Thread 64441649

Does VZ have a chance to make it at least pyrrhic? They have missile and tech from China and Russia.

global boker face

>muh missiles
Just don't fly where you aren't authorized dumbfuck.
Cow fuckers are so retarded.

>>64441649 (OP)
The only thing that can save them is US incompetence, the good news is this is the most incompetent admin in history.

>>64441659
Cope

>>64441664
>we changed it to the department of war
>well not officially but in our press releases
>this means the alcholoic fox host is a great commander

>>64441649 (OP)
If Venezula tries to fight back its gonna be Desert Storm but worse because you're gonna have US troops finally go to a country where the women are actually fuckable. The innate drive to muttify is all the motivation they need.

>>64441669
>getting mad over an aesthetic change becuase CNN told you to

>>64441669
keep coping, brownoid. nothing will save Venezuela.

>>64441669
Poopskin hands typed this post.

>>64441649 (OP)
Not really. Washington is fed up of Langley not being able to do the usual and institute a right wing junta and overthrow a "democratically" elected South American leader (in fairness, the current gov't is illegal even by Venezuala's current constitution), and now they just want to RETVRN to the ol' banana republic method of the late 1800s-early 1900s.

>>64441664
He's right though. Administrations since 2008 were all one disaster after another.

>>64441716
Uhhh. From an outsider perspective wouldn't it be slightly whiter indios (us troops) having sex with the slightly browner indio (venezuelan) because 70% of your army are the mexican americans?

Spain couldn't colonize all of these people, no? How is the turn out for american hispanics breeding with their own lesser caste?

>>64441737
I'd argue everyone since Kennedy

>>64441745
>lesser caste
pajeet

>>64441649 (OP)
>igla vs f35's
Lol, lmao

The only way US airpower suffers casualties is accidents, incompetence, or if one of venezuala's f16's gets incredibly lucky and/or kamikazes into a carrier. All of these are possible of course.

>>64441723
I don't need anyone to tell me that inviting journalists into attack plan discussions is bad.

>>64441727
>>64441730
Every white country is turning against you because you are acting like niggers.

>>64441745
South American spics have simultaneously the most minute racial differences and are also the most virulently racist amongst eachother, the whole subcontinent is like if the Balkans had been given enough space and were too lazy to kill eachother.

>>64441753
How do you do the latter without the US going full shoah on you?

>>64441765
>Every "white" country
So muslim states with white populations.

>>64441765
>Every white country is turning against you because you are acting like niggers.
We are. So what? Maybe Europe should stand up and out develop, research, and produce us. It's kind of pathetic 45-50 million productive white Americans absolutely MOG anything you've accomplished in 70 years. You've had plenty of time to chill after the world war. Get off your ass and work.

The fuck is a MANPAD gonna do to a ground hugging TLAM or an F-35 at 30k feet

>>64441765
Mike Waltz did that not Hegseth.

>>64441765
>Every white country
to bad you're not from one

>>64441802
Technically cruise missiles can be shot down with MANPADs, we've seen this happen time and time again in Ukraine, including russian bootleg tomahawks (kaliber) being shot down like that. The issue is your window of opportunity.

>>64441664
Nothing says competent like inviting a journalist to your sekrit briefings on an unsecured platform where you announce strikes with emojis and gossip like old women.

>>64441808
Hegseth posted shit without checking who is in the chat

>>64441649 (OP)
russia also has the same tech and their 3 day war in Ukraine became 3 year war and soon to become 4

>>64441808
1. Is Mike Waltz or is he not part of the administration
2. Shouldn't Hegseth have checked who was part of that chat before announcing strike details ahead of time
3. Shouldn't Hegseth know better than to use an unsecure platform for this shit? Considering the government built a whole actually secure platform just for this kind of thing?

>>64441831
Don't forget
4. it's a crime not to use the desigated systems
5. it's a crime to delete messages like this (their signal chat was set to 1 week auto delete)

>>64441831
>Shouldn't Hegseth know better than to use an unsecure platform for this shit?
yeah. but from what I heard, a lot of the government does shit like this. mostly politicians, but still.

>>64441649 (OP)
Iglas could threaten helicopters. They also have S-125 and a single battalion of S-300VM. That's easily their most capable system. My guess is those are being tracked 24/7.

>>64441649 (OP)
>read around about this conflict
>dumb ass president overstepping and using show of force
Surprised he didn't mobilize the coast guard instead of the navy. CG typically does homeland security stuff.

>>64441840
The current administration is so blatantly corrupt and criminal that shit like this doesn't even register. For example, every time Trump announces tarriffs someone just happens to short stocks that might be affected. Compared to that and the open, blatant invitations for bribery and influence peddling what's a little violations of 18 U.S.C. § 2701 and 18 U.S.C. § 1030 between friends?

>>64441831
>>64441840
It's more just the manufactured outrage over a nothing burger. If the military was shidding and fardding sure, be upset. But we've seen nothing but success in the actual military action taken by this admin. The Iran strikes were amazing, both geopolitical and military.

>>64441856
>But we've seen nothing but success in the actual military action taken by this admin
Iran had by their own admission been planned for 20 years, the only other military action was the same droning of thirdies Obama did the whole time.

>>64441669
so why didn't opsec fail for the iran strikes then
and why did not total opsec for the houthi strikes (which your image is referencing) not influence the strikes effectiveness?

>>64441855
that's been going on forever. the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker is a thing for a reason.

>>64441856
>The Iran strikes were amazing, both geopolitical and military.
The planning and execution of the strikes in all down to the career military officers who planned and flew them. Not Hegseth and his weirdo friends.
You just like him because Hegseth has been slow walking and outright preventing aid from reaching Ukraine despite direct orders from Trump to send it, and you're a russian scumbag (nobody but russian shills talks about "geopolitics").
Fortunately Hegseth can't do that anymore because control of Ukrainian aid has been removed from him and passed to an actual general, who presumably will follow lawful orders.

>>64441856
>It's more just the manufactured outrage over a nothing burger
Not really, it paints a picture of retards doing retarded things. Just because it didn't blew things up this time doesn't really matter. This crap was russia-tier bullshit.

>>64441865
Because the journo didn't commit treason.
You can have a leak get to someone that isn't your enemy, it's still bad and shows a massive failure of opsec but if they aren't treasonous or retarded it won't effect ops.

>>64441868
Congress being allowed to trade stocks is blatent corruption but now you have the POTUS making twitter posts that move the market and someone is always putting hundreds of millions of dollars down at the right time every time.

>>64441860
Now we're moving the goalposts. If they fuck up, I'll be mad, but so far we've seen, good shit in Iran, Yemen, the Caribbean, recruiting, etc. You just seem salty.

>>64441878
>Congress being allowed to trade stocks is blatent corruption
yeah
>someone is always putting hundreds of millions of dollars down at the right time every time
that's how it's always been. it's just a little easier under trump.

>>64441868
Lol, you know I heard about people talking about this, so I looked it up and there's lots of crazy numbers thrown around, but when actual quants looked at it, the gains were pretty marginal. Good but nothing exceptional for any well run portfolio.

>>64441885
>that's how it's always been. it's just a little easier under trump.
No, you are massively downplaying both the scope and criminality of what someone close to POTUS is doing.

>>64441873
>nobody but russian shills talks about "geopolitics"
NTA but you are a it retarded anon, all of /k/ discussed geopol all the time until the ~2014 reddit influx to /pol/ that made jannies ban all politics on /k/.

>>64441882
I'm pissed at the corrutpion, the consumption taxes moving the tax burden onto the workers while the top gets cuts, the debt being pushed up and extra 1.5T per year, the fucking of allies, the sucking of Putins cock, the bailouts for Argentina...
There are lots of reasons to hate this admin, why do you like them?

>>64441895
It's the word "geopolitics" itself. It's a blatant tell for Russians and those influenced by Russian shills. Everyone else just calls it "politics".

>>64441900
Fair point, I'll keep an eye out for it. I always use geopol as it is a different beast to politics.

>>64441886
Just to add to this, the crazy numbers you see are always very small time frames, with very favorable and selective trade replication. Quantbase did a long term analysis and found that Pelosi's trades averaged a 9.03% annual return on investment, which is dead in line with the S&p 500, which goes 8-10% annual.
A 10 year analysis is 138% which is good, but nothing special. Yes, you coul do well by copying Pelosi's trades, (assuming you could without the lagtime of STOCK reporting) but you could do a lot better by replicating any number of other funds.

>>64441889
no, you're pretending that only the guy you don't like is corrupt. they're all corrupt and they've always been corrupt. you're either a false flagging nigger or a noguns faggot.

>>64441889
Yuro here.
Just to say that from here, the Trump administration looks like clowns on the presentation but it does get shit done without getting stuck in nation building bullshit... And frankly, that's all that matter.

>>64441914
holy shit I finally found someone defending the senate’s insider trading that isn’t also senator
good boy

>>64441895
>NTA but you are a it retarded anon, all of /k/ discussed geopol
Nah, he means the prevalence of using the actual term. It's almost ubiquitous in russia, while most people in US just call in politics, international politics, global politics or whatever. So you can use it as one of many such potential tells to sniff out a cocksucking 15 rub per post whore.

>>64441925
>good goy

>>64441895
>I'm pissed at the corrutpion,
Literally every admin. Worse under democrats because they are retarded politicians who get rich after they get elected, not before
>consumption taxes moving the tax burden onto the workers while the top gets cuts,
tariffs are necessary to protect key industries. Thus far most of the incidence appears to have been born by shrinking profit margins at large corporations. You're also ignoring key cuts and deductions that do help working people
>the debt being pushed up and extra 1.5T per year,
Deficit is actually on pace to shrink this year in both absolute and relative terms due to growth plus tariffs.
>the fucking of allies
They have been fucking us for years. We can't subsidizes the defense, tech, and pharma of the entire western world while they pursue stagnation and decline
>the sucking of Putins cock
Literally how? Because he doesn't treat the leader of the only country that could wipe the USA out like the ugly girl in middle school? Get a grip.
>the bailouts for Argentina
Get leverage over a key regional power is always a good thing. We've neglected our backyard in this hemisphere for too long.

I'm not going to defend everything this admin does, but compared to the alternative that is stuck in the same failed policy consensus that's been dragging us down since the end of the cold war, plus insane social policy. I appreciate he's shut the border, is going after academia, is actually engineering the pivot to aisa, and regained U.S. initiative in world affairs rather than constantly reacting.

>>64441917
No, it's the opposite. You're trying to downplay the corruption by claiming everyone does it, whereas there's a massive difference in scale and scope and the examples given of fraud the other way are generally not really true, see >>64441914
For example the most recent one I recall some Trump guy shorted BTC and made 200mil off one trade. For contrast, the Whitewater Scandal which caused the Republicans to open impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton and appoint Ken Starr as a special prosecutor involved the grand sum of... $5000.

>>64441925
>>64441933
>Defending
I'm sorry pointing that out facts is considered defending

>>64441942
I’ll help you out since you seem to mean well.
The point of insider trading is not the outsized gains (which paul pelosi consistently has, despite you misrepresenting it), it’s the lack of risk that these criminals are benefitting from.

>>64441649 (OP)
Maduro should try to get his hands on the Epstein Files and threaten to release them. Pedo Trump would back out immediately.

>>64441951
>dwhich paul pelosi consistently has, despite you misrepresenting it
How is a 9.03% annual gain an outsized one? I think anybody who wants to know more should read the quantbase article that goes into it. I'm not sure that much more discussion here is worthwhile, since you're obviously committed to pushing an agenda.

>>64441935
>They have been fucking us for years.
Da, they have been fucking us up the ass like roosters for many years fellow americanski. And waving their warm water ports in our facess like the cock and balls of a dvor to a rooster.
I, John Smithovitch from Texian oblast believe this to be the ass cum in ass manraping truth. Also we should remove sanctions from Russia, which is Our Friend.

>>64441942
>You're trying to downplay the corruption
no, they're ALL corrupt, I hate them all. saying THIS admin is bad because of the corruption is hypocritical because they are all like this, every last one.

>>64441962
I don’t know what dumbass article you keep referencing. Hopefully it’s not this one from 2022 I found.
I don’t need to take your word because I’m looking at a graph that has the pelosi strategy up 500% on SPY

So what’s your agenda?

>>64441969
If everyone who possibly disagrees with you is a Russian bot what's even the point of pretending to engage in good faith debate?
The simple fact is Europe and Canada have not been tending their gardens. Their relative power has declined massively and many of them became overly reliant on the U.S. The relationship became unbalanced over 30 years, it happens. It think the western democracies are natural friends, but somebody needs to come along and kick them in the ass a bit.

>>64441979
>It's a dumbass article from 2022
Ok why is it wrong?
>Because.... it just is ok!!??
'k

>>64442004
It matters because at THAT point it wasn’t beating spy.
Now in reality, where we live, in 2025, the portfolio is up 500% on spy

>>64442027
People forget the pump and dump she did during covid, dancing in the streets of Chinatown while shorting the entire economy.

>>64441752
No fool the word doesnt come from those filthy hand wipers. I am Latvian.
Indian Mr. Ranjeet Dakkar mindgames they played on you people have been entirely destructive.

>>64442037
Not exactly a 200iq play
>china says it's bad
>it spreads outside china
>by then china is already locked down and saying it could be upto 5% mortality
If you were paying any attention at all you could pick that, just like how everyone with 2 brain cells to rub together is ditching fiat for gold as they realize the only thing keeping the US out of a depression is AI investment and everyone is realizing it's a huge bubble.

>>64441962
Because whether or not a lot of money was made is irrelevant to whether or not insider trading occurred.

>>64441752
low IQ

>>64441649 (OP)
I doubt it.

>>64442027
>>64442037
>>64442058
It's impressive how skilfully the shills manipulate the discussion away from the verifiable, observable massive corruption of Trump to the alleged corruption of Pelosi despite the fact that it's not really observable in terms of real effects. It's all "trust me it's happening bro I have a graph, no I won't show you" like >>64442027

>>64441649 (OP)
>Does VZ have a chance to make it
Nice to see shit that would be in the hands of ziggers being utterly wasted differently. Where did they buy this junk from another BRIC like failed state?

>>64441727
Venzeula is commie and kremlinoid and needs spanking
He's still right about hegseth who can't make up his mind if he's a parody played by peter sellers of a drunk national guard major or a russian agent like most of teh rest of the fox newsroom.

>>64441649 (OP)
it will be another allied force but with extra 3 decades of technological progress worth of disparity between sides

>>64441730
If that's the case oit just shows even browns can tell the time once during the day using a stopped clock

>>64442073
Yeah I didn’t say anything about trump nice try
I’m just not letting you say easily verifiably incorrect dumb shit and now you’re mad
You can’t find one of the 30 versions of this graph or you just don’t want to? I found your article easily because that’s what you do if you have any interest in being intellectually honest in a discussion (which you don’t)
Go away now dummy

>>64441649 (OP)
Layered air defense network. I remember when the Rusisans were supposed to have that.

>>64441798
>Maybe Europe should stand up and out develop, research, and produce us.
WW1 and WW2 were fought in Europe, they just want to be left to make air liners, nice cars and advanced technology to display pornography in peace while drinking wine and eating cheese and pasta.

>>64442073
All that's interesting to me is that you seem to think you are on /pol/ take your boring partisan political scripted for you sperg out and fuck off. You retards always sound like boomers without health insurance no matter which tribe. Meanwhile you betrayed pic related fighting the soviets. Shame on you.

>>64442088
>Yeah I didn’t say anything about trump nice try
Yes, that's my point exactly. You manipulate the conversation away from the area you're sensitive on.
That's a funny graph bearing in mind your earlier statement that 2022 is a bad time to do it because she didn't do criminality before it, yet your own graph shows outsized growth BEFORE that date. Which would have been visible in the quantbase analysis. Which goes some way to proving my point that those crazy returns are by replicating trades selectively and retrospectively.
Your own graph lends credence to this notion and disproves your earlier statement that " at THAT point it wasn’t beating spy." you fucking disingenuous, moronic shill.

>>64442112
>All that's interesting to me is that you seem to think you are on /pol/ take your boring partisan political scripted for you sperg out and fuck off. You retards always sound like boomers without health insurance no matter which tribe. Meanwhile you betrayed pic related fighting the soviets. Shame on you.

>>64442122
>manipulate the conversation away from the area you’re sensitive and n
But enough about what you’re doing

Millenial Americans really failed America and the world hard. Generation fail. Generation tard.

>>64442141
>Millenial Americans really failed America
yeah, they're going to be worse than boomers.

While Ukraine was fighting the people that had consisently targeted and threatened the USA with nukes for 50 years and tried in every way to subvert their democracy and society. Millennial Americans clapped and cheered for BLM and MAGA with their mouths open and drooling watching youtube. Possibly the greatest generation of worthless spastics in history.

>>64442146
They are worse than boomers, boomers made great movies,cars, planes, music, stood against communist expansion and delivered America as the singtle greatest military, diplomatic, cultural and economic power on earth, Then milennials came along and turned it in a giant circuis tent populated by a never ending clown show where two groups throw cream pies in each others faces over men in frocks and dildo bump stocks interspersed with entitled and never ending whining, apparently forever.

Milennials are idiocracy.

>>64442149
Pretty much, yeah

>>64442141
>>64442146
>>64442167
So this is the next tactic, hmm?
Going back to the tired old generational hate bullshit that was tried to death on /pol/ nigh 25 years ago?

Oh no. That just means the A-10 will have to lob missiles instead of use its meme gun on shit.

>>64442191
>t. millenial
fuck off, old man.

>>64441649 (OP)
Not with Iglas lmao

>>64442149
i agree, if the younger generations weren't cucked and fucked up we'd see 50-100k us volunteers going to ukraine just for the hell of it, like there were thousands during the spanish civil war or helping chinks against japs and all that

It's funny how this motherfucker was just a year ago clammering how he was going to invade Guyana for the hell of it and is now begging for peace.

>>64442167
Really showing how dense you are when you fail to realize the same shit you are complaining about is what boomers did during their era. Read a book. Boomers are retarded greedy sacks of self entitlement. Afraid of dying into irrelevancy. Most of this nations problems come from their policies of the "golden age"

>>64441723
>aesthetic change
wat? trump changed the name in a very lame attempt to seem like a tough, strong leader. possibly to make people not think he is a flip-flopping dork

>>64442207
Nearly everyone in government is a boomer or Gen X. How retarded. You aren't a zoomer you are Gen alpha who is mad at their parents. Do you even have pubic hair.

>>64442306
>Nearly everyone in government is a boomer or Gen X
yeah, and the millennials are somehow worse.
>You aren't a zoomer
I am though

>>64441746
By this logic why wouldn't it also apply to other assassinations like Lincoln? Or President Garfield that only got to be in the job for 4 months?

>>64442330
No you aren't. The fact you think Millenials are in the government is proof of that.

>>64442344
>The fact you think Millenials are in the government is proof of that
they literally are though. Vance is a millennial.

>>64441727
Rednecks smell like shit kys

>>64442344
Millennials are over 30 now.

>>64442369
really?

>>64442247
>t. whining entitled clown

>>64442381
and have still produced nothing of note except utter burping and farinig and ranting shit on youtube

>>64442049
They made the mistake of considering Hindus and Muslims as equally valid. Learning curve thinking they are religions instead of political ideologies that hate them. They got it right on communists once though. Zoomers may yet come good if Milennians don't turn the USA into two tribes of tards driving dildo cars at each each other with Russia Today sponsorship logos.

>>64442247
Now anon these leftist retards won't be able to process actual truth nukes like how McCarthy actually found the "greatest generation" was packed to the gills of commie and Russia sympathizers, how 1950s and 1960s America was as close to going red as it ever was, how communist terrorism from the weather underground and many other leftist terror groups bombed and shot hundreds of Americans including the US congress itself, how Boomer hippies were all as bad as current day Antifa and how many of them are modern democrats, and how they were all linked to wackjob mass murderers like Jim Jones.