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Anonymous No.64400403 [Report] >>64400422 >>64400463 >>64401025 >>64401116 >>64401804
su-57 in ukraine?
Back in January, a ukrainian channel reported that they "almost" shot down a "shit-stealth" [su-57]
if true, this means that
1. su-57s were used in combat against ukraine. (what does russia use them for?)
2. ukraine was able to detect it to some extent (though it's not clear if they got a good lock, as they were unable to shoot it down)
Anonymous No.64400409 [Report] >>64401027
They've been used to launch standoff missiles from russian airspace for years. Nothing new, ziggers are too chicken to use them to try and gain air superiority.
Anonymous No.64400417 [Report] >>64400422 >>64401050
I can't read that fucking post in a way that makes any kind of sense
Anonymous No.64400422 [Report] >>64401050
>>64400403 (OP)
link btw https://t.me/s/soniah_hub/8875
>>64400417
sorry but translation from ukrainian to english is just as bad as from russian to english
Anonymous No.64400426 [Report] >>64400431 >>64400445 >>64400804 >>64400976 >>64402248 >>64403439
>SS fighters
Yet collectice Wect claim that the Ukraine is not national-socialist in nature and treatment of minorities forced under yoke of hohol empire? Curious indeed.
Anonymous No.64400431 [Report] >>64400453 >>64400976
>>64400426
sieg heil motherfucker
Anonymous No.64400445 [Report] >>64400976
>>64400426
learn to spell thurdie
Anonymous No.64400453 [Report]
>>64400431
ZIEG HEIL BOI
I'M FROM SOUTH GERMANEH
Anonymous No.64400463 [Report]
>>64400403 (OP)
are we memoryholling the time su-57 was used to shoot down the experimental S-70 drone over donbas last year?
Anonymous No.64400804 [Report] >>64402665
>>64400426
>IESLB
Strike one.
>whining about Nazis
Two.
>phrased as a question for no good reason
Three! You're out!
Anonymous No.64400976 [Report] >>64400987 >>64401792
>>64400426
before translating from hoholspeak it was пc (right sector) so close enough
>>64400431
nazis lost.
fascists lost.
commies won.
freedom won.
>>64400445
>learn to spell
>thurdie
geg
Anonymous No.64400987 [Report] >>64400998
>>64400976
>commies
>freedom
schizoid
Anonymous No.64400998 [Report] >>64401004 >>64402454
>>64400987
>>commies
>>freedom
yes. the ussr liberated millions from nazi and fascist rule.
Anonymous No.64401004 [Report] >>64401010
>>64400998
>ussr
>zero freedom of speech
>liberated
stop using words that you don't understand and go back to whatever shithole part of the internet you came from
Anonymous No.64401010 [Report] >>64401017 >>64402609
>>64401004
>>ussr
>>zero freedom of speech
freedom of speech was guaranteed by the USSR's constitution. learn history chud
Anonymous No.64401017 [Report]
>>64401010
>guaranteed by the USSR
eat shit faggot i grew up in ussr and you most likely did too so drop the act and fuck right off.
Anonymous No.64401025 [Report]
>>64400403 (OP)
>what does russia use them for?
AFAIK the Kh-69 missiles
Anonymous No.64401027 [Report] >>64401055 >>64401314 >>64402381
>>64400409
I wonder if a Patriot system could shoot down an SU-57. My guess is yes.
Anonymous No.64401050 [Report]
>>64400417
>>64400422
Let me try to manually translate it

>Fuck, how I want this not to be a lag from "Virage"... well all of grannies go and remember "Our Father" (tl note: the prayer), it's needed

>Unfortunately the pidor most likely got only his pants shat from fear. However, today we almost reached the final (stage), next time we'll definitely succeed.

>And pidors won't feel as confident in our sky. Molluscs will finally get their shit-stealth (plane).

>P.S: decide for yourself how good these posts are, since it's actually a couple of good news in them.

I.e. they've fired on a "stealth" plane, but it seems it didn't connect, so the pilot left with his pants shat, but soon (i.e. hopefully the next time) the wildlife will finally get to devour that plane and it pilot.
Anonymous No.64401055 [Report] >>64402381
>>64401027
Under ideal conditions, yes. Similarly, an f-117 was shot down by ancient soviet aa
In practice, the su-57 might not even need to enter the Patriot’s range to do its job
Anonymous No.64401056 [Report] >>64401066
Considering sukhoi says its between 0.1-1 which will be both frontal RCS and an absolute lie we can assume it'll be even higher than 1
The F117 was 0.001
Lmao
Anonymous No.64401066 [Report] >>64401110
>>64401056
RCS isn’t a single number, dumdum
Anonymous No.64401110 [Report] >>64401120
>>64401066
Yes but if they're saying the frontal RCS ranges from 0.1 to 1 we know it will be higher
If LM says the front RCS of the F117 was 0.001 we know it was in that range and possibly lower
Are you stupid? ESL? Both?
Anonymous No.64401116 [Report] >>64401130 >>64401148
>>64400403 (OP)
>russians and their retarded broken English
I’ve almost died of aneurysm trying to comprehend this
Anonymous No.64401120 [Report] >>64401182
>>64401110
Nigga you sound like you know jackshit about planes
Anonymous No.64401130 [Report]
>>64401116
It's mostly the use of idioms and slang
Anonymous No.64401148 [Report]
>>64401116
Those are hohols though
Anonymous No.64401182 [Report] >>64401188
>>64401120
Nigga you haven't made an argument
Anonymous No.64401188 [Report] >>64401201
>>64401182
Don’t bother making another one while you’re at it
Anonymous No.64401201 [Report] >>64401255
>>64401188
Still no argument you stupid fag
What are you some kind of retarded Sukhoidrone?
Anonymous No.64401255 [Report] >>64401265
>>64401201
>you’re a turbonigger retard
>hurr durr you’re biased
/k/ has fallen
Anonymous No.64401265 [Report] >>64401301
>>64401255
>no argument
>just seethe
I accept your concession, another win for me
Anonymous No.64401301 [Report]
>>64401265
You won the golden chromosome award for being a nigger retard lul
Anonymous No.64401314 [Report] >>64402266
>>64401027
Gonna go out on a limb and say that the Patriot ballistic missile defense system wouldn't have any trouble engaging a regular ass fucking plane, provided it actually enters detection range (there's a reason they don't).
Anonymous No.64401792 [Report]
>>64400976
>ПC
>пoвiтpянi cили
>literally means airforce
MUH SS NAZI AAAAAAHHH
Anonymous No.64401804 [Report] >>64401864
>>64400403 (OP)
>pants of fear
>undertarions
>the molluski
>all grandmothers abruptly remember our father
huh
Anonymous No.64401864 [Report]
>>64401804
These new System of a Down lyrics suck ass
Anonymous No.64402248 [Report] >>64403507
>>64400426
we kill ze bolshevik now ja?
Anonymous No.64402266 [Report] >>64402389
>>64401314
>there's a reason they don't
It’s not a long range system. Even some glide bombs can out-range it.
Anonymous No.64402381 [Report] >>64402640
>>64401027
100% it could knock an SU-57 out of the sky. They have zero problems targeting cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and target drones with comparable RCS (1m^2) to the SU-57. Which is why Russia won't fly the SU-57 anywhere near a Patriot system. All of their planes stay within Russia's borders and lob their munitions from the safety of Russia.

Source:

Sukhoi's own patent:
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2502643C9/en
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/did-you-know-the-su-57-felon-has-the-same-rcs-of-a-clean-f-a-18-super-hornet-and-1000-times-bigger-than-that-of-the-f-35/

and third party simulations:
https://basicsaboutaerodynamicsandavionics.wordpress.com/2022/09/26/su-57-radar-scattering-simulation/

>>64401055
>Under ideal conditions, yes.
Not even ideal conditions, as the SU-57 has an abysmal RCS for being stealth. It's nothing compared to the F-117's RCS.
>Similarly, an f-117 was shot down by ancient soviet aa
That was a once-in-a-lifetime thing. Shooting down an SU-57 would be like shooting down a CM, Gripen, Super Hornet, Rafale, etc as they all have similar RCSs.
>In practice, the su-57 might not even need to enter the Patriot’s range to do its job
They refuse to fly the SU-57 within Ukraine because they know it will get shot down. Just like they do with their fighters and bombers. Use them to lob long range CMs, or ghetto JDAM-ERs across the border, and turn around to run back to their base. All within the safety of Russia's borders.
Anonymous No.64402389 [Report]
>>64402266
>Even some glide bombs can out-range it.
What glide bombs out-range it, and which interceptor variants are you claiming get out-ranged?
Anonymous No.64402454 [Report]
>>64400998
I wouldn't say 'liberated'. More like 'under new management'.
Anonymous No.64402609 [Report]
>>64401010
>the USSR's constitution
An irrelevant dead letter, as the so-called Russia in none of its guises (including the so-called USSR) ever respected, let alone practised, the principle of the Rule of Law. From the first day of the USSR to its last, every soviet government continously shat upon ever ysingle right it on paper guaranteed the slaves it called citizens in it's continous attempt to cargo cult the civilized world.
Anonymous No.64402628 [Report]
MIC bros, we eating good today.
Anonymous No.64402640 [Report] >>64403327
>>64402381
>https://basicsaboutaerodynamicsandavionics.wordpress.com/2022/09/26/su-57-radar-scattering-simulation
Very good source. Too bad that it doesn’t support your conclusions at all
Anonymous No.64402665 [Report]
>>64400804
Damn, if he had just randomly brought up NAFO like it’s relevant, I would have had bingo.
Anonymous No.64403327 [Report] >>64403335 >>64403504
>>64402640
>Too bad that it doesn’t support your conclusions at all
How so? Be detailed, please. We know for a fact that Patriot SAM systems are capable of detecting, tracking, and engaging Kh-101 CMs that have a smaller frontal and mean RCS than an SU-57. We also know that the build quality of the SU-57 is utter shit, with panel gaps being non-uniform and misaligned panel height between transition from one panel to another, that will most definitely increase its RCS. We also know that the SU-57 lacks any type of serrated edges, or magnetic tape to dissipate the EM energy from traveling and creeping waves, which will increase its RCS. We know that the SU-57 doesn't use any type of advanced composite materials for skin panels that could act as Radar Absorbing Structures (RAS) (Like the F-35's carbon composite panels and the Carbon Nanotube (CNT) layer on top of the composite skin panels that function as the F-35s RAM), and we also know the SU-57 lacks the use of any type of Radar Absorbing Material (RAM), or any type of conductive coating (like the F-22's polymer based coating with silver particles in it), this, too, will dramatically increase its RCS. Finally, we know that the SU-57 doesn't use any type of edge treatments on its leading and trailing edges to further reduce its RCS. So, if anything, that simulation is optimistic, and is literally a best-case-scenario of a perfectly built SU-57 with exceptional build quality. When we have verifiable evidence that isn't the case, and the build quality of the SU-57 is utter dogshit.
Anonymous No.64403335 [Report] >>64403405
>>64403327
Anonymous No.64403405 [Report] >>64403414
>>64403335
...holy shit, the banged-up old-as-shit retired Tornado the airbase 20 klicks from my home has as a gate guard is less fucked up than this.
Anonymous No.64403414 [Report]
>>64403405
Superior stealth of second army of world. Please understand.
Anonymous No.64403439 [Report]
>>64400426
Wait a minute, has the US/NATO ever actually explicitly stated that the ukies AREN'T nazis???
Anonymous No.64403504 [Report]
>>64403327
now look what you did, apologize!
Anonymous No.64403507 [Report]
>>64402248
based as fuck, I should go donate more