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Do not talk about femreppers, but they're allowed to post here if they don't plan to transition

QoTT: how are you celebrating pride month

Discord: https://discord.gg/e8j6tFRxPd

Butch C 4 Femme T!

>how are you celebrating pride month
I'm really not doing much, since we celebrate pride on November where I live, so I'm waiting for that

>>39985940
I didn't know they did it in different months elsewhere

>>39985940
What do u do in November?

Seriously, what do I need to do to attract trans women into my life?

>>39985948
>>39985975
Because it celebrates the first LGBT+ organization's foundation on Nov 1st 1967
So we usually have a parade/march on the first Saturday of November each year
It's not that we don't celebrate also in June (mostly online and via corposlop) but the big popular one is in November

>>39986070
Take me out for lunch ig?

>>39986070
go up to every trans woman you clock irl and say really loudly and clearly how much you want to be them or have their bodies or how bad you need their gock

>>39986070
Probably u want to be more forward, a lot of tw might be less bcs of safety issues.

Hold her hand tell her she's pretty go out with her

U should also be kinda picky

>>39986070
Be forward/aggressive, be hella masc, communicate that you take our gender identity seriously and make it clear that you only top.
You will have the pick of the litter.

>>39986282
most trans women are femme4femme

>>39986428
Blatantly false

>>39986428
People with bad taste should not be considered as partners anyway desu.
Besides, the sheer number of t4t transbians kinda throws things off.
I know two other c4t trans lesbians besides myself and we are all into masc butches.

>>39986472

NTA but i don't think its bad taste its just different from yours

>>39986497
I'm being purposefully hostile to provoke discussion.
I hate having to bump these generals.

>>39986645
I understand the mission. I'm also not that well versed on butchfemme so i kinda feel like i'm going to be talking out my ass.

Masc partners can be nice and it has its place and its something i'm into

femme4femme feels like it encourages relationship equality butchfemme feels like roles are more clearly defined former appeals to me more

i get that u can run into issues if ur both exclusive bottoms though

>>39986750
>I'm also not that well versed on butchfemme so i kinda feel like i'm going to be talking out my ass
In fairness, these days most people don't really understand butch/femme. They use the terms as shorthand for masculine/feminine.
In reality they are specific identities that imply a number of things and have an association with masc/feminine presentation.
>butchfemme feels like roles are more clearly defined
Very much so and that has a ton of appeal to me personally.
>i get that u can run into issues if ur both exclusive bottoms though
Another benefit of clearly defined roles desu.

>>39986829
>these days most people don't really understand butch/femme
I get that they are specific subcultures and carry specific connotations in terms of relationship bits

>Another benefit of clearly defined roles desu.
I guess. I don't really care about top/bottom stuff if i'm not doing penetration + we both take an active role

>>39986645
also for the bump thing i think i'd prefer the longer form slower correspondence that clg has we just get inundated alot with haters

maybe like a more comprehensive set for qott posts to spark discussion?

>>39986906
Athena my beloved

>>39986906
>I get that they are specific subcultures and carry specific connotations in terms of relationship bits
That is better then most desu.
>I guess
I really like having a clearly defined role and set of expectations in a relationship.
Plus, I exclusively bottom anyway.
>>39986934
I think some more qotts that lend themselves to more thoughtful responses would be a good move.

>>39986951
I posted her but I'd say Diana is my patron (larp bit i don't believe in these). I feel like i relate with her more.

>>39986955
Gotcha gotcha, idk i'd consider myself 'service' but i want to take an active role

What would you suggest for qott?

>>39986972
nta, but my faith is pretty complex and goddess centered. Focused on Cybele.
>>39986987
>i'd consider myself 'service' but i want to take an active role
Hey, I certainly love making my partner feel good.
There is just a difference between using fingers/mouth and putting on a strap.
>What would you suggest for qott?
My strategy was performative hostility. So whatever idea you have is going to be better then anything I could think up.

>>39985866 (OP)
All this sounds like a good place to be a trans woman and meet other trans women. Hello girls I'm available

>>39987130
There are a ton of mtfs who are really into cybele, i understand why its just fun

>strap
I figure my preferences might change after srs but for now mostly fingers + mouth (oral fixaiton maybe? idk)

>qott
I think maybe a questionaire or something next time, throw around a few discussion topics and one might bite.

>>39987340
>There are a ton of mtfs who are really into cybele
I have only met other mtfs into Hecate. But then, I'm attracted to esoteric stuff and that kinda blends into witchy things functionally.
>fingers + mouth
That is fun for sure.
But straps are just magical. Especially if you have a partner that is into some of the more creative and kinky options out there.
I cannot wait for srs, dysphoria aside, I like the idea of having another option for my partners. Plus not having to prep as much would be amazing.

>>39987461
I kinda figured it was the whole eunich priestess thingy

idk i think my aversions to straps is that i've had some bad experiences w/ anal which is why i'm open to revisiting after i get bottom surgery

>>39987863
>I kinda figured it was the whole eunich priestess thingy
Oh, don't get me wrong. That is absolutely an appeal for me.
Thankfully these days we do not even have to drink the urine of pregnant mares to get E. Legitimately the best ever time to be a priestess of Cybele.
>idk i think my aversions to straps is that i've had some bad experiences w/ anal
That makes sense anon. When anal goes bad it can go very bad. So I do not blame you for shying away from it.
Personally I like the feeling of being fucked more then I do the feeling of anal specifically. It is more an emotional high for me. So I think SRS would just make that so much better for me.

>>39986070
want to know what this anon thought of our advice...

>>39987926
Did they do the pregnant mares drinking thing? I've never heard of that loll

Does that work?

>>39988052
>Did they do the pregnant mares drinking thing?
Technically it was associated with the Scythians. But based on the descriptions of the basically trans priesthood of Cybele (as well as Cybele being from the east), it seems very possible they did also.
>Does that work?
Pregnant mare urine is full of E. I think E was synthesized from it into the 20th century.
But back in the day. It was really the only form of HRT available.
I think it is pretty cool stuff. HRT is ancient.

>>39988127
Theres something about consuming androgens (like eating) and your body converts it to estrogen i don't think the reverse process is true but its funny

>>39986101
>>39986282
>>39986428
>>39987941
I'm taking notes
>>39986118
I'm seriously asking.
>>39986193
>U should also be kinda picky
"Picky" in what way?

>>39988435
>I'm seriously asking.
and I'm seriously answering, that would probably work on me

you are male

>>39988435
ignore clock anon she hates our gen and what we stand for

You should be picky like, when u get it right you will be flooded with potential interests,

pick the ones who will make the best long term partners idk, have the right traits good people socially aware etc.

>>39988538
So are you bud, have a nice XY day

My gf offered to brush my hair and my stupid, clueless ass replied with a dry "no thanks"
At least she accepted my "no wait, actually brush it please" 2 hours later when I realized

>>39988642
aww thats sweet loll

is this ur first post here?

I feel like I'm the only actual cisf chaser here, because I'm not a 'pooner repper', lol

>>39988761
there's a couple on the discord lol, and ppl who show up occasionally

but welcome to the thread lol what brings u here

>>39988761
Probably. Thankfully there are a few reppers.

>>39988761
>>39988808
We love our cisf chasers (non-repper) here !!!

>>39988687
No, but I've made <10 posts so far so I'm still pretty new

>>39988781
Desu I show up occasionally
I just came back from a date with a trans girl, so this thread immediately got into my head
>>39988835
Thanks!!

>>39988808
Wouldn't that just be a weird ST4T?

>>39989022
How was ur date tell us Abt the girl

>>39989033
No since they're not trans, don't plan to transition, and identify as women

Do you have any piercings? Do you like when your potential partners have piercings? If so, which ones?

>>39989095
Nice! I took her to a good asian restaurant (which she really enjoyed because she’s half asian, so it reminded her of her cultural roots). We mostly talked about our childhood and cultures, which I guess is good for a first date, it's a way to get to know each other.
I hope I made a good impression (which I think I did, because she just called me for a second date yay).
My biggest fear is the friend zone

>>39989033
No. But we are not allowed to get into it.
Just refer to >>39989109
They are welcome here. But we cannot really talk about them.
>>39989248
>Do you have any piercings?
Just ears + septum.
>Do you like when your potential partners have piercings?
I do. I have never been with someone who had any exotic piercings. But I would be into it.
I really like facial piercings on my partners.

>>39989248
I don't have any piercings, not against a potential partner having them but like, don't overdo it (not into people who have a ton)

>>39989276
Ohh cute.

Is she pretty? what did u learn about her?

>>39989248
Septum + snake bites is the way to go, those are the ones I got

>>39989611
septums can be cute i don't really get the appeal of snake bites

>>39989619
Different people like different things I guess
I find snake bites pretty cute, even if they get in the way when kissing

>>39989632
I will say I think they work better on some like face shapes than others, cute people generally have septum piercings

This thread needs more cute art, preferrably Lumity

>>39989877
we pay respects to the threadposters who came before

>>39989943

i have a coworker who im 90% sure is in to me i mean she literally put a dog leash on me but we are hanging out soon and i am very excited when i asked what we were gonna be doing she said we could "make something shake" and i think she noticed i blushed at that so should i go in expecting maybe sex or just treat it like a normal hang out? we are going to be going to a park and smoking i think

>>39989978
expect to hang out

something more might happen so u should be prepared

>>39989943
i want to be this one day eeeeeeeee

i want to be a mom and raise a family with my c4t wife

>>39990021
how should i prepare wdym

>>39990056
just like, know that more *might* happen but don't expect it if that makes sense

>>39986070
Just talk to them, it’s finding them (well ones that are chill and mesh with) that is hard. Also depends on location too.

>>39990077
ok thats what i was kinda planning on doing like i think we might make out but i shouldnt expect it is what you are saying?

>>39990171
yea probably

she might give u more explicit indicators and then u could ask

I think my wife might genuinely be the prettiest girl ive ever seen she has blue eyes and brown curly hair and shes absolutely gorgeous and she has STOMACH FRECKLES!!! shes so pretty so pretty I spend hours looking at pictures of her i think and its probably weird but shes so gorgeous idk if I could stop if I wanted to whenever she talks to me i can feel every negative feeling drain out of my body I LOVE MY WIFE <- #1 WIFE LOVER

>>39990799
Remember to ask her out soon. Before someone else does :^)

>>39990995
its depressing when my joy is tarnished by dread btw

>>39991038
I'm just saying. If she is as perfect as you say, don't you think other people have taken notice also?
I want you two to have a happy ending anon. I'm invested. The first step towards that is you telling her how you feel.

are estrogen taking "males" (read: will never pass) allowed here? just an observer desu, i manmode too much for lesbianism.

i think ya'll should have a discussion on what counts for "t" when it comes to c4t desu, pooner reppers obviously fit but manmoders might not?

>>39991496
You would probably be better in chasergen.
This thread is sapphic. If you are not identifying and presenting as a woman, then you do not really fit.

sorry if this is weird to ask but how many cisf here (would also be interested to hear trans women's experiences with cisf) would actually date a trans woman who is dysphoric and doesnt want to ever top (strap is fine occasionally)

every cis woman ive ever dated has just wanted me for my dick and its slowly killing me

>>39991620
The only cis woman I have been with who was like that was a bi.
I have never had that problem with cis lesbians.

I think it also helps that I'm pretty open about being an exclusive bottom.

>>39991641
i think i just might be retarded because every time im on a dating app and i see a lesbian i end up getting bashful and thinking im not who she’s looking for basically. like i get all in my head about it and intentionally don’t match with them bc i don’t wanna feel like im invading their space or like im tricking them even though im very frank about being trans and a dysphoric bottom. i match with a LOT of them if i let myself but it just feels wrong. any advice on how to let go of that weird feeling and not assume the worst of what cis lesbians will think of me?

>>39985866 (OP)
>QoTT:
It's not quite pride in Canada just yet, I don't really have many plans so far but I will likely hangout with friends this month (it's a yearly occurence) and I will likely see a metal show at the end of next month
>>39985927
cute pairing
>>39985940
what country?
>>39986070
if you meet a clocky twinkhon please don't drop her if she harbours a lot of self-loathing, it might be annoying but many cis women just give up on us because of our worms and it only makes it even worse.
we're also usually very afraid of talking to people, if you see a trannoid just approach her, she shouldn't be too afraid to talk
>>39986118
lmfao
>>39988761
grats
rare occurence
>>39989248
I have a septum ring and if I had money I'd have a lot more
I love body mods gimme angels with body mods
>>39989276
that's cute
I autistically ranted when seeing a cis woman once and she doesn't talk to me much anymore
I spoke about black metal, epic poetry, and communism...
>>39990799
I wish I was genuine enough to be with a real woman like you
I'm so happy for you

do you prefer clits with small hoods or big hoods?
would anyone here like to suck and kiss my clit?

>>39985866 (OP)
where are t meeting c?
I’m too brainwormed to use her or lex bc of the whole invading wombyns spaces thing
Do I just need to get over it

>>39992188
>do you prefer clits with small hoods or big hoods?
I prefer clits that have been exposed to T.
But put a gun to my head; Big hoods.
>would anyone here like to suck and kiss my clit?
Sure?
But I would probably want to have dinner, catch a movie or something first.

>>39992188
I have literally never seen one in real life only pp
>>39992209
I feel the same way

>>39992188
I like yours and please put it in my mouth <3

>>39992209
Dating apps are sent to us from Satan go to queer events

Bump before bed

>>39992543
where do i find out about these queer events

>went on date last night
>cute masc, suprisingly more attractive than in her photos
>exactly my type, even down to having an accent
>polite, brought my drinks has a real job
>after the date was pretty adamant that she have my number and texted me to make sure it got through to me

Im really keen on this one and inside im now freaking out because its this window where things usually go to shit. They always act really keen anowd then a week later they are like "oh I got back with my ex" or "my best friend just proposed to me!" or "I moved some FUCKING GUY in from the states and decided to fuck him after a lifetime of fucking women"

how do I navigate this period without losing my fucking shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soJtF3F5t2k

>>39993633
Rent a woman Bradley. You're too old for this shit.

>>39993642
how did you guess my name

>>39993649
I'm your father you ditz why wouldn't I know your name

Midniight bump

>>39993633
It's fine to freak out 2 yourself just don't let that push her away, schedule a second date I'm happy for u

>>39992063
>I wish I was genuine enough to be with a real woman like you

stop fucking saying odd shit like this. no one, especially not cis women, want to hear this kind of stuff

>>39991496
rules state explicitly that reppers aren't allowed. manmoders aren't either. the t is pretty explicitly meant to be "trans women". no additional clarification needed.

>>39989033
yes. and we've had this conversation before. repper and/or moid bullshit is not tolerated here.

>>39986118
i fear this would work on me

>>39986070
stop repping
st4t is goated

>>39989943
>>39989956
cute but amity is canonically the trans one

>>39995002
Preach

>>39995002
>>39995026
>>39995039
>>39995052
terf flagger get out

>>39995335
So the flag specifically has been used by lesbians for decades, labrys anon is trans and hasn't said anything remotely terfy LOL

>>39995467
if someone flies a nazi flag i don't need to hear them say anything bad about jews to know they're still a piece of shit

>>39995296
Luz DEFINITELY wouldve come out as nonbinary given another season

>>39995695
It's not the same as a Nazi flag dipshit it's been used by lesbians for decades

>>39995815
Why would we care about luz?

>>39995002
I know I shouldn't say things like those but it's how I feel

>>39995831
nonbiney cis women are cute and valid

>>39995818
it's used by terfs and always has been

>>39991351
im aware its just depressing cuz i am afraid that me being significantly more obsessed with her than she is me will cause misery and sadness

>>39992063
im cis so im confused, my wife is trans, im the c in the c4t

>>39996020
yes that's what I meant fren

>>39996067
OHHHH sorry im stupid rn I havent slept, you WILL find cfem wife i will make sure of it

>>39996111
ty angel

I really want a relationship with another girl. But I need ffs before I can even look myself in the mirror.

QOTT: by not being homeless and having a financial future. By waiting desperately to get back on hrt which I've been off of for a year because life sucks.

>>39995838
It's fine to be open Abt ur insecurities u probably shouldn't saddle other ppl with them (by responding to them and saying like them)

>>39996182
U shouldn't stop anon

qott: gonna kiss my wife (real not clickbait)

>>39996212
you're right, but I like making sure they understand

I miss my wife so very dearly, I should ask her out but im very bad at being a girlfriend so im stuck in the purgatory of whatever this is as i don't want to fuck it up, this is very depressing, how to fix cowardice so I can fulfill c4t marriage ASAP? advice needed...

>>39996232
Wholly unnecessary

Definitely don't mention ur worms when u first talk to someone

>>39995335
im trans and im literally reclaiming it. its been a symbol of lesbian perseverance for decades. that doesnt change just because some terf retards decide that its theirs. im not just gonna sit down like a pussy and let them take it from us. also there's a literal terf flag on this board so if i really believed in anything like that i would just be using that one LMFAO

>>39996405
she wants you too. i think you just need to take the leap and tell her. my cis gf confessed their feelings for me thinking that they were way off base and by that time i was already heads over heels, just not sure if we felt the same. so im glad that they were brave enough to take the first step. hopefully this story will inspire you to do the same :3 lolz

>>39996781
Which one is the terf flag?

>>39997091
me

>>39996826
haaheuuughhhh ill ask to call today... and see if I dont pass out first

>>39997091

this one >>39997099

>>39996781
>im jewish and im literally reclaiming it. its been a symbol of bhuddist perseverance for decades. that doesnt change just because some wignat retards decide that its theirs. im not just gonna sit down like a pussy and let them take it from us. also there's a literal white pride flag on this board so if i really believed in anything like that i would just be using that one LMFAO

>>39997099
>genderqueer is the terf flag
deep

>>39997507
dumb non-equivalent is dumb. keep libbing out, it seems like it's really convincing everybody else. im sure there is nothing better to do than to yell at a trans lesbian who is reclaiming the labrys flag. that absolutely should be top priority in your life right now

>>39997507
Swastikas are regularly used still for eastern religions

>>39997507
Unironically me still using the Magen David in jewelry and other stuff even tho I hate the current Israeli regime

I know this sounds horribly insecure but I don't know why women (or women adjacent, however you want to put it) would be into trans women.

For men the reasoning is obvious, they're scared of women (and vaginas) and see women with a penis and go phew, she has what I have so I'm not scared and she'll play video games with me.
But cis (or whatever) women I don't know what the appeal is within us exactly.

>>39997840
Because you're your own person who is worthy of love

>>39997840
I had this brainworm also, before I actually started actually going to local lesbian events and making cisles friends.
The reality is that you are more then just your trans status. There are things about you as an individual that other women are going to find attractive.

Overly focusing on the trans aspect of yourself is undervaluing the woman aspect. Most cisles women really do not care much about the trans stuff anyway. Especially if you have the good taste to be into mascs.

>>39997840
when I was on a date with a theyfab fem or I'm not sure she kept saying how she didn't like men and how men keep asking her out but she doesn't want to and I lowkey felt attacked even though she's the one who reached out to me
I don't know why but I keep feeling like I'm part of the man group

>>39998281
how does one find out about lesbian events

>>39997840
some of you guys are really pretty and adorable especially the one that is my wife but I think its either previous experiences with tgirls, fetishism, or for me specifically I like tgirls and cis girls but prefer tgirls as cuz they literally Couldnt be men when forced into it and I have an extremely dislike for men including tguys especially tguys theyre probably the worst on average with insufferablity

>>39998425
wordswordswords the left can't meme

>>39998450
scratching my head

>>39998281
What if you're ugly

>>39997601
libshits like you can die, a real leftist would never be a terf

>>39997840
real

>>39998281
>There are things about you as an individual that other women are going to find attractive.
oh like what? my soldering skills? my pasty vampiric skin? my general lack of empathy for anything but animals and other trans people?

>>39998425
>fetishism
at least you admit it

>>39997840
cis women are the pearls of society, and we are merely swine
it is natural to assume ill intent if they pay you any mind from their throne

>>39998724
U could work on the empathy thing and expand ur interests

>>39998772
Get over urself

>>39998842
>U could work on the empathy thing
other people are gonna have to do some real fucking work to be worthy of empathy before that happens
>and expand ur interests
everything that isn't malebrained bores me
I like fashion but I make everything nice I wear and 0% of cis women sew anymore unless they're painfully trad and het

>>39998885
cis women see me like my mother did, only when I have misbehaved

>>39999000
>>39998772
You know sewing is actually a pretty interesting hobby and I see plenty of women on tumblr into clothesmaking
>>39998425
Hard to imagine other people, well cis people really, getting past the "transgender" part of us/me.
>>39998425
I guess that makes sense, though the other replies don't inspire a lot of confidence.
I actually do like tguys and wouldn't mind dating one provided we clicked.

>>39998724
its a thing yeah but i don't think im personally a fetishist, but everyone says that so who knows, wife doesn't care so neither do i

>>39999079
I think it depends a lot on the person, but i dont really see it as something to effect the relationship greatly yknow? I behave the same with my wife like ive done with other girls ive liked, cis and not cis alike

>>39999467
Attraction to people is definitionally not a fetish

>>39998696
bro lmao. i havent said one terfy thing. i dont believe in anything terfy. im much more radically pro trans than like 99% of this board. you're literally fighting air.

>>39999079
>Hard to imagine other people, well cis people really, getting past the "transgender" part of us/me.

this is your 4chan-inflicted brainworms talking. believe it or not you are more than just someone who is "trans." people will see you as more than that. the way some of you guys act like being trans is some kind of eternal punishment is ridiculous. if you stop making it a thing, it will stop being a thing. stop cucking yourself and live your life.

>>39999467
i dont think you are. i think there is a definitive threshold even between having a preference and having a fetish for that very thing. saying that you would prefer a transfem partner (not saying you do just an example) is not automically = you have a trans fetish. there's definitely a difference if you ask me. fetishists are not that concerned with the feelings of their targets.

>>39997840
you're just entirely thinking of it in terms of body types without any regard that a cis woman may just like a trans woman because she's nice, or interesting, or funny, or the millions of other reasons that people get together for.

>>39999989
You can't have a fetish for people it's for inanimate objects

i want one of you girls to push your tongue into my pussy as far as you can pretty please

>>39989452
She's really pretty
She mostly talked about her childhood in asia, cultural differences, etc
It was really interesting, I could have listened to her for days
>>39992063
Maybe she’s just shy?

>>39999922
>>40000066
I don't think it's brain worms, being transgender in a long term relationship is materially different from them having a cis partner. Maybe it's mildly brainwormed but not to an unreasonable extent
>>39999515
though maybe there are people like this.
I'm not exclusively into cis women/reppers just curious tho

>>40000418
How long has she been in the us

Are you okay with having your dick sucked? If not, what do you prefer in bed?

>>40000418
>Maybe she’s just shy?
It could be, but I specifically remember how she pretty much halted all contact suddenly after a week of us texting non-stop, since then we never really spoke for long

chat i found a really pretty cis girl that shares a lot of interests with me and i wanna bag herrrr

she's into jdm, fps games, and alt fashion >~<

>>40000207
not how that works.

>>40001524
well why are you posting about it on 4chan instead of rizzing her up wtf!

>>40000533
>being transgender in a long term relationship is materially different from them having a cis partner.

sure i will grant you that but that is not what the original comments that i was responding to were attempting to communicate lol. just because there are differences doesnt mean that healthy c4t is impossible. i think its actually the opposite. if done right c4t relationships will be much better for trans people in the long run than t4t relationships. just my opinion.

>>40001783
ive read the sexology literature on this yes it is. It's when normative sexual attraction (to people) is diverted to some other erotic interest

>>40001894
My perspective is consistent with the DSM, you can't have a fetish for people

>>40001794
im shy.. i'll see her tomorrow tho :33

>>40001524
Ohh nice anon

Is she into u too?

>>40001894
>>40001925

im not gonna argue with you about this because your position is obviously fucking retarded if you think about it for more than a second. obviously there's people who have a fetish for trannies, there's white people who have a fetish for black people, etc. this is clearly some cope of some kind that im not gonna engage with. you know you're wrong just as much as i know you are.

>>40002236
There are people who are weird/paraphilic about trannies and black people but that's not what a fetish is

The DSM and the papers which talk Abt fetish specifically classified a fetish as an inanimate objects or some nonsexual part of the body

Unsure what cope I'm on, I'm trans I'm not a chaser

>>40000533
Irrelevant like there are ppl who are ok with both and I are worthy of love if u allow urself to be

>>40001947
i hopeee, i talked to a friend about it and he's oddly encouraging me much more than he has with my past crushes :33

>>40002446
Do you think he'd have some more info?

do cis women like boring ugly transbians
asking for a friend

>>40002485
Thankfully being boring is something u can fix

Find some things that interest u I believe in u anon

>>40002470
i'll have to probe him a little, but i feel like he does loll

>>40002529
don't probe let it happen

talk more 2 ur crush idk if y'all hang out thats a start

how do i get a cis girlfriend if i'm too scared to go outside or talk to people

>>40003038
address ur fears of being too afraid to go outside to talk to people

>>40003503
but i have no social desire other than intimate relationships and i'd probably have to make a lot of friends to get better at socializing and then i'd have to spend a lot of time doing that and i'm a neet with no available pretense to socialize

>>40003545
trust meee

this is like science, on average women are less dependent on relationships bcs they have platonic intimacy which fulfills some of that plus ur partner is going to want u to have interests of ur own

>>40003625
i have interests of my own they just don't involve other people

>>40003657
i just think external socialization is healthy and will probably help ur love life thats all

bump before bed

sorry to crosspost but can some of you anons weigh in on >>40003596

it's a dumb hangup and desu i'm probably only thinking about it to distract from my shit family life but i'd love to get advice from people that have lived through this scenario

>>39985866 (OP)
What about cis men that date (or want to date) trans girls?

>>39985866 (OP)
I'd like a cis gf but only to raise a child with, but I'm scared she'd back out and leave me for a cis person, taking full custody of the child and leaving me with a life of child support payments. I don't trust a cis woman to not become a TERF as soon as the baby blues come.

>>40006626
Since 99% of people that post here are autism-adjacent which translates to poor social awareness and are often times isolated, I want to inform you that straight/bi women and lesbians are 2 very different demographics.

>become a TERF
Most terfs are straight, if you meet one that's a lesbian she's on par with a nazi jew.

So a word of advice if you are looking for a relationship with a woman, please, only look for lesbians. Anything else won't work out.

>>40006626
>I don't trust a cis woman to not become a TERF
idk sounds like ur focusing too much on ur findom cuck fantasy

if u trusted this woman enough to have a child with her, then this thought shouldn't even enter ur mind

>>40007150
this bitch gets it, probably fucks mad hoes too

Finally talking with a trans girl. It seems like she's interested. Should I tell her I'm a repressor?

>>40006626
literal incel tier post

>>40008019
do it so you ether any chance of her letting you hit lol

>>40008019
a repper told me this once but then he ended up with a straight boyfriend, sad...

I wanna date a butcher and high femme like myself both together

I almost lost my arms but I wanna be an art teacher

Im watching American dad how about everyone else what are you all up to?

>>40008019
I'd say do it but if she gives any bullshit about noo don't ruin your wombynyly afab body why would anyone want to look male then drop her.
Hopefully she emapthizes with your dysphoria which is what I think any trans person would want in a relationship between two of us

>>40009120
sound advice

>>40009120
you guys are genuinely so deranged. you're beyond saving. clearly the trans woman would be in the wrong there not the weirdo being like hey btw im heavily identifying myself based on repressing my dysphoria to the point that it has become my entire personality lol.

>>40009287
it's not a question of being in the wrong. it's a question of whether you're going to receive empathy from this hypothetical person. you're the one project a value judgement

>>40009287
I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic. Actually how the actual fuck are you transgender and accusing anyone else of "making X thing their whole identity" like we don't have that accusation hurled at us constantly. It's not anyone's place to dictate what someone's relationship to their dysphoria and how it affects their life should be.

And yes trans women are in the wrong when they say that and you can look for two seconds and see this isn't an uncommon experience for FtMs/Femreppers to have. If you can't have a just a basic amount of empathy why are you even here.

Femrepper talk does not belong here

Female gender dysphoria is off topic

id date one but id also affirm him into trooning

>>40009926
why are you trying to turn this into lagogen

>>40008019
>Telling trannies that you’re a repressor
Lol retard

>>40009951
I'm not, I'm trying to keep us on topic

I'm not saying any c4t woman is unwelcome here but female gender dysphoria isn't relavent

>>40009948
This is st4t and off topic

should i put my honself on her
i dont know where to find cisles events

>>40010289
Don't call urself honself and don't use dating apps generally (sent here from gehenns)

Idk Abt lesbian events you'd have to ask someone else

Honestly kinda sick off all the self deprecation it kinda brings everyone down

>>40010318
should i put my she/her self on her

>>40010428
No dating apps are bad, lesbian ones are especially fucked

>>39994855
she asked me out on a second date :)

Also ive started listening to extended mixes of 80s new wave rather than contemporary lesbian pop now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q84psZX6MbA

>>40010790
congrats nona

>>40010790
Cute where are y'all going

Mid thread QoTT:

What do you look for in a partner, what are some things you really want out of an ltr what are some things you want to avoid.

Character traits and whatnot

>>40011868
Doesn't watch porn
Shares values and general life direction
Has some creative interest and at least one academic interest

>>40011868
quirked up white girl, goated with the sauce

>>40011868
I'd like to add to this by asking the cisf frens ITT, is money a big issue for your ideal partner? Are you fine with dating poor transwomen?

>>40013031
>is money a big issue for your ideal partner?
No
>Are you fine with dating poor transwomen?
Yes

>>40013506
that's reassuring

>>40013031
I'd like to date someone who has their life together

>>40014188
that's understandable and I hope you live happily with rich passoids

Would a qt nerdy, submissive and under 5’9 transbian date a cisf butch if she was fat, a loser, a sadist, a porn-addict and was a virgin? Other cis lesbians are repulsed by me. Not even a chaser I just don’t wanna die alone

>>40014374
I'm a nerdy 5'4 trans lesbian that is into butches.
>fat
Not a negative.
>loser
Subjective.
>sadist
A positive.
>porn-addict
Maybe a positive?
>virgin
Neutral really.

>>40014374
I'm not short but porn is a no for me, it's against my values, maybe if you're trying to quit.

>>40014511
When I say this I'm talking Abt live action videos, if u meant anything else I don't care

>>40014374
>a sadist
this one sounds a little scary

im going to hangout with a cisf coworker when she talked about it to another coworker she called it a date and she thought i was gonna ask if we could kiss when i asked if we could smoke and said that she was "waiting for me to ask that (to kiss) for so long" but i think that was to either be funny or sarcastic and when she left she ran her hand across my back and she also put a fucking leash on me like two weeks ago what are the chances i make out with her, we are going to a park and smoking weed

>>40014374
>Other cis lesbians are repulsed by me
I honestly don't even get why. You do not sound that weird and have some positive qualities.
>I just don’t wanna die alone
So are you actually into trans women or is this more a desperation thing?
Nobody wants to be a desperate backup.
>>40014571
I think there is a chance you could be misreading things here. I'm pretty flirty with my friends, but I'm just messing around.
I would personally just go along with things and see if she actually does make a move and try to kiss you. If she does, she is into you. If not, she is messing around with you.

>>40014374
>a porn-addict
I need to know this too. I love tranny porn a way too much.

>>40014691
That is worrying anon. Depending on what you are into.

>>40014374
>under 5'9
:(
id be willing to if you were willing to stop consuming porn

>>39985866 (OP)
i love my trans wife!!!!!!!!!!

>>40014691
Like videos with people?

>>40014821
Awww love u guys

how do you prep for sex

>>40015341
There are plenty of guides out there. But it is pretty unpleasant.
I cannot wait for srs.

>>40015341
Poopsex or just hands and oral

>>40015341
> piv
eat her out a bit till shes wet

>>40014527
It’s mainly just doujins, eroge, drawings, and sometimes leaked only fans shit

I do jerk off to guro and ryona often though. And I draw my own hentai and it’s all that type of shit. Do u think that’d be a turn-off? I’m worried about that desu

>>40015910
Guro is weird. But not unforgettable.
I would be interested in seeing some of your drawings desu.

>>40015910
cut the onlyfans shit and we'll get along swimmingly if ur otherwise respectful of boundaries

>>40014701
Anything with trannies
>>40015221
Yes

>>40015950
ryona might be a bit too much for me but like

case by case i'd have to see what ur vibe is

>>40014635
Cis dykes r actually incredibly picky I find. Their standards are too high for me to meet. Maybe repulsion is too strong of a word, but they wouldn’t date me thats for sure.

And yes I’m into transwomen. I prefer cis I won’t lie, but trans girls are hot too. Fine ethier way. Transbians seem to have lower standards than cisbians, so that’s kind of why I’m thinking about it

>>40015993
what would u say are the standards for cisbians that ur unable to meet?

>>40015993
Well you really do not have any obvious red flags. So I can only assume you have had to deal with some hyper picky circles types.

Being butch and into short, nerdy, suby trans women is a pretty massive plus personally.

>>40015993
i'll also say i think the standards for c4t transwomen tend to be higher than other trans women

alot of us are anti-porn and i do get icked out by alot of extreme paraphilias personally

>>40015982
Feels borderline transphobic that even though im bi Im unbothered by ftms/femreppers watching tranny porn compared to cis guys
If it was a really shy sensitive cis guy watching tranny porn and I knew him maybe i wouldnt be bothered.
'm not bovvered

>>40015982
no from me

maybe if u stopped if u started dating me or switched to drawn/smut

bump before bed

>>40002835
update:we're going to a concert :D

>>40017109
Yayy

>>40016003
Probably not being a degenerate or being very romantic. Most cis lesbians I’ve known kind of hate any sexual deviance or attraction that reminds them of men, or the ‘male gaze’ I’m also just kinda not very romantic at all desu, yearning isn’t for me
>>40016038
Thank u anonette
>>40016053
Sad if true

bump

>>40018682
Morning bunl

>>40017448
>Not romantic
Definitely not for me

I had such an intense dream last night
My gf and I were back in our highschool years, and we were complete strangers on a new class, standoffish at first and then slowly warming up to each other as we get to know each other more week after week, until eventually we started dating again, in a similar fashion to how we initially started dating
I love my girlfriend so fucking much sisters, it's unreal, even my subconscious makes me fall for her over and over and over again

>>40019880
Make sure you tell her this every day

>>40019892
There's no way in hell I could tell her something this embarassing, I'd die on the spot, nona
I do tell her I love her every day, but if I were to say it in such a saccharine overly sweet way I'd genuinely drop dead right then and there

>>40019986
I'd die and hold her so fucking close if someone told it to me

I can't wait to be married

>>40020199
Fuuuuck FINE I'll tell her about my embarassing stupid gay dream

>>40020330
Let us know how it goes

Thinking about how I used to awkwardly crossdress in high school and wear the same shitty skirt over and over again daily I want to blow my brains out

>>40021626
Ur not alone nona u grow and u learn

>>40011868
Isn't stuck up
Wants to spend time with me
Wants sexy times
Has interests of her own

>>40022566
>Stuck up
Misogyny...

>>40016056
>Feels borderline transphobic
What?
>>40016071
drawn/smut doesn't do it for me

>>40024605
Sorry nona values r values

>>40024605
Retardation I wrote while a little drunk, basically that if I was more principled I would be bothered by any type of person watching tranny porn

>>40023305
There are people like that.

>>40024930
Feels weird

>>40020996
She wants to write fanfiction of our OCs in that situation now
So it went really well

>>40027083
U have to share it with us when it comes out

>>40027517
if I did that, she'd kill me, everyone in this thread, and then herself out of pure embarassment
And I wouldn't blame her

>>40024858
>I would be bothered by any type of person watching tranny porn
But why

>>40028169
I dunno gives people preconceived notions even moreso than for regular women, for some people literally the only trannies they see are in porn

>>40028169
see general critiques of how porn harms women and apply them to trannies

I need a passing sexed up apg irl futa to cum buckets in my pussy I’m ovulating so hard rn

>>40028964
wish i wasn't bottom dysphoric so i could take up all of these offers

wish the thread was more like the discord, we're having cute discussions of medieval pixel art

>>40029172
What if I tied u up the. blind folded and used ur body? Maybe fed u a little ecstasy?

>>40029307
i'd hate myself but it'd be a bit hot if you also degraded me for being xy

that works

>>40029317
Could I get on top grinding on you as I call you disgusting male. Keep using u until I cum hard all over you. It’s be cute if we’re crying during it.

>>40029515
that would be really horrifying i'd cry yeea, i'd probably get a bit confused too if you held my hand through it

maybe if you got off really nicely and praised me after please?

>>40029624
I cum reallly hard. Id praise u for being such a good fuck toy. With plenty of cuddles and head pats

>>40029651
Squirming and moaning a bit thinking about it

Please get off to me I'll be so good for you

bump before bett

>>40029765
If u get on your kneees and beg for it after I’ve came. It cute to see you get all pathetic for me.

boop

Bump

that larp is pretty gas. god i wish cis women were real

>>40030109
I'd be so flustered tooo, a bit violated but if I did a good job for you

If you're still here do you have a discord

QoTD:

Favorite historical time period

>>40033525
1920s for fashion and aesthetics. I think the weird lanky silhouettes are so trannycore I hope I can one day be 1/10 as chic as a flapper heiress.

>>40035160
Flappers are pretty cool but I'm vv obsessed with classical history, I have a friend who was really into industrial textiles too

do you have emergency pads in your bag as a courtesy

>>40035339
Lmao no I have never

>>40035339
I don't no should I it's never come up so I imagine I'd never need to

>>40035499
It came up once for me, back in 2019 this high schooler I was working with asked me for one, probably as a joke or something, it’s actually pretty funny tbhon

>>40035576
Where were you working at?

I'm a clocky twinkhon (I guess) or at best very andro, I can't really make any trans friends (I have like... 2 transfem friends and the other one is insane/flaky actually...they are both kind of insane but only one is flaky) they are friends in that I have borrowed stuff from them or stayed over at their houses before.

I mostly have cisles or cisbi friends who are girls or they thems afab's....

mostly cisles tho. idk why transfems no like me but honestly I'm kind of more into cisbi women I guess (cisles but I don't feel like I pass enough even tho I got dem cute titties)

I haven't dated anyone in over a year and a half ;...( I feel fucking unlovable and absolute shitty. How long must this lonely life go on?!?

>>40036575
I'm the same situation, I'd say try to make yourself available you'll find someone soon

>>39985866 (OP)
Portland 30 mtf
Reply for disc tag if u want it

Every time I try to call my cis girly friends cute I fail and say something retarded :(

>>40037849
hahahaha Ive BEEN available AAAAAAAHHHHHH DATING SCENE IN LA IS LIVING FUCKING NAPALM HELLLLLLL

>>40037913
give examples, so that we might learn from your folly

>>40038116
So just last night we were at the club and someone was calling my looks cute and stuff and I just said back ya and gloated about me instead of calling them cute n stuff to. Also there was this cute mega passing trans gurl that I had the opportunity to compliment and even sang songs she wanted me to sing since I liked shrek but I only agreed to do it and then she got with another friend in our group kisses and all. I feel like that coulda been me. I am a failure to the modern dating scene.

>>40038191
Nothing a bit of reflection can't fix

Just be conscious

>>40039393
I've been trying to reflect and all that. I have been more sociable at least ever since IDing as a girl but still always reach a wall when trying to flirt. Though not that my last 2 relationships helped with that at all.

>>40035339
a girl told me I should do this when I came out as whatever I am a few years back, and I wasn't sure at first but in retrospect she was absolutely dunking on me and just being an asshole lmao

>>39989248
yes i have gauges, spider bites, nostril and eyebrow. i generally prefer girls i like to also have sum face metal
>>39989611
this combo makes me weaak af

>>40037860
>Portland
I wish you weren't so far away you're cute as fuck

>>40032865
A little too shy to share that for now. But curious on what an easily flustered girl like you looks like?

It's literally do hit to rape men.

>>40040141
So hot*

>>40039880
don't know how exactly to describe myself but my cheeks are pretty naturally flushed and if you tease me enough they start to hurt...

i'm pretty tall and i have wide hips though

>>40040141
men are off topic

>>40037860
NORDSTROM RACK

>>40040251
Id definitely tease you because of your height I’m on the shorter side . It u started cry then I’d start consoling you. Wide hips sound fun to grab.

>>40040743

New bread

>>40040715
I'm not that insecure about my height though I used to be. I had someone pull me down to kiss me once and it did something to me.