Thread 64433780

I was trying to find more reading material on the giga zigger mobile but everything is years old slop

>>64433780 (OP)
it was never real

Melted down to cast a Dacha.

He was sent to the Secret Real Army In Hiding up north, where he happily runs around with all the other Zigger Wunderwaffen

>>64433780 (OP)
It’s being kept for when the real war begins. When Russia actually starts trying.

>>64433793
This guy gets it. They're being used to contain the forces of Chernobog beneath the Urals. No, you may not see them, those who are not adequately prepared and sanctified will go insane from the merest glimpse.

Even BMPs seem to avoid off-road maneuvering and continue to drive on the road, stepping on mines. Is it possible to operate heavy AFV?

>>64433780 (OP)
Russia is lower than Mexico when it comes to industry.

>>64433780 (OP)
>be Russia
>have "revolutionary new tank" (tm) and IFV along it
>claim to have production line set up for both
>thousands of them were supposed to be build 5 years ago
>unprovoked invade neighbour brother nation
>war goes on for 3 years
>neither the "revolutionary new tank" (tm) and IFV participate in the war or are actually produced in any form of relevancy despite desperate need for such vehicles
The answer is Russia.

>>64433780 (OP)
Reserved for emergency.

>>64433780 (OP)
It never existed.

>>64433792
>>64433793
The real war is when a Russian general finally snaps from a lack of corruption kickbacks and drives columns into Moscow (for real this time, again).

>>64433780 (OP)
Nobody could stand sending such a beautiful thing to the front (especially when you only own one of them).

>>64433885
Honestly, taking Moscow might be too big of a risk; I could see some general taking over one of the smaller border cities and declaring it an autonomous economic oblast.
Would be kinda funny, desu

>>64433780 (OP)
Lost fighting the Gou'ald in the Russian Stargate program.

>>64433952
Do you really believe that fat fuck could fit through the gate?

>>64433780 (OP)
Cope, russia never NEEDED it.))))))))))))))))))

>>64433793
>It’s being kept for when the real war begins.
>real war
Russian civil war after humiliation in Ukraine?

>>64433792
Am I the only one who knows about the secret army of Sami super-soldiers with T-14s hidden in the Kola Peninsula?

>>64433780 (OP)
As a friendly reminder the DPRK has total over all superiority against Russia in troop strength, armored strength and artillery both SP and towed. They also have total naval dominance in the Pacific compared to Russia and make more artillery shells and rockets than Russia does.

They are close to getting air dominance as well.

That concludes my monthly reminder.

>>64433780 (OP)
It got redesigned as a yacht for someone

>>64434066
My parents are on a trip to SK rn. Should I be worried at all for the next week and a half?

>>64433951
This is Russia we are talking here. It's all about going in hard and with maximalist goals or not going in at all. Half-assing things will only get you killed as our dear Pringles found out

>>64434088
I don't think Norktard is there, so they should be fine.

>>64433801
>Implying Russia wouldn't be trying to bring the forces of Chernobog into our world to bolster their troops
Has the Kuznetsov taught you nothing?

>>64434088
>My parents are on a trip to SK rn. Should I be worried at all for the next week and a half?

Not in the slightest, Seoul is safe for the foreseeable future. At the moment the DPRK's nuclear armed missiles are pointed more towards Beijing than anywhere else.

This is probably the best thread to ask this question, but I remember some mythical BTR-82 based APC that Russians were making pop up in telegram channels from time to time, with a more centre-aligned turret and rear door.
And no, it was not the Bumerang, I specifically remember it being made as a budget alternative to that thing.

>>64434111
I seriously doubt that it would be cost effective to nuke a 70 square km unincorporated territory of Maine to kill the 11 people who are permeant residents even if one of them is me.

>>64434146
It was a joke about you being a spy in South Korea in prepartion of a north-korean invasion.

>>64434146
Also due to geography half or more of us would survive a nuking, up to and including a 1 mt ground burst. A 1 mt airburst would probable kill me if was within a couple of miles and i was unprepared..

>>64434157
Nope, i'm just a weirdo who lives in Maine who promotes the idea of a US/DPRK alliance.

>>64433952
I always loved how the first instinct of the russians in stargate was to shoot their scientists and then nerve gas themselves on the first sign of trouble

They postponed development on the T-15 to focus on the T-14.

>>64434211
They share most parts, if something that adds importance to the program and resources to fix the hardest parts (hull tech, powerplant).

>>64434211
They postponed development on the T-14 to focus on the T90.

>>64433952
>>64434205
The fact that in SG-1 the Russians got a space battle cruiser before China, France, the UK, India or even Israel , Pakistan or the DPRK is laughable in the present political context.

>You are now thinking about the fact that in the SG-1 universe there are Pakistani, Indian, Israeli and North Korean SG teams.
>It would take all of 30 seconds for the Norks to ally with Yu the instant they met


.

>>64434269
They postponed development on the T-90 to focus on the T72.

>>64434301
They postponed refitting T72 to focus on the T64

>>64434309
They postponed refitting T64 to focus on the T55

>>64434312
They postponed refitting T55 to focus on the T1

>>64434312
They postponed refitting T55 to focus on the MTLB

>>64434315
They postponed refitting MTLB to focus on the golfkart

>>64434320
They postponed purchases of golf cart to focus on the dirt bike

All the industrial capacity will be dedicated to produce Main Buhanka Tanks

>>64434322
They postponed usage of dirt bike to focus on the e scooter

>>64434325
they couldnt afford e scooter so now just donki

>>64434279
>Yu

They could have had an entire season where Earth allied with Yu and everyone who he rules over is fully aware of what he is and they are OK with it. He was a borderline Tok'Ra anyway, he would have been such a great foil to the SG teams. They could have had a whole episode where jack has to convince Thor that the Asguard need to fix him and that Yu's host was OK with it.

>>64434066
When, since before the days of Tsushima, had Russia anything resembling a dominance in the pacific?

>>64434330
Donke defected, so now they're focusing on pogo sticks

>>64434455
Pogo stick hit a landmine (one of their own), they are now using wheelbarrows to move troops around.

>>64434601
This whole sequence is why I still love /k/.

>>64434180
Was it you who made the little library with a booze, first aid, and emergency food supply thread? Or was that another Maine /k/ommando?

>>64434455
>the ass truly is in the ass as the ass has defected to the pigs and now the ass knows everything
Truly the darkest timeline.

>>64434630
Dump trucks feel like a century ago bros

>>64434973
Not so fast

>>64434601
Wheelbarrow was defective, they now send them on crutches.

>>64434975
>battle bus
*GLA anthem playing in the distance*

where is my rotund square girl..........

I find kinda funny they copied the Merkava system concept, like, Israel has managed to do everything Russia wishes it could do in terms of military industry by simply not being antagonistic to western countries and reserving most of the bullets to the diverse zutted peoples of mideast.

>>64434330
Back to the good trad donk

>>64434973
It's like Finnish tractor infantry, but more retarder. Using civilian tractors to haul troops and supplies is normal for a war, but using a big truck is just dumb. No off-road capabilities, just a big target. You can jump off from a tractor trailer, not from that.

>>64435584
>stop the tractor
>sergei runs away
It's actually smart if you don't want to lose meat on the path.

>>64435584
Waste of fuel, too.

>>64434066
>Gook diarrhea state having total naval dominance

Are you on drugs or retarded?

>>64433951
Taking Moscow is the only safe thing to do because it is the only city they might not bomb to get rid of insurgents. And we all know they would totally bomb even Moscow so there are no safe bets.

>>64434973
incredible to think that was when the Russian army was well equipped

>>64434088
Taking Moscow is the only option because it's the only place in russia that really matters. If you take Moscow and the current tsar can't stop you, you've shown him as too weak to rule. That means people looking to make friends with (and be rewarded by) the new, strong tsar are going to come out of the woodwork. Priggy's mistake in not marching on Moscow was believing monke actually was his friend and that rebelling against higher ranking boyars wouldn't get him killed. If he had taken it he would have been de facto in control of russia. Monke would have stayed on the throne of course, but the Shoigun certainly would have been purged and Priggy would have been able to run things behind the scenes. At the end of the day though he was just a retarded capo who genuinely thought the don valued him.

Fuck meant >>64436959 for >>64434103.

>>64433817
Wtf Greenland v. Australia?

>>64436959
I can't believe I am going to say this but I kinda miss Pringlesman. The "coup" was an actual mindfuck which made me glued to the threads tracking his location the whole afternoon and I was hoping to see some cool shit happen and in the end he gave up and I knew he's going to get fucked by Monke. Sich a pity he died for basically nothing but a few memes.

>>64434128
>DPRK's nuclear armed missiles are pointed more towards Beijing
Why tho? Aren't they besties with the chinks?

>>64434129
You're thinking about the Belarusian BTR-V2

>>64434601
>using wheelbarrows

>>64433780 (OP)
dead and gone

>>64436959
But you do realize what will happen when Moscow wil be taken, Putin might even let them in the end: They will destroy vital infrastructure in the Moscow and make sustaining the population impossible for the occupants and then Putin will just blame it on them and say this is what happens if i go away. And you know what? Russians will believe it.

>>64437241
>when Moscow wil be taken
bruh, it has already sank in like 2022

>>64437250
Yeah. Sank. Taken would mean being captured or raised/salvaged (which the Ukies should ABSOLUTELY do).

>>64433780 (OP)
>I was trying to find more reading material on the giga zigger mobile but everything is years old slop
it was zigger bullshit vapourware to cover for graft and corrption, usual russian and neocommie shite

>>64437434
Then set it up as a trophy into some park, like Russkies have captured stuff in that one park.

Russia not introducing pic related (a derivative of the program) may have unironically lost them the war in Ukraine.

Poland like 15 years ago (very poor at that time) was able to buy/build ~1000 Rosomak IFV's (Patria AMV's). Russia being unable to get pic related in production, at scale, is probably the most pathetic thing we have ever seen from them.

Imagine the combat effectiveness they would have had in the initial invasion if they had, say, 2000 modern wheeled Bumerang IFV's. With decent optics and a modern gun they would have been far more effective in combat than the elderly BTR's they have in service. While each platform has an extra 200km operational range, which lessens logistical burdens, and is far more survivable, reducing casualties among your initial forces (who will always be better trained than their replacements).

Had they got them in service, at scale, they would have maybe had a chance at zerg-rushing key objectives in the first week. But they didnt, they had a big fat army full of 50+ year old tracked vehicles that was slow and cumbersom that got stuck on country roads.

>>64437478
The pic related in question.

This is called PARADE MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
You Westerners don't understand.

>>64437481
Knowing Russkies, that hatch on the side under the star is the exit. BTR's suck so bad.

>>64437478
That wouldn't have done anything to change the rigid soviet command system, the complete breakdown of logistics, massively underestimating Ukranian resistance, and most importantly half a century of institutionalized corruption so bad commanders were selling off fuel and medical supplies up to the day of the invasion. Russia lost the war the second Ukraine didn't immediately fold, and all those would have done is ended up stuck in a field without any fuel.

>>64437478
>>64437481
Wheeled IFVs are the future.

>>64437180
there's no actual fucking way this is a long-term storage thing right? This was a temporary thing for moving to a parade or something, right?

>>64437478
Ah yes, that's right, through another 2,000 vehicles into the army set on attack + move to Kiev. Make that 40km stalled convoy 70km instead.
>n-n-no I mean use them instead of X Y Z
Ah so they still have the 40km stalled convoy
>b-b-but fuel efficiency is better than X YZ
Ah so only 30km stalled convoy?

The invasion would have worked if

1. Russia had spent another 18 months working on kompromating Ukrainian politicians and command structures like the FSB asked Putin to do instead
2. Russia had planned for a proper war, not a two week one with a regime change done in three days (originally the plan was to get to Kiev in 48 hours)
3. Russia had invested in both the logistics and non-corrupt police force to make sure the logistics didn't do what they did which was mass sell their fuel, ammo, MREs, body armour and anything else they could get their hands on because they thought it would be over in a day or two and they could get some extra cash and say the equipment was lost in action.

>>64437478
>Imagine the combat effectiveness they would have had in the initial invasion if they had, say, 2000 modern wheeled Bumerang IFV's
There would be zero difference

>>64437478
>>64437481
That's just one symptom of their much larger corruption issue.
No single wunderwaffen could have changed the tide of the war that was doomed from the beginning.

>>64437653
>that was doomed from the beginning
Well it isn't really doomed, it's just a million times more costly both in manpower, materiel and long term economic stability. As long as Trump keeps trying to give Putin everything he wants and more, they're fine.

As for weapons, had they had their planned 3,000 T-14's or however many it was they wanted for 2020, they might have progressed further simply because lack of explosive turret tossing.

>>64437158
That's an interesting one, but not it.
I've found it, it was the BTR-22.

>>64437567
Drone and artillery delivered antipersonnel mines have made wheeled vehicles almost irrelevant on the front lines of Ukraine. A PFM pops tires every time and a bomber drone can carry a hundred of them farther than one AT mine.
Ukrainians say tracks are mandatory for the front lines in 2025.

>>64437827
Why haven't both sides developed makeshift mine plows? They'd be far more effective than cope cages and easier to build.

>>64437946
They've built some, but since they're so uncommon it must be less effective than you think.

>>64437687
>because lack of explosive turret tossing.
The T-14 is still a turret tosser, it just theoretically wont kill the crew as often.

>>64433780 (OP)
still working hard on getting all its budget stolen and making as many people as possible have bullshit no-work jobs based on it

>>64434975
CRUISIN' ON DOWN MAIN STREET

>>64437500
It's such an awkward place to disembark from.

>>64438498
But isn't that a chemical testing kit? I have it in my VSS box.

>>64438515
post it I wanna see

>>64438566
Ere, innit.

>>64438588
sugoi

>>64438599
I've got few hundred bucks worth of stuff in the VSS box. Some of it is from a run down fallout shelter, mostly I've bought the stuff. I love the nomex cloves and fisrst aid dressings. And my Alnor radiation meter.

>>64438515
>>64438588
If there is some Soviet CBRN autists, lemme know the difference and how much of it is Finnish alternation?

>>64437180
those are T-14s, not T-15s.

>As part of an exercise called Marshal Power, the Bundeswehr is currently carrying out an exercise involving some 500 military police as well as hundreds of first responders from police, fire and rescue services.
>The drills are being conducted in public spaces in a dozen Bavarian towns and cities to the north of Munich, including Erding
>Bavarian police responded to reports of a man carrying a weapon and deployed multiple units to the southeast of Erding, including a helicopter, early on Wednesday evening.
>The military police fired practice ammunition at the arriving police officers, believing this was part of the military exercise.
>The police officers then reportedly fired back with live ammunition, hitting one of the soldiers.
>"Due to a misinterpretation at the scene, shots were fired," the Bavarian police said in a statement.
>The soldier has since been discharged from hospital, where he was treated for minor facial injuries from a grazing shot.

>>64438591
>hop in my Bum!

>>64433780 (OP)
russia lost most of their pre-war stuff

>>64434432
>When, since before the days of Tsushima, had Russia anything resembling a dominance in the pacific?
Never and that's the point i am trying to make.

>>64434921
That was me. I'm quite proud of it, pic related

>>64437149
No they are not.

>>64443842
The rear of that Library has enough food, water purification tablets, toilet paper and supplies to keep a family of 4-5 people alive for 6 months.