QOTT- Why are you people so fucking bad at making new threads?
QOTT 2- Do you feel like you have some kind of any social responsibility or obligations as a queer person?

>>39992646 (OP)
you have nowhere to judge thread making skills

Riddle me this, trans men. I previously wanted to be ftfemboy. I love femboys. But have realized I can't be one. Why? Because when I see cis femboys it's all good! But once I see feminine traits on trans men and think about which ones will likely stay when I'm on T I get angry and disgusted. Being a femboy suddenly isn't so appealing because I can only see the femaleness of my body maybe?

It doesn't make sense. I want a femboy body but only if I'm cis??? What??? Being ftm gives me cheat codes to it and suddenly it's unappealing??? Suddenly I'd rather be a bear??? What???? Tf is my issue

>>39993658
gloves i think i;m madly in love with you

>>39992646 (OP)
i wish i could fall asleep properly

>>39993747
that's kinda real, i just want to be seen as a crossdressing man but despite my feminine traits being seen as desirable by femboys i can't help but feel like people see me as just a woman dressing fem. maybe once i'm on t longer i'll stop feeling that way
>>39993886
also real, my meds got changed and now i'm not tired. i'm drinking chamomile tea and hoping for the best rn

>>39992646 (OP)
this thread is already dying so what are yalls favorite movies. mine is videodrome

if anyone here has a decent amount of facial hair how long did it take to grow? i'm not even a year on t so i know it'll take time but i'm impatient and want to know how much time

>>39993747
on a purely looks level this advice doesn't help but just voice train and take t
i'm too lazy to voice train but after 2 years on t people gender me male. i still keep my long hair and wear womens clothes so i still get called a woman sometimes but usually they apologize and call me sir after hearing me speak

>>39993747
it might be dysphoria warping your perception of general femininity as presented in males and females, or because of the stigma against ftfemboys in the trans community. either way it sucks what you're going through
>>39994026
my favorite has been a clockwork orange ever since i was 13

>>39993747
Simple. Women always want things they can't have, stupid fucking roastie. Lol

>>39993758
how specifically? i don't want to encourage parasocial stuff but i'm curious

>>39994512
i miss being parasocial with a different ftm that barely knows i exist so i'm trying to shift it to someone else

>>39994184
Why you so bitter?
>>39994512
If he gets to be in love with you I want to be in love with you, too

>>39993747
>See feminine traits on trans men
you sound like a very confused, kind of mysoginistic genderfluid. It's okay to do whatever you want if it makes you happy. Fuck other people's opinions, you can be a FtFemboy one day and a bear the next if you want. No one can really stop you. I see how body and facial hair could be a hurdle but like. It's not that serious.

>>39993886
Me too I just stay awake until I am too exhausted and pass out
>>39993906
I dealt with this for a long time, trying to force myself to be as masc as possible. But I would still think about dressing in fem clothes every day, lamenting my sad existence as if my clothes were some kind of untouchable treasure that will never be mine, viewing femininity as some kind of dirty secret or disease to be exterminated. But realistically everyone has varying degrees of fem and masc from how the fetus develops in utero. It's not a bad or shameful thing to be a bit more feminine than your neighbor if that is what makes you happy.
>>39994026
Creep

>>39993906
>>39995297
>noooo my fun fem clothes nooo
Welcome to any hope of being seen as male. Now get to work, slave.
Simp for women.
Work until you die in utilitarian attire and no real self-expression.

>>39994545
i can sort of see where you're coming from desu
>>39994547
based

>>39995322
I'm nonbinary you dumbass. It's literally right there.

>>39995322
that sounds pretty nice tbhdesu

speaking of enbies, what does /ftmg/ think of ftmtnbs?

>>39995367
not ftm they're just their own thing

>>39995367
I'll hang around for a Q & A if anyone is curious
>t. ftmtnb aka hrt enby

>>39995367
not real and they'll eventually just be regular ftm in the end

>>39995367
reppers who call themselves nonbinary to cope are rather cringe but ftm enbies are typically just people trying to figure themselves out

>>39993658
you look like a fat hobbit

>>39995766
hey. that's my fat hobbit. actually kill yourself.

g'morning doods

https://vocaroo.com/12sDFjusK1Su

>>39995403
Are you single?

>>39995875
I'm engaged

i think im repulsed by the smell of fully black pooners...i love sucking their bbcs (big black clits) and all but their body smell is just so harsh on my nose. i rejected sucking my friends dick last night despite being hype about doing it again half because i couldnt handle his scent being on me again after already having sucked another black tdick earlier and having to basically deodorize my room because of it
does this count as self hatred or something? i like how other black people smell usually but black trans niggas just cant fucking wash for some reason...

>>39993747
Because a cis femboy is breaking gender norms, its rebellious in some sense, its COOL. While with an ftm femboy you immediately think its just a dillusional woman, no matter what the reality may be that is the first thing the majority of people will think. You at least subconsciously realize it and the desire to be seen as a male outshines whatever desire you have for wanting to be a femboy would be my guess

>>39992646 (OP)
>want a haircut
>current haircut hides my foid neck and skull but also makes me look like an ugly girl and not masc at all
>any shorter makes me look more masculine but also exposes my foid neck and skull AND bad hairline
should i just die
>>39993747
you sound like you just want to be as far away from biofemale as possible. cis femboys are seen as male because they're male despite dressing fem. a bear is seen as male because he's male. if you wear feminine clothes you're not subverting anything, nobody's going to see your male essence or soul or whatever. bearmaxx, twinks are hugely overrated and boring.

>>39996083
also i havent fucked a fully black cis guy yet for true comparison but mixed black cis and trans guys dont have the same body odor issue from what i can tell

>>39996083
this isn't unique to black trans men, trans men refuse to bathe. theres an entire threads on reddit of trans guys talking about not showering to maximize ''man aura''

>>39994184
>Simple. Women always want things they can't have,
pretty much this. cis women want their cake, to eat it and throw it at men too. women are raised to be entitled to everything

>>39996107
ages ago i think someone in some corner of the internet said that not showering makes you visually pass better (lolwut) and it hit the ftm community like crack in a lower class neighbourhood in the 80s

>>39993747
>Femboy
cringe, take the bishounenpill and larp as griffith / kurama

>>39996104
Just get PLAPPED already and squeeze out some grandkids

It's JOEVER for you

>>39996107
>>39996163
nah this is straight up their natural smell im talking about, ive showered with one if these dudes, watched them scrub their dick and all, and still lowkey gagged nose deep in his pubes while sucking him off

>>39995823
gemerald, whats the original song?

>>39996211
>watched him scrub his dick
>didn't scrub it for him

>>39996211
medical condition maybe?

>>39995766
unlike hobbits though i'm 5'8, which compared to most doods makes me a giant
>>39996104
i relate on the bad hairline, i'm just growing out my hair until i can get fin and hope it helps despite it being semi-fucked pre-t
>>39995367
i have no problem with them

>>39996211
All scent no taste? The pubes may be the issue

>>39996083
>refuses to suck a big smelly black tdick
I watch others drown whilst I myself am parched

Pee pee poo poo
Smells like shit
Oh you know I got this dick
Off Etsy, eBay, Amazon
Holy fuck is this my dong
Silicon and stench of piss
Better hope I can take a whizz
Suddenly warm, panic insuing
Press it harder, can't stop pissing
Freaking out now
Shoes are squishing, liquid is dripping
Down
Your
Leg
Start to cry, hope is lost
Wet stain might as well be a cross
Adult diaper, infantilizing
Trying to piss it's dehumanizing
Tits, back
Especially the ass crack
Full of hair, it's a jungle
Diving in like a professional
Killing minions, say hi to Ahri
Ammonia, proteins, ureter
Is this really my inevitable future
Stab my thigh, shoot it up
Shaking crying throwing up
Tgirl left the date already
Humiliation, rinse and repeat
I just want to Stand To Pee
Dragging home, dripping wet
Suicidal threat
Can't live it down, so much money
For a plastic dick that can't aim properly
Rub my scars, spank my ass
Call me good girl but don't tell my dad
Trans masculine alien thought form
Dissociating from schizophreniform
Just wanted to pee, so much to ask?
Detransition just to save your ass

>>39996624
is this iron man by black sabbath

>>39992646 (OP)
qott: idk, gloves usually makes them in a timely fashion
qott2: nah, but i help out the mtfs as much as possible
>>39994026
i watched trash humpers recently, would recommend
>>39994087
4-5 year mark was when there was significant facial hair for me
>>39995367
i did this when i moved from a less accepting suburbs to a city with lots of trannies + living in a house of trans people. It was more so to "experiment with my queerness" than actually being nb. it was fun to larp as an average queer in a queer city. Im ftmtnbtm since moving out of that house/city cause i most align with being a man and desu the nb phase was sorta AGP induced
>>39995418
yeah basically

>>39996624

I'd let a smoove ftm fuck me in the butt, dudes. any of you know where TP (ed sheerans twin) is these days?

>>39996563
>The pubes may be the issue
in linking with guys both cis and trans ive noticed that im the only one who actively keeps their pubes at a close shave, everyone else likes to have some kind of a bush
trans guys always have large bushes that cover their dicks if its not big and the coarseness of black pubes probably is keeping a lot of funk locked in

>>39997376
>keeping a lot of funk locked in
you say this like it's a bad thing

>>39997376
i just finished rewatching gravity falls and now i can't seem to stop seeing it everywhere

>tfw no ftm boyfriend who looks very similar to me and who'll introduce himself as my brother or cousin so it'll be funny when we kiss

can I crash with y'all for a bit
also how did I do on my list
>>39996489
get on minoxidil, even if it says "not for hairline" regrowth they're lying

>>39998073
Desu all pooners should drink rogaine regardless of hair loss status because it helps with body hair growth

>>39994087
I'm finally starting to accumulate a decent amount at almost 3 years in, I see some luckshits grow a good beard within 2 years and others never grow one. Its all genetics.
>>39996107
Honestly I think this only applies to white poons. The more faggy or femboy ones don't act like slobs either from what i've noticed. I like being sweaty but only when i've been working out hard at the gym
>>39992646 (OP)
>qott2
Not as a "queer" person (I think queer as an identity is kind of a psyop considering cis gay people are queer too and cissoids are often shitty) but as a trans person yeah kinda. Not super big into doing activism but I would like to do something to help out my local community, if only I knew how exactly to do it

>>39994184
Nah Flux's take seems much closer to reality for me. Ironically I've been told I don't act entitled enough to pass as a man but that is surely because of how I was raised (mothers emotional cum dump and physical packmule)

>>39999341
I think being raised a certain way due to being afab in particular cultures or with insane parents kinda prevents you from developing a sense of entitlement because youre not allowed to have anything for yourself at all

>>39996104
Honestly i only started wanting to be a femboy in recent years too so I think you're on to something. I think perhaps partially I've confused my attraction to femboys and the hype around them for a want to be them. Previously I thought it was a cope out of fear of not passing.

Either way I consistently find that I don't truly want to be one. I do however want to be desired but it's in thar cringe "bitches love me" and "He's so protective" way not the "plow me daddy" way.

Which is an issue because this falls apart for most people due to lack of a real dick

>>39999398
99% of afabs are the most entitled people on the planet.

>>40000249
Aww, who's daddy's little attention seeker? Here you go lil bro have a (You)

>>40000274
typical foid response.

new to 4chan, not new to being trans. i only found out about pooners several months ago, was utterly repulsed until i realized only a deranged ftm could come up with such a thing. do you embrace the label or reject it? or are certain ftms not poons?

>>40000301
Awwww baby is so cute and womanly today, being so catty

>>40000249
notice how I specifically said
>afab in particular cultures or with insane parents
but you're probably a troll

>>40000926
Originally pooner was supposed to mean a nonpassing ftm (our equivalent of hon) but now its used as a general way to refer to us. Idk if ftms came up with the term tho

>>40000926
I think poon is pretty specific
>pinkish skin due to acne, sunburn, or being overweight
>too many piercings
>exaggerated "womanly" features like wide hips
>dyed hair
As long as youre not committing too many of these sins, you are not a pooner

>>40000959
>>40000926
yeah it feels like a teasing endearing way to poke fun at each other when a ftm called another ftm a pooner/poon/poonbro. it originally meant nonpassing like hon and i think when amabs use the term on us its to say we're non passing/all ftms are nonpassing women

>>40000926
Pooner is for non passing ftms but some people use it generally anyway, so you kind of have to guess what they mean based on context it used to be a bigger meme a couple of years ago

>>40000926
I don't think it's possible to pinpoint who came up with the term

>>40000942
fuck you

>>40000959
>>40000977
>>40000991
What they said, its pretty obvious since they are exaggerated caricatures, but it was meant to be for the non-passers/"hefabs" as it is, but its just used as a general word for FtMs on here now.

>>40001030
Yes you can, I looked it up on the archives a while ago. Forgot who it was, but you can just search "pooner" and go to the earliest results and see who originally popularized it

>>40001101
Archive only has posts from 2014 they added /lgbt/ in 2013

>>39999341
i've never been wrong.

pooner predates /tttt/ you goddamned newfags

>>40001314
for reference, I've posted here since 2009 and that terminology was already a thing on /b/s reverse trap threads

>>40001237
Holy newfag.. you do know all the pooner drawings and such only started a couple years ago? Why on earth would you be looking back to 2013/4?

>>40001330
Quite obviously theyre talking about the word "pooner" in reference to FtMs/the pink caricatures, its not like the word itself was invented here of course. Poon/pooner is just a term for a vagina anyway, so not surprising it wouldve been used in a different way on those threads

>>40001399
I was talking about when the term originated dumbass no one cares about your silly little drawings

>>40001030
''pooner'' was popularized here around 2018ish, but as >>40001314 said its existed for awhile with various meanings, one which is coincidentally funny

>>40001418
What on earth are you talking about, theyre the same thing faggot, the term "pooner" for ftms got popular around the same time as the drawings, thats what they are based on mong. Like >>40001427 said, it started around 2018, and yes the word existed in different ways before then but thats irrelevant because they were talking about when ftm pooner originated

Someone asked if my younger brother was my dad, fuck my heckin pooner life

>>40001612
babyx3 proclaimed to have been the first one to draw and popularize pooners

>>40001399
found them on kiwi farms on the pooner zoo thread. a lot of negative words for trans people seem to be created by trans people and co-opted by those who hate us.

time to go to bed again knowing this will never be me.

>>40002171
at least you don't have a vagina

>>40002185
I suppose, I'm a switch not a top though, I'd be able to cope somewhat.

Does anyone know who the fattest ftm man in the world is?

>>40002264
Gloves

>>40002290
i've seen a two ftms fatter than gloves each probably 300ish pounds, but theres gotta be a real planet out there over 800lbs whos ftm.

I know that person would lurk a site like this, show yourself

>>40002316
every other person in 'trans masc' discords is like 500 pounds

>>40002171
You're conventionally attractive though

>>40002358
is it worth it joining them to pick up ftms

>>40002458
they are all teenagers usually, if not they're in relationships. I can't find a normal server for the life of me so idk what you might want

>>40002578
>they are all teenagers usually
like 13 year olds or 18 year olds
>normal server
wdym by this

I made a trans guy cum last night. Sucked his t-dick and he was moaning last crazy till he squirted on the bed. Was incredible!

>>40003152
gross. sex is gross and you should feel bad for doing it.

>>40002264

>>39992646 (OP)
Big hairy guys and they got no dick to fuck my ass? What's the deal?