising before then (the agitation I was talking about, not clear whether it's externally driven or just emerging from social media adoption) but Sandy Hook was a watershed moment.

>>64398163
>only sided with Ukraine because it reminded them of the Gazan underdog
/k/ predominately sided with Ukraine because Russian shills have been thumping their chests for decades about stronk Russia is; so when they fell flat on their face everybody pointed and laughed. Once that happened the shills doubled down to save face, which only made people hate them more. It's simple really.

>>64398229
>so when they fell flat on their face
Yes, that is definitely what someone arguing in good faith would call conquering and holding a fifth of the opposing territory for years straight. What a humiliating defeat for Russia.

>>64398256
When you reach your enemy's capital city and get pushed back to that fifth of the territory while also losing an uncountable amount of troops, it is a humiliating defeat.
Let me guess, are you going to say they never lost Kiev?

>>64398256
>holding 1/5th of Ukraine after a five years, one million dead and their entire armored stockpile depleted
I remember when you niggers said Berlin in two weeks. You can't even protect the cool soviet technology you inherited/stole.

>>64398256
I forget that getting pushed back with alternating periods of stalemate actually means victory.

>>64397939 (OP)
I like my KP-9 but it is a shame the design is disposable. Allegedly the Russians would get 20k rounds through them before the receiver was fucked and they’d just replace it with a new one. There’s no spare parts for them in the US anymore, so you’re shit out of luck if something breaks unless K-USA ever comes back.

>>64398281
>>64398277
>you're not winning hard/fast enough!
>so what if Chinese troops invaded the US through Canada in 2020 and conquered Washington, Idaho, and Montana. They aren't to DC or Texas yet so it doesn't count!

>>64398219
>well if I can't interest you in a distracting skub argument about the middle east, what about a skub argument about political alignments
If you aren't what I'm accusing you of, then yoh must be an incredibly annoying person who everyone tries to avoid talking to IRL.

>>64398256
>>64398294
Ahahaha holy fuck the mask fell off fast here.

>>64398294
Stalemates and losing obscene numbers of troops is not victory, your shitty analogy doesn't change that. Russia isn't winning.

>>64398294
Oh right, you won't say that Russia was literally inside Kiev. How could I forget that? It goes against your programming.

>>64398294
>it's like if China invaded the US!
No it's like if America invaded Mexico and failed fucking miserably.

>>64398307
>mask
What mask? I want /k/ to go back to libertarianist boating meme. I personally don't give a fuck about two of the most corrupt and feminist countries on the planet eliminating their excess male population.
>>64398308
Obviously they aren't losing nearly as bad as people say, otherwise Ukraine would have their borders intact.
>>64398320
Interestingly, you could argue that America did invade Mexico in a way (by crashing American corn prices with subsidies), thus killing off Mexican corn cultivation, and failing miserably by causing a huge influx of immigrants who previously made a living in agriculture.

>>64398294
I mean, it's literally just a matter of time before the Russian empire collapses in on itself.
There was a chance for them to end the war on favorable terms, there was a possibility they could have salvaged their economy and kept the system chugging along, but that time has long since passed.
Russia is completely unable to disrupt long range drones from entering their country, the rate at which key infrastructure like oil refineries and weapon factories has accelerated; it is a mathematical certainty that Russia will run out of steam, and that calculation gets more and more unfavorable by the day.

>>64398334
>retarded /pol/ nigger can't figure out why he doesn't fit in and immediately outs himself with every post

>>64398351
>he doesn't fit in!
Good as I don't want to fit in with the Ukraine's finest reddit brigade. I want /k/ to go back to being a libertarian-leaning firearms discussion board.

>>64397939 (OP)
Their guns are neat. Too bad all the shit ones are common and the cool ones are never made beyond a dozen and sent to the 469th Stalin's Rimmers border patrol regiment to rot

>>64398360
>I want things to stay the same and never change!
>T. 5 year old

>>64398334
>Interestingly, you could argue that America did invade Mexico in a way
The pivot with russian shills is incredible, the whataboutism flows like a river

>>64398334
>What mask? I want /k/ to go back to libertarianist boating meme. I personally don't give a fuck about two of the most corrupt and feminist countries on the planet eliminating their excess male population.
The mask that lets you pretend to be a human being instead of a mouthpiece for Russian propaganda. Assuming you are what you say, you need to get the fuck out of the pseudo-libertarian Mises Caucus social media bubble, because it was taken over by Russian intelligence quite some time ago. You believe yourself a smart person who listens to other smart people in a media set you've cultivated for yourself, you could never be a critical piece of Russia's oldest intelligence playbook, right? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot)

>>64398294
No this would be the equivalent of China invading through Canada and getting stopped at Chicago and claiming every hour that DC is just a week away for two years

>>64398163
> People who believe in lethal force to protect their home from invaders sided with the country using lethal force to protect their home from invaders.

More news at 11.

>>64398360
>I don't want combat footage on /k/!
Fag, also why aren't you posting cool russian weapons? Surely slurping off the Duma nets you at least some PNGs

>>64398367
>>64398368
A nuke could fall on Moscow tomorrow and I wouldn't care at all because I don't obsess over foreign countries being le bad or le good. Same with Kiev/Kyiv. What I do fucking care about is my income being parasitically drained to pay for it.
So what's the argument now?

>>64397948
Yeah in the 80 and 90s. Now? Doubt.
Remember, I fucking had to hide from russian nuclear weapons as a child. That they never came was nice but we still ran from bells and got in a bunker once a year. And I collect russian shit too, so we don't forget.
My first day of kindergarten was the first day of MTV I think lol.

>>64398006
Their crew served stuff is fine from the DShK to anything which fires the 14.3mm even the PTRD. Their sub-machineguns were also good during WW2 and would be fine with modern manufacturing making mags which would work in any gun. There is also that 4 gauge shotgun which is made from reprocessed anti-material barrels. Russia can make fun and often effective small arms, and even small artillery. The issue is more that the entire structure of their military undermines their natural advantages. If you had good crew served weapons and artillery you should focus on maximizing the logistical support for those weapons and encouraging the active use of them on the battlefield by everyone from local commanders to grunts. But commie shit and then post-commie paranoia meant that was impossible. Insane enthusiastic drunk slavs are exactly the kind of guys you want when it comes to actively engaging the enemy on their on initiative, but their passion is wasted by a system which not only doesn't reward or facilitate their behavior but punishes it.

An army of shitty but "good'nuff" weapons supported by a massive effective logistics train looks good on paper but was failed by the command and control structure in practice.

>>64398377
Gore isn't SFW. That is a fact and no one can argue in good faith that the average employer would be OK with their employees watching HD drone dismemberment on work devices during work hours.

>>64398378
It's so interesting to me that while professing how little you care about it, you continue to post every kremlin talking point as if working down a list, like how is cyberbullying real nigga, just walk away

>>64398256
Only a fifth? KEK

>>64398378
>He thinks supporting Ukraine is the reason why he's broke
Surely, it must be the 10 cents per paycheck going to Ukraine that must be why I'm poor, and not the 6000% pay increase the (((CEO))) of my company has taken over my lifetime!

>>64398387
It's generally ill advised to browse 4chan on your work computer, doubly so during work hours

>>64398387
>I s-should be safe browsing 4chan at work
THIS is what a redditor sounds like. Also post cool russian shit you turb faggot

>>64398294
>invade a country right next door with 1/20 the number of active tanks, 1/3 the active personnel, 1/10 your air force, equipped with similar weapons
>invade a power across the sea which has 50 modern SSNs vs your 3, with three times the armor you have, ten times your air force, with a population with probably 1 billion civilian firearms and the ability to make dynamite at any moment
These are not equivalent, if the Chinks did as well in some hypothetical invasion of America as Russia has in Ukraine they would be lauded as stupid and over ambitious but competent.

>>64398182
Euromaidan. EVERYONE in slav-land started arming up, and the middle east had just finished their shit too so...
Another case of "infinite soviet surplus" being not.

>>64398407
Something about the baggy camo and Adidas is 10/10 cool

>>64398392
You are incapable of understanding nuance.
>>64398392
You jump at shadows like a schizophrenic.
>>64398400
>>64398407
That's not the point, but you knew that and are not arguing in good faith. If 4chan claims blue boards are SFW, and if /k/ is a blue board, then gore posting (which is objectively not SFW) should not be allowed.
>>64398411
>they would be lauded as stupid and over ambitious but competent.
But no one would be saying they weren't winning hard or fast enough.

>>64398378
>blacks and spics cost the empire 2 trillion annually
>jews cost God knows how much
>libtards allocate another billion to useless shit
>its the Russian war which is sucking the treasury dry

C'mon man, if we didn't have these scum we could afford three simultaneous GWOTs and still run a budget surplus. We could fuck with the Ruskies and Chinks so hard. Remember just because you hate Globohomo doesn't mean you can't hate Gulaghomo.

>>64398163
>only sided with Ukraine because it reminded them of the Gazan underdog
I don't see the entire West arming Ham Ass for free and cheering their small hat enjoying leader on to slaughter the invaders in the media. There *is* an ME entity that fits that basic description though.

>>64398256
It's like this post was purposefully crafted to validate everything I said.

>>64398421
Yes anon, if we lived in a utopia and everyone followed the rules then gore posting would be not allowed
But then you should probably also cease meta posting like you are doing, global rule 8 is in effect, after all
Perhaps we should all act like rule enforcement has always been patchy at best instead?

>>64398421
Hey Carol in anon's HR department this guy is a FAGGOT and spamming off topic shit without contributing

>>64398378
>What I do fucking care about is my income being parasitically drained to pay for it.
>So what's the argument now?
Your income isn't parasitically drained for it. Not one cent of it. It's funded by debt, and the debt is paid for by foreign citizens. The debt is repaid by more debt paid for by foreign citizens.

The foreign citizens voluntarily pay this extra-territorial tax to the US to act as the world's reserve bank and police/military force. The entire system relies on the US being a trustworthy and powerful party, since that's the key criteria for being either a bank or a police force people want. The US gets to roll in money as a result and enjoy the advantages of controlling the reserve currency, deciding the edge cases for rules enforcement and getting preferential prioritisation for policing.

The entire system is literally your wet fucking dream, but you've been conditioned to pretend it's not and hate it.

Last fully accounted year (2023) the US took $4.4t in revenue, only 2.2t of that in income tax, but spent 6.1t. For every dollar you contributed, a dollar was contributed by a transnational based in America to enjoy the benefits of the security guarantees described, and another dollar was contributed by voluntary, mostly foreign, taxpayers (bonds).

I will not entertain this conversation further. Stop gargling propaganda, swallowing a little, and spitting the rest out back into conversations like this. I already had to wait 10 minutes to post this because of a temp ban from your saar friends reporting me for off topic posting and trolling, in a thread where I'm the only fucking person who has made any actual on topic posts of greater than 0 value, so you can go and absolutely fuck yourself. You're either paid to troll this board with Russian propaganda, or you're so fucking conditioned by it that you reflexively do it without even realising what it is and what you're doing.

Pic: Cooler guns than anything from Russia ever.

>>64398384
No one is ever talking about any of those in these threads though (except maybe the ks23, but that's not here). Everyone always means terrible meme shit like the Groza, VSS, ASH etc. To the people who post these threads, something like a dooshka is the most boring and lame thing imaginable - it's old and even has some wood on the furniture and it's shaped like a normal gun!

>>64398360
I'm still pretty libertarian at my core on social issues, despite this site's drift towards bootlickery over the years, but geopolitics is a separate issue. What's the libertarian argument for Soviet revanchism? I really wanna hear it.

Here's my moist nugget and dick grip Makarov, but had for well under $200 back in the day (unfortunately I missed out on the sub $100 era of slavshit). Let's see yours if you've really been here that long.

>>64398483
>‘Goyim [non-Americans] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of America.” He continued saying, ‘Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.' He added, “With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this American.”
-Quote from a former Chief Rabbi of America.

>>64398421
4chan's version of "safe for work" was always meant to be taken a bit loosely, and moot said as much back in the day. Someone else might have a screencap of it. Gore was always given some leniency here if it was specifically related to weapons and warfare. It's only after 2022 that I've seen people incessantly bitching about gore here, and only ever when it's Russians. They're as quiet when it's Ukrainians as they were when it was the Tongo Tongo ambush reposted 500 times.

>>64398542
I already rejected you trying to change the topic onto an argument about jews or something, and what you posted has nothing to do with what I posted. America's government, and certainly military support to fuck Russia, isn't paid for by "gentile Americans plowing fields", it's mostly paid for basically voluntarily by (foreign) companies and the (foreign) bond market.

>>64398555
>(foreign)
Yes, the goyim (nations).

>>64398574
You gonna post your guns Mr. Oldfag?

>>64397994
I want an AK in 5.56
because.

>>64398163
/K/ has been almost entirely pro Ukraine from the very beginning of this shitshow.

>>64398163
Slight correction:
A significant amount of pro-Ukraine Americans sided with Ukraine because the US government, mainstream media, and celebrities told them that a bunch of retarded slavs slapfighting halfway around the world was worth their money. A significant amount of pro-Ukrainian Europeans sided with Ukraine because their governments told them that they would be invaded next if they didn't, even though it's been fairly obvious for a couple of years now that Russia can't handle Ukraine, never mind the rest of Europe.

Aside from establishing the drone meta, the entire thing has been incredibly tiresome and wasteful. 1/5 stars would not give money to slavs again.
>inb4 russian shill
Fuck Russia and fuck Ukraine. I hope that they both cease to exist, but Russia goes first. I want Ukraine to stick around until they've paid us back every single fucking dollar and euro that we dumped into their corrupt asses, plus interest, and then they can go too.

>>64398035
Hahahahahaha the faggot Russian shills brigade reported me for this post pointing out their psyop and I've been getting temp bans and warnings ever since despite being the only on topic poster in the thread.

Suck my fucking nuts all of you freedom-hating swine. The coolest gun is the 1911, and it won TWO WORLD WARS, something Russia barely even managed once and even then only because it got carried by Belarusian and Ukrainian talent, and American industry.

Captcha: WW2GD

>>64398334
>Russia
>Feminist
lolwut, of all the adjectives you could've chosen?
Russia passed a law in 2017 which gives a free pass for an annual wife beating and they're one of the most insecure countries on earth when it comes to the desire to be seen as macho and manly. I can not think of a less feminist non-muslim country.

>>64398606
That's because the mods have been censoring any opinion that isn't pro-Ukraine and while allowing off topic threads that are pro-Ukraine.
There isn't any difference between reddit and this place.

>>64398612
>their money
Americans don't pay for America being the world police. Quite the opposite, they get paid for it. See >>64398483

>>64398606
The only difference is back in 2014 no one really knew wtf was going on, and Russia (donbabwe) definitely had the edge on kino

>>64398647
Lmao bullshit. I've been temp banned and warned dozens of times for posting anti-Russian shit, or even just calling out their spin jobs, including this very day in this very threas. The idea that mods enforced a pro-Ukrainian narrative is a load of shit.

>>64398294
>>64398334
>>64398360
Post gun, my based oldfag /k/ommando, and BTFO all these hohol redditors!.

>>64397994
That's why the motto is nyet, rifle is fine. Never has a fully modern tacticool AK looked good however you're lying through your teeth if you don't find some variation of the classic AK at least a little cool

>>64398647
Or maybe it's because /k/ is pro self defence

>>64398604
Hmm so there’s an mk47 that’s like an m4 with 7.62 mags, has there been the inverse: something like an ak design that takes stanag mags

>>64397939 (OP)
I dunno why, but the VSK doesn't really tickle my pickle. VSS/AS VAL? Oh yeah. Ash 12.7? You bet. But the VSK? Nothing. Totally flaccid.

>>64397994
It's not a platform but a rifle after all

>>64398651
>Americans don't pay for America being the world police
Then explain that to the IRS next April. See if you can convince them to give me a break, because I'm currently paying out the ass for something and I don't feel like I'm getting a good return on my investment.

>>64398163
russians are niggers with white skin

>>64398421
>But no one would be saying they weren't winning hard or fast enough.
China using force of arms to get boots on the ground in the US AT ALL would be a turning point in world history because it would mean that the combined might of the US military - nuclear arsenal included - couldn't stop them storming across the entire Pacific and planting their flag whereas Russia not only dramatically outclasses Ukraine across the board by every metric aside from foreign goodwill and standard of living but forcibly annexed a sizable chunk of it in the last decade and shares a land border that is several thousand miles long.

>>64399135
You're paying for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security mostly. Go complain about it to the boomers on Facebook.

>>64398612
A celebrity didn’t do shit neither did the media. Russia invaded and Ukraine is defending itself. Pretty self explanatory why people side with the defender

>>64399193
As are hohols?
Slavs are all the same retard.

>>64399348
Judging from what I’ve seen they aren’t since they actually try to improve their lives and tell their leaders to suck shit every so often

>>64399348
>le both sides

>>64399354
lmao you're fucking clueless
Back in the day Ukraine was even more corrupt and broke than Russia. Most of the country except for Kiev was a ghetto village shithole because the mafia (oligarchs) just funneled tax and bribe money into the capital. Which is literally what happened in Russia as well.
Ukranians are bydly chav niggers that come to your countries to live off your benefits and steal copper retard. The people that actually interact with them in Poland and the states hate them to guts.
You just picked a side and humanize it while dehumanizing the opposition like a good goycattle specimen cause the media told you to feel this way (wow it's le good fight like the empire and da rebels!)
All slavs are the same genetically and prone to the same shit like buying BMWs and killing your family on a vodka binge because you looked at him him weird.

>>64399383
No because I can actually see and look at shit besides running off shit from the fucking 1990s. Fucking you’re such cocksucker you can’t even hold a conversation without blaming the media which never brought up to begin with. Also you have got to have the dumbest reasons I’ve ever seen. It’s quite clear you’re a vatnik trying to hide behind muh both sides argument because you still think Poland seethes at Ukraine for something back in 1920. You instantly blame anyone having a different opinion than you as brainwashed by the media and bring up Star Wars for something reason. Post your fucking guns you literal faggot

>>64398704
There are magwell attachment that accepts stanag mags, not sure if that counts?

>>64399407
Ukranians aren't white.

>>64399410
Says who? Some retard on a water purification forum?

>>64399325
Those programs will eventually be of direct concern to me, unlike Ukraine and Russia. I'd like them to still be around when I retire, unlike Ukraine and Russia. They benefit (mostly) Americans, unlike Ukraine and Russia. Your analogy is shit. I will not complain about it on Facebook because I don't spend time there. I'll complain about it here, it'll rankle NPC's like you, you'll give me my (you) because you're easily manipulated, and then I'll prod you some more because I enjoy watching you perform as programmed, and when you receive your next illogical program in 2026, I'll make fun of you for that too.
>>64399334
Were you cheering for Georgia in 2008? No, you weren't. You get a pass for that because you weren't alive back then, but for the NPC's that were capable of rational thought 17 years ago, didn't give a shit about it because they weren't told to, and now give a shit about this? They deserve scorn and ridicule. Also
>Pretty self explanatory why people side with the defender
LOL. LMAO even. Not a history buff, are you?

>>64399407
nah, he's right, both are basically just white niggers. Though I do have to say that calling Russians "white" is quite a stretch, I think technically Russia is more Asian/Mongol than white since losing eastern Europe.

>>64399383
>You just picked a side and humanize it while dehumanizing the opposition like a good goycattle specimen cause the media told you to feel this way
Ukraine isn't perfect but Russians are still worse. They're jeet tier street shitters who believe they're the master race and think everyone doesn't agree should be forced to their level. Source: live right next to Russia

>>64399422
>Were you cheering for Georgia in 2008? No, you weren't.
I was and hoped the Orange Revolution would steer Ukraine away from Russia back in fucking 2004

>>64399422
>Were you cheering for Georgia in 2008
Yes you vatnik even back then I knew that shit was unjustified but then again I didn’t pay attention to it because it ended in like 2 weeks
> LOL. LMAO even. Not a history buff, are you?
I know the clankening told Russians to fuck off and they chomped out invading and occupying Crimea then claimed there were “rebels” who wanted to be heckin Russian so bad they just had to invade to stop mean Ukraine. Get fucked Vasily

>>64399422
You are so smart. The reason there was no widespread effort to arm the Georgians is because everyone back then thought Russian revanchism was cool and good.

>>64399436
Two different ukranian "families" rented a house next to mine. All they did is trash the place, park dozens of totaled cars from copart to fix and flip at later date and making the neighborhood look like a junkyard, BBQ and get wasted at 11PM SCREAMING loud af and having fights on weekdays with their friends, listen to loud fucking slavic rap and let their kids run off to steal amazon packages and jump infront of cars unironically. Oh and do burnouts in E90 bmws on the cul de sac for insta clout or something along the lines.
Reminded me a whole lot about another highly melanated race.

>>64399457
And you live where exactly?

>>64399464
916

>>64399422
>welfare leech

>>64399464
And they magically got bmws in Sacramento?

Why do pro russian faggots act so predictably then complain when people accurately predict their behavior

>>64399479
What?

>>64399482
Meant for>>64399465

>>64399489
Yeah i know.
What the fuck are you asking exactly.

>>64399491
How are Ukrainian refugees getting bmws in where you live

>>64398612
>the drone meta
Midwit moment
>THINGIE WITH CAMERA HAS LOTS OF CLIPS OF IT BLOWING UP ENEMY
>THINGY WITH CAMERA MUST BE 200x AS EFFECTIVE AS THINGY WITHOUT CAMERA
4pt22x

>>64399511
The monthly payment for a 335i is like $200 a month with zero down.

>>64399511
They get CDLs in 5 days and drive semi trucks and kill americans like that indian that can't even speak or read english?
That's what like half of the hohols that came to the states on a U4U program did, drive trucks.

>>64399514
I'm now picturing the survivorship bias B-17 diagram but the bullet holes are just extra cameras.

>>64399530
Except drones account for the majority of casualties

>>64398256
lmao every goddamn time

>weapon thread
>zigger shills flood in
Fuck off, animals. Worse than chinks, I swear.
>>64397939 (OP)
I always wanted a Mak. There's something aesthetically pleasing about it.
>inb4 dickgrip jokes

>>64399383
I hate to break it to you but most of us really, REALLY don't care. I hope in a vague way that both Ukraine and Russia throw off their Soviet hangover and get their shit together so life there is worth living, but in the meanwhile I will continue to enjoy Russia's ongoing and abject humiliation simply because the Russians have made themselves incredibly easy to dislike, often intentionally.

The fucking phase of the moon probably has more impact on my life than some mobik getting cubed half a world away and as such I can just sit back and bask in the embarrassment of riches provided by Russian incompetence. Sturmladas, 40% of their strategic bombers going up in smoke, the sinking of the Moskva, Prigozhin's thunder run on Moscow, the de facto extinction of the VDV - it's all just so much sweet nectar to my soul after a lifetime of exposure to their smug, obnoxious self-promotion.

>>64398163
i live near russia
russia invades other countries
i dont want that to happen to us
so i support sending arms to countries getting invaded by russia

>>64399457
Okay.

lmao, russians throwing literal shit at each other.

>"I totally don't care"
>has a hours-long crashout repeating kremlin talking points
Why are they like this?

>>64399480
FASD

>>64397939 (OP)
No, they don't, you fucking faggot. They make the worst ones, and also the ugliest ones.

>>64399618
Not only that, but he never posted guns either. I own more Russian guns than he does.

>>64397965
>multiple
>current running threads 2

>they dont shill it more
i mean remember the turks?

>>64397939 (OP)
They have made SOME cool guns in the past. Key word being some. Even then, most of their stuff is outdated and only really good for historical value. CZ Scorpion? Yeah. Ak’s? No thank you.
Would I prefer a Russian gun over nothing in an apocalypse? Yes. Would I prefer it over a western made AWP, m4, strut, or an AR? Or hell even a beretta? No.

>>64400173
Steyr* not strut

Aks are very very heavy also

>>64400173
>CZ
Anon, CZ guns are czech…

Česká zbrojovka (Czech armory)

>>64400188
Same thing

>>64397939 (OP)
I can’t like them because my Jewish leaders told me they were the enemy

>>64398223
>9mm quadrupled in price overnight from Sandy Hook and never fully recovered.
???
9mm can still be had for $204 per 1000 round brick shipped at sgammo.
Like .20 a pop. It's cheap shit magtech ammo and it's steel case, but it's there.
The $200 brick has been around the same baseline cost for 10-20 years even though we've had mega inflation since.
Really, taking inflation into account, it's the cheapest it's ever been.

>>64400196
So Colt is now Russian?

>>64397939 (OP)
I really like it, they seem to have a lot of cool, slightly questionable tacticool stuff

>>64400196
>russians call everything russian slavic so they can claim everything slavic as russian
a tale as old as time

>>64397939 (OP)
>Russians really do make the coolest firearms
>>64397948
>a taboo factor is at play

>>64399537
Drones account for the majority of Russian field hospital occupancy, because their field hospitals are set up outside of artillery range but inside drone range. No one is going out to the front to recover a dying zigger from a bukhanka that got shelled and drag him back to the hospital.

Big fan of the tkb 022. bakelite furniture does it for me man.

>>64400802
That is the ugliest gun I've ever seen

>>64400802
Knowing how mad American soldiers get when they hold a regular bull-pup I can't begin to imagine the amount of seethe when one picks up this thing. I, too, am a fan of 16.3 INCH barrels in a P90 OAL

>>64400819
That's not a picture of a Daniel Defense AR-15 though

>>64398604
Your best bet will be that Polish ak that fires 5.56.

>>64400826
meh-that's not even in the same league of ugliness

>>64400196
not at all retard

>>64398334
>libertarianist
Libertarians are crypto commie faggots that larp that they want freedom, but actually want to smoke weed and troon out underage kids. They're no different than karl the cuck karsada.

>>64399438
Sure you did, kid.
>>64399439
>you vatnik
Like pottery.
>>64399447
Or more likely (from someone that was an adult back then), normies didn't care because nobody told them to. They generally couldn't find it on a map, much like they couldn't find Ukraine on a map. I'm glad that you know what's going on though. You're the smart one, not me.

I can't wait to see what you automatons get wound up over next year, but I'm sure that it'll make its way here, as it always does.

>>64403641
>like pottery
You mad you got called out faggot?

>>64397939 (OP)
If i could grab three guns from the russians i think it would be a 74U, a MP412, and a A-91 but that last one is because A-91 in GFL is crazy hot and it has warped my perception of the gun
God i love this crazy drunk bitch

>Look at that silly Russian bringing a knife to g-aaack

It was a Gknife all along

>>64405774
Anon, I'm looked at your picture and I happened upon a thought.
Where backblast going?

I don't care at all for most Russian guns, but I would commit a lot of crimes for an AN-94

>>64400802
>>64407378
It's disappointing because the chamber is so far ahead of the magazine. You could fit another 2" of barrel in there if you tried harder.

>>64407378
Why are extreme designs like this pioneered, sometimes even beyond the proof of concept stage, and then abandoned immediately and forever? You'd think that with the decades of cumulative improvements in firearms design between then and now someone would eventually come along and reinvigorate the concept. I suppose the obvious answer is, "Because it's a shit idea," but if it works, it can be made reliable, and if it can be made reliable, it could confer a massive advantage. You could build one of these Soviet fever dream bullpups around an intermediate cartridge and you'd have exactly what the US is shopping for rn: long range, flat trajectory, large bullet, compact silhouette

Is the PKM/PKP the only good Russian small arm (when judged against modern peers)? The AK platform in general isn't particularly well suited to modernization and the only thing going for it is how cheaply you can make them. PKM/PKP at least is very light for its weight class, though the shitty barrel change system is a minus. I know it beats itself to death because of how light it is, though I feel like not being able to have a machinegun of theseus isn't *that* big of a negative for anyone except penny pinchers in congress.

>>64407928
The PKP is like 50 MOA. It's an emotional support weapon, designed to turn bullets into morale. It can't actually kill anyone outside 100 yards without getting exceptionally lucky.

>>64400196
Fuck off and die.
t. Czech

>>64400544
this piston ammo for shotguns would be awesome, think about it. if you could make it reusable, even if not immiedietly, like you gotta take it home, degas it, reset it up, even if that shit was expensive, you just buy 4-6 of them, load yourself up 100% silent buckshot/birdshot and go hunting without having to worry about your own ears or scaring prey away. it would be perfect for fudds. and imagine having 6-8 of these for home defense. you get to fire a shotgun in enclosed spaces, in your home, kill home invaders dead and not even wake the neighbor. in that situation if you REALLY need to go past 5-6 shots, then fuck it, move to the loud stuff, your fighting 3-4 people anyways and better deaf then dead. the space you get in a shotgun shell should make it waaay easier to make a piston style round

>>64398604
Get polish AK - wz. 96 Beryl

Hahhah silly Russians don't I'm safe underwa-AACK!

>>64407407
Blow back in your face. It'd be unpleasant.

>>64408320
The full size Beryl is kinda ugly
Mini-Beryls a cute though, want one

Rate gear.
>Ukrainian soldiers destroyed a group from russia's "Senezh" special forces center

>>64400196
Shut up Karl

>>64408874
>gas mask
For what purpose?

>>64408928
Ziggers use grenades with chloropicrin.
I think for this purpose.

Dis shit baffles me fr

>>64405631
ok maybe I would like a A 91 too

>>64407869
Because it's cheaper to keep making what you are already making when what you are making already works well enough. Officers looked at not only this one but several prototype rifles made throughout the 1950s-1990s and said, oh well it is definitely functionally better than an AK, but not ENOUGH better to warrant replacing the inventory. This is exactly what happened to the XM8/G36 as well, so it is not a nation-specific issue. Also the same reason bullpups are doomed. Everyone has already standardized on the AR and AR-compatible parts. In order to actually force militaries to adopt new shit you need to either make a breakthrough in warfare to make the current gun extremely suboptimal or create a gun that is truly groundbreaking in a new way. And even in the latter case you can still fail at that if the new weapon suddenly loses all funding and interest due to collapsing enemies (G11). Shorter barrel lengths and 10% decreases in malfunctions are just not appealing enough to militaries for them to overhaul their tooling and aftermarket parts

>>64400196
This summarizes the current state of this board perfectly.

>>64397965
lol

>>64397939 (OP)
Wrong. Belgians make the best firearms.

>>64397939 (OP)
>cool
Pic unrelated?

>>64398719
I get ERECT everytime I think about VSK-94, which is often

Check out this unholy abomination found inT&T

>>64409074
>Dis shit baffles me fr
It's honestly stupid simple. Basically you need something to slide backwards. Most rifles use gas for this. This gun does, cool. It also needs something to slide back again really fast at essentially the same time but gas is already used. Cool. Attach a pulley so the thing sliding back pulls a wire and slides another thing back at essentially the same time.

Cool. Problem solved.

Russians are really good at designing shit in the most simplistic way possible. What really let's them down imo is their materials tech and manufacturing sector is turd world tier.

>>64397939 (OP)
>Russians really do make the coolest firearms
They have a few, but not really. Germans and their ilk (Swiss, Nordics, Austrians) have them beat when it comes to ingenuity and actual combat effectiveness for the most part.

>>64397939 (OP)
Anything still based on old soviet shit is pure SOVL.
Nu Russia cannot into aesthetics.

>So much of the dumb shit Russia does with small arms could never happen in a country with common civil firearms ownership
That's a bit of an overstatement, the free market produces tons of whacky shit. Granted, companies that overdo it usually go under, but Keltec is still out there.

>>64407378
Wouldn't brass be able to fly infront of the barrel?