Thread 64482198

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I have the itch to buy more guns. Someone needs to shut off the propaganda I don't want to buy another gun.

why aren't there any DA/SA micro compact guns i want a DA/SA to carry but i don't want to give up the size to magazine capacity ratio of guns like the p365

>>64482198 (OP)
Anyone know what exactly a FedEx Hub is? I am going to send a gun to Ruger to fix the sights and they are going to send me a label, but they say I have to take it to a FedEx Hub. I assume that I can't just drop it off at any FedEx location if they are going to specify FedEx Hub, but I don't know. . .

>>64482225
$149 with the $30 Taurus rebate.

Come home white man

>>64482233
wow that's fucking retarded. Thanks for washing me of my sinful lust to purchase more things I don't need.

>>64482233
There is literally zero reason to get a hipoint when these exist.

>>64482243
Yeah, I want to like Hi point, but they have no reason to exist any more. That's probably why they are making ARs now.

>>64482228
DA/SA triggers require internal parts that make slim double stack mags hard. The 3914 is your best bet

>>64482251
Taurus has really cleaned up in recent years I hear even their revolvers rarely have issues.

>>64482198 (OP)
just ordered rosewood grips from hogue for my cz 75b.
in other news i'm pondering spending the like thousand dollar on a cz scorpion to eventually outfit it for home defense (suppressor + subsons)

How much defensive ammo do you stockpile? Do you only keep enough to fill your mags or do you practice with it regularly?

>>64482315
I keep no less than 250 defensive/hot rounds on my ammo shelf, and my carry gun is always loaded with them, but I very rarely shoot the stuff. Doesn't feel different enough to warrant shooting it.

>>64482261
I've been thinking about their revolvers, but something about them looks cheap and shitty. All of their stuff just has this off brand look to it I just can't ignore. Aesthetically even the rock island cerakoted poverty pistol with its error message hammer spur geometry looks better.
I feel like I should either go super cheap like pic related or go with something expensive. Taurus feels like the worst of both worlds. Not the cheapest but still cheap looking.

Also, they've been shilling 32 revolvers so hard lately I got to wonder who's behind it.

>went to indoor range after work to try a bodyguard 2.0 rental
>feels great for how small it is I'm in love
>3 rounds in get a failure to extract
>clear it and it does it again 4 rounds in
>ended up getting 10 failures to extract out of a box of 50rds
>leave sad and dissapointed

>>64482343
shi dint happen bruh you're just that dude who has a hateboner for s&w

>>64482353
>five star detective dipshit is on the case of the anonymous nobody guy lying on the internet
thanks pal

>>64482315
I used to go with the "test it until you have enough for your carry mags +1" plan, but I'm trying to transition to having more. I want to live in magical old school Paul Harrell land where you can buy cheap Remington hollow points at the store. I always found it funny when he'd complain about "hyper" ammo being overpriced, when that's literally all we have here.
I did buy a case of pic related for my suppressed nightstand gun.

>>64482353
No it did happen unfortunately

>>64482355
>five star detective dipshit
kek

>>64482353
Nigga s&w is really fucky lately you don't even need to make shit up at this point.

>>64482353
>>64482355
When fn anon went to the range with me last week his bodyguard 2.0 had light strikes, he even posted about it. I had one when I shot it.
He didn't seem to hate smith. I'm not thrilled with them, but I'd still consider them for certain models.

>>64482232
A FedEx hub is kind of like their regional headquarters near major airports where they sort all their packages and prep them for air freight. All the packages you drop off at those FedEx Office retail locations get sent to the nearest hub for sorting. The wagies at the retail location with probably tell you that they can only ship firearms if you're an FFL, which is why Ruger is telling you to go to the hub.

t. work for FedEx

>>64482315
Defensive ammo? Just enough to keep my carry guns fully loaded. Random bullshit ammo? At least 1k lying around at any given point (for each caliber).

the only defensive ammo i test is my buffalo bore short barrel lower recoil/flash 357 magnum. i usually put 1 or 2 of those rounds in my model 60 (as the last shots to be fired after .38 +ps) so i just try to keep myself familiar with how it feels to shoot even non-full power magnums out of a snubbie

>>64482315
I handload most of my ammo, including my carry ammo. I make 100 rounds of defensive stuff and then load the gun plus a reload. I go to the range about once a month and shoot up my carry ammo and the reload along with my FMJ and replace the carry ammo after cleaning the gun. My carry revolvers last 10 months doing this and my LCP Max naturally lasts half that. I can always make more if needed, but a rarely make more before I load up the last set. Most of my stockpiled ammo is just range shit so I can go shoot whenever I want. I don't really see ever needing more than what the gun carries as far as defensive ammo goes. It's not like you will ever have the time to run away, find your stash, load up your mags, and then get back into fighting off the home invader or whatever. XD

>>64482343
I rented a Bidyguard 2 as well. Only I got light primer strikes every fucking mag. Total waste of money renting it, but I'm glad I didn't buy one. I'll stick to my LCP Max thank you very much.

>>64482406
Buffalo bore ammo exceeds SAAMI spec so I'm afraid to shoot that stuff.

>>64482417
After my shit experience today with the 2.0 I'm looking at the lcp max I'm just kinda pissed they don't have one available for rental I might call some other ranges to see if they have one.

>>64482315
I buy it in 500 round bulk packs, test a hundred or two rounds through the carry gun, save the rest but regularly shoot a mag or so to confirm optic zero or whatnot.

>>64482419
You should be, living in fear is a survival trait. The more you tremble and cower, the longer you will live.

>>64482337
The RIA colt detective is absolutely a lot cheaper and you’ll definitely see and feel it when you handle one. Still, that price point is quite enticing.

Are the new colt revolvers garbage or gtg?

>>64482419
their really hot stuff sure. but their lower flash and recoil rounds are good

>>64482406
>158gr projectile flying 1000+ FPS out of a 2 inch snubby
Buffalo Bore 38 special +P is pretty much just low end 357 magnum

>>64482492
true. but at the end of the day all the defensive ammo is $40 for 20 rounds anyway so might as well get the legit 357s with the extra bit of power

Bruh this stuff is diabolical

>>64482428
Be warned that the LCP Max does kick harder and flip more and it also has a crappy stock trigger which has aftermarket upgrades available, but everything else is better than the Bodyguard 2. Just get the Stainless or the new Nitrided slide models as the Base slide finish sucks.

>>64482232
I dropped off my Walther at a bassic bitch Fed-Ex store. It's weird that Ruger would be different.

What daily carry holsters does everyone use? Are there any particular brands you find shitty and uncomfortable?

>>64482461
Smith & Wesson has a better trigger.

>>64482449
I didn't even want one but I got sucked in by the free gun (see the revolver general for details). Now I want one that works, goddamit! But I should just forget about it and carry my lcp2. Speaking of which
>>64482428
>>64482417
Here's my question about the lcp max. Has anyone tried it with the Hogue grip? I have the single stack and the grip is perfect. It makes it much easier to shoot and only makes it as thick as the holster it comes with. The difference is 4 or 5 rounds.
They do make a sleeve for the max, but it's got to either be thinner or make the gun much thicker overall.
I'd like to try it, but as I already own the lcp2 and if I want to upgrade I can go to 9mm, I haven't bothered.
>>64482511
>all the defensive ammo
Not all, but it's hard to find. I addressed this already ITT >>64482362
>>64482530
>Kick more
The sleeve mostly mitigates this, but that's the single stack and this is what I want to know like I said above.
>Trigger bad
I'm used to it and being unfamiliar with the bg2, I shot much worse with it, but that's probably just me, and again I've never shot the max, just the single stack.

>>64482279
>thousand dollar on a cz scorpion
Why are PCCs so expensive? I feel like something like that should be in the $500 range.

>>64482428
both of them suck, get a g42

How well does a J frame work for pocket carry compared to the latest crop of wonder 380's?

>>64482243
Yeah as someone who owns and enjoys his 10mm hi point the taurus gx4 is just so much better. There is a reason I have aftermarket grips on my hi point, and it's because the factory ones had a gap between them and the frame that pinched the skin between my thumb and pointer finger. The gx4 has better grip ergos with the stipling than almost every other microcompact on the market. Really nice trigger too.

>>64482279
My buddies stribog is hilariously reliable, like when we get shitty turkish rounds that have the wrong size case so they wont feed or have primers seated too deep to be fired in any other gun the bog eats it all. Meanwhile my other buddies scorpion is a jammomatic. The bog takes scorp mags if that matters to you.

>>64482198 (OP)
What happened to the guy daily cc-ing a 1903?

>>64482610
Short answer is not that well unless your hands are weird and you naturally shoot revolvers well, and even then 10+1 rounds of 380 beats 5 rounds of 38 special especially in a smaller package that weighs down your pockets a full 1/2lb less

Long answer is the developements in holster technology make pocket draws remarkably fast and the QVO holster can be tossed in a bag full of shit or kept in a pocket full of keys and you'd never have to worry about the trigger since it's covered with kydex with less gap than any other holster I've seen. Check out this video which, in arguing for the revolver, kind of gives you every reason against getting one instead. https://youtu.be/eFeMVzYDHwc?si=zj37gMiWVQlDVDy2

>>64482670
Got aids and some sort of weird blood infection and died. Told him to stop having gay sex orgies after he got HIV but he said it was his “life style”.

>>64482670
This just reminded me of a boomer on an old forum many years ago that carried a p08 luger with a shortened barrel and grip

The reliability of pocket 380s is iffy compared to a j frame

>>64482673
You're comparing an all steel model 36 instead of something more commonly used like a 442 airweight.

>>64482697
Nice Glock M&P

>>64482670
He grew up and got a real job.

>>64482736
That's Glock & Wesson, sir.

>>64482694
Me and the other Detroit anon just shot his model 36 and it had 2 failures in 10? 15? Rounds. My BG 2.0 with known light strike issues had 2 light strikes with 6-7 mags so 70-80 rounds. The reliability of revolvers is greatly exaggerated by revolver users.

>>64482704
I was under the impression that airweights were no go because of their tendacy to crack frames. But sure, the airweight is only 3oz heavier instead of 8oz, all that weight savings and the only downside is it breaks after 1-2k rounds. What a great trade off!

The only reason to use a J frame to pocket carry is if you just shoot revolvers wayyyy better than semis, OR if you're dead broke and can't afford to spend an extra $80 on a BG 2.0 and another $60-80 on a holster.

>>64482761
>I was under the impression that airweights were no go because of their tendacy to crack frames
Only true for older ones like the model 38 etc. not really a problem with any of them produced in the last decade or so.

What striker micri/subcompact has the smoothest trigger pull and recoil in your experience?

>>64482697
large cities from the days of rome, alexandria, and byzantium have always been gathering points of diverse races, but /HG/ is becoming cloaca gentium, which will produce many amazing racial hybrids and some ethnic horrors that will beyond the powers of future gunsmiths to unravel.

>>64482773
Faggot

This is what strikerfags look like

Are people really paying premiums for Glocks due to the whole V series nonsense? I have a like new Glock 19 Gen 5 that I never carry that I'd probably sell if the offer was good.

>>64482778
How about answer the question instead of flirting?

>>64482776
Which of these two do you like more?

>>64482787
I'll give you $50 and a mcdouble

>>64482697
I don't understand what that is and I'm too scared to ask. Can you put it away?

>>64482761
Yeah it sounds like you're just making up stuff at this point the airweights in 38 have been solid for a super long time now
What failures did he have? It's well know that small autos as a whole are fairly finnicky and even if his revolver had some sort of issue it doesn't change that

>>64482787
Yes. For some reason people think the millions of gen 5s are going to disappear the second the V comes out. I'd sell it now, you can get more than you paid for it if it's in decent condition

The fact that glock refuses to make a g43x 15rd mag makes me seethe.

>>64482803
I shoot the echelon better than anything else, but the glock is still good and is much easier to carry in that configuration. I'm getting my 26's slide cut currently and oddly enough I can shoot it almost as good as my 19

>>64482787
If only you knew how bad things really were

>>64482816
>Yeah it sounds like you're just making up stuff at this point the airweights in 38 have been solid for a super long time now
Yeah sure man, you can't find folks talking about these problems a couple years ago at laughably low round counts by just googling it. Could it be that they all just had really really old smiths? Sure. But why would you assume I'm making shit up when the evidence is a google search away?
https://thefiringline.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-588128.html

https://smith-wessonforum.com/threads/s-w-j-frame-airweights-continuous-use-p.619383/

But I'm sure folks on the Smith and Wesson forms are just making things up to make Smith look bad.

>>64482833
Is it just the size difference that makes the Glock easier to carry or is it the light? I was looking at the compact size Echelon myself.

>>64482849
The s&w hater is back

>>64482855
it's both, having (or not having) an x300 makes a big difference in comfort, but grip lengths is what makes a pistol print. If you care about that. Thickness doesn't really matter imo. I hear good things about the 4.0 but I've never shot it. The full sized echelon is great

>>64482198 (OP)
If HK actually made metal guns I'd buy one. But they insist on cheap shit plastic like glock. Shame cause I believe they could make a pretty good looking metal handgun.

>>64482849
A failure at an extremely low round count is a defective gun that's not proof that airweights as a whole have a tendancy to crack frames left and right once they start getting to higher round counts
Even the failures in those threads are small parts not even the frame
Theres also a guy in there that says he has 7k rounds through one

>>64482860
Everyone who criticizes the things you like are wrong, and everything you like is perfect.

There's a reason we don't start handgun general threads with revolvers as the subject pic, and it's because it draws yall in.

>>64482820
I’m at Academy buying a new Gen 5 G19 MOS as we speak. I don’t want the Vagina series, and I don’t want a surp Gen 5 that has some fatass cop’s farts on it.

>>64482915
>>64482860
S&W has every right to be hated in current year. There is a noticeable decline in their quality ever since they moved their headquarters to Tennessee and anyone that has dealt with their newer stuff can see it.

>>64482915
1911fags are the worst.

i own three firearms, rate my taste:
cz 75b (with rosewood grips i got)
s&w model 60-14
sig p365x (all stock)

>>64482198 (OP)
>Expert
One day I will have an Elite, and I will put laser sighting on it.

>>64482949
You have a high probability of being trans

Well, I did it, I bought an USP9...third handgun and my fourth gun, started early this year. Wanted to get a new car, instead I choose to get my own tiny arsenal.

>>64482924
>company ditches literally all their staff to chase after cheaper wages
Many such cases. C-suite types at publicly traded companies don't give a fuck about anything other than next quarters profit. If they have to fire all their experienced employees to pump numbers, they will. They moved to TN to get cheaper workers, who are cheap because they don't have experience.

>>64482929
Seethe

>>64482915
Next OP should be a revolver just to make you squirm.

>200 bucks for something 3d printed
The price of holsters is really getting out of hand.

>>64482953
Good choice. Probably fiscally more responsible too.

>>64482998
>he didn't buy a custom holster from mika

>>64482995
Watch what happens if it is. It's an unwritten rule we don't do that because they're the worst threads /hg/ ever has

Also that ronin leather guy seems to raise his prices every time I look.

>>64483011
You will be forced to enjoy the rounder things in life and you will be better for it.

>>64483025
Do you even own one? What about the anons in here who had to send their S&Ws back? My model 69’s barrel is crooked.

>>64483014
I wonder if his health is failing, he’s had two surgeries this year. When I first found his stuff his prices were very competitive with custom kydex holsters (massively overpriced since the shit is like 5 dollars in material).

>>64483036
Oh and model 586L carry comp came with dead night sights, a very common problem according to online

A 1300 dollar revolver coming with dead night sights. A performance center with a heavier trigger pull than my model 69

>>64483036
>>64483043
According to a few anons here you're just an S&W hater, all these problems are overexagerated.

>>64483043
I sure sucks that there aren't any decent American gun manufacturers any more. They all either suck ass or have shit QC. Maybe we should move to Charter arms and maybe in a decade or two, they will be the go to revolver while S&W tries to sell basic bitch J frames for 700 dollars and Ruger sells LCRs for 800.

It's just the detroit fellow that doesn't believe s&w qc has gone to the shitter

>>64483051
Say what you want about Glock but their USA made guns are consistently decent

>>64483039
I was gonna order two holsters from him but when I saw the banner on his site about the surgery I decided against emailing him for now at least until he gets better.

>>64483051
Revolvers are gay, there’s plenty of old ones anyway

>>64483054
>It's just the detroit fellow that doesn't believe s&w qc has gone to the shitter

>>64475972
>Their customer service also has a much better rep than FN or Walther, but you're more likely to need it since they can't qc for shit.

I literally said they have bad QC in the last thread. This is exactly what I mean, revolver users aren't reasonable people. You cannot have a discussion with them. They will never argue in good faith. They should be kept with their own kind in their own threads with their own waterfountains. Weedengineer is a revolver user. They're all like that.

>>64482761
I went back today after cleaning it. The whole story is on the revolver general thread, along with a rant about dogs.
>>64482816
I had 2/5 fail with Hornady CD (didn't bother with good ammo at that point, was just testing to make sure it wasn't the slav shit that works fine in my Rugers.)
It's all on the other thread, but the tldr is it's a 1967 model 36 that was allegedly a Detroit police gun bought second hand by my friend's liberal dad and given to me for stupid reasons.

Anyway, 3 failures to fire in double action for a total of 7 out of 55.

You know so much about revolvers, look at the pics in this thread >>64467456 and tell me what to do.
>>64483065
Anecdotally, the old ones ain't so hot either.

>>64483076
I already replied to you there just start with the main spring

>>64483070
Why would anyone that likes revolvers be arguing that S&W has gone to shit? Seems like you're fighting ghosts. Calm down fren.

>>64483097
If you spend enough time on /k/ you will hear everyone shitting on every single American brand, colt, springfield, remington, ruger, etc.

For some reason never on kel tec though

>>64483113
lelkek is just assumed to be trash they’re not even worth dunking on.

>>64483118
keltec is well aware of their meme status, the rest just suck

>>64482950
Elite is weird. But if you're sure about owning it, go ahead.

Funny how the only good American made mass produced handguns are just yuro companies that set up factories here like beretta, hk and glock.

>>64483134
I see you left out the M&P

>>64483051
Is charter arms shit? The bulldog is calling to me.

>>64483054
If you're referring to me, the revolver in question is from 1967. I can't speak for the new ones. I did have to send my Ruger redhawk back in 2018, it locked up brand new. It's great...now. The other guy isn't from Detroit, he's just here rn.
>>64483070
I just seem to shoot them better. I have a theory that the lack of a reciprocating slide makes them easier to handle. For certain people they are better. Obviously auto loaders are going to be better for anything but the most basic scenario (single attacker vs novice shooter.)
>>64483088
Yeah I could try that, but I don't see where to buy a new OEM part. Buying scrap from another gun might not work because that spring is fucked too. The only ones I recall for sure were in double action and the spring is really tight. It looks like it's in good shape. I think it's probably something to do with how the parts are moving in double action, there's a whole thread on this on the SW forum where a guy had similar issues.
It could be clipping the hammer block but I don't want to make a range trip every time I have an idea.
Now that I type this I can just get some primed cases right? I don't need to shoot bullets to test this. I can do that at home. They should make a snap cap with an accelerometer in it to diagnose this!

Feeling kinda proud of myself. Been working on a project 1911 this past month and got to handle a $3000 Night Hawk. The project gun feels almost the same for less than 1/3rd the cost.

Just gotta figure out how to get the slide as buttery smooth. It's almost there but there's a tiny little bit of roughness when I rack the slide. Hammer seems to feel a tad rough when it meets the slide. Y'all have any advice on if I should polish it or whathaveyou?

>>64482893
>they insist on cheap shit plastic like glock
It's good, though.

>>64483149
They’re solidly budget and made in the U.S. the only notable person who has one is that illegal immigrant since it’s the only thing he can get illegally. The other was that gay guy obsessed with it being used by a serial killer.

>>64483153
In the search box type model 60
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004456815?pid=416634

>>64483167
Disconnector hang up? Or look at the hammer strut/mainspring stuff

>>64483178
*60 j frame

>>64483153
You can use the blue tape trick with some a zoom snap caps. Just put some blue tape on top of the rubber piece and when you pull the trigger you can see very clearly how deep the dent was on the blue tape.

>>64483208
>>64483178
And this is why I hang out in this insane asylum. Thank you!

>>64482904
...they did make a all metal handgun. The go for like $3k these days. Enjoy.

>>64483227
>$3k

>>64483222
The blue tape trick isn't exactly 1 for 1 with a real primer but it will give you a rough idea if what you're doing is improving anything.

>>64483227
Try 7k

>>64482355
Lmao

>>64483227
>tfw I saw a p7 in a pawn shop for 800 bucks not even a year ago
>didn't have any fun money to spend at the time
It still makes me seethe

>>64482557
Tenicor for my G43X

>>64482831
There's talk of Glock coming out with a 15rd mag due to police departments complaining about issued G43Xs being low on capacity.

>>64483261
Do you use the tenicor abdo mag carrier with it?

>>64482929
Revolver and 1911 fags get the rope

>>64483274
pls be true

>>64483280
come get me lil zoom zoom

>>64482225
Buy them faggot

https://revolverguy.com/sw-432-ultimate-carry-ti-review/

No, really, S&W's QC is actually fucked right now. They are a publically traded company and they do not give a fuck about the shit they put out as long as number go up.

Unfortunately Ruger and Colt's QC is fucked up right now too. I don't think it's solely a Smith problem (although their corporate culture doesn't seem to help and moving factories recently really hasn't helped), it seems like QC is fucked across all industries from guns to airplanes.

>>64483320
Shits gay I hope they don't become remington 2.0

>>64483233
I can use the single action as a control

>>64483326
I don't think that could happen any time soon, a big part of Remington's problem was being owned by a private equity firm that sucked the life out of it. Smith is public.

>>64483320
kek buffalo bore broke the gun

>>64483329
Remington is always going bankrupt. The first time they did it was in the 80's.
The 1880's.

>>64483065
Ur mum gay

>>64483374
Recently they have made some atrocious guns, the R51 alone should have sentenced them to 100x consecutive bankruptcies.

Why are any of you against non-metal shooties?

>>64482225
buy them now while you can.

>>64482773
kahr mk9

Can't decide between $300 APX gen 1 or $300 P320

>>64483615
The Toblerone has soul. If you don't like it, you can flip it for what you paid for it. Whoever's selling that Sig will celebrate that you're the sucker stuck with it now if you buy it.

I got a Glock 45. I want to modify as little as possible on the gun, but the little trigger dongle is going to irritate my finger. What trigger shoe is basically the OEM trigger shoe, but won't stick out when pulled? I want the plainest, most boring trigger that sits flush when the trigger safety is pulled.

>>64483227
My dad sold his P7M8...

but I get to own some cool shit. I can't complain.

cool shit like this, but yeah I'd love to have a P7M8

>>64483471
I own plenty, what are you on about?

>>64483301
probably gonna be a nickle ppk in 380. compact nines are too big I need something smaller.

>>64484592
Yeah

>>64484141
Look at the glock store YouTube channel they recently put out a video on how to fix this

>>64484598
they really are the best looking subcompact pistol on the market.

>>64482998
Funny. I've been trying to toy around with selling FDM holsters, and this guy goes and does it with multi-jet fusion.

>>64482998
You were expecting a reasonable price from raven concealment?

>>64482998
if you don't drop two hundred on your holster you WILL DIE in THE STREETS

>>64482232
Hub is a local distribution facility. I'd guess Ruger is worried about theft in transit?

Did this with Walther a while ago; in addition to the shipping label they also specified box size. Simple process and the return was to my house.

>>64482998
My T Rex arms holster is half that price

>>64484571
It was for the guys that hate plastic gunz

>>64482198 (OP)
Are 92fs parts compatible with the 92a1?

>>64482198 (OP)
Do you know what keeps me up sometimes /hg/? There are plenty of knockoff Glocks, Beretta 92's, CZs, Hi Point's, 1911s, P99s, etc. But there isn't a single knockoff USP.

>>64484758
Can't replicate without a compromise

>>64484642
I got a custom clear kydex holster for 58 bucks. Lot of people make good holsters without the eceleb or hype beast markup.

>>64484875
It's already compromised, look at the stupid mag release and useless rail

>>64484951
>stupid mag release
I have two HKs with that release, the rest of my (modern) pistols have a conventional button (some of the old ones have a heel release). I prefer the trigger guard lever.

Guys I really love the cc9

Glock is best $200 gun you can get for $500

>>64485075
I was always a Glock hater too, but Gen 5 really is good. Too bad Glock is gone now. Nu-Glock will be sovlless just like Nu-Sig and Nu-HK.

>>64484961
what's to like about it? seems real different from the usp lineage hk typically does

>>64484951
>Mag release
Filtered
>Rail
Product of the times, are you gonna bitch about a 1911 not having one because it predates the 1913 Picatinny?

>>64484758
There was this turk gun but it's not a full on knockoff

>>64485186
>SAR ARMS
Are you sure it's not Indian?

>>64485180
There's 1911's with 1913 rails because there's a market that doesn't treat them like Gunko Pops

>>64482343
>>64482417
My bg2.0 runs flawlessly. So does my buddy's who bought one. Shame your rentals were trash.

>>64485200
Yeah it's really too bad. The BG2 seems nice. Even if it worked as it should have, I didn't care for the sights or the safety and I don't really think it is worth 100 dollars more than the LCP Max. 25-50 more, sure, but definitely not 100. The two piece feed ramp kinda makes me iffy too. Seems like a place for things to get hung up on and for crap to build up in. The trigger was pretty nice though, especially for a pocket gun. When I get my extra power recoil spring from Mcarbo, I'm going to the range again to see if it helps reduce recoil in my LCP. Hopefully it will be more in line with the Bodyguard 2's recoil impulse. Anyone else try the extra power springs from Mcarbo or Galloway for their LCP Max?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1136456086
This seems like an amazing deal, but no on has bid on this at all and it keeps repeating countdowns
Am I missing a glaring flaw shown in the pictures that is averting people, or is it just the seller doesn’t give enough info on it?
The only thing I saw is that it may have the welded-on tiny sights that you can’t replace
I’m thinking about this, but I can’t tell why it is getting fully ignored unlike most other hi-power listings I see

>>64485241
Just my personal experience, messing with recoil spring weight is a recipe for disaster unless you’re tuning a gun with a comp that requires you to. It’s an easy way to make a reliable gun into something only usable as a range toy.

>>64485248
More than 2 days out. Nobody is bidding because they don't want the price to go up for no reason. People like to wait till the last hour or two to bid then the FOMO kicks in and the price skyrockets. I've bought a few things on there and that's how it always goes.

>>64485257
It’s gone all the way to zero more than once however
it just keeps restarting
that’s what’s weird to me

>>64485248
>>64485257
Likely won’t get bids because
>private seller
>no credit card, money order or checks only
There’s danger of it being a scam and or it doesn’t provide instant gratification since payment and shipping will take over a week

>>64485199
>Gunko pops
Fuck outta here faggot

>>64485269
Good catch, thanks
I glossed over that and just thought it said you simply “can” use money orders, instead of have to
My other guess was right, that it’s a private seller with barely any info provided for this

>>64485241
>I didn't care for the sights or the safety
Mine has no safety. Agree the sights are mediocre though.

>>64485283
There are some deals to be had with private sellers, just do your due diligence to make sure it’s not a scam

>>64485278
You may call him a larper, noguns, gay, dirt shooter, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a firearm collector and see how he recoils: "I've been found out"

>>64485251
You can always take it out if it causes problems. A lot of Ruger guns are undersprung to make it easier to rack the slide. Ruger is popular with old people after all so it makes sense. I've heard that the LCP Max is one of those undersprung guns. I've got a few hundred rounds of winchester FMJ to play with and maybe I'll handload some light loads just to make sure that it is reliable even if the ammo I use is light from the factory.

>>64485308
I dont get the retarded attitude with collectors.
There's shit I like to collect, big whop

>>64482198 (OP)
>HK edition
>USP Expert in .45
I pick up mine tomorrow from the LGS.

>>64485364
Lotta broke young ones take offense to people with disposable income

>>64485364
Now imagine there is an industry that discovered your niche and they release a new product of the type you collect, every year, specifically for you, no one else wants it. They make a limited run, and then discontinue it. How many funko pops do you end up with?

>>64485376
I didn't know defunct gun companies from the 20th century were just a long con collectibles grift.

>>64485380
These pics would be so GOATed if you didn't pair them with goonerb8

>>64485364
They’re literally just seething, jealous faggots. They usually just have one or a few crappy guns and complain about others.

>>64482198 (OP)
610$ NIB from LGS. Holster options?
Already have the GG&G rail and tried on my TLR1 for pics but it won't fit in my gen1 Phlster Floodlight.

How many Glock mags to you currently own?
How many of them are ETS mags?

>>64485522
10 33 rounders for my pcc, all glock brand

>>64485502
>>64485502
>610$ NIB
How?

I couldn't even get mine that cheap in 2007...

>>64485502
>$610
Yeah, how?

>>64485522
I only own 2 Glockazines, but I don't have a Glock brand Glock. I've just got a PSA Dagger and it's just a range toy so I don't really need more than that.

>>64485563
>>64485564
So you’ve discovered Ben Stoeger’s X account too.

I’m not sure it’s real since he says the Nighthhawk Sandhawk looks good but on several occasions in his videos says he hates Nighthawk Sandhawks because they’re a Cerakote finish

>>64485531
>>64485546
I have no fucking idea. Sticker was 660$ but I asked for 610$ and they accepted. I THOUGHT I was getting just the gun but dude said the box is in the back with another mag. I was kinda sorta sus but no, its a legit 2025 production .45 USP. I thought the USP was getting discontinued as a clearance sale or something.
Picrel is a pic I sent to friends but my dumbass didn't notice the big 660$ tag until the next day.

>>64485376
I'm not obligated to buy it.

>>64485577
You are one lucky son of a bitch. I'd snap up a usp in 45 for $660 this instant if I came across it at my LGS. Nice find brotherman.

>>64485577
Maybe a “friend of the industry” thing, sometimes gun companies send freebies or reduced price guns to registered dealers so the Gunstore can sell it for a also reduced price to attract customers/interest in that brand

>>64485563
>>64485564
Glock 17 and 45 seem pointless unless you have giant meat hooks. The Gen 5 G19 with no backstrap fits my hand perfectly with the trigger guard undercut and slight flare on the magwell.

>>64485599
Thanks, man, yeah I bebopped back up there with the quickness. They also have another, a very used HK45 Tactical for 900$ which i felt seemed a far more likely price to see on an HK. I dunno, maybe someone looked up the MSRB on the Hk45 Tac and thought the USP is normally priced way lower? Lotta shops do that shit around here.

Picrel is a older USP 9 up the road at a pawnshop.

>>64485622
Didnt think of that but this shop is notorious for charging stupid prices. They have a Bulgarian Mak for 424$

So, any holster options?

>>64485575
No, it's real. I just think the Nighthawk looks nice in those pics.

>>64485783
Wow, that has a porked barrel? Nice!

>>64485835
What did you do in Japan, you were there for weeks

>>64485868
Bought underwear magazines at Tora no Ana and then jacked off into my Kleen Bore silicone cloth in my capsule hotel.

>>64485878
Seems like a stogerite thing to do

is tisas the best 1911 on the market rn?

>>64485904
lol lmfao

>>64485904
yeah

>>64485917
bot

>>64484598
>>64484592
>>64483301
>>64482225
What's the point of you don't vote in your local election, they're gonna get yours

>>64484598
is this a new production? what year?

>>64485904
no

>>64485904
>best
lolno
>best value
probably

>>64485904
For 300 dollars? Probably, but for a few dollars more you can get modernized Tisas. The GI model IMO fucking sucks

>>64485928
cockroach

>>64485196
No I don't think about them 24/7 like you.

>>64485963
Sorry, saar. Please continue doing the needful.

>>64485934
or I'll come for yours ;)

>>64485968
You're in pain. No one cares about them except you.

>>64485945
so what's the best one in it's original configutation?

Does anyone have experience with differences in reliability between 185gr vs. 230gr +p ammo? Youtube tells me this thing was designed around 185gr +p but the manual mentions only that 185gr was used to zero the sights. I'd prefer to use 230gr +p because it's still subsonic, but don't know if it would negatively impact the slide / mag feed cycling.

>>64485971
>You're in pain.
Am I also insane? Can you tell by what I'm saying?

>>64485971
And you’re in India lol.

>>64485971
>>64485963
Cry more, stinky.

>>64485971
Go back. DEI - Deport Every Indian

>>64485975
If you can afford a MK23, you can afford a box of 230gr +P and a range day to test it.

>>64485975
hk prides themselves on durability. Knowing what I know about their other guns I owned/shot, you could absolutely run hot and heavy exclusively and it'd eat it without issue basically forever.

>>64485388
Here, ftfy

>>64486060
Delete this.

>pay to get my slide cut for an optic
>hate shooting with dot
This sucks. Who let me fall for the meme

>>64486102
Same. now I have a cut in my p30l and I feel like a jackass.

>>64486060
Lmao, Beretta Inoxes are built for BBC.

>>64486102
>>64486105
Have you tried foreskin restoration exercises?

>>64486117
>obsessed with jews and black weiners
jesus fucking christ, God was working with his eyes closed when he made you, huh

>>64486102
Learn how to do it and you’ll never want to go back. Are you shooting target focus? What about rapid fire? Are you shooting sub .5 splits at least?

Dots just make it plain easier to put the bullets where you want them

>>64486122
>God was working with his eyes closed when he made you, huh

>>64486122
Jesus doesn't make mistakes, baby. He made me just how His Daddy intended.

Well, after another 50 or so rounds it happened again, twice. Even cleaned it the night before. Have to be closing in at around 500 rounds at this point. Think it's time to cut my loses and trade it out, or stick with it?

>>64486196
How difficult is it to call glock and have them look at it? Pick up the phone

>>64486218
Why do that when you can get attention for it online on a Korean basket weaving forum?

>>64486196
Are you limp wristing it

>>64486233
Did you see that hand? Of course he is. He's built like a fat office chicken. I wouldn't be surprised if he was shooting light 9mm reduced recoil with a lightweight spring swap.

>>64486218
Also already did that. They replaced the spring and guide rod

>>64486233
I didn't think I was, but then again maybe I eased up too much

>>64486196
I'd contact Glock. What gen? Their .45s are usually solid so there's something wrong with it. I did hear some isolated reports of similar failures(usually a specific round in the magazine, one of the last ones) on some gen 5 21s about a year or so back fwiw.

>>64482198 (OP)
What pistols should I buy before VA goes straight up mental against guns?

>>64486312
Single shot musket solely for hunting, just as the framers intended.

>>64486335
That's retarded and already own one.

>>64486335
Shut the fuck up. Thomas Jefferson would have loved my FRT equipped M4 SOPMOD clone.

>>64485975
I have a almost 1200 rounds through mine. 95% of that has been 230gr FMJ. Just a little bit of 185gr JHP, various +P and both type of 45 super. It hasn't had one problem with any of it, so in my limited experience there is no difference.

>>64486196
>that kind of jam
That's a limp-wrist jam. Have some others shoot it for a bit and see if it still happens. I let my sister shoot my USP 45 once and she got that jam once or twice every magazine when I have gone thousands and thousands of rounds without a jam on it.

>>64486301
>I didn't think I was, but then again maybe I eased up too much
Try changing your grip and really concentrate on keeping it steady. You can be doing that and then when it goes off you let off a little bit and it can do this jam. You may not do it with other pistols and it's just something about this pistol that is making you limp-wrist it.

>>64486311
I'm not sure the exact gen, but you're right. I've run a Gen 3 21 for well over a decade and I've never had it do anything like this

>>64486301
>Also already did that. They replaced the spring and guide rod
Tell them it keeps happening and it didn't fix the issue. It's (unfortunately) not uncommon to have to send back a gun multiple times these days.

Limp wristing is a woman thing unless you're injured or something.

>>64486123
Everyone keeps saying this but I still preferred iron sites. Nta

>>64485522
More than 100
All OEM

>>64486312
Start voting in local election and just in general.

>>64486365
Can you post a pic showing the whole thing so we can tell? I think the 30s might've only been gen 3 but could be wrong, not super familiar with the compact .45 line from them. Did you buy it new or used? I'd try marking your mags, could be a bad one.

>>64485369
Dude nice. USP Expert is a good shooter.

>>64486381
its very common when you get knocked over or are shooting very quickly from a holster

>>64486063
no

>>64486540
Niggerjew retards itt unironically cannot envision a a shooting scenario where they're not shooting at a still standing target whilst standing still yourself. They don't even practice shooting from their car or motorcycle, that's how gay these nigger retards are.

>gunko pops
If you buy the guns we can't sell, we'll donate $50 to the jews that stole Charlie's org after murdering him.

>>64486564
Holy fuck what level of cope is this?

>>64486562
Thanks for confirming you're a fake woman.

>>64486441
Here we are. It was bought new. I had one mag marked and used this particular one the past few trips

>>64486575
I don't own any berettas

>>64486562
>can't hold a gun tightly in various positions
>switches over to the you just don't shoot defense
Interesting

This one anon who constantly compares beretta owers to trannies is funny

>>64486567
What part don't you understand?

>>64486592
The fact that it's true makes it even funnier.

>>64486599
I’m sure it is friend

>>64486595
Sig be like:
>ayo let's improve our image
>let's support TPA
>let's sponsor MMA fights and fighters
>but let's not ever do a recall on the gun that is unironically killing siggers
GM would have done a recall by now, and they hate their customers

>>64486592
>compares
the word you seek is "equates", and it's a non-false equation

>>64486592
I'm tempted to check on my ex coworker troon who I haven't heard from who has Mormon parents actually owns guns.
>You okay? I haven't heard from you in months.
>By the way, how many Berettas do you own?
>No real reason, it's for science.

>>64486604
>splitting hairs between a recall and a free fix

>>64486604
Do we have any confirmed kills from uncommanded discharges? They took that air force guy off the scoreboard.

>>64486564
>it's real
Damn I thought thought this was a bait.

>>64486615
Not admitting guilt is a pretty big hair.

>>64486592
It’s the illegal immigrant who schizo posts, doesn’t know his ass from the target since he’s never actually gone shooting

>>64486615
Where did I say that? They're the same thing

>>64486617
Are you trashing on the dead golem's memory? Israel won't be happy about this. Seriously, yes there are other deaths. And who took that golem off the scoreboard?

>>64486622
this

*burp* some of you guys just can't stop talking about trannies all the time and it's funny

>>64486364
I will admit I was trying to practice firing a little faster so I might have gone a bit lax on my grip during the volleys. I'll take it out again tomorrow and try to slow down.

do polymer guns have less potential for super high round counts? some guy on youtube says his glock frame warped downward in the middle after 89k rounds. would a internal metal chassis like on the m&p eliminate this warping once you get to very high round counts (100k+)

>>64486624
Berettatroon, it's me, but not just me. You can't post Berettas next to tranny coomrag shit 10,000,000 times and expect anons not to notice

>>64486629
Some of you "guys" can't stop posting tranny coomrags, and it's cringe

>>64486631
That’s just glock engineering

>>64486631
by virtue of polymer being less strong than metal? sure but the amount of force exerted on the frame of the pistol is not that much.

>>64486634
>tranny coomrags

you mean asian chicks in lingerie?
inb4 you say >chicks just to be pedantic

>>64486631
>>64486635
>>64486636
On one hand, polymers don't rust. On the other hand, polymers are more susceptible to heat warping

>just Glock engineering
How? I'm skeptical of this

>>64486631
Yet despite that warp the gun still runs perfectly

>>64486634
>"guys"
I'm a 6'1 250 pound dude with a Beretta. Whatchu gonna do about it?

>>64486631
Not worth worrying about. That's spending an order of magnitude more on ammo than the gun. You should be able to afford a replacement gun.

>>64486631
maybe its from all that retarded shit he's got on it? IDK looks like he managed to bubba up a glock lol

>>64486647
im pretty sure he said he retired it because it wasnt as accurate, even though it ran reliably

>>64486647
this is why the m&p's internal chassis seems like the best of both worlds to me, im also just trying to justify buying another polymer gun thats 99% the same as my glocks

>>64486634
Pathetic

>>64486643
Yes, that's troon vibes, but not what I was talking about. Do I need to post that literal furry porn next to the troon's Beretta?

>>64486648
You need a penis to be a dude. Your axe wound doesn't count

>>64486673
I'm a big burly man

>>64486673
Weeb cartoon fetishists crying about furry porn will never not be funny to me

>>64486673
You’re the guy who spams interracial gay pornography and gore, you have no room to speak

>>64486673
>troon vibes

is this some hamfisted way of trying to peer pressure anons into not looking at porn? is this your contribution to 'the struggle'?

>>64486687
You're a big burly troon

>>64486688
>weeb
Oh HELL no you didn't, I hate tranime. Berettatroons are the biggest weebs here btw. I never once posted tranime, nor will i ever

>>64486695
I do it as a weapon and ironically. The Berettatroon does it because xe thinks it's eye candy. Xe actually enjoys what xe posts, whilst I'm disgusted by it.

>>64486704
I'm not a troon. I said I'm a man, dumbass.

>>64486708
Give it time it's gonna happen

>>64486704
>I have a massive amount of gay pornography on my computer, ironically

> I hate anime
>I hate posting my guns actually (mainly because everyone made fun of me)
>but I’ll continue to post on 4chan despite being banned like hundreds of times because I can’t help but share my gay pornography

>>64486710
*burp* nah, I'm good.

>>64486700
I'm not pressuring anyone into anything, I'm just calling out the correlation between tranime posting niggerweebs and their beloved Berettas. Consider this, jannies are widely accepted as transgender, and they are on the side of Beretta anons. Coincidence?

>>64486727
>I'm just calling out the correlation

to what end tho? this is a weapons board.

new bread

>>64486740

>>64486740

>>64486740

>>64486740

>>64486740

>>64486727
You have bitched endlessly about berettatroons for years now, you’re mentally ill, a loser, and retarded

>>64486715
It's on the cloud, retard. Also, how is it any better than your beloved glowniggers saving CP for their glowops?

>>64486722
>i hate posting my guns
I post a few k-designated firearms regularly

>everyone made fun of me
For the Nth time, this means I'm a normal human. If you nigger retards ever stopped making fun of me and seething, that would be the day I unironically kill myself, because it would mean I'm as retarded, gay, and Jewish as you autistic nigger retard glowfaggots.

>>64486735
To what end to troons post tranime here? Seems to me this is really a tranime board. Besides, if this is a weapons board, how come people call out "noguns" every thread, as if this place is teeming with people who don't own or care about weapons? And how come this shithole is nothing but incompetence when it comes to modifying or repairing weapons? And why do they devolve into screeching over trivial things?

>>64486747
You seethe about me in every single thread, so you cannot be any better than I

*burp*

>>64486631
Anyone who soldering iron stipples should be red flag law'd. Buy some grip tape you jew fuck

>>64482198 (OP)
It's not a USP without a silencer or extended barrel, I refuse!

>>64485999
How did no one get this niche Dax freestyle reference. CHECKED

>>64486167
bless you, anon. You're alright.

>>64486648
every time that fucking pistol is posted my odds of buying it go up. Such a goddamn good looking gun.