Thread 64494545

All Hail General Milley Edition

By posting in this thread, you are submitting a digital salute to General Mark Milley

LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD

>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
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pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (embed) (embed) (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS%20SF%20Prep%20Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg%3D%3D
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps)

>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.

>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS

>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png (embed) (embed)
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
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>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Programs/Get-College-Credit-for-What-You-Know/

>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal

>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.

Milley betrayed this countries greatest president.

>>64494545 (OP)
First for salute to General Mark Milley

>>64494564
Zion Don is a war criminal and a traitor just like Genocide Joe, Robert.

>>64494564
Your "greatest president" just pardoned a literal Chinese spy you dumb fuck.

>>64494584
Then they made him kiss the Great Wall of China and wear a Chinese hat

My back is kinda fucked up. Is this a DQ these days? How likely is a waiver to get approved if so?

>>64494607
Get in and claim it was service related.

Is it hard to commission? I have a CS degree with a 2.8 GPA.
I could also go enlisted I suppose. Kinda ran out of luck in life.

>>64494628
That GPA is not going to do you any favors, so you'll have to compensate for it, but it is possible for you to commission.

>>64494607
As long as you can pass MEPS you're good unless it is a serious issue that means you can't go combat arms or whatever. Once you're in get an MRI or something and say the problems started after you joined. I'm pretty sure i had arthritis before i joined but i didn't know for sure until i got an MRI on my neck and now it's service related.

Just pick a job that isn't too physical and no one will notice.

>>64494628
You can always go to OCS.

27 too old?

>>64494915
Nope. I had a dude that age in 2014. He was not the oldest trainee.

>>64494915
I think 28 or 29 is the cutoff for marines without a waiver, but you shouldn't go marines anyway.

As the economy gets worse, you will see more old fucks joining.

How powerful are Warrant officers? I know that a CW5 is a unicorn, but since they are not commissioned and above regular enlisted, are they like jedi in terms of autonomous power?

I get a free medal for being in the CF for 13ish years soon

>>64495661
Chiefs are basically the best people to work with. Flight warrants are great, maintenance warrants will always get you everything you need. I was an maintenance NCO and if i ever needed anything done at motorpool that the sergeants had problems with i went to the lieutenant or chief warrant officer and something that would take a month got resolved the same day. Warrant officers are extremely powerful since they can bypass all the usual bullshit.

My buddy is saying people are in DEP for the air force for up to a year sometimes. I really want intel, but I need a job soon. Is security forces really that bad? I'm thinking of trying 35F in the army.
I got a degree and a 90 on the ASVAB.

>>64495839
Yes, secfo is trash. Not sure why you even brought it up if you want to be intel. Have you talked to a recruiter?
Also, >enlisting with a degree

>>64494915
I was told that 27 is the cutoff age for rotc. And I'm almost 24. But just today I was told be a former lieutenant colonel that apparently not. Like I'm too old for West Point but I wasn't gonna go there anyways.

Are guaranteed duty stations still a thing? I could fuck with 4 years in the Army if I got to go to Europe.

>>64496932
Yes, ask a recrooter about option 19 contracts. What's available can be kind of random and there might not be a slot for what you want at the time, so be prepared to wait. The government shutdown might also affect what's available but idk exactly how.

Anyone have coastie experience? I'm heading to MEPS soon and am looking to be an ME and go the DSF route

>>64498283
What is your question?

>>64498316
Mostly curious about what maritime enforcement rate life is like. Theres very little online compared to all the other rates

>>64498368
Kind of depressing from what I've heard because it ranges from ebix drug busting to having to stand guard over a hysterical sobbing family for 4 hours so you can dump them off at a native port eventually. Depends on how you feel on that stuff.

I'm thinking of enlisting but the government shutdown worries me because I'm afraid of potential extended delay to my application process if I were to apply:
Should I just wait until it's all over?

>>64498368
Depending on your billet, anything from

Endless 24/7 high speed training (MSRT)
Lots of travel to do force protection at important events (MSST)
Actual hands-on counterdrug boardings in eastpac or caribbean, if that goes back in style (TACLET)
Training non-MEs and doing security boardings on cargo ships and ferries (SBT)
Training non-MEs and helping out with rec safety boardings (Station)
Training non-MEs and helping with migrant/drug/fisheries boardings, case package prep, and detainee logistics (Cutter)
Base security (CGPD)
And others,

Currently DSF roles are "easy" to get if you can pass the screeners.

>>64498736
aren't you self-delaying by waiting?

>>64499006
Probably but I get this real bad feeling that if I were to enlist now while the government is shutdown, I'll end up stuck in the process even longer due to backlog of other applicants:
Shit's so fucked up right now man!

>>64495839
>Is security forces really that bad?
Typically yes. I can't think of any other enlisted career field with as many opportunities, both good and bad (mostly bad), as security forces. Right now there's a first-term Airman scanning CACs at Bellows not giving a fuck. Meanwhile there's a dude in North Dakota doing the same thing who would genuinely murder the former dude to get his spot. The latter is significantly more likely. Also neither of them are intel.

>>64499373
> any other enlisted career field with as many opportunities,
any manner of technician is incredibly civ-relevant and is basically a free job at a defence contractor if you don't just happily retire at 55

>>64499105
The military runs whether there's a shutdown or not. People are bound by contracts.

Stop finding excuses if you wanna do it

>>64499422
no it doesnt congtress is shiut down so Militayr is shut down

>>64498736
Actual realpost "Government Shutdown" doesn't mean anything. It happens all the time, in lots of countries too, and is just means that congress/parliament/etc isn't conducting sessions when they "should" and are not making any new decisions. The government itself in terms of all the administration stuff is still happening fine.

>>64499489
Are you retarded? You may not get paid but nothing changes.

>>64499392
I meant while active duty.

>>64499422
Some civilians at MEPS might be furloughed at the moment, idk.
But yeah his reasoning doesn't make sense to me. Maybe he thinks he has to quit his job while waiting to ship out or something.

>>64499511
If you "really need a job" take whatever they offer, make your money, and fluff up your CV.

>>64495661
Depends a lot on branch of service. I didn't see a lot of them the Navy, but I did work for one for about a year. The flight warrants in the Army kind of make sense but in the Navy, warrants just sort of...exist. All the ones that I encountered were filling div-o or department head billets, with the occasional medical specialist at the clinic.
>my div-o in 2002 was cwo-5
>dude was an actual vietnam vet, nearing 40 years service by that point
>drove a new jaguar, made more money than anyone on board but the co
>nice enough guy, reaganesque hands-off management style, mostly because he was going senile and would fall asleep at briefs and meetings and just ask someone for a recap afterwards
>come to think of it, that's how I handle briefs and meetings today when I can get away with it
>would occasionally get phone calls from random spots on the ship, letting us know that our warrant had gotten lost again and would we please send someone to retrieve him
>transferred off boat just over a year after he'd arrived, heard they med boarded him out
>o's I associated with outside of work told me that he ate at his own table and was regarded with a mixture of fascination and horror by the rest of the wardroom

>>64495661
They are by definition middle managers, so it's about the same as any other boss who still has to get things done. You get a lazy one who makes shit roll downhill, you're fucked. You get one who protects his own position, at least he protects you as "human capital". Sometimes you get nice ones who don't forget where they came from.

>are they like jedi in terms of autonomous power?
No. Muh mission and so on. How I put it to my juniors:

>The CO wants something strategic done. The CO tells the departmental officers about it.
>The departmental officer tells the "warrant" that something strategic needs to get done, then prepares the money for it.
>the warrant tells the masters/senior corporals that something strategic needs to get done, and the money is prepared; something tactical needs to get done.
>The masters tell the corporals that some part of something tactical needs to get done, the prepares the equipment for it.
>The corporals tell the privates that something tactical needs to get done, and the equipment is prepared; some individual task needs to get done.
Or something like that. Basically, it's all just layers of management shedding concerns from above that no longer matter in favor of more local concerns that werent addressed at upper meetings as tasks get distributed down.