Thread 64415763

Over 2 years of fighting in Gaza before Hamas surrendered and release all the hostages while accepting Israeli control of 2/3rds of the strip, Hamas only destroyed 2 MBT's, 1 IFV, and 1 CEV in fighting despite investing heavily in anti-tank weapons and diverting much international aid to the production of anti-tank weapons. Only 1 of these (the APC) was to an RPG, 0 to ATGMs and the rest were IEDs/mines.

This figure represents a good hour for Russia in Ukraine, who has lost thousands upon thousands of armored vehicles to similar weapons (drones, RPG's, ATGMs, mines, etc.). Why isn't Hamas AT capable of destroying really anything beyond the most isolated of circumstances? They had a number of modern systems such as RPG-29's, 106mm AT shells, Kornet's, drones of similar caliber that Ukraine uses to smoke Russians daily, etc..

>>64415763 (OP)
tactics evolve. sending waves of inbred low iq true believers works until you run out of them.

>>64415763 (OP)
VERY limited actual anti-armor resources used by uneducated religious fools against a very well-equipped technologically-advanced, well-motivated and trained adversary.

>>64415763 (OP)
Ukraine is huge in comparison, has better weapons, better training and supply, hamas on the other hand is not a real army, they have very little to no military training, they were fighting the IDF as well as making sure the fatah loyal clans wouldn't take over of what was left of the strip.

>>64415763 (OP)
>Believing Israels data

>>64416623
>IP location: Germany

>>64415763 (OP)
Because the Israelis built their armour specifically to handle kicking Gaza's shit in. Their tanks are heavy as fuck and have additional protection on the upper surfaces specifically to absorb RPG fire from rooftops, not to mention their pioneering of APS to eat incoming missiles.

In poorly constructed buildings like those in Gaza, airstrikes and artillery fire can create so much shrapnel that using them for ambushes or cover can be suicidal.

>>64415763 (OP)
Israelis ran out of vehicle spare parts at some point, i think they destroyed way more vehicles than that, tsahal invincibility myth is destroyed forever, they are just damage controlling.

>>64416700
Holy cope

>>64416700
>Israelis ran out of vehicle spare parts at some point, i think they destroyed way more vehicles than that
proofs?

>>64415763 (OP)
Turns out when put an APS on every vehicle you have which everyone has known was a requirement since the 90s yet with the exception of the IDF avoided doing due to the cost of these systems, armoured vehicles become pretty much immune to infantry carried AT, only really being susceptible to mines, artillery, direct fire from cannons and saturation attacks.

>>64415763 (OP)
they were shot

>>64415763 (OP)
I don't get how the fighting lasted so long, I thought the IDF would have killed every Hamas fighter over a year ago. And I don't get why the IDF never had total control over Gaza, it's fucking tiny.

Anyone wanna tell me what was the master plan of the Hamas regarding that terror attack like what did they expect would happen

>>64417208
Who knows?

Why did they take hostages and then never kill them or threaten to kill them to get the IDF to withdraw?

What the point of any of it?

>>64417167
This. Israeli APS is the answer, not a lack of training or equipment in Hamas

>>64417208
Because watching random kids get blown up makes people angry, and when they get angry they get irrational.
Also, revenge is great. Turns out, all those movies you watched when you were 5 were lying to you. Revenge is just and feels amazing

>>64417208
It was actually supposed to be only the attacks on military targets, which if you'll recall were quite successful. However, Hamas being an undisciplined band of uneducated retards, there were multiple groups that made their own plans to commit terror attacks on civilians on the same day. Hamas leadership quickly realized these attacks were too severe to simply disavow, so they rolled with it

>>64417208
They thought that Hezbollah and Iran would come in earlier and that Israel would be more shocked and cautious then they were.

Why they thought that'd be the case after explicitly targeting so many civilians IDK.

>>64417208
inbred subhuman fanatics dont do much planning

>>64417292
See >>64417288 this actually makes sense if it was supposed to only be against military and maybe government targets

>>64417208
The plan was to fuck the jews then do a victory parade about it. They didn't plan beyond that.

>>64416700
New Hamas secret weapon : every tank undergoing maintenance now counts as a kill!

>>64417167
Hamas launched their attack over a year after the start of the Ukraine war and I never saw them try to use kamikaze drones, despite swimming in RPG warheads.

I think in their minds their soldiers were so brave and unafraid of death they'd Kamikaze themselves to the same effect. Also their leadership is corrupt old boomers.

>>64417333
The main problem is that given Hamas's stated goals and track record, I dont think that's actually true.

>>64417288
>attacks on military targets
The general population are conscripts

>>64417208
Islam is a death cult disguised as a religion. If you work from that point outward, everything about their actions makes perfect sense.

>>64415763 (OP)
Muslims are bad at war

Pic related is considered their finest military achievement in the modern era

>>64417208
It was in essence to start a regional war and force Iran and its “axis of resistance” into fighting for them. However Iran dragged its feet, and this allowed Israel to take apart the axis one by one. First they flattened Gaza and neutered Hamas, then they castrated Hezbollah to such a degree they seem like they’re never going to recover from it. This + putins Ukraine quagmire caused Assad to fall. Then Israel turned their attention on Iran, showing they are not safe from the proxy war anymore and what they do abroad will affect them in their homes. Striking Iran on that scale without any interference from Lebanon/syria/iraq would have been unthinkable pre-October 7th and showed the “axis of resistance” was dead. It’s just Iran and Houthi’s now. Sinwar wanted to gamble to drag the region into war and lost and paid for it with his own life as well as the rest of his family

Hamas’ secondary goal was to use Palis as cannon fodder for optics, using their deaths to increase anti-Israel propaganda. In this regards they were successful, but PR doesn’t win wars alone and the material aspect of “the resistance” is dead

>>64417495
Not to mention in a while nobody will even give a fuck about the palishits after Gaza becomes a fait accompli. Even donny boy says he'll bomb the rest of it flat unless Hamas disarms and disbands now.

>>64417495
So while anti-Israel sentiment is higher than pre October 7th, militarily their situation has never been better. For the first time in Israel’s history, no state bordering it is a military threat anymore

>>64417292
>>64417495
I do wonder about the butterfly effects of Trump taking out Soleimani. I have a feeling that had he been alive for all this, Iran would have been more adept and successful in its struggle against Israel.

>>64415785
>uneducated religious fools

I'm pretty sure that I'm more of a pious Muslim than your average Hamas member who spends most of his time strung out on heroin, beating old ladies, and raping 12 year old girls (that he's not married to)

>>64417517
Solemani was a warmonger who wanted total war with Israel so he would have pushed for it immediately. However is khameini fearful and passive so still would have overruled him probably

Also solemani probably would have died pretty early into the war based on what we’ve seen about how easily israel can kill IRGC commanders

>>64417525
p much lol

>>64417525
The IRGC as a whole strike me as being not nearly as smart as they think they are.

>>64417538
Nasrallah was hiding underneath Hezbollah HQ in Beirut, they’re retards

>>64417541
Wasn't part of what made Israel's opener in the Twelve-Day-War so successful was that the IRGC let all it's top commanders go home after a period of high alert?

>>64417495
>be Axis of Resistance
>don't cooperate with each other in any meaningful way
>be isolated and destroyed one by one

Just like its namesake

>>64417192
>I don't get how the fighting lasted so long, I thought the IDF would have killed every Hamas fighter over a year ago. And I don't get why the IDF never had total control over Gaza, it's fucking tiny.
I figure that Israel didn't want control over the humanitarian zones because that would make it an occupation which brings on obligations under international law. They don't want to rule Gaza, they just want the Gazans to stop trying to genocide them. Getting them to stop requires punishing them for it which you're not allowed to do as an occupier, as an occupier is deemed to have control over the criminal justice system and must prosecute crimes individually. An occupation is no longer a war zone, it's an administration area.

It wasn't a straight fight with Hamas manning trenches keeping the civilians behind them safe from the advancing "genocidal" Israelis, instead Israel had free reign to rain fire down anywhere on the strip they wanted but they only wanted to specifically target Hamas, and Hamas would just pop in and out from tunnels now and again and take a pot shot as the Israelis were standing around waiting for a target to appear.
So they didn't kill all of Hamas because Hamas kept hiding from them.

>>64417580
>Iraqi wing of the Axis of Resistance is now more interested in real estate development than fighting Israel
Pottery.

>>64417590
>They don't want to rule Gaza

Certain elements of Israeli leadership have clearly entertained ideas of ethnically cleansing the entire strip and expelling its inhabitants permanently, The biggest barrier to that is ironically the United States

>>64417208
Destroy tsahal invincibility myth
Expose jews true nature

Its only a matter of time before the zionist state fall, just as how greeks exposed persians during the 10 000 expedition, opening the way for the Alexander conquests.

>>64417517
How so? Iran has two military options -- either strike at Israel with weapons that reach from Iran or start marching a ground army over. They already tried option 1 by launching all their ballistic missiles at Israel. Would Soleimani have done it better?
That leaves a ground invasion, which would require a 1000 mile march across open terrain under fire from the IDF, only to run into a mobilized modern army of a country that has mandatory conscription of both sexes on their home turf.
Russia can't supply an army 100 miles from their own border in a region with decent road and rail coverage. You think Iran can supply one 1000 miles from theirs after Israel turns the handful of roads into rubble?

>>64417339
Most of the vehicles (tanks, D9, troop transports) gets wrecked and dragged n'y another vehicle into a workshop at the border of Gaza for reparation, al qassam and saraya al quds monitors them in the videos they take from their attacks.

>>64417538

The IRGC is basically what the SS would have turned into if the Third Reich had survived for long enough. A Qanon-tier glownigger deep state that’s massively corrupt and almost totally useless at anything other than state terrorism. It even runs the same kind of shadow business empire to finance itself through criminal enterprises and misappropriating state-owned industries as the SS-WVHA did.

>>64415763 (OP)
>Hamas only destroyed 2 MBT's, 1 IFV, and 1 CEV in fighting
Jesus tap dancing Christ. Even Russians aren't this fucking delusional.

>>64415763 (OP)
Why hasn't Israel wiped them off the face of the earth yet? Da joos said were the strongest race in the world, are they lying?

>>64417590
>They don't want to rule Gaza, they just want the Gazans to stop trying to genocide them.
Biblical levels of copium.

>>64417737
Google controlled opposition

>>64417737
Israel is in a quantum super position of not being able to wipe out Hamas due to America stopping them and having already wiped out Hamas due to their superior tactics of sending 21 year old Staff Sergeants on missions to detonate civilian infrastructure.

>>64416700
>>64417675
>tsahal

Speak English nigger

>>64417761
"surely THIS time everyone else will do the work for me"

>>64417208
Genuine answer beyond "they're a death cult" or "inbred savages"
Hamas was putting a lot of stock on the idea that Israel wouldn't go in for two reasons
>Rallying the resistance against Israel
They figured the other big anti-Israel groups couldn't NOT get in on the action if only to save face (Hezbollah for example) which turned out to be right and in the past they managed to rally west bank arabs into terror waves against Israel, which didn't end up happening but wasn't THAT unreasonable of them to assume.
>The hostages themselves
Israel demonstrated in the past that having hostages is having Israel by the balls with a big chunk of the public going out to the streets demanding the government do ANYTHING to bring the hostages home NOW, anything else be damned.
And that happened with as little as 1 or 2 hostages, it's easy to see why they figured a triple digit hostage count would be even more crippling.
An attack against Hamas would jeopardize the hostages and Hamas figured that politically it's a risk Israel couldn't take.

So basically they figured Israel would be stretched thin dealing with all the secondary fires breaking out and would be heavily pressured to just give Hamas a get-out-of-jail-free card.

>>64417782
>Hamas was putting a lot of stock on the idea that Israel wouldn't go in for two reasons
Yea, I'm sure they built up those tunnels and trained in hit and run attacks for decades without imagining that Israel would try (and fail lmao) to invade Gaza.

Their primary goal was to reignite the Palestinian cause and kill any future hope at normalization. Both objectives were absolute successes on the account of how brain dead and bloodthirsty the Israelis are. The only thing they likely didn't account for was for how bad the IDF is at war because holy shit they fucking suck.

>>64417782
>rally west bank arabs into terror waves against Israel
Is that even possible these days with the security walls and settlement-forts?

>>64417208
They believed that the middle east is one spark away from zerg rushing Israel. It turns out that doing business with the evil Jews is better than waging war.

>>64417803
lol majority of Gaza is new Israeli clay and Palis are still dying daily as Hamas does nothing except release hostages

>>64417807
am I missing something or are those not just a bunch of double-wide trailers in a line? I mean I guess they've got a solid firing line and the high ground, in addition to denying anyone approaching any real cover, but I wouldn't wanna be shot at without any decent cover of my own.

>>64417754
>>64417803
>>64417737

If Hamas was winning so hard why release all the hostages and agree to Israel controlling the majority of Gaza while the world organizes their disarmament and a new government. Why not keep winning hard?

>>64417724
Pics of all these other destroyed vehicles?

>>64417675
2 more centuries, remember Alexander

>>64417853
No, you aren't missing anything. From an Israeli security perspective, these kinds of settlements are pretty useful. It's basically just a bunch of the most extremist, motivated Jews in the whole country, living next to Palestinian West Bank settlements. Not only do the settlers keep a close eye on their neighbors, but anytime shit kicks off, the settlers have a habit of doing eye-for-an-eye attacks that the IDF can then wash its hands of.

>>64417846
>Such a total failure of a military that the only thing you can brag about is murdering civilians

>>64417855
>organizes their disarmament
Trump and a bunch of Arab goyslaves signing something in Egypt means nothing to the Palestinians. They haven't signed anything. They've made their demands clear. No disarmament without a state. What the fuck is America gonna do that Israel hasn't already tried?

>>64417754
Kind of like “we’re winning” but also “help us it’s genocide ceasefire now”

>>64417881
Why did Hamas release all the hostages and agree to Israeli control over most of Gaza if they were winning so hard?

>>64417853
No, you aren't missing anything. The settlements are just full of inbred schizophrenics living off the government welfarte and government protection who couldn't fight their way out of paper bag. Without the IDF they would cease to exist within a month.

>>64417881
Maybe Hamas will give up even more of gaza, since this is how they fight Israel apparently, that’ll really show Americans lmao

>>64417888
>muh winning
Why do you retards incessantly like to parade around your ignorance regarding military matters?

>>64417881
“Palestine” is just a giant welfare state. Nobody works or does anything besides rape their underaged cousins. They all live on UBI donated by the west and Arab states. Without that support they don’t exist. So yeah they have to listen to what the US and Qatar tell them. It’s why Hamas released the hostages with Israel still in control of 2/3rds of Gaza and agreed to an international peacekeeping force

>>64417899
You just were gloating how great Hamas was doing. Why not keep fighting. Why release hostages and let Israel control most of Gaza (including the Egyptian border)

>>64417803
>try (and fail lmao) to invade Gaza.
Israel is holding 50%+ of the strip
>>64417807
Very few portions of the barrier are an actual wall, most is a fence in varying conditions.
I don't know how true it is but I've heard stories of west bank Arabs with legit work visas sneaking through the fence for no reason other than it's quicker than going through bureaucratic checkpoints. If that's true it can't be THAT hard.
Even if it weren't true, plenty of stories of Israelis accidentally ending up in PA territory, arrested by PA police and handed over to Israeli authorities, so it's entirely possible to get from the west bank to Israel proper even unintentionally.

>>64417777

Can't argue with those digits

>>64417905
>Very few portions of the barrier are an actual wall, most is a fence in varying conditions.
Yea, aren't almost all the famous pictures of the wall from just around Jerusalem?

>>64417901
It's peak hilarity that Israelis care about Palestinians under apartheid receiving aide when their entire existence is due to the grace of my tax dollars.

>>64417881
Hamas literally signed an agreement that has a new government in Gaza and a disarmament plan, while also including permanent Israeli buffer zones in Gaza

>>64417889
Without the IDF and Israeli government settlers would roll over Palestinians, who rely completely on the goodwill of the international community to exist

>>64417881
>No disarmament without a state.

No state without disarmament.

>>64417904
The prisoners are meaningless. IDF would've killed them if they knew where they were anyway. This is only gonna be a pause in the fighting to see if Trump can get Jew dick out of his mouth long enough to get Israel to to stop, when he wont, they'll go back to fighting.

>>64417922
Hamas haven't signed anything and they've made it clear they won't disarm. Please pay attention to literally any news stories.

>>64417208
Hey I just woke up from a coma, Iran is still keeping Israel in check with it's massive stockpile of ballistic missiles right?

>>64417918
US aid to Israel is 1% of its GDP and US had an embargo on them in the war where Palis got nakba’d in the first place

Without the constant flow of massive outside aid Palis don’t exist

>>64417927
>>64417933

Did Hamas even execute hostages like you see in the movies? I'm sure a lot of them died in captivity but I don't recall them ever doing the "leave Gaza or we kill one hostage every hour" type shit, why?

>>64417930
>used to gloat about torturing hostages 24/7
>now they’re meaningless
Why give up their last bargaining chip despite Israel being in control of 2/3rds of Gaza? Why stop fighting? Why agree to a new government, peacekeepers, and disarmament? They were doing so well I thought?

>>64417932
Considering Iran officials are openly visiting Lebanon to meet with Hezbollah, pretty easy to see Israel is buck broken into submission when it comes to attacking Iran.

>>64417930
>take hostages
>say you won’t release them unless israel leaves Gaza
>they don’t
>release them anyway
>just as planned kuffar

>>64417941
There were a few bodies that definitely died violently, and not from high explosive.
>I don't recall them ever doing the "leave Gaza or we kill one hostage every hour" type shit, why?
Do you think there's even the slightest chance that would have ended well?

>>64417941
>leave Gaza or else
That just opens up to more escalation, wouldn't it? Nothing stopping hamas from continuing to fuck around at that point if it works so better for the opposing force to just say fuck it and kill them all.

>>64417930
If hostages were meaningless why take them in the first place and why say you don’t release them unless Israel leaves Gaza and why release them now despite that

>>64417914
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised since the really striking murals are from foreign artists, so it might as well be Jerusalem.

>>64417937
How do you think they got this fat

>>64417955
>Do you think there's even the slightest chance that would have ended well?
What are you gonna do? Invade me?

>>64417889
I have no love for Israel, but I'll admit an unofficial foreign policy based around kosher brand trailer trash is pretty funny. I wonder if their yamakas have budlite logos on them.

>>64417958
The prisoners are meaningless. The true objective was to reignite the Palestinian cause and kill any future normalization. Both were smashing successes due to Israeli incompetence so the prisoners aren't useful anymore.

>>64417945
>israel bombs Hezbollah daily without any response
>idf still in south Lebanon without any resistance
>lebanese army taking over hezzie bases
Oh no make it stop

>>64417937
US aid to Israel is 1% of their GDP but the entirely of the Palestinian economy. These are faces

>>64417972
>Can only gloat over the murder of innocent civilians
Top 10 military btw. If Hezbollah and Iran were so destroyed, why are you letting Iranian official fly to Beirut to attend Hezbollah events? Do you perhaps fear something?

>>64417881
>gloating about conquering new territory
Yes? Hamas agreed to the new borders and signed a ceasefire while releasing all hostages. This is the new state of Palestine, 40% the size it was previously. enjoy

>>64417930
Literally all you palishills did the last 2 years was harp on about hostages to try and get Israel to stop, now that you gave them up they’re meaningless. Wewlad

>>64417969
Point being that keeping the hostages was a lever they could still pull, and they're pretty fucking short on those. Spending them on a week to shoot collaborators in the street and pull rubble out of the tunnels was still a massive waste, but less of one than blowing their load at the first opportunity.

>>64417914
The walls snake around the West Bank where the "Green Line" is and beyond it in parts, but that pic is from a wildcat hilltop settlement somewhere inside the West Bank.

>>64417959
A lot of famous graffiti is in Bethlehem on the north side of the city, which is a bit south from Jerusalem. I'm not sure about Jerusalem itself, because Israel has basically annexed East Jerusalem.

>>64417971
Why take hostages then release them if they’re meaningless. All you did was gloat about torturing civilian hostages for the last 2 years now you pretend it didn’t matter? Why say they weren’t gonna release them without Israel leaving Gaza but do it anyway?

>>64417988
>>64418005
It's really profound just how stupid Israelis really are. No wonder they suck at war.

>>64417971
Hostages were only thing pressuring Israel to agree to leave Gaza. Now it’s just gonna be permanently occupied again.

>>64417983
nigger if you want Iran to be completely bombed to dust, since you faggots couldn't do jack and shit vs only 70 F-35s, it can be arranged any time

>>64417983
They’re. It civilians they’re hezzie rats

And if Hezbollah did so well why allow themselves to be bombed daily with zero (0) response and not resist Israeli occupation in south Lebanon

But omg some Iranian official visited Lebanon it’s over for Zion

>>64417996
You seem like an Anon with some wisdom. Is all the kerfuffle over a potential E1 settlement really correct that it would permanently fuck any Palestinian state?

>>64418007
If they suck at war why did Hamas give up and accept 1/3rd of the territory they had at the start of the war. While releasing all the hostsges. Why not keep fighting if they’re were doing so well?

>>64417941

The bodies of two kids were returned showing signs of having sustained fatal blunt force trauma to their skulls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_killing_of_the_Bibas_family

>>64418024
Yes but I mean was it done on camera as a threat instead of just a random killing

>>64417971
Hostages were only thing that could get Israel to actually stop the war and it was a huge domestic issue. It’s why Palestinian propagandists obsessed over them 24/7 and whenever Israel launched a new attack the response was “omg you’re letting the hostages die!l

That’s all done with now, and now Israel is bombing Hamas and cutting off aid for not returning dead bodies fast enough. Hamas has accepted this state of affairs with Israel controlling the majority of Gaza including dozens of towns that have been flattened for a new permanent DMZ. Hamas agreeing to a ceasefire and releasing hostages under these conditions is bad enough, but on top of that they also agreed to a new government without them and a plan that has them disarm

All of these indicate the war was not going as amazingly well for Hamas as you seem to think. Especially since IDF KIA from August to October was 6

>>64418016
>ESL Isreali sadism posting

>>64417983
>hamas/Hezbollah get bombed
>claim they’re civilians
Seeing a Pattern here

>>64418058
That’s a good way to deflect from the grim reality I guess

>>64418053
>Hamas agreeing to a ceasefire and releasing hostages under these conditions is bad enough, but on top of that they also agreed to a new government without them and a plan that has them disarm
Sincerely and profoundly retarded.

>>64418058
Why doesn’t Hezbollah even respond to Israel bombing it daily? Is this really less big of a deal than some Iranian making a symbolic visit to Beirut to meet with a hezzie politician?

>>64418074
Why doesn't Israel bomb Iranian officials in Beirut? Hezbollah has so obviously been neutralized as a threat, right?

Also what happened to "Lebanonizing" Iran?

>>64418072
Why not keep fighting and holding hostages if that was going so well

Btw Hamas has said they’re still committed to the ceasefire (that has Israel control 2/3rds of Gaza) despite Israel bombing 120 targets including a commander. Why? Why not go back to fighting?

>>64418017
That's beyond my level, but I think so? Like the whole idea of a Palestinan state is that it would have East Jerusalem as its capital, but if there's no Palestinian East Jerusalem then it's Ramallah which is a dump. How do you make the geography work?

>>64418053
>Israel is bombing Hamas and cutting off aid for not returning dead bodies fast enough.

To be fair, I don't think Hamas has an accurate accounting of all the bodies. I imagine a good chunk of them were killed and abandoned where they lay. Now they're buried under mountains of debris.

>>64417941
>>64418047
Hamas is trying to go for a more sympathetic angle like
>WE don't harm our "prisoners", no sir, not like the Zionazis
So while evidence suggests plenty of violent torture and murder was done it's never done in an "official" capacity and Hamas always says Israel bombed them to death.
Hamas' leverage on Israel was the hostages and international pressure, "officially" executing a hostage would be counter-productive to both.

>>64418079
So you’re suggesting that Hezbollah is in fact as strong as ever and in great shape, but simply chooses not to respond to daily assassinations and Israeli control over southern Lebanese territories

>>64418079
You’re just deflecting. It makes no sense that Hezbollah would agree to being pounded daily and have IDF in southern Lebanon if they weren’t neutered

No, a politician visiting Beirut symbolically is not more relevant than this

>>64418083
>>64418092
>>64418095
>Keeps asking the same question that had already been answered multiple times.
Ah shit, I've been arguing with bots again. Goddamnit.

>>64418085
Well then they better get digging if they want food

>>64418079
>when you win so hard you don’t need to respond to being attacked on a near daily basis

>>64418099
The question will stop being asked when it’s answered. So far all you said was unrelated, that Israel did not kill an Iranian politician making a symbolic visit to Beirut. Our point is that it’s meaningless, and does not affect the current situation wherein Hezbollah is continually bombed without resistance. The facts in the ground matter more than the optics

Now then, answer the question. Why does Hezbollah agree to daily one sided bombardment

>>64417971
>>64418007

Post skin color

>>64418123
How dare you ask that of John Johnson of the American Texas oblast?

>>64418047
The off camera killings weren’t political. They were just normal palestinians chimping out.

We’ve all seen how they parade bodies in the streets. How do you think they act behind closed doors?

>>64417971
Going from “hostages are being left to die agree to a ceasefire” to “actually they were meaningless” because Hamas released them while accepting Israeli control of the strip is peak funny

>>64417983
>Hezbollah
>innocent civilians
Pali shills are just build different, holy kek.

>>64418099
Israel killed 49 Palestinians today in Gaza, 11 yesterday, 25 the day before that. All with Hamas still agreeing to a ceasefire.

>>64418142
Nah, it's pretty standard motte/bailey. Hezbollah is a militia with a political party, and they make a big point of having the Lebanese populace interact with the party, so that when "Hezbollah" gets bombed, they sell it as "look, LOOK! The Jews are after (You) personally!"

>>64418142
It was fun watching Hezbollah get run over by a tank from HTS, and HTS is helping the us.

>>64418142
just because they're whiter than you Moshe doesnt mean they arent civilians

>>64418152
You jump into a demilitarized zone and see what happens. Lol

Father of the year driving his family to their dead.

>>64418152
and I'm supposed to care why exactly?

>>64418084
>How do you make the geography work?
At this point, the facts on the ground with regards to carving out states are worse than Bosnia. And unlike Bosnia, which can pin its hopes on being just another part of the EU, with Serbians being able to feel connected to Serbia, and Croats feeling connected to Croatia, and Bosniaks being... idk; Palestinians really have no good long-term prospects.

>>64418167
>whiter than you

>>64415763 (OP)
Simple answer is that Israel already adapted to whatever Hamas had in the first place. Which, by the way, is why you should question the official narrative around October 7.

>>64418024
>trusting IDF

I bet you also think hamas members burned a whole parking lot with molotov cocktails and burned themselves so hard they melted with israeli hostages on their way to Gaza.