Thread 64441573

Ideas.
Programs that won't win a near peer war
Programs that have proven ineffective.
Weapons platforms that were built for past wars, not furture wars.
MOSs that have proven they can't get it done.
Hell, entire units that have proven they can't get it done.

Suggest cuts. And every time you cut, where do you place that money?

Not doing your homework for you, Hegseth

>>64441573 (OP)
>Weapons platforms that were built for past wars, not furture wars.
the M7

>>64441573 (OP)
Either make sure new recruits can pass a pt test prior to basic or make it so that basic actually gets trainees to pass.

>>64441573 (OP)
>Weapons platforms that were built for past wars, not furture wars.
All of them

>>64441573 (OP)
Cut the civilian sector, nationalize all industry, and draft all residents into the military

>>64441596
May be worthwhile to go deeper into the body pool and fix the diets of middle schoolers and upwards. Broke fags feed their kids broke diets which leads to fatties enmasse, hurting readiness.

>>64441573 (OP)
Trust bust the top 10 companies on the Dow Jones.

>>64441596

Do they not do this? When I joined the Marines back around 2010 you had to regularly go PT with others who signed up and if you couldn't meet a minimum PT requirement before it was time for you to get sent off they'd either give you another month or two to get into shape or just drop you. We lost a few guys who could probably bench me because they couldn't run for shit even with months of training

>>64441605
>draft all residents
But they are fat. You'd just end up with a mega-version of Germany's current military, fat slobs with minimal training.

CUT
THE
FUCKING
BANDS

See from earlier this month.
https://youtu.be/O_LAdQnFbVA?t=3161

What the FUCK even is this?

>>64441608
Sorry bub. Best we can do is cut SNAP and take red meat off SNAP benefits. Gotta make America healthy again.

>Army
Cut out 2/3rds of the Apache fleet, too vulnerable against drones but still somewhat useful against tanks and thirdies should we have another sandbox war
Throw out all MRAPs and focus on on JLTVs
Stop buying 60s Paladins and buy more HIMARS instead
>Navy
Scrap the entire Freedom class LCS but keep the Independences
Stop making SM-2s
Retire half the old Ticos
>Air Force
Retire the E-3s and use the E-2Ds as a stopgaps while accelerating E-7 production
Finally get rid of the A-10s
Retire all F-15C/Ds
Retire all block 30 F-16s (some 200 aircraft)
>Marines
Get rid of the Harriers, otherwise already perfect. Navy's gator boats work for distributed ops, fight me.

Sloppa bot tells me I'll save $12b in annual costs over the course of 5 years, all of that goes straight to missiles. SM-6, JATM, JASSM/LRASM, PrSM, PAC-3, ESSM, AARGM-ER, LHRW, respectively.

>>64441605
good way to turn American into Venezuela.

>>64441625
With Trump's love for fanfare, media bullshit and vanity, it would never happen. He's much more of a media personality than a businessman.

>>64441779
We just need SM-6’s for everything.
>all air to air weaponry is SM-6
>all interceptors are SM-6
>throw some SM-6’s into x-37 bays and keep ‘em in orbit to intercept ICBM’s
>all ship VLS is just SM-6
>strap them onto every AWACS because fuck it
>MLRS with, you guessed it, SM-6
>Jerry rig one onto every Stryker and Bradley
>marines get crew-served SM-6 on tripod a la Davy Crockett
I bet even a sub can horizontally launch them underwater at other subs

>>64441779
Counterproposal. Instead of cutting the Apaches, we take 2/3rds of all active Abrams and toss them in the garbage. Otherwise, we do the rest of this.

Deal we have a deal?

>>64442150
Sell all to random SEA countries

>>64442150
Sure, how about both then? Abrams are really only viable for homeland defense with the proliferation of drones, unless we slap M-SHORAD systems on it somehow. Another $2b saved.
>>64441944
This unironically

>>64441573 (OP)
>no more individual service combat uniforms, we're going back to BDUs and DCUs for everyone
>M7 goes in the fucking trash because 6.8 has always been a fucking scam, 20 inch ARs will be the standard again
>IHPS goes in the fucking trash
>M320s go in the fucking trash (re. sold off to third worlders), M203s are cheaper and not unwieldy pieces of shit, we're going back
>Space Force goes in the fucking trash
>Marines get their tanks, M249s, and Scout Snipers back
>sell off the F-22 fleet to rich aviation enthusiasts because it's completely fucking redundant with the F-35 now in full production
>A-10 replacement will be unmanned to save on money and so the Air Force will stop bitching about how its' putting their pilots at risk
>axe all fucking tiltrotors
>axe football teams and other stupid shit that has nothing to do with the mission of defending the interests and territorial integrity of the United States
>LCSs and Zummwalts go straight to the ship breakers, America-class gets used as target practice in SINKEX
>CVN-80 gets renamed to USS Constitution because Crysis, end tradition of naming carriers after Presidents in general because it's cringe and the last five definitely are not fit for that honor even if it wasn't
>redirect all funding for Israel to Ukraine (TZD will save us more money in the long run than TPD, sorry Jews)
>give Ukraine access to all hardware deemed surplus to requirements
>court-martial everyone involved in making that fucking "two moms" recruitment commercial
>all the Confederate bases get their names back and all the Union ones get renamed to Fort Niggerlover
>change the name back to Department of Defense because Department of War has always been pure fucking cringe, every other country uses Department/Ministry of Defense
>no invading Venezuela until the changeover is complete so I can finally live out my Ghost Recon 1 and 2 fantasies IRL
>bomb the shit out of Russia, Pakistan, and Myanmar

>>64441596

MEPS already does that

>>64442316
What did Myanmar do?

>>64442325

'ate tyrants
luv freedom fighters

Simple as

>>64442351
Nah, China deserves to have its own little Mexico.

>>64441573 (OP)
Chocolate chip camo for everyone.
This is my only change.

Oh, and kill the A-10 and give it the Tomcat treatment. No spares. No replacement parts. No blueprints. No manufacturing documents. Nothing that some retard in the future could potentially use to bring it back.

>>64441779
>Army
>cut 2/3rds of a division's most lethal deep maneuver asset and eliminate our ability to shape the 48-72 hour fight
Absolutely dank

>>64442362
As much as I hate to say it, a lot of it'll be replaced by drones. Not a dronenigger I swear.

>>64441596
Repiblitards keep voting against universal free school lunches because they don't want to pay for it, maybe justify this by saying school lunches suck. School lunches suck because making them better would cost money. Healthier school lunches cost more than ultra processed slop because the entire US food supply chain is retarded and favors mega processed good getting shipped back and forth all the way across the country.

Euros seethe about VAT but that plus better regulations are literally why the food is healthier and transformed into its final products closer to the point of consumption.

>>64442407
The only non droneniggers will be dead niggers. Even legacy platforms should come with their own flock of drones.

>>64442416
>school lunches suck
Okay, they can eat shit food without consuming sugar. You can give poor fat kids in Kansas all the kobe beef, fish oils, and beets you want, they will still shovel additional General Mills sugar into their fat gullet.

>>64442439

How the fuck do you even get that fat?

Like, I've let myself go pretty badly in 2020-2022, but I started hiking 2-3 times a week after I got laid off in 2023 and I lost like 30 pounds over the course of a year.

>>64442456
Also if you stab a fat person, they fart from their wounds.

>>64442456
>How the fuck do you even get that fat?
Usually regular and sustained reckless comfort eating, a self-inflicted eating disorder used as a coping mechanism for other issues, like depression. Similar to how some people cope with drugs, booze, sex, gambling, etc.

It may also be learned over-eating due to bad parenting during childhood. Either through ambivalent neglect or deliberate abuse.

One of my old coworkers, who was a close friend, used to be even fatter than that.
That was because his mom was legit insane and afraid of "losing" him, so she deliberately tried to make her son unattractive to women by fattening him up. Taught her kid from childhood to always clean his plate or face punishment, then just served larger and larger portions until the guy was like 400lbs.
He ended up resenting her, moved out and cut all ties with her. While living alone, he lost over a hundred pounds a year by just starving himself, living on black coffee and cigarettes, with occasional small meals a few times a week.
He's thin now, but his body is still fucked up for life.

>>64441573 (OP)
COIN. Fuck hearts and minds, they have neither. Kill every male and no one will fight you. From birth to old age ALL MALES DIE.

>>64442416
Europoor does not have superior food, they have the same chemicals with a different name
Fucking simpleton.

>>64441605
>nationalize all industry

what does this do? do you think that gets rid of corruption?

>>64442757
No one innovates harder than a government lackey or military mook. We'd be in space already if all business was nationalized.

>>64441613
>>64441608
Its not a diet issue. You can eat like shit but if you watch your calories and workout youll be good to go. So many dudes failed osut because they couldnt pass their pt test. Recruiters and mepps just push people through to fail

>>64442743
Incorrect. You may be able to cherry pick some examples of that, but by and large if you go out and eat in most Euro countries the food you're eating is less processed, with fewer chemicals, and was produced closer to where you're eating it.

It's OK if you've never been anon, but don't act like you know anything.

>>64441573 (OP)
>Cuts
NGSW, Freedom class, Burke class, F-22, draw down F/A-18 fleet, NGAD, OA-1K, SSN(X), M777 and any other towed artillery still in service and reduce SPG fleet
>Spending
F-35, more F-35s, F-35 engine core upgrade, F/A-XX, Zumwalt class, M10 Booker.

>>64441573 (OP)
>its a reformer thread

>>64441573 (OP)
cut out the Air-force reserves.
I genuinely don't know why we have it when the Air National Guard already exists.
Do the same with Space Force part-timers while we're at it.

>>64442416
feed yo fuckin kids, nigga

psy-op politicians so they won't drag their feet at the next big one

>>64443739
Not seeing the problem with the politicians as its teaching faggots financial discipline.

>>64442407
In the sense that all vehicles and eventually all front line soldiers will be replaced by drones, yes.

>>64443766
>replaced
lol
augmented with yes. or treated as entirely separate formations yes. but there will be no sitting on the bench.

Get rid of the army or reduce it by half. We're a nation that projects power onto shores and lands far away. We only need the navy and marines to do that. Air force is still relevant for global strike and mobility.

>>64441573 (OP)
The Navy needs to be almost completely gutted and reworked as an institution. All of it. Everything.

>>64443823
i thought the army had boats

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_United_States_Army

>>64443949
Also more special privileges for Chiefs.

>>64443801
Some day in the far future, robots will do an infantryman's job better than a human can.

>>64443054
This is so incoherent especially when you talk about cutting down SSNs and NGAD, two programs that give the US a lopsided advantage because our tech there is just so far ahead.
Also M777s cost nothing to maintain, why are you throwing them away for meme Bookers?

>>64442316
>MEPS already does that
It does not
>t. spent 3 years getting waivers to bypass meps and their bullshit and then spent 6 weeks getting hit on by an obese african that never passed the PT test without her score getting "massaged"