Thread 64469073

What happened to the war in Ukraine? Back in Bakhmut we could hear about a street changing hands but this year neither side shares information about what they control in battles like Pokrovsk.

If you limit yourself to /k/ (or the incoherent noise of /pol/) they you'll know nothing, this board probably is the worst place to track the war after mid 2024.

>>64469073 (OP)
That’s because Prigozhin was screaming at Shoigu and Gerimosov the whole time.

>>64469073 (OP)
nothing exceptionally big has happened in a long time. the ukes dont have the manpower or equipment to do anything but cede ground and inflict casualties steadily. the russians don't have the willpower or equipment to do anything major, so it got boring. you have to actually look for the war to find info on it now, and everyones finally clamping down more and more on OPSEC to mask that there is an exceptional brittleness in the state of the war currently, and it's difficult to determine what, or where may snap first.

Russians steadily winning, fighting for every square inch

>>64469130
>Russians steadily winning
lol, lmao

It’s a stalemate of dead hohols and dead ziggers

>>64469073 (OP)
It's moving at a snail's pace but ultimately Ukraine cannot win the war without aerial supremacy. they never stood a chance to establish that given they had maybe 30 operational aircraft. so their only hope is to kill enough Russians they stop (you can't kill that many Russians, they're valueless and they know it)

Russia is getting pushed out of all the areas where they had made gains. Ukraine had major victories this week.

World leaders see the meme campaign against Vance and are now toeing the line and giving Zelensky the respect and support he deserved.

>>64469156
Neither side has air supremacy, they're using whatever standoff munition they have, if they have any.

>>64469171
yeah but Ukraine needs it to stop Russia and they don't have it where as Russia has no problem operating under mass casualty incidents

priggys daughter

>>64469186
Except for the whole "Ukraine will be conquered by the third quarter of the next century" thing.

>>64469130
>burning your economy
>throwing millions of lives away for marginal gains
>domestic infrastructure failing
>enemies politically united thanks to your aggression
These are death signs for an attacking nation. It is quite clear that russia is losing.

>>64469186
>Russia's objectives: Force Ukraine to concede all lost territory (and then some), dismantle its military, agree to not sign any defense treaties with western states, install a pro-russian government, and accept puppet state status until they come back for another go in 20 years
>Ukraine's obective: survive, ideally until russia leaves or collapses, but just until they can be forced to the bargaining table and freeze the conflict along current lines (and fund/supply an insurgency while continuing "totally not us" operations against russian refinieries and military factories) would do so Ukraine can join either the EU, NATO, both, or some other defense pact with Poland, the Baltics, and Finland
I know which outcome I'm betting on, and it doesn't involve buying rubles.

>>64469238
Sure, but don't forget the other side is in disarray right now.
This will hurt the feefees of a lot of faggots, but having the POTUS supporting russia does matters, there's some areas where Europe is restricted to France (air launched PGM, some missiles). Things that were a given in 2023-2024, as the APKWS, are being diverted.

>>64469273
>Things that were a given in 2023-2024, as the APKWS, are being diverted.
They can use the Thales version (FZ275 LGR). It's not a like-for-like replacement in capability (no prox fuze yet, I think they're still R&D-ing it), but it exists as fallback option.

>>64469282
Sure, but timing is a thing you know, if the US is gonna divert and reallocate all their APKWS to the Middle East then should do it with time and not simply wait for the last moment 20,000 guided missiles for air defense.

>>64469199
jewish women are the devils temptation

>>64469199
>slav men of any kind look like shrek
>slav women can look like this 90% of the time
What causes this?

>>64469273
>having the POTUS supporting russia does matters
>don't forget the other side is in disarray
Sorry to have to tell you this, vatnigger-kun, but the USA is not going to save you

>>64469073 (OP)
Because at this point the entire front-line has turned into a goddamn Battlefield or COD match of squads of Ukrainians and Russians just running around ruined towns and cities killing each other because neither side has the means to deploy anything more than platoon level.

When the other side dies they either take the location or send the next wave.

>>64469304
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8ZjUgQ8zNWc?feature=share

>>64469156
Mass artillery and drones would be enough but poorope didn't use the 3 years of war to build dirty industry for it apart from very specialised drones for investors and Bulgarian shells

>>64469307
SHIP THE FUCKING TOMAHAWKS OR SHUT THE FUCK UP MAGA SUBHUMAN
>vatnigger
Your people, the red caps, are undistinguished from vatniggers.

>>64469337
zigger false flagger
the US won't save you

>>64469347
>jak meme
Go back to your shithole subhuman

>>64469307
the US president will save Russia and ruin the USA because you morons voted for this

>>64469353
>projecting
>>64469359
nice fanfic, zigger. nothing can save russia now.

>>64469273
>POTUS supporting russia
Is that what the sanctions on the countries buying Russian oil was for? Weird cope.

Russia is losing very badly. They are a tiny vestige of their former empire that is filled with Muslims. The US must AT ONCE open up its inventory of tomahawks or risk further humiliation in the information space.

>>64469098
Kek, found the angry zigger.

>>64469130
>Russians steadily bleeding to death
FTFY

>>64469073 (OP)
It's a settled in war, daily updates are a first few years thing look at Iraq.

>>64469390
Compared with Biden, yes, he's the best asset of Russia right now.
>all current weapons/assistance for Ukraine were approved during Biden's term
>all his contribution are diverting or delaying as much as possible the munition already committed long ago
>his ""NEGOTIATIONS"" includes delaying weapons sales to European countries that will be sent to Ukraine or used replacement for things to be sent there
>Blames Ukraine for killing armed enemies, for attacking infrastructure and yet gives a shit for the manhunt of random civilians
>No mention to the thousands of minors kidnapped by russia during 2022.
>no mention to obvious manhunt against civilians using cruise missiles
>Using the Joint Intel of NATO for blackmailling
>useless statements, shitfest instead of facts and CERTAINTY
I guess that having 2 oceans and trillion of dollars in WMD makes easy to be a subhuman fat bag.

The retard did a great job at burning the former status quo, but the timing only caused damage to real people

>>64469199
7.3/10

>>64469156
>It's moving at a snail's pace but ultimately Russia cannot win the war.
FTFY

>you can't kill that many Russians
You sure can. Not that it's necessary, mind you, because Russia is collapsing economically well before that.

>>64469329
Samefag less obviously, subhuman.

Also
>*laughs in Rheinmetall*

>>64469273
>but don't forget the other side is in disarray right now
May we see it? And no, Trump can't save Russia.

>>64469438
>May we see it? And no, Trump can't save Russia.
May I see the shipments after 2028 or the things he diverted? ah yes, I can't because they don't exist.

>>64469073 (OP)
Because the tactics have changed such that "control" becomes a very nebulous term. Kind of like what this guy said >>64469311

People like to accuse Russia of using "meat assaults", which is not entirely false, but also not entirely true. During Bakhmut Prigo was actually sending human waves, but those were literal ex-convicts for the most part. Now Russia relies on infiltration tactics. They send a few guys to the grey zone, they sneak around, then hunker down in some place they won't get droned. Repeat until you have a few hundred guys in an area, then move in to occupy the land. Repeat. This is a painfully slow and costly process, but it's the best counter Russia has available to Ukrainian drone spam.

This leads to the concept of "controlling" land becoming a bit outdated. If Russia sends 30 guys into a forest, and the guys are all bunkered down in ditches, but Ukraine does the same, who controls the land? It's hard to say. And you can't trust either side, because they both have political incentive to lie or exaggerate what areas they control. And a lot of the time they don't even know for sure.

It's very interesting to see warfare fall into the trend of post-modernity

>>64469098
>>64469409
>2024
No, he's absolutely correct. The janny crackdown during Kursk marked the end of every HIMARS hit getting its own thread. If you haven't observed the change in what gets posted and how often, then you're either retarded or new.