Thread 64461110

ISW has confirmed the claims of a cauldron in Porkroast

Their map more or less correlates with the claims made by pro-Russian mappers

Why doesn't Ukranian command just pull their guys out? Don't they know they're all gonna die?

It’s Joever

Its anudda Debaltsevo oy vey

Hurry up /k/opers, you have to come crawling out of the woodworks and cry for a janny to come delete the evidence.
Chop chop.

>>64461110 (OP)
The line is at Troyanda to Novopavlivka, even Rih is not held, really.

If I had a nickle for every time one side claimed to have the other trapped in a cauldron, with the "trapped" forces simply withdrawing in the end, I would have a lot of nickles. The only real cauldron so far has been Mariupol.

>>64461119
No we're going to expose your shit and laugh. Keeping it up.

>>64461117
> Why doesn't Ukranian command just pull their guys out?
Because they are more concerned with PR and avoiding bad PR that will happen when the city is captured soon.

Wasting AFU lives is seen as an acceptable cost by Zelensky if it delays the inevitable bad headlines for another few weeks.

> Don't they know they're all gonna die?
Yes

>>64461117
Because this is the fourth time they have gotten CAULDROONED. And every time Russia has claimed that there are at least 10k ukropiggies surrounded, yet not even once have they paraded the POW's around.

Discussions of weapons and military equipment?

>>64461110 (OP)
Another cauldron the Russian bear will deny to close as a good will of gesture? The Ukraine must surrender soon, before Putin expends all patience and mercy.

>>64461128
>captured soon
>soon
It has taken a year and a half.

Anyways as with zigger posts it makes much more sense if you switch Ukraine with Russia. Every accusation a confession and all that.
>Wasting Russian lives is seen as an acceptable cost by Putin if it delays the inevitable bad headlines for another few weeks

>>64461118
>The Southern 'pincer' is a distance that is shorter than my driveway
>The Northern one isn't much longer and is across a open field
>It has taken them months and thousands of lives to get to my mailbox and back

This is the 17th month of the battle of Pokrovsk (day 1 objective of the 3-day SMO)

>>64461155
> It has taken a year and a half.
Are you retarded? They only started pushing into the city itself a few months ago, for most of the year they halted outside the city while they rolled up the southern front and flanked the city from the east and north-east

>>64461137
Because they're not taking prisoners any more?

>>64461174
lmao you're a fucking clown. of course ziggers couldn't get to the city because they were slaughtered by the thousand on a daily basis. but any defense falls given enough time. here's to million more dead ziggers trying to capture another small town 50km from donetsk.

>>64461174
>for most of the year they halted outside the city while they rolled up the southern front and flanked the city from the east and north-east
Ah, so it only took them a single year

Or are you saying the russian military is so incompetent it takes them a year to move units into line for an attack

>>64461120
> he line is at Troyanda to Novopavlivka, even Rih is not held, really.
Russians have been geolocated around the railway line this week, far past Troyanda and Novopavlovka

>>64461190
Surely with a retort like that you have evidence to back up your claims?

>>64461174
You could only use that line of reasoning if I hadn’t have listened to ziggers cheering about the immesiate fall of pokrovsk… for the last year and a fucking half if not more

>>64461174
I recognise the name pokrovsk so that can't be true

>>64461187
> because they were slaughtered by the thousand on a daily basis.
complete fantasy

>>64461188
> Or are you saying the russian military is so incompetent it takes them a year to move units into line for an attack
It was tactically and strategically more advantageous to flank the city as the Russians did, which produced the current cauldron that is a catastrophe for the AFU, attacking head-on would have been stupid and would not allow the Russians to pick off AFU resupply and reinforcements like fish in barrel like they are doing right now.

>>64461204
Why did it take the mighty Russian army a year and a half to flank a small town?

>>64461194
> Surely with a retort like that you have evidence to back up your claims?
Yes idiot, even Deepstate has located them north of railway line

>>64461204
Kek, not only did you dodge all the other anons calling out yourbullshit, your cope didn't even fucking have anything to do with my reply lmao.
Step up your game or your handler is gonna dedovschina you mate

>>64461204
>>64461221
For comparison you could have held 3 battles of Stalingrad during the time it took to flank pokrovsk

>>64461110 (OP)
The mop up operation begins, well be eating good this week zigger bros

>>64461110 (OP)
Every time i see one of these i look at the distances and laugh, Rivine is smaller than my yard.

It's like 'yo niggas that's the third platoon you threw at the outhouse this week, i said it was out of TP and the latest Farmers Almanac is from three years ago you dumbasses!'

>>64461221
>Why did it take the mighty Russian army a year and a half to flank a small town?

1) It didnt you retard, it took less than a year to flank the town, before the year is over the entire town will fall
2) Its more of a medium or small sized city (+100k pop prewar) than a town
3) There is a 600-800 mile front with many other objectives, Pokrovsk is not their only priority, for most of the year they have been quickly rolling up the southern front and are about to cut the road to Gulaypole.
4) Unlike the AFU, the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables, it would much rather go slow to conserve lives of its soldiers.

>>64461117
Ukraine keeps fighting the Battle of Bakhmut because it keeps working, Russian losses are so much heavier than Ukie losses it's worth letting 20k men die if it means they kill 100k.

puccia doesn't have an exit plan, this war wouldn't end when they want it to, it will end when puccia is fully removed from ukraine.

>>64461238
That cope never gets olf kek

>>64461238
This. Plus, Ukraine has a much larger total population than Russia.

>>64461225
Your Ukrainian might be better than mine, I can't find the link to that picture on the deep state website, would you mind linking the original please?

>>64461237
>the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men
Lol
Lmao, even

>>64461237
>4) Unlike the AFU, the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables, it would much rather go slow to conserve lives of its soldiers.
Lol no

>>64461237
>Its more of a medium or small sized city
>100k
>5 miles wide


Do they live in underground hives like ants? It's smaller than Jackman Maine (under 800 people) and from the map has less house lots. Did everyone have a hundred people living in barracks in their basements?

>>64461252
>Lol
Lmao, even

Name another instance in the entire war in which Russia let thousands of men get surrounded on 3 or 4 sides as the AFau let happen in Debaltsevo, Mairupol, Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Kursk and now Porkroast.

>>64461243
>body exchanges reflect losses

>>64461243
>6,000 Ukrainian dead
>only 78 Russians
I’m calling major bullshit. Who posted these casualties

>>64461237
>the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables, it would much rather go slow to conserve lives of its soldiers
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>64461237
Ah man you ziggies are funny.
>it was a year not a year and a half
Lmao
>acshually it’s a small city not town
Lmao
>there were other objectives
So the Russian army is so weak it can only attack in one place at a time?
>The Russian military prioritizes the lives of it’s men
This is true actually, you just have to realize “men” means chechens

>>64461237
>the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables, it would much rather go slow to conserve lives of its soldiers.
Oh, brother...

>>64461254
> It's smaller than Jackman Maine (under 800 people) and from the map has less house lots.
Its the ex-SU, most people live in large commie

>>64461259
It's body exchange numbers, Ukies want to recover their dead and bury them with honors, Russia either cubes them or builds carparks over them.

>>64461110 (OP)
>confirmed a cauldron
>picture shows no cualdron
What did the vatnigger mean by this?

>>64461117
>>64461128
Samefag less obviously, ziggie.

>>64461174
You announced the imminent capture of Pokrovsk back in January, ziggie. /k/ remembers.

>>64461258
A real snowman.

how many minutes until this duplicate shill thread gets deleted and the shills have to reset their ips again

>>64461262
>>64461260
>>64461253

see >>64461257

Hey fellas, didn't read past OP and don't really care, but I would like to say that none of you own guns and none of you are American. I will be closing the thread so I can jack off to Facebook photos of women I went to college with. Good day to you all.

>>64461270
No.

>>64461110 (OP)
Why do they fall for it every single time?

>>64461121
Bunny ears right up north from Pokrovsk. We had a mass surrender there just last week, entire groups of ziggers marching down the roads with their hands up and all. And it's sent the zigger shills into a full-blown meltdown.

fuck. i time traveled back to 2024 again.

>>64461231
mopping up op is like 7 months and 40,000 casualties for russian standards

Oh boy is this gonna be like that bunny ears shit a few months ago where they claim they’ve won the war

>>64461266
>back in January
They've been harping about it since 2023 my man

>4) Unlike the AFU, the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables, it would much rather go slow to conserve lives of its soldiers.
lmao

>>64461270
The first and second gestures of goodwill left quite a few Russians surrounded at 4 sides

>>64461276
>monke says advance
>brass say advance
>chechens say advance
>ziggers die

>>64461243
Yes, most russian corpses are left to rot in the fields, and Russia does not want them back becuase then they cannot be declared AWOL and their death benefits have to actually be paid out. It is known.

>>64461293
Sitting in a strategically useless cauldron where you can get shelled from all sides and are dependent on a single supply line is the Ukrainian specialty, is it not?

>>64461263
>most people live in large commie
So each lot has a house with a party official and they shove everyone else inside the guy? Each one has a hundred dudes inside him? No wonder Russia wants the place back so much.

>>64461273
t. Brownoid noguns hands typed this post.

Denounce vishnu, dalit.

>>64461273
Ngl that’s pretty based.

>>64461298
>muh cauldron
Agian, may we see it?

Because the only actual cauldron we've had in ~3 years now is the ziggers that got composted in the bunny ears.

>>64461237
>it took less than a year to flank the town
They've been at it since summer last year.
>Its more of a medium or small sized city (+100k pop prewar) than a town
2022 census says 60k people.
>for most of the year they have been quickly rolling up the southern front
They have been advancing slower than a literal snail's pace. They are still a short bike ride away from Avdiivka.
>Unlike the AFU, the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables
Literal projection. See: bike/golf cart/electric scooter assaults (webm related).
You've been wrong or lying about every single point. Nigger.

>>64461299
i meant to type commieblock as in massive apartment complex with many hundreds of people per building, i.e. less space is needed for individual houses

>>64461298
>I’ll ignore the Russians surrounded in the bunny ears

>>64461110 (OP)
>it's another episode of low information posters
NAFO is more interested in chestbeating about dumb ziggers than discussing facts while Ukrainians fight to survive. I could understand why you'd believe propaganda if you're a malding zigger, but Westerners ought to have higher standards than this. Yes, Pokrovsk has been surrounded and its last supply route is overwatched by Russian FPVs.

>>64461237
>Unlike the AFU, the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables, it would much rather go slow to conserve lives of its soldiers.

>>64461311
>NAFO
Thanks for reminding us yet agian that a bunch of reddittards posting doge memes has mindbroken you subhumans to this insane degree.

>>64461309
lol, lmao even. Completely made up by Deepstate with no geolocations of xoxyls present there even after all this time since the claim

>>64461308
My version is better.

Denounce Ronald Reagan.

>>64461311
>NAFO
You bunkertroons can't help yourselves, can you?

>>64461311
>NAFO
Are the cartoon dogs in this thread with us right now?

>>64461318
>we actually were never there we only bragged for a week the war was one because of it

>>64461318
>Completely made up by Deepstate
LMAO, so we've reached the stage of trying to memoryhole the mass surrender of the ziggers up there entirely, I see.

>>64461237
we are getting to the point where these zig dogs will straight up lies with no shame now

>>64461318
>i-it didn't happen!
Yes, also Kyiv was a feint and Kherson was a gesture of goodwill

>>64461335
Russians have lied without shame for the last 1000 years lad.
It’s their entire mo

>>64461307
> They have been advancing slower than a literal snail's pace. They are still a short bike ride away from Avdiivka.
lol, they pushed something like 83 kilometers west from Kurakhove to Uspenivka in Zaporizhia, not much room left for them to keep going west until they reach the Dneipet

>>64461335
"getting to the point"? They've been doing it before the war even started. It's literally a cultural thing in puccia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vranyo

>>64461110 (OP)
Not my heckin Pokrovsk! Kiev will fall in two weeks if this keeps up!

>>64461338
>>64461344
reminded me about MH17
we know they are lying, they know they are lying. yet they continue to lie

>>64461322
>>64461320
You are the bunkertroon cartoon dogs, anon. Show some respect for the Ukrainians fighting instead of laughing at their misfortune and pretending its not happening so you can get upvotes for mocking ziggers.

>>64461347
>cartoon dog make me mad
Obviously

>>64461237
>2) Its more of a medium or small sized city (+100k pop prewar) than a town
uhuh

>epic op bagration tier victory
>zoom out
>meatgrinder for 50k prewar pop city ruins 50km from donetsk

>>64461341
>lol, they pushed something like 83 kilometers west from Kurakhove to Uspenivka in Zaporizhia,
So they failed to advance notably there since, like, 2023. An "advance" behind their own frontline LMAO.

>>64461347
>You are the bunkertroon cartoon dogs, anon.
Nah. Your obsession is making you hallucinate. Seek professional help.

>>64461347
>You are the bunkertroon cartoon dogs, anon
What a weak and nonsensical retort

what the fuck was that cunt talking about? Rusnigs have been screaming about Pokrovsk ever since the day they got their asses out of Avdiivka

>>64461350
>riposte about emotions and verbal duel-slop in response to colors on a map
/k/ is for weapons and war. Your emotional flaws are not a weapon.

>>64461347
You know what, you’re right. I’ll show my respect by donating 1k€ to the Ukrainian war effort right now

>>64461370
>mad over a cartoon dog still
No one ever talks about that here except vatniks who get butthurt over it

>>64461360
> So they failed to advance notably there
In what universe is advancing 83 kilometers “failing to advance”, if 83 km is a failure then how many km is a success?

>>64461289
That never happened, also those were Ukrainians; no, wait, they were POWs being executed by the Ukrainians (SMOcrime), but also just shooting your injured soldiers proves Russia is strong, unlike a weak wectoid who'd try to save his wounded comrade, so it's actually a good thing. Also, in America they do this to black people.

Did I cover all the common vatnik copes?

>>64461387
How many years to reach that

>>64461387
"Advancing" 83 kilometres laterally to the frontline is a cope "advance", ziggie.

>this is totally fine, nothing wrong here

kek

>>64461390
You forgot to talk about LGBT rainbow flags in the west while saying that gay rape culture in russia is actually based and trad

>>64461204
>they’ve entered the city a few months ago
>umm a-actually they flanked around the city
Russians lie as they breathe.

>>64461399
No one said it is fine.

>>64461237
>Unlike the AFU, the Russian military actually prioritizes the lives of its men and does not care about arbitrary timetables, it would much rather go slow to conserve lives of its soldiers.

>>64461393
> How many years to reach that
not even 1 year, Kurakhove fell in December 2024

>>64461395
>I have no rebuttal so I will simply call the large advance a “cope advance”

Are you even aware that the RUAF is days away from physically cutting the road to Gulaypole, and that Gulaypole is the last big complex holding the southern frontline together?

>>64461399
>2-3 companies (probably, that's what their very honest commanding officer reported) of our inflitrators that are cut off from supply and comms may or may not be alive in that area, this means we've totally cut hohols off and are about to take the city (pop 60k before the war)
>muh drones
Ukies have those too in case you didn't know

>>64461276
The ziggers?
They’re just very gullible i guess.
Heuristic learning is a mystery to them.

itt: unemployed

>>64461415
mein nigger, that's slower than a goddamn snail
we know you're lying
you know you're lying
have some decency and stop doing so

>>64461374
Aaand done, every little bit helps
>>64461415
>the RUAF is days away
Western days or SMO days?

>>64461420
> Ukies have those too in case you didn't know
Ukrainian drones are vastly inferior in both quantity and quality to Russian drones, a natural result of UA drone production happening in dispersed DIT home workshops and Russian drones production happing in large factories using AI and robotics

>>64461425
>College.jpg

>>64461158
Your driveway is 15 blocks long?

>>64461415
>X is the last big complex holding the southern frontline together
You niggers say this about every single town that puccia captures after losing comical amounts of men and materiel for over a year

>>64461423
> we know you're lying
About what? What I wrote is indisputable fact

>>64461110 (OP)
>map includes claimed russian control
>this correlates with the russian claims of control
deep thinking deserving of a thread

>>64461428
>using AI and robotics

>>64461428
wow that's a new cope. be sure to tell it to russian Z bloggers because they seem to believe completely opposite.

>>64461425
>kupiansk
don't look at maps from 2022 cumrad

>>64461428
>sources: rt, incel smegma, gayrassimov

>>64461428
So Russians have:
More and better drones
More and better soldiers
More and better tanks
More and better planes
More and better armored vehicles
More and better missiles
More and better ships
More and better *everything*
And yet we're closing in on the 4th year of the war with no end in sight.
Make it make sense

>>64461427
That’s Pokrovsk idiot, I’m talking about the 83 kilometer march west from Kurakhove to the Uspenivna/Poltavka area outside Gulaypole in less than a year. That’s like 40 or 50 miles to the south of Pokrovsk if not more.

>>64461399
No one is saying the Ukies aren't losing the town after 1 year, 3 months, 1 week and 5 days we are simply saying that isn't an impressive military victory.

>>64461415
>shifting troops laterally along your existing frontline is an "advance"
Cope harder.

>the last big complex holding the southern frontline together
Yes, just like how Bakhmut was the last thing holding together the entire front. And Avdiivka. And half a hundred other places. Your zigger copium is getting stale, pidor.

>>64461449
More donkeys
More dirt bikes
More cubes
More shovels
More internet trolls
Infinite 2 weeks

>>64461317
>>64461320
>>64461322
Defending that annoying group of dysgenic libshit geriatrics on here very easily outs you as a post-2022 tourist.

>>64461415
>Gulaypole is the last big complex holding the southern frontline together
You guys have been saying that about every single town you've taken for years now. No, losing a town of a few thousand people, while regrettable for the Ukrainians, isn't the last domino that needs to fall before Putin marches triumphantly into Kyiv, renames it to Marxograd, and announces the restoration of the USSR. What will actually happen is the Russians are going to spend another year and ten thousand or more men to take the next town over. At this rate we can expect Kyiv to fall sometime in the 2300s after around 2 billion Russian casualties. That's okay though, I heard Russia is importing a lot of Indians and Africans to replace them; a real savior of the white race, that Putin guy.

>>64461450
It took them a year to reach the city

>>64461449
>More and better drones
fact check: true
>More and better soldiers
fact check: true
>More and better tanks
fact check: true
>More and better planes
fact check: true
>More and better armored vehicles
fact check: true
>More and better missiles
fact check: true
>More and better ships
fact check: true
>More and better *everything*
fact check: true
>And yet we're closing in on the 4th year of the war with no end in sight.
fact check: false, the AFU is incredibly weak compared to previous years, thats why this is the first major year of the war that the AFU didnt carry out any major offensive, because they lack the men and they are needed to desperately plug increasing gaps, this will only accelerate

>Make it make sense
I did, you’re welcome

>>64461450
Marching west ALONG THE EXISTING EAST-WEST FRONTLINE is not an advance, ziggie.

>>64461458
>Defending
Making fun of you being mindbroken by doge memes is not "defending" anything, retarded pidor.

>>64461458
No one is defending them you drooling retard.

>>64461464
>advancing into enemy territory and kicking them out of fortified positions and taking over those positions yourself doesnt count as real advances
what level of cope is this?

>>64461458
seething about the stupid meme dogs instantly marks you as a brown twitter tourist

>>64461110 (OP)
>IM CAAAULLLDDRONING
posting in the year of our lord 2025

TWO MORE WEEKS and the donkes will have the cauldron in sight

Trust the plan,
Z

>>64461463
>this is the first major year of the war that the AFU didnt carry out any major offensive
Watching them fail horribly in toretsk was fun

>>64461463
>two more weeks! for real this time!

>>64461458
>Defending
There are no twitter dogs here. No one here gives a shit about le twitter dogs but vatniks, who bring them up incessantly and get rightfully mocked for it. I don't even have a twitter account.

>>64461463
>three_beers.gif

>>64461463
>the AFU is incredibly weak compared to previous years
Is that why Russia took less ground this year than any year of the conflict before it? Also, how does Russia keep suffering anywhere between 5-14 casualties for every ukrainian one despite having all these advantages?

>>64461463
When the burgers had a vastly superior army in all regards, it took them a month and a bit to stomp their opposition
Why has the Russo-Ukrainian war taken as long as the Great Patriotic War for the Russians?

>>64461225
Still waiting on that link anon, surely you didn't post a faked image as proofs did you?
pic unrelated

>>64461471
>advancing into enemy territory
They didn't. That's the point, you illiterate retard. Moving laterally along the frontline means you're not advancing into enemy territory, you're just moving from one poart of your rear areas to another. Moving along a line does not push the line forward. This is basic fucking map reading you're failing at now.

>and kicking them out of fortified positions and taking over those positions yourself
May we see it?

>>64461485
May we see this "failure"? Or is it yet another zigger propaganda fever dream just like your 83km "advance" and the mythical cauldroon?

>>64461515
Did ukraine recapture toretsk yet? No? Alright

>>64461341
>Kurakhove to Uspenivka
>83km
We are on the Internet, anon

>>64461520
Again, may we see this supposed ukrainian offensive to Toretsk? I mean, outside of your zigger-brained fever dreams? No? Alright.

>>64461543
I see the shill brigade got some new hires, welcome.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/03/07/ukrainian-forces-counterattack-near-pokrovsk-and-toretsk/

>>64461552
Ah, so you meant the limited counterattacks that resulted in thousands of ziggers getting composted one-sidedly and the entire zigger "advance" being thrown off-balance and stalled for months. Wow, what a "failure" LMAO.

>>64461508
>They didn't. That's the point, you illiterate retard. Moving laterally along the frontline means you're not advancing into enemy territory, you're just moving from one poart of your rear areas to another. Moving along a line does not push the line forward. This is basic fucking map reading you're failing at now.
All of this territory including fortified towns encircled in blue was captured by Russia from the AFU just in 2025. Did you just start paying attention to the war a month ago?

This is not "moving troops along a frontline" its moving into an area, killing all the AFU there, establishing control and then moving on to the next area. Almost the entire Poltavka-Uspenivka line has already fallen, Gulaypole is going to be another yet cauldron soon (after Debalsevo, Mairupol, Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Kursk and Porkroast cauldrons)

>>64461422
Wdym, the vatniks are getting paid for this

I noticed lately the agressive russian rhetoric in this board.
Out of curiosity I checked other popular websites. Out of the 8 i looked at, this seem to happen everywhere
Its not organic, its happening internet-wide. Something cracked open a hornet nest of this guys
I find this interconnected behavior of them fascinating. And they are screaming about NAFO at 5 out of the 8 places. Its coordinated, im sure of it
The war is secondary of interest for me, im mainly studying how they work
Apologies for bad english