>be me 3 years ago, 22 y/o somewhat masc transgirl just got my hormone prescription
>happen upon this place through Reddit or something
>face post like the mentally ill attention whore that I was
>get some positivity but mostly have people tell me it’s over in the /CIPG/ and passgens
>tell me I’m going to be a gigahon late shit bc I started at 22 and all kinds of terrible lies
>fast forward 3 years
> pass well enough and am pretty enough to have cis-boyfriend
>am stealth in my day to day life and stealth to my boyfriend’s parents

You little rascals almost made me kill myself haha. Made the first few years of my transition unnecessarily hard.

This is a plea to all the early HRT girls to leave this place and focus on building community IRL. You will be ok I promise and this place can do nothing but harm you.

Also fuck you Joe in particular. You’re the only one I hope never gets to leave this retched place.

>>40004665 (OP)
I wish I had a stealth and pretty trans girlfriend

>>40004665 (OP)
what if im on here and im already stealth and have a bf and i still hate myself

>>40004692
I guess this is rationally good to hear as a 22 y/o who started HRT this year and feels suicidal and has a masculine face and proportions ;_;

>>40004731
Wrong tag, meant to reply to OP's post, sorry

>>40004731
People literally called me a chad before transitioning. You’ll be fine girl, I promise. Don’t listen to anything your brain tells you this first year. Focus on yourself and build connections with other transwomen IRL if possible. It makes all the difference
>>40004719
Idk get therapy and ponder if you hate yourself for reasons other than being trans but are projecting it onto your transness

>>40004761
>People literally called me a chad before transitioning. You’ll be fine girl, I promise. Don’t listen to anything your brain tells you this first year.
Thank you. I hope you're right.
>Focus on yourself and build connections with other transwomen IRL if possible. It makes all the difference
How can I do that if I live as a man and don't know anyone trans IRL? I have one semester left of college, but I'm staying with my parents right now, and I'm never coming out to them.

>>40004761
i plan to start therapy soon. i think i definitely do and am

>>40004777
At first dating apps like Taimi and Lex, maybe Bumble. That’s a good place to meet trans girls even if you aren’t particularly into girls it can help you develop a network of IRL people and help you learn about events. I boy/manmoded most of my first year but would go to trans events in girl mode. Definitely helped prepare me for when I could girl mode full time. If you’re in a bigger city, some places have support groups and they those can be helpful when you’re early HRT

Also I hope you can come out to your parents someday. I thought I’d never be able to come out to mine, but they surprised me and are now a source of support.

You’re just starting your life. Have grace and patience with yourself. You will grow into who you want to be

>>40004665 (OP)
thanks anonette :)
i started recently at 22 and this is hopefuel

probably you dont pass I think

>>40004665 (OP)
why you hate joe

>>40004665 (OP)
okay but i'm not a luckshit. you posted this pretending to be hopefuel but it's the opposite. stop flexing

>>40005709
Think what you want but I pass well enough to be stealth to my boyfriend’s entire family, who I’ve met multiple times.
>>40005831
Nobody here called me a luckshit when I first started lmao. I’m not flexing, I’m telling you that it’s going to be ok and to just give yourself time

>>40006918
pic? if you can go stealth as a lateshit with a bad starting point yeah you got lucky retard

>>40004665 (OP)
>Been here since I was 15
>Am now 3 years HRT (21)
>Still dont pass

best advice for anyone reading this is to stop boy/manmoding and stop using this website. you are NOT helping yourself. the quicker you start presenting how you want to present the quicker you'll start to feel comfortable in your own skin and expressing yourself. Repressing your identity while grovelling in your own misery will not improve your life or mental health. go out and meet other lgbt people, bond through common sperg interests which I know you all have (I recommend music, all gay people like music), and you’ll start to build a support network of people who care about you and who are not deep net freaks. You will get through this, and you will be happy one day. You just have to work at it. I would also strongly suggest not interacting with anyone on this website through any other social media, you will get doxed.

>>40007201
some of us do actually boy/manmode for a reason, not just out of choice

>>40007201
Yeah people typically don't want to present like a hon so they pick the lesser of two evils

>>40004731
Literally its the bones, your body hair skin and fat will do their thing at any age. Unless you have a gorilla skeleton you can probably pull it off just fine.

>>40004665 (OP)
People used to tell me I'm gmi when i first was here, got hrt, got caught, had to go off hrt for like 1.5 years, now everybody tells me it's over. My face has masculinised so much.

>>40007337
What specifically got more masculine about it? Most face stuff can be worked around with clever fashion sense or girl chemicals, its the skull that will fuck you.

>>40007365
My face has gotten wider and my chin bigger and eyes smaller. Idk how to describe it without the pictures but it's very obvious the change in those 1.5 years very clearly went from boy to man.

>>40007452
Well shit, what age did it happen at? They have surgeries for that but probably expensive and idk anything about them.

>>40004665 (OP)
I'm an actual manmoder

>>40007473
19, face hit twinkdeath at fucking 19

>>40007485
I've seen trannies with male skulls that look alright, its not good for passing but its not the end of the world. Like i said if you make it big in meth dealing or go to college you could get FFS

>>40007507
It is the end of the world when even when my face was good i was told "ok so you're body is looking very rough but with a good face and voice you might make it"

>>40004665 (OP)
spreading hopefuel is fighting the good fight, bless you babe
everyone can pass with enough effort and time

>>40007514
ehhhh use your best judgement then, make sure its not mental illness making it seem hopeless it tends to do that

when i'm out in the world and not on the computer, i always get ma'am and dear
homeless people approach me?
>excuse me, ma'am
ordering something
>here you go, ma'am
go to a bar
>sorry ladies, i'm going to need to see some ID
just dont believe this website
this website exists for shitposting and being a faggot, if you take anything seriously aside from hrtgen you're the biggest retard imaginable
and if you use the lingo? you're a stupid cunt

This shithole told me I looked like a hon when I was 19 and seeking advice in cipg. Fuck you all made me rep for a few years

>>40007590
that's because cis people are typically nicer and less critical of presentation than trannies

>>40007590
>>40007597
Is all this shit pushed by people trying to scare children into trooning faster or people trying to traumatize trannies?

>>40007537
I'll try but it does seem rather hopeless legitimately. I'm starting to put in the work to see if i make it, starting back on hrt, doing exercise, dieting, going to start voice training, going to practice makeup. But it's all pointless. I'm a giant 6'3 tranny with hips smaller than my ribcage, and large oblong head. I'm basically only trying as an experiment to see how far you can get when it's always been over

>>40007615
yes
cis people are nicer
trans people also are nicer irl
shockingly people are just nicer irl for the most part and dont go around being stupidly antagonistic
half the issues with bitches on this site is that they never breach containment and are content with lingering in their self appointed misery machines
get out into the world and realize that you're probably far prettier than you'd ever give yourself credit for and that there are communities of people that are easily accessible that really aren't that bad
being a whiny little bitch for eternity isn't an option, unless you want to be the tranny equivalent of a kf poster

im 22 and have boymoding since i was 18 and get callee uncle and bro everyday

>>40007639
trannies don't exist irl
they are too busy grooming each other and terrorizing brickhons online

>>40007625
Damn, sorry about your skeleton, that's the one thing you can't do much about as far as I know. Maybe you could at least pull off the Michelle Obama look someday.

also most of you bitches self sabotage and then cry foul
if you ever call what you're doing "boymoding" it's because you suffer a skill issue
you can't boymode and cry about being called a boy, that's retarded

>>40007625
actually, just spitballing here, but maybe if you fatten up while on estrogen the feminized fat distribution would make the male skeleton less obvious?

>>40007639
Nta but u go outside and realise I'm so much uglier than i realise, maybe that's because the main place i go outside is college idk but holy fuck i will literally never look like them ever. I had to wait until the semester was over to even get the motivation to troon because it seems so fucking hopeless seeing myself in comparison to them week in week out
>>40007651
I'm white

>>40007722
college people look amazing, go to a walmart to see who you will be competing with irl

>>40007715
It's really tough to fatten up at 6'3 I'll try when I'm further on hrt but idk being slender is like maybe the one thing i got going for me, then again idk what good it does when the proportions are still fucked
>>40007768
I work at a shop also, i mean yeah i see more old people but everyone still gigamogs me idk. College seems like a fairer fight since we'd be the same age and i also go to college

>>40007722
>Nta but u go outside and realise I'm so much uglier than i realise, maybe that's because the main place i go outside is college idk but holy fuck i will literally never look like them ever. I had to wait until the semester was over to even get the motivation to troon because it seems so fucking hopeless seeing myself in comparison to them week in week out
so find your lane
i could never "compete" with brandy melville girlies but i'm not trying to
at the same time, i've also learned a bit about makeup, i've learned a bit about hair, i've extended my wardrobe and found my aesthetic
this shit does most of the heavy carrying

>>40007851
Some people just get their uggofication done early, I think looks even out as people get older and they certainly care less. It sounds like you have already aged quite a bit, the best looking college kids have not hit the wall yet unless they have very lucky genetics.

>>40007875
And this, before I even got my hands on HRT I could go from looking like a 40 year old coal miner to a cute femboy depending on if I took the time to girl myself up or had been grinding on shit at work.

>>40007875
>Find your lane
I'm getting btfo'd by the people at the petrol station i work at i don't think there's a lane for me. I'm going to try once I'm farther along transitioning for sure though not that i think it'll work but i don't think it's unfair for me to be upset that literally everybody i know gigamogs me
>>40007883
Idk i mean sure in the end yeah but I've masculinised to the point I'll probably never pass let alone look good.

>>40007931
you might not be a good looking guy but I think you could pass as an ugly older woman, there are a lot of horsefaced old ladies to camouflage with

>>40007931
you need to figure out the fashion before your even on estrogen imo, knowing how to girl up is like, at least 60% of it unless you just have the genes for it

>>40007925
>>40007980
Maybe i just don't have the chops anytime I have tried to do this stuff it's been a disaster and leaves me extremely dysphoric from how shit i look trying to present fem. Makeup I'll probably try learning properly very soon but fashion feels pointless with how my body look rn
>>40007955
People actually do think I'm a good looking guy idk how well that works for transitioning though.

>>40008012
estrogen isn't a substitute for work, learn to girl up even if you hate your results at first you can probably figure something you don't absolutely despise eventually.

>>40008033
it also doesn't have to be public, just practice in private so you know what to do further along. I am going to fuck off now goodnight

>>40004665 (OP)
I'm not pretty and i can't be stealth
im 23 been on hrt for 4 years and have had ffs and i dont pass haha im gonna kill myself soon

>>40008033
>>40008052
Yeah i know I'll do it privately and shit idk

>>40004665 (OP)
im 3 years and im male, its fucking bones

>>40004665 (OP)
>face-posted in passgens ever
obviously it was never over for you
go positivitypost on reddit or something

>>40005799
she must be confusing him with that fat ftm

>>40004665 (OP)
Lying is bad OP.
Just because it "worked" for you doesn't mean it's for everyone.
Stop pushing transition as the silver bullet for any suffering teen.

yeah this board did immense psychic damage to me when i tried visiting during early transition, now after a long time on HRT & many surgeries i can casually enjoy it

>>40004665 (OP)
i found this place well before i actually accepted i was trans and not just “some weird cis guy”. i’m still sorta early, 6.5 months on e and still boymoding. any tips for navigating transition, as someone both familiar with the board and capable of knowing it’s all brainworms? thankfully, i’ve been kinda resistant to brainworms, but they’ve definitely affected me to some degree

>>40011861
Like what I said to others here, you really just have to wait. People didnt even know I was trans at 6.5 months (bc I boymoded) but by year two I was consistently getting gendered correctly and at year 3 I’m “stealth” in several places in my life.

Find community with trans people IRL if you can. You realize that brainworms really don’t matter as much when you’re around other trans people IRL. You can live a perfectly good life even if you’re clocky (not saying you are or will be), it might not be a life where you’re making friends with the same people you were pre-hrt but it still is a good life.

I would also say work on the other domains of your life. Get an education if you can, move to a city where your transness will be less likely to limit your job or social opportunities. Start reading books like whipping girl or “a brief history of transmisogyny”. I think that understanding why people hate us in the ways they do can take away a lot of the power that hate has as well as the internal hate it causes in ourselves.

Also get a therapist who has some knowledge of the experiences of trans people.

>>40011507
I’m somewhat the same. I come back here from time to time and look at it, but it doesn’t do anything for me. A lot of this content just feels immature and self-loathing. I used to think there was value here but there’s not

>>40011489
>early hrt trannies
>any suffering teen
bad-faith concern troll moment
stop pushing your personal hatred of trannies in a tranny thread on a tranny board

>>40012394
wtf?
What is early hrt if not a teen?
Just because I don't have the same opinion as you, I'm a troll?
What's wrong in stating that not everyone need the same solutions to their suffering and that OP is probably a minority?

>>40013550
>What is early hrt if not a teen?
in OPs case 22 apparently, but even if most people early in transition were teenagers that doesn’t mean “any suffering teen” is someone early in transition. Obviously.
>Just because I don't have the same opinion as you, I'm a troll?
no, being so blatantly disingenuous means that you’re concern trolling.
>What's wrong in stating that not everyone need the same solutions to their suffering and that OP is probably a minority?
nothing, that isn’t what you said though

>>40004731
you're getting scammed by honlarp hugboxniggers, come back to reality nona, it's all luck and there's always a bigger chance you look awful than passing

the sooner you accept that there's a high chance hrt does nothing the better you'll feel if it does sadly happen (and you will be happy if it's not the case and you become a passoid) op is either a reddit troonbian rapist or an 'arty warrior trying to trick you, stay woke

>>40013785
>OP started at 22
Yeah, but people looking for answer and crashing here are often younger (even more so in the summer)
>blatantly disingenuous
I would say bluntly honest, but maybe I had poor choice of words
>you didn't said that OP's solution will only work on a minority of person
>>Just because it "worked" for you doesn't mean it's for everyone.
How can I be more clear?

>>40013894
>”HOW DARE A TRANNY YOUNGER THAN 22 READ A SUCCESS STORY FROM ANOTHER TRANNY ON 4CHAN, that’s LITERAL GROOMING O ALGO!!!”
stop trying to push your own agenda on people under the guise of fake concern for them, it’s gay (figuratively)

>>40013826
Thanks.
I feel like 16-18 might have been my last chance to start HRT pass. I could just kill myself, but I'm not strong enough, which leads to a sad life. Maybe therapy would help. But I don't have access for now.

>>40012261
yep thats called maturing/getting old

>>40013826
>come back to reality
>literally “it’s over” posting

Can’t you say something original and different for once? I started off as a non-passing transgirl and now I’m stealth to my boyfriend’s parents.
Will every person end up like me? No. But so many more will than what this cess-pool site would have you believe.

>>40004665 (OP)
>You little rascals almost made me kill myself haha.
The little scamps!!!!

>>40015417
Idk how they keep getting away with it

>>40014155
if you want to kill yourself if you cant make trooning work you might as well try so you dont have to on the off chance it does...

>>40015698
Honestly, I want to kill myself now even though I just started HRT. It's not rational.

>>40004665 (OP)
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i only get guys off grindr that want to fuck me likely reppers or chasers i dunno how their minds are

>>40004665 (OP)
if not for this place id still be a repper
I only started hrt bc I learned here that long term manmoding is possible
so ur right I should have stayed away, being a repper sounds nice

>>40015980
Yeah I said it in a previous post but the only good thing this place did for me was getting me to start HRT when I did.

I gotta be honest with all u guys, a good thing this place did for me is Tranny Shapes

Rarely laughed that hard

>>40014720
>Will every person end up like me? No. But so many more will than what this cess-pool site would have you believe.
Stop acting like it's even remotely above 10% of trannies that will have any chance to stealth, you are a fucking weirdo trying to fuck over poor hons by giving them hope when you already know your case is all luck

sincerely, 41 now

>>40018428
A few years ago people called me a hon, now they’re seething that I pass. Sincerely please get therapy and go outside bitch. Your worms aren’t the end all be all of your life. I swear to god I’ll drag you all kicking and screaming outside into the real world

>>40019828
>me
>I
>THIS OBVIOUSLY APPLIES TO EVERYONE UR SO WORMED ANON-KUN!!!!!!
Next level narcissism

All I know is I gave very good advice in the cipgens and if I said you couldn't pass, you couldn't pass. I was generous with who could be fixed with ffs when in reality some probably couldn't. So if you were one of those people then simply put you dont pass. Normies don't know what to look for, but anyone with an ounce of the know, would and then you can see who does or doesn't pass. Being able to pass to some people isn't passing. If anyone can tell, then it's not passing. Im highly skeptical because voice is almost impossible to get right.

>>40004665 (OP)
meanwhile i started hrt at the same age and people were telling me i was gonna make it and i'm still not close to passing 1.5 years later. mfw

>>40004665 (OP)
Wretched*

>>40019886
At least that gives a bit of hope: even if you don't really pass, you can live in daily life semi stealth without it being immediately apparent that you look like a man in a dress, if what OP says is true.

>>40004665 (OP)
>Also fuck you Joe in particular
Damn the fuck i do to you

>>40004665 (OP)
Pics or it didn't happen

>>40023319
this is the last picture he posted before the car crash you sick fuck

>>40014147
Yeah yeah, keep playing dumb and distort what I say.

>>40023412
who is this? can i get the lore? and why is he green