Thread 64417839

Remember the report in TWZ about US spy satellites detecting a B-21 sized flying wing in China, that is thought to be an unmanned stealth bomber?

That shit has now been spotted in flight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzhdqKqjFJY

>>64417839 (OP)
TWZ report

https://www.twz.com/air/large-cranked-kite-flying-wing-drone-appears-at-chinese-test-base

what makes it stealthy?

>>64417845
Basically, it is suggested that the H-20 (China's B-2 copy) has been cancelled/redesigned because the PLAAF brass think that subsonic bombers, even if stealth, will be useless in the wars they are about to fight. That role should be given to unmanned drones the size of actual bombers instead.

The H-20 is said to be redesigned as a stealth supersonic bomber now, since that's the only way the PLAAF thinks they can threaten CONUS.

>>64417852
geometry + stealth coating

>>64417852

it's flat. The B2 stealth bomber is flat, therefore anything flat is stealthy, therefore this is stealthy.

>>64417852
>-t. F16 flying boomer
Get on bilibili and find out for yourself.

>>64417852
Flying wing body, IR signal reduction via flat nozzles, advanced RAM are just a few of the features.

Funnily, China is actually quite open with their older RAM tech, offering "baked RAM" solutions for export.

>>64417876
even stating at which frequencies these are used for.

>>64417897
The X47 didn't have fiber mat stealth like the F35 or J20.

>>64417871
>Get on bilibili
lmao

>>64417902
j20 or other chink prototypes don't either yet here you are

>>64417903
>t-. eglin airman

>>64417839 (OP)
Vely Implessive.

>>64417913
checking in from the cockpit of my F-16, with my chinese concubine patiently waiting at the side kneeling on tarmac

>>64417897
Far smaller than this thing.

The Chinese drone is the size of the B-21 and the cranked wing is quite literally the perfect shape for carrying long weapons like ALBMs instead of gravity bombs like the B-2/21.

>>64417925
>The Chinese drone is the size of the B-21
chink drone is the size of a quadcopter confirmed
>instead of gravity bombs like the B-2/21
lol

>>64417911
>Stealth capability using fiber-mat stealth material.
The US military's official site says China uses fiber mat RAM: https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG/List/Tier1&ORIGIN_china--people-s-republic-of-d6ee02&DOM_fixed-wing-aircraft-65ca69

Why are you out here downplaying the threat? Or are you a senile loser who thinks shitting up forums with chestbeating is somehow patriotic?

>>64417936
>Or are you a senile loser who thinks shitting up forums with chestbeating is somehow patriotic?
biggest chinkshill self-own in days

>>64417839 (OP)
Glorious.

>>64417936
t. man who can only show low-flying pics taken in china specifically to impless its citizens

>>64417954
>glolious*

>>64417839 (OP)
implessive

>>64417962
t.man who can only cope with powerpoint and CGs to divert attention from societal collapse and the epstein list.

>>64417859
>The H-20 is said to be redesigned as a stealth supersonic bomber now, since that's the only way the PLAAF thinks they can threaten CONUS.
Genuinely the dumbest thing I've read today. How exactly are they going to fly supercruise using 3x the fuel of subsonic flight, 6000 miles out with zero forward bases and barely a dozen subsonic tanker craft?

>>64417976
nigger can't even into greentext properly

>>64417977
Probably dont need for supercruise all the way. Just a VLO Tu-160 would be enough. China understands that you cant expect to drop a freefall nuke over enemy cities anyway, so their bombers just need the speed and LO features to quickly get into launching positions for internally carried long-range ALBMs that can reach the US.

>>64417954
>Be PLA infantry in 20XX
>Be defending island airbase in the South China Sea from American MEU onslaught
>Iwo Jima type beat
>Getting obliterated by F-35B/Cs
>Major says PLAAF fighter cover inbound
>Look up
>Heavy strike platform
>Die

>>64417859
There's just no way to make an RQ-180 design type, which is what this is, meaningfully supersonic without inducing problems with the capability scope, maint, endurance, etc.
I'm sure a B-2, B-21, RQ-180, and this thing can all be equipped with the engines to go mach 1.5, but I'm just as sure mach 1.5 is detrimental to the planes insofar as their functional goal.

>>64417903
>making the lowest of the low insults because someone tells the truth about the CCP and china's real living conditions
>doing it because you consider the woman a traitor
Not a good look, oh the irony!

>>64417985
>F-35
>a threat to China

lmao.
Even J-16s ate that thing for breakfast a while ago, making the USN pilot piss his pants and crash into water when he returned to the carrier.

>>64417954
Idk whats going on with this photo but that dude looks like he would be 5'2" max. Weird perspective or maybe a woman?

>>64417999
yet pelosi's jumbo jet couldn't be spotted the entire time kek

>>64417999
Lol the west taiwan propaganda is soo damn funny.

>>64417999
>this is the propaganda that the average chinkshill believes in
Now, would you turn your pages to the 2022 Pelosi incident?

>>64417999
xD

>>64417984
Congrats; you reinvented the B-1

desu, china is literally guaranteed to achieve air-supremacy over the pacific at this rate.

J-36 heavy cruisers on standby, controlling hundreds of CCAs and J-50 air-supremacy fighters will lock down the entirety of the 1st and 2nd island chain. The humble J-20 and J-35 pilots wont even have a chance to score kills anymore, with how insane the 6th gens will dominate everything.

>>64418031
>cruise missile
Who cares about those?

>>64418034
>we'll strike your tankers and awacs first!
not a good look desu

>>64418034
where saddam?

>>64418018
>>64418011
Calm down AIT low level staffer.
Your Pelosi story is only really believed among your AIT-paid shill brigade. Not even the pentagon actually believed that shit.

You have other issues to fix. For example, that the young generation of Taiwan arent willing to die for your kike plans and instead are addicted to Chinese social media and gacha games.

>>64418034
this is exactly how it will go down, except they'll be shooting down the wave after wave of decoy drones because that trick literally never stops working.

>>64418049
xD

>>64418041
Yeah, just like how we strike your AWACS and tankers first, we will also target your base personell, the engineers and repairmen and your pilot dorms before anything starts.

Just like how we have disarmed you by banning Rare Earth Exports to you, essentially throwing a wrench in your reindustrialization and rearmament plans.

After we are done softening you up, we will face a much diminished US that cant fight, cant build, cant repair and cant replenish.

You should have read your Sun Tzu instead of just laughing about it. The simplest lessons are the hardest to remember.

>>64418034
>china's latest and greatest depicted against....
>the B-1B
>F-22s
>What are basically reaper drones
>Literally what type of CCA?

Kek. I wasn't aware that China started the war for Taiwan 5 years ago for us, and 5 years into the future for them.

>>64418049
Lol cbc is a unbiased new agency?

>>64418068
wheres your blue water navy that allows your bombers to actually target our bases lol

>>64418049
And this pants shitting story is supposed to be more believable than a report that the Chinese reported themselves

>>64418078
Who needs those if our missiles have global reach and our FOBS can circle the earth two times before we decide that it should strike your technical colleges and research centers and the suburbia McMansions/college dorms holding the very last of your 100+ IQ people?

>>64418097
Congrats; you are boasting about tech that the soviets made in the 60s.

>>64418097
now you sound like a fake shill

>>64418068
dude, the PLAF was seething about nancy pelosy NON ARMED NOT STEALTH CIVILIAN PLANE going through their entire radar and fleet just by jamming their shit.
what the fuck do you think is going to happen when there's armed stealth fighters and EW specialized planes and navy in the mix ?

>>64418089
You probably never went outside or out of your bubble and saw how strong Chinese games and cdramas are in Asia.
All of Akihabara is filled with Genshin/Other Chinese Gacha adverts which make billions each month, and Ximending in Taipei is filled with Bilibili Otakus who are streaming their cosplay dances on Douyin.
The young population actually travels to Shanghai for ACG expos and to shop and know that China of 2025 is a much more advanced place than Taiwan is.

Funny that you are some AIT staffer. Guess the US really only hires the dumb and ignorant. Or you are one of those 1450 shill briade of the Taiwan army - which in that case, I aint even mad since that's just your job and you have to pay your rent, I guess.

>>64418104
Soviets could never do accurate missiles or any form of live surveillance tech. We can.

>>64418128
>We can.

post literally any proof you are in china

>>64418124
>gachaslop
Is this supposed to be some display of this so called soft power you keep going on about? How does this tangentially relate to weapons?

>>64418037
anything combustible or explodable in china, probably

>>64418124
>major port cities get business and the bulk majority midwit IQ anime fan is a retard
You said nothing that surprises anybody, nor anything meaningful.

>>64418128
I mean, I have yet to see any tests that involve striking a moving naval target with hypersonics in their decades of deployment; SAR and EO is just the first part of the kill chain.

>>64418128
>we

>>64418097
>FOBS can circle the earth two times
so it can be shot down more than twice as easily as a normal ICBM, implessive

>>64417859
god this is so fucking tiresome, can't they even pretend to understand the geometry in their mock-ups or are they actually this fucking bad at it?

>>64418124
>bilibili
Is that the hosting platform for a million overpriced, low quality, generic, webtoons that are ripoffs of last year's good mangas?

Oh I think it is.

>>64418124
>All of Akihabara is filled with Genshin/Other Chinese Gacha
rumao

>>64418148
Cruise missiles take like 10 hours to reach anything in China mainland, and their warheads are small and cant really damage anything beyond the most unprotected stuff. Also, they are easy to take down because >subsonic lmao

China's bombers carry hypersonic ALBMs with 7000 miles of range, which actually CAN be used against time-sensitive and protected/mobile/underground targets.

The H-20 which should carry these ALBMs internally, are much more of a threat than even hundreds of subsonic cruise missiles.

I think the funniest part of this thread is while the chink brigade is passionately pulling every page (taiwanese politics, photoshopped photos, games (games? like wtf?)) out of their script while the anons tone of voice sound like picrel

>>64418168
>Comiket

stopped being relevant since covid. Sorry.

>>64418133
its an ABC, always is

>>64418169
>The H-20 which should carry these ALBMs internally, are much more of a threat than even hundreds of subsonic cruise missiles.
>One diapersonic with a beacon sized RCS from the plasma sheath is hard to shoot down

Damn this is really implessive, china would definitely win in a fight with the US and should immediately commit to doing it since victory is certain, in fact they are losing face RIGHT NOW because they haven't claimed their free victory yet

>>64418049
Ironically, China can do what Russia couldnt: Attract the Taiwanese zoomers with their popular culture and make them want to join voluntarily.

Mihoyo won.
Genshin won.
Chinese Gacha games won.

No need for war, since anti-china generation on Taiwan are quite literally just the Millenials.
Old generation are staunch KMT/Chinese nationalists, younger generations are addicted to tiktok and chinese games - only the Gen X/Millenials are bitter little faggots pushing for Ukrainization.

Not different in South Korea too, btw.
The bitter incels are protesting in favor of martial law and war against China, while the rich and successful and fashionable are spending their weekends in Shanghai.

God, please,
I'm praying for the first time in 20 years,
I beg of you, please convince the American government to commit a timed cascade strike on the Chinese dam system.

It would be so fucking funny.

>>64418169
>and their warheads are small and cant really damage anything beyond the most unprotected stuff.
chink warheads are, lol

>>64418202
>gachaslop will help west Taiwan take Taiwan

>>64418196
Yes, they actually are hard to shoot down.
It comes down to their special trajectory and sudden changes in direction, making area air-defense and CEC useless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJvm63B2E0A

>>64418214
>shills ALBM
>switches to HGV when cornered
average chinkshill, everyone

>>64418213
Gachaslop won the KMT both recall votes where they anti-chinese/US-supported DPP wanted to kick out pro-Chinese local politicians.

They got slapped hard in that vote. The DPP that is. Not a single pro-chinese politician was recalled.

>>64418228
two more weeks and Taiwan will join west Taiwan voluntarily

>>64418214
>Millennium7
So he went from sucking zigger cock to chang cock now?

>>64418237
the story of viftually every bunkertroon on the internet

>>64418223
The ALBM has a dual-cone HGV warhead.
Ironically, it's the same sort of HGV that the US is planning to use once it is finally ready kek.

The current JL-1 ALBM features such a warhead, but this is also just the current version. The JL-2/3/4 etc will change to a more advanced gliding body.

By that time, I think the US might finally get their dual cone missile ready.

>>64418244
>The current JL-1 ALBM features such a warhead, but this is also just the current version. The JL-2/3/4 etc will change to a more advanced gliding body.
I believe that you believe that. also, how much do you make as a shill?

>>64418244
>The ALBM has a dual-cone HGV warhead.
sure thing bro

plasma quantum stealth hypersonic HGV laser warhead will save china from being bombed into the ground.

>>64418202
You are 4 years to late.
Gooksloop is the trendy one now

Implessive

>>64418236
With how the DPP is mismanaging the taiwanese economy, the KMT under the newly elected pro-chinese chairwoman will definitely make a comeback next election. The pro-chinese parties are already controlling the majority in the parliament anyway, which is why the DPP tried that little stunt of a recall to drive them out via popular vote - which they failed.

Once the pro-chinese party is back in power, President Ma's pro-Chinese policies of economic interconnectivity that has been broken down due to US color revolution in 2014 (Sunflower Movement) will continue and probably a rerun of the ECFA economic association treaty with China will happen. From then on, peace-treaty to end the civil war and reunification is the next step.

>>64417839 (OP)
cute paint scheme

>>64418251
Impressive how the US LRWS is still just a dual-cone missile like the Pershing or DF-21/26 series.

The US will never have a gliding body HGV in service at this rate. The US simply lacks the fundamentals in science and math for this. PhD in ebonics and law can only do so much.

>>64418260
two more weeks and Taiwan will join west Taiwan voluntarilyx2

so the chinese really haven't realized the US' public release of hypersonic information, through the various ways in the past ten years, was solely to make China waste time money and resource on building them? And that we already had hypersonic defeating missiles, and expected to have better and more of them by the time we expected China to field functional equivalents of our 1970s research?

They really didn't understand any of that, even though so much information was widely publicly disseminated?

What the fuck China.

>>64418280
>The US will never have a gliding body HGV in service
1980s called, they want their obsolete tech back

corruption, gutter oil and bat soup don't pair well with IP theft

>>64418296
Dont forget dog torture

>>64418290
Hypersonics are really only good against stationary but time sensitive targets, because they're expensive as fuck. If the biggest military isn't putting them as a priority but rather a complement to existing systems, that should tell you something.

>>64418124
So what you're saying is the china has the most cancerous culture imaginable?

>>64418314
they're facing very strong competition from russia desu

nice

also makes /k/ seethe, which i enjoy greatly.

>>64417977
From Russian airbases in Chukotka: https://www.twz.com/air/chinese-h-6-missile-carrier-jets-appear-for-the-first-time-off-alaska

>>64417859
>>64418359
>>64417977

>>64418044
Did Saddam have aircraft carriers, 5th gen fighters and BVR missiles that actually shot down 4.5th gen fighters in real life combat?

>>64418380
Nobody has mentioned how the chinese plane is launching on full afterburner, while the F-35 as shown is only using Mil-STD power setting.

>>64418251
Where are the US YJ-17 and YJ-19?

>>64418359
>so instead of going for a western flank they are going to try and push past the entire the majority of where the defenses are and have been since the 50s

>>64418380
You didn't need to prove you are a paid shill this hard, chang

>>64418386
Is that why the F-35 almost became a coral reef?

>>64418389
non-functional plastic mockups? in the lab where they belong.

>>64418395
Why won't you show a chinese plane catobar'ing from a rough sea state without afterburner?

>>64418359
The key here is that a supersonic H-20 might not even need those Russian airbases anymore, but just overflight rights over Russia.
The first gen ALBM like JL-1 already has sufficient range vs CONUS, and if China was evil, there would be an optimized CJ-1000 for internal carriage for some more whooping.

>>64418401
YJ-21/YJ-20 is functional and in service with the Type 055 cruisers already.

>>64418405
>a supersonic H-20
lol, lmao even

>>64417839 (OP)
How many of these fucking things is China going to make prototypes of before they actually settle on a design and start mass producing? Starting to think they don't know what they actually want

>>64418401
What about CG renders instead?

>>64418386
Nobody needs to mention it because this sort of thing is only implessive to retarded changs
>rough seas vs calm seas
>full combat load vs nothing
>not shot for propaganda vs shot for propaganda
Anyone with even half a functioning brain can see straight through this, alas, implessiveshillposters still find a way to limbo under this low cognitive bar

>>64418407
>chinky jumps to another goalpost again
>to another Pershing II copy no less
what's your opinion on the chinese women's thirst for white semen and attraction to white cock?

>>64418420
how do these things work if the warhead is soo small

>>64418413
china can't even render a proper 5th gen so what about them?

Until China stop losing ground battles to India, I can't take them seriously.

>>64418395
You seem to have missed what the anon was talking about.
What that video proves is a J-35 requires afterburner and steady sea for the same launch speed and altitude gain as an F-35 launched off afterburner, and with the carrier pitching down during the F-35's ramp run.

Basically, that CCP video actually shows China is weak and you wumao clowns need to stop posting it.

>>64418410
see
>>64417859
and
>>64417839 (OP)


The argument is that the previous subsonic H-20 concept is dead in the water and redesigned as a supersonic stealth bomber.
The H-20 (old) is being realized as a unmanned stealth bomber GJ-X that is as large as the US B-21 and will take over all those dangerous missions like dropping freefall bombs over enemy targets, while the H-20 (new) will be the actual nuclear triad member.

>>64418427
How many times do we need to teach you old man.

>>64418429
implessive, tluly these blurry photos with propaganda numbers attached signify the stalt of chinese century

>>64418428
The deck literally pitched down AFTER the Fat-35 dropped off the deck

>>64418429
>The argument is that the previous subsonic H-20 concept is dead in the water and redesigned as a supersonic stealth bomber.
So they're gonna spend another 20 years in the lab coming up with a new concept?

>>64418442
Should I trust you, a paid CCP shill, over my own eyes?

>>64418442
I think you are blind

>>64418445
>coming up with a new concept
impossible, they'll spend another 20 years stealing money and seeking for another 40 year old rejected US project to (poorly) imitate.

>>64418442
>107IQ
>supposedly
lol apparently not

>>64418447
>$0.50 has been deposited from USAID

>>64418465
how much do you get?

>>64418427
why are you pajeets gripping their ears when surrendering to the PLA?

>>64418465
>USAID
These shill's scripts are barely updated wtf

>>64418449
You didn't see how the deck only pitched down after the F-35 left the deck and then pitched up?

>>64418471
I think you need to go see a doctor

>>64418411
Drones like that take about 6-7 years.

The Sharp Sword GJ-11 UCAV was unveiled at the 2019 military parade and this year it has been spotted in Tibet, deployed at the Shigatse AFB.

>>64418482
The GJ-21 carrier variant has participated in this year's parade as well.

implessive!

>>64418476
>>64418482
>having more than one copy, especially where one is covered in shit colored paint, must mean that it is deployed now

>>64418380
hownew.txt

>>64418498
It's a cover.

>>64418471
yeah
i will now enjoy you seething with rage

>>64418516
seriously, why did he choose the most retarded hill to die on

>>64418521
he's literally just following a script

>>64418286
it's 2 more years. Have you gotten the 2027 memo?

>>64418516
When the F-35 left the deck you can clearly see how the plane was above the horizon, then fell off completely where not even the vertical stabilisers could be visible then it gained altitude as the deck pitched up.You just proved my point.

>>64417859
>it is suggested
by whom?

>>64418521
>>64418524
The most obvious samefagging in history

>>64418000
Chinese people have wider and longer torsos and shorter limbs than Whites.
Even if they're reasonably tall, they have manlet proportions, just bigger.

>>64418536
yeah

>>64418538
What is phoneposting?

>>64417954
Why are the contrails coming from the control surfaces and not the engines?

>>64418541
what you are doing, next question alex?

>>64418536
>>64418541
wrong pic but still kys lol

>>64418068
>Just like how we have disarmed you by banning Rare Earth Exports to you, essentially throwing a wrench in your reindustrialization and rearmament plans.
You heard it here first, /k/
The US is completely disarmed

>>64418516
We are reaching levels of cope that shouldn't even be possible.

>>64418532
>what is momentum
you guys are actual retards, aren't you?

>>64417869
>it's flat. The B2 stealth bomber is flat, therefore anything flat is stealthy, therefore this is stealthy.
my whore of an ex sure was stealthy

>>64418555
>comprated

>>64418554
it's quite embarrassing for them that the chinks STILL wont do anything despite the US being completely disarmed
the US is so weak, they could defeat them tomorrow in glorious battle, and yet they do not, curious

>>64418544
duel dumping can be done either way.

>>64418579
Sorry chud, but Trump literally surrendered and wants to talk to Xi now because of the REE bans that are derailing like everything the Pentagon has planned for the next decades.

China 100% controling the refinery and production of heavy REEs is like the US choking off Japan from iron ore and oil in WW2 - only worse, since you literally cannot refine heavy REEs or create neodymum permanent magnets without Chinese technologies. Having REE mines is of no use, if you dont have the tech and facilities to refine all 9 elements at the same time out of a given portion of REE soil. The US has only the technology to refine one or two elements and the US soil doesnt have high concentration of the heavy elements unlike China's reserves.

Wow is xinnie the pooh ok since the west taiwan schilling is so intense.

>>64418610
So how has F-35 production gone up from 120 to 160 a year and AAMRAM production quadrupled to 2400/year since the US companies were banned from REEs since the beginning of 2023 under China's UEL?

>>64418641
no dont look at that

>>64418610
>Xi's senior moment was a good thing, actually.

>>64418068
>Just like how we have disarmed you by banning Rare Earth Exports to you
The only thing that accomplished was the acceleration of disentanglement from China. I am beyond thrilled Xi did that.

>>64418527
>it's 2 more years.
2 more decades*

>>64418641
China literally only enacted the ban a week ago.
Before, China freely sold their REE products to anyone.

The F-35 and other US wonderwaffen being filled stock full of Chinese parts and alloys is not news. It has been known for years.

https://thediplomat.com/2022/09/chinese-parts-in-the-f-35-highlight-concerning-trend-in-the-us-defense-sector/

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022/09/07/pentagon-suspends-f-35-deliveries-over-chinese-alloy-in-magnet/

>>64418666
Kek you literally cant.
Almost nobody has REE mines and absolutely nobody has refineries for heavy elements. You will do like Russia and cannibalize Washing machines and coffe makers and smart fridges for their REE magnets. Enjoy.

>>64418679
>The F-35 and other US wonderwaffen
There it is.

>>64417839 (OP)
Vely impleassive. Very ching khu lung

>>64418679
How embarrassing is it when you don't even know about the UEL? And if you bothered to read the article, the deliveries were suspended because they contained REEs from China, violating DFARS, not because they didn't have REEs. The US has been independent from China for defense REEs for a long time.

>>64418694
lmao you are not independent and all your other venues and attempts have failed due to the simple reason that you literally do not have the energy generation capacities to refine heavy REE.
Instead, all you did is to send that REE ore to China to refine and buy the finished products. This has been ongoing to this day, no matter how much you "dont buy from China" but instead from another country who imported it from China for you.

>>64418679
China currently is only responsible for 62% of REE production and refinement globally. Five years ago it was 95%. By 2025 its share is projected to be around 30%.

There are 14 new mines coming online, outside of China, and 30 exploration projects. There are currently five REE refineries outside of China with another 14 in various stages of construction.

My most sincere thanks for the senior moment. All it accomplished was bumping the stock of the companies running the above mentioned projects by ~20%. The capital inflows will certainly help speed Chinas decline.

>>64418705
>>64418710
>By 2025
*2035

>>64418691
Very impressive, white man.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/dutch-minister-says-he-will-meet-with-china-official-about-seizure-chipmaker-2025-10-19/

Where is your vaunted vitality? That company literally produces in China, which China blocked and banned any export to the West now. Didnt think that through did you?
That's the problem with you jews. You think that seizing the management and the financials will give you a win, while in reality the physical location of the factories is the key.

I'm sure you will be winning that coming Pacific War with your financial games while we sink your ships with physical missiles lmao.

>>64418710
>mines

that's your issue.

Mines are abundantt, but you are still exporting the ore to China because China has the refineries and the technology for the heavy elements.

Even your slop explains why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaoHlVlHLWk&lc=UgxBw9aBH30EgWStN7B4AaABAg

You will never have the energy generation capacities as China. Ever.

>>64418727
>There are currently five REE refineries outside of China with another 14 in various stages of construction.

>>64418719
they actually manufacture in Germany, which is stated in that article that you so kindly provided
>the rest of this entire rambling post about china strongk
implessive

>>64418719
Impleassive

>>64418727
>Xi! We've dropped from a total market monopoly to just over a half share since 2017 and we will hold just a third of the market in 10 years. What should we do?
>threaten the entire fucking market and drive home to even the most distracted normie the importance of cutting us out the market?
>Excellent decision, Xi. Very Masculine. Very Wolf Warrior.

>>64418705
>posting 2 months old aislop
care to tell me about how a plant with 5% the capacity of total local REE production making sure they don't poison the entire town is a fail?

>>64418736
What the fuck is that a rocket? Why do they do this where people live?

>>64417999
Implessive

>>64418731
Those refineries will end up like all the other attempts.

China sanctioned Japan on REE in 2010 and for 15 years they tried to refine heavy REEs and do their own Nd magnets, but still fail to this day.

REE refining requires cheap energy, which you dont have. Simple. And it requires the actual tech and patents that allows you to extract them at economic scales without polluting your entire region and turning it into a nuclear wasteland, which you also dont have.

Sorry, but China has literally 40 years of lead in that. We have literally entire university courses on REE refining and 99% of all patents for heavy element refining.

>>64418747
>Those refineries will end up like all the other attempts.
Like when the US just passed a law in 2020 and went from producing zero chips in 2020 to what will be roughly 30% of global output by 2030? Btw, Chinas best projections are a 15% improvement over the same period.

You can just do things you know.

>>64418747
implessive

>>64418733
Yeah, germany and sent to China for further fabrication and packaging. Chip packaging is a major step, btw, the wafers are easy peasy since Nexperia is some Tier 3 MOSFET maker and not cutting edge at all.

That's why the dutch minister is grovelling and crawling to us and German carmakers are pissing themselves again.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/bmw-says-supplier-network-impacted-by-developments-chip-maker-nexperia-2025-10-16/

>>64418747
>Those refineries will end up like all the other attempts.
The other attempts that have resulted in Chinas market share dropping from ~95% in 2017 to 62% in the current year?

>>64418758
lmao their production is very limited and their Nd Magnets are famously shit and lose magnetism. If they were so great, Japan would have a much bigger market share than China especially after the trade war era.

Japan, again, only can produce porn these days. Nothing else. They are perpetually stuck in the 90s.

>>64418759
>the wafers are easy peasy since Nexperia is some Tier 3 MOSFET maker and not cutting edge at all
and yet chinks still cant do it, hence their attempted grab at Nexperia
implessive

>>64418759
>Behold how MIGHTY CHINA dominates the... Dutch (pop. 18 million)

>>64418742
Ching Chong chung rocket program launched prematurely and fell off a mountain. The ching officials said there were no casualties, which translates as a lot of chinks died

>>64418747
>>64418767

You're acting as if it's like nuclear tech when it's literally just infinitely scalable parallelized refining
Also care to mention how Japan mostly invested in recycling, not refining, because their ores are at the bottom of the sea?

>>64418767
>If they were so great, Japan would have a much bigger market share than China especially after the trade war era.
They too are most pleased by Xi's recent elder moment.

>>64418764
REE mining. Like forcing mexicans to dig some ore out of the ground.

But for refining of heavy REEs... Nope.

>>64418758
Japan also has to send their heavy REEs to China to refine, so that they can import it back to make magnet LMAO

>>64418767
>Japan can't manufacture magnets
>no don't look at their magnet manufacturers they dont count
rorr
rmao

>>64418773
You forgot to mention how those that survived all contracted cancer from the rocket fuel

>>64418778
*Ahem*
>Lynas Rare Earths – Malaysia (Gebeng/Kuantan) & Australia (Mt Weld)
>Lynas announced that in May 2025 it produced dysprosium oxide (a heavy REE) at its Malaysian facility — the first commercial HREE production outside China.
>Ucore Rare Metals – Canada / USA
>Ucore’s planned Louisiana separation plant is described as “one of the first major North American heavy REE supply chains” — feedstock includes heavy-REE carbonate from Greenland. Initial 2,000 t/year with scale-up to ~7,500 t/year by ~2028.
>SerraVerde Rare Earths – Brazil
>The project delivers key heavy REEs including Dy and Tb from ionic clay deposits in Goiás (Minaçu). While more focused on mining/extraction than full heavy‐refining, this contributes to HREE supply outside China.

>>64418773
Deaths from the explosions of these recent rocket crashes have been relatively minor.
The health damage short and long term from that massive amount of toxic rocket fuel smoke and particulate, has been quite high.

It makes the Ohio train crash look like a joke.