Thread 40034482

How can the democratic party persuade young men to vote for them again?

>>40034482 (OP)
Hogg sucks but this is the stupidest way to get rid of him. The democratic party should literally just but Bill Burr in charge.

>>40034482 (OP)
Maybe treating young men like humans again.

the dnc doesnt hate white men at all, guys

God damn, how much pandering, catering, and convincing do these heifers need? Every movie or vidya character, every other song on the radio, damn near every president or police officer is a man. Im a tranny and even I have to hear about men's mental health month and the male loneliness epidemic. And now they want the laws to cater to them, too? Genuinely how much attention do they need? They're worse than middle school girls with no father.

>>40034697
They will hate to read this but it’s all true

>>40034697
you dont need to type all that. just say you hate white men

>>40034697
>>40034804
Literally zero understanding of what the issues are.

>>40034697
it doesnt matter, there a large voting block

>>40034482 (OP)
watch thrm put someone stupider in

>>40034697
They can’t be satisfied which is why it’s not worth even attempting to work with them. Ironically if they got what they wanted and all the ebil white males were gone they would still have all of their problems and no one to blame but themselves. But they would blame colonialism.

>>40034498
Wasn't David Hogg the one few people that said that they should get rid of the geriatric do-nothings and then the entire democratic party got assblasted about it?

>>40034697
young men have to work twice as hard as any previous generation for worse quality women and less land that costs more money. last i checked young women are excelling in practically every single field that isn't blue collar work or the trades, and young men are supposed to check their privilege after working back breaking labor all day and coming home to an empty shoebox that costs $1800 a month while women online tell them they're not entitled to anything and how only chads deserve sex and love.

>>40034938
But he's the worst person to do it. He started going after Dems in Alaska of all places for not being anti-gun enough. You can't just replace old people with retards.
I get that he has a decent reason to not like guns but that doesn't mean he should be in charge of shit.

>>40034993
Yea fair enough, i think i should just count my blessings and not think about American politics that much
Good luck to you guys though

>>40034804
You were right
>>40034869
What are the issues anon I am open to hearing them.
>>40034896
That's fine but can't they do something sensible?
>>40034956
Anon if the cis men are struggling more than previous generations... Imagine how the trannies are doing

>>40034956
>young women are excelling
Not even "excelling".
Inserted regardless of skill and experience.
This is accurate, but not everything though.

>>40034482 (OP)
i will vote for literally any candidate who is firmly pro-Palestine. which means i probably won't vote in 2028

>>40034482 (OP)
I support the far right because I hate everyone.
t.incel

>>40034482 (OP)
By speaking to economic issues that prevent a man from having and providing a good life for a family, which can be solved in part by taxing wealth. Men want to have a wife, they can't because the jobs they work offer poor benefits and pay, and no wife wants to live in economic misery. Even if he finds a wife, the two of them struggle to have the amount of children they want for not being able to afford housing, food, clothes, for children, and in many cases, for themselves. If Democrats could properly harness and direct the outrage and depression in young men, they would usher in at least 25 solid years of Democratic leadership.

>>40034606
It's not because he's a young White guy that he got booted. That's just their excuse. The real reason is because he pledged $20 million to replace incumbent, do-nothing Democrats that aren't fit to lead in this moment. It's just the antidemocratic machinery in the "Democrat" party at work pushing out anything resembling a cure to the rot. What his methodology is beyond his anti-gun trauma, I don't know. But if you had a progressive or leftist trying to do what Hogg attempted, you can bet they would have been booted out too, probably faster, even if they were a woman.

Listen to this audio where the chair (an old White guy who's not been replaced) bitches out after whining that David Hogg made his job as chair hard because of that pledge. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/08/martin-hogg-call-private-meeting-00393517

>>40035121
What would your thoughts be if they started rounding up incels along with LGBT, disabled, and free-minded women for being dysgenic?

i'm so glad white men are actually standing up for themselves in the political landscape. it's like yeah you can hate me, insult me, and disenfranchise me all you want. you're just never gonna get elected again :^)

>>40035151
Incels getting rounded up won't happen that quickly. They need their food soldiers and work drones.

>>40034482 (OP)
by getting rid of all the authoritarians like picrel trying to take away our constitutional rights

>>40035177
yeah even the democratic party is starting to listen. i think they're beginning to realize that shitting on the straight white man non-stop isn't gonna fly anymore.

>>40035210
>all four turned her down

>>40034938
All I’ve heard about him was that he’s a sociopathic literal crisis actor who’s making bank stealing valor from his dead classmates

>>40035106
>What are the issues anon I am open to hearing them.
See >>40034956 for one of the key points, but also.
Women have literally inserted themselves into all of men's social spaces. If you are willing to listen to Carl Benjamin give off about this for a bit, here is a video:
https://youtu.be/T6rNRS7Iiq0?si=TmrBMR55eM4dOArG

Women are increasingly inserted into high decision-making roles, such as HR and the C-Suite with inadequate experience, with many actually being anti-male.
Laws, regulations, and policies are made that are increasingly perceived as anti "straight white man".
When it comes to things such as video games and TV shows, males are dumbed down to Homer Simpson levels in favour of the "strong independent woman who don't need no man" at all costs.
This is unnecessary as there have ALWAYS been strong female characters in movies.
Even Disney princesses of old (Cinderella, Snow White, Ariel) were strong, decent role models when it came to persevering and achieving.
When it comes to gaming, fat ugly woman characters have been forced in so that the developers have the opportunity to "see themselves" in the game.
There are more examples too around relationships, divorce, etc.

Any single one of these things, in isolation, wouldn't be an issue and men would just shrug their shoulders with a "women will be women" attitude.
Combined, however, you have issues such as that army helicopter pilot hitting that plane, the MeToo movement (Johnny Depp), and so on.

>>40035177
I think the dems royally screwed the pooch with this. They spent the last decade and a half shaming young men and everything young men stand for and now those guys are off the radar so when trump won the popular fucking vote lmao it left the dems in a position where they're forced to shoot in the dark and pray they hit something. they're attempting to extend an olive branch but they can't see the other hand so they have to chuck the branch into a dark pit and hope someone catches it.

>>40035319
if the DNC issued a press release proposing against height filters on Tinder they’d unironically win so many men it’s not even funny. Sure everyone would clown them, but secretly they’d all be grateful they are thinking of men at all.

I mean its not like republicans have a good call to action for softboy herbivores either besides telling us to lift and score pussy at church.

>>40035272
Anon I did read all of this but you need to realize.... You're on the tranny board. You know, for trans people... You're comparing cis men's struggle to obtain cis women's success on the trans board. If the cis men are struggling imagine how it must feel to be us

democrats when 15 years of anti white male rhetoric catch up with them:

>>40035462
Some superchud needs to construct an indexed database of it all

>>40035408
To be fair, the question was
>How can the democratic party persuade young men to vote for them again?
Trans people are not, and should not be considered an issue for men.
Even when it comes to trans dating... What can trans women do?
Nothing.
You are who you are, and people should deal with it...
Except perhaps choose better faces for the camera.

What can the Dems do in that regard?
Stop going on, and on, and on, and on about sexuality, and stop hating on men.
For example, "moid" and "foid" aren't trans terms, they are man/woman hating, leftist trans terms.
There are LOADS of trans people that don't use the term.

YOUR issue is that you aren't even soldiers in the war.
You are the bullets in the gun.
Some MAY be political activists, but I know of more that say "stop firing me at the conservatives, and hoping they will fire back"

>>40035513
whathappend

>>40035534
>whathappend
The "right" old white guy was voted in.

>>40035408
Troons are at the top of the progressive stack. You're the privileged ones.

>>40034697
Most uneducated men are genuinely kind of retarded and thin-skinned, which is why they get their dating advice from unmarried guys that can only get laid by paying for it and their politics from guys specifically out to fuck them over.

>>40035119
you might as well not have registered to vote, lmao

>>40035569
transgenderism is basically a cult of female worship and man hate
I don't expect trannies to ever learn

>>40035534
Googles killin me with the projection lmfaooo

>>40035619
>guys specifically out to fuck them over.
But this is true of both political parties.

>>40035534
honestly this is such a good thing, privilege was a stupid loaded word for "not being explicitly disadvantaged" that probably unironically prevented a ton of people from acknowledging they had it
>>40035569
even if you unironically believe this how do you explain stealth trannies?

>>40035513
i never thought white americans would actually find the balls to vote against the people who hate them.

>>40035319
I can't really see white young men being the tipping point; young people barely vote at all in general. As always, its boomers who decide the elections.

>>40035673
>boomers are vampires that will live forever
I mean… I guess

>>40035699
well they'll keep voting forever if the dems have anything to say about it

>>40035656
Also don't see this reflected in the voting data. The split of white people in 2012 is about the same as the 2024 election (42% Harris, 59% Trump)

>>40035699
I mean, they could poach the current generation of white guys (along with many other demographics) through pretty simple means (giving them jobs and universal healthcare), but they're a party totally by and for rich people, so that's never happening.

>>40035673
there's no one single demographic that will tip the scale one way or another that's not typically how general elections work.

>>40035762
Sure, but I feel like the guys going, "WHITE MEN ARE STANDING UP TO THE DEMS FINALLY" are weird because it seems like they're voting how they always vote.

>>40035514
>Trans people are not, and should not be considered an issue for men.
Trans men
>Even when it comes to trans dating... What can trans women do?
Nothing.
I don't understand what this means and I never said anything about hating men, I just think they're being greedy like the younger siblings that insists on blowing out your birthday candles.

>>40034938
David Hogg is also a gungrabber so there is literally nothing he can do to make me support him in any capacity whatsoever.
>>40035151
I really dont get why he stuck around for so long, the DNC's retarded anti-gun stance is extremely unpopular and I dont understand why the FUCK they cant just let it go
>>40034993
reeeeeeeeeee

>>40035770
i never mentioned white men i mentioned young men which are voting disproportionally more right compared to how they typically vote.

>>40035151
Wealth taxes are retarded and dont work. It is basically equivalent to printing more money which they're already doing.
>>40035319
Yeah you cant shame me into voting for something. If everyone else gets to vote for things that benefit them why cant I?

>>40034605
what does this even MEAN

>>40035514
>For example, "moid" and "foid" aren't trans terms, they are man/woman hating, leftist trans terms.
>leftist trans terms
Wut? It's incel 4chan shit lol

>>40035918
it means start pushing back against this >>40035513

>>40035792
Literally no man has felt "at risk" from a trans man.
The next part means that trans women can try as much as they like to show people that dating trans people is absolutely fine.
However, both parties are against you.

With regards to men being greedy, I can't say I speak for the dejected incels, but for all over men, pretty much everything is a competition with other men.
Money, muscle mass, dick size, partner's beauty, how many fish they caught on Sunday and how much they weighed.

That is another key reason Dems will never win men over.
They are all women.
Men thrive on competition, women thrive on conciliation.

>>40035955
So terrible that clickbait and racists exist on the internet, how will men ever recover? No one has ever been racist or sexist against anyone besides white men on the internet.

>>40035968
you can do whatever you want i'm just telling you until you start pushing back against that the same way you would against articles titled "Should black girls be allowed to talk?" you will continue to lose.

>>40035319
Why did they go to college bros when most mens arent even going to college?

>>40035968
I don't think that this one realises that they are the problem

>>40035653
>stealth trannies
No such thing. People not pointing at you and screaming "OH MY GOD, A MAN PRETENDING TL BE A WOMAN! EVERYONE LOOK AT THE MAN PRETENDING TO BE A WOMAN!" doesn't mean they can't tell, it means they don't want to be on the enemies list of a shrieking BPDemon.

>>40036026
Fighting against the existence of ragebait is fucking retarded and this double standard literally only applies to the left. But sorry, you’re right. I’ll drop everything else I’m doing and spend 24/7 on twitter and take screenshots of antiwhite racism to compile, and of course, ignore the open unironic neonazi propagandists, which strangely all have statues for the profile pictures for some reason, that infect the comments of literally fucking everything, while coming from accounts followed by republican federal representatives and Elon Musk. After we “call out” ragebait enough (by giving it attention and clicks and money), men’s lives will be saved!

>>40035968
apathetic silence isn't enough anymore, we're asking to be treated equally now. if you have a problem with that all i can say is i hope you enjoyed november.

>>40036061
She knows, she just thinks attacking men and white men especially is justified so it's not 'a problem' to do so.

>>40036119
least bad faith “conservative”
>>40036128
I’m only attacking retards. If you feel like retardation is associated exclusively with white men, that is your problem.

>>40034938
Yes, that is actually why it’s happening. I’m not particularly fond of David Hogg, but he was absolutely right against the dems regarding that and that’s why he’s being ousted. Dems would win over young men by being more aggressive on economic social support, climate change, and arguing against the regime, but they’re not willing to do that because they’re all bought.
The dem party needs to die and be replaced with real representation

>>40035901
Taxing wealth is necessary because it takes income-generating assets out of the hands of those who have so much all they can do with the money is collect more assets. When there is a class of people with so much money they can only use it to collect more, the prices of assets like housing keep rising because what the hell else are they going to do with it? Nothing. The issue with the money printing during the pandemic is not simply that it was done, but that the government was not also sitting on the other end of the money flow to beat it out of the capital class who ultimately ended up holding on to the money.

>>40036278
The problem is that this class, the upper class, both makes up the legislative/political class, and has the income to BUY the political class or else hire lawyers and money managers to help them evade the legal framework and avoid paying taxes. So your increased taxes just end up falling on the middle class, who are perched precariously on the precipice of poverty, and ends up dragging them down into the lower class.

>>40036234
They don’t even have to be bought. They’re just too set in their position and have no fucking hobbies, and if they retired, they know they would just drop dead from having nothing to do. Get a fucking life holy FUCK politicians should legally be required to do fucking SOMETHING. Literally all of this could be avoided if people like Pelosi had a book club or something. If she retired, she would die within a week.

>>40036107
how would you explain trannies that think they're stealth and try to be stealth? why would they do that if trannies are privileged? i myself am terrified of anyone finding out

>>40036311
You saw how the unrealized gains tax retardation tanked Kamala so hard she had to immediately take it back, a wealth tax would be even more unpopular, not to mention even more difficult to enforce. The upper classes will just move their money and the middle classes will yet again be the only ones hit hard by it

>>40036111
>sure the NYT is publishing a column by a klansman every Sunday, but really we can’t lose focus from hyperboreapatriottruth.news.biz.ru advocating for The Purge but real

thats u

>>40036111
>comparing massive media publications to 300 follower accounts on shitter

>>40036278
>Taxing wealth is necessary because I don't have much in the way of wealth, and if I was to win the lottery, I would 100% be against taxing wealth.

>>40036311
>>40036388
How do you think this works? If we are talking about circumstances where the Democratic Party would be pushing for a wealth tax at all, then it is a situation where the capital class' grip on politics has already weakened enough that their ability to sneak loopholes in is compromised.

Every asset has a registered owner and there are records on what it is worth/was last sold for. Tax those who have a lot on what they own and don't tax them if they possess little. If an asset's true owners cannot be identified because of nonsense like shell companies, tax it at the highest rate to force tax dodgers to come forward with their identities.

Assets are not something billionaires can run off with to their tax shelters, so it is a tax they cannot avoid. On top of that, any nation, law firm, bank, or other entity that wants to help wealthy tax dodgers can also be put down for American sanctions. Prison sentences should also be a possibility for those who want to aid and abet tax dodging. With extradition treaties, they won't be out of reach. If the capital class owns what is on American soil, then they will pay American taxes.

>>40036590
If I won the lottery in 2020, I would have paid 47.75% in combined INCOME taxes in my state before I even got the money. If I had then taken that money and bought all the real estate I could get my hands on, my paper wealth today would be 76% of the amount I won (based on real estate going up 47% these past 5 years), plus whatever else I could get with the rental income I could make in that time. And then I get to compound on that into eternally and pass it on to my family with many tax loopholes so they can also compound on it forever. Do you see what the difference between an income and a wealth tax is now?

>>40036856
>How it feels to have economics degrees and jump in to a thread with a econlets discussing econ
t.sad gay degree haver

>>40036278
if the assets are income-generating why can't you just tax the income? we already have taxes on realized gains, we should just focus on raising tax rates instead of trying to push this impossible to enforce structure that americans would never support

>>40035569
not in any way. we are treated like disposable shock troops. tranissaries. the second you question any woke orthodoxy you are instantly silenced and isolated as a tran

>>40035259
yup
his dad was literally an fbi agent

>>40036856
The point is not everything is liquid. How the fuck is a retired pensioner on social security supposed to pay a wealth tax on her house you retard
>>40036916
You literally dont have an econ degree you larping fuck. Post proof of it and I'll post proof I make more money than you

>>40037136
it’s not that an impressive degree, guy. Why would it be a larp lol.

>>40036916
Do you disagree with me, then?

>>40036971
An income tax is also necessary. But a wealth tax is good because if a high income tax on the highest earners were instituted now, those who currently own will continue to own in perpetuity. That is an aristocracy. Perhaps most who inherit are happy just never having to work to survive, but there will always be those who want to accumulate more and more. Those can sell a few inherited assets to get the funding they need to reverse income taxes and later buy back the properties they sold. Then society will devolve its way back to where we are now. When decades have passed and the lessons learned from fighting the rich have been forgotten, there will be charlatans who come out of the woodwork to sell the fairy tale of trickle-down economics. Always. Taxing wealth sets them back at least a few more decades.

I think an interesting way to "tax" wealth (because the idea of taxing the wealthy for me is not solely to put money in the hands of the government, but partly to take power out of the hands of those who have so much they threaten the idea of democracy) would be to force all publicly traded companies with a valuation of at least 1 billion dollars (and then adjust for inflation) to issue enough shares to its non-managerial workers such that 50% of the shares are held in common by the non-managerial workers and no individual worker whose holdings contribute to that 50% compliance level may possess more than some percentage of the shares, say 0.0005% (to get around the company hiring the kid of the founder who happens to own 30% of the stock for their parent). This would grant more lasting worker protections than unions alone by forcing the capital class and the worker class to come to an agreement.

>>40036583
Known small twitter account Elon Musk with 300 followers

>>40037348
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>>40037136
What do you think a wealth tax's floor is going to be set to? I want to tax those with tens of millions, perhaps even just those who have hundreds of millions or more in assets. What retired grannies do you know who retired in a house worth that much? And if you do know one like that, she's not depending on that pension to cover her costs at all. A wealth tax is on the wealthy, not those who happen to own a few properties. >>40036916 is also not me if that isn't clear by now.

>2025
>still not seeing that both parties are Zionist controlled opposition

>>40037201
It's not (and neither is my math degree), but the economically illiterate commies always pretend they have an econ degree when they advocate for things they literally teach you dont work when you get your econ degree, like price floors and ceilings, tarriffs, and in this case, a fucking wealth tax lmao

>>40037348
>Do you disagree with me, then?
it’s kinda too silly to even agree or disagree. As a premise. No offense. If we could toggle god mode and and change .ini files maybe. But if we’re already doing that we could make something a lot cooler anyways.

>>40037417
friendly fire dood
im smiths stan

>>40037401
I would rather have democrat zionists than republican zionists

>>40037393
>>40037348
Anon you literally just said earlier >>40036856
you want to arrest lawyers and accountants for doing their jobs lmao, they're required to do their jobs for the same reason defense attorneys have to defend their client even when they're obviously guilty. If your issue is lobbying and election interference that's an incredibly roundabout and retarded way to try to implement a solution
>I want to tax those with tens of millions, perhaps even just those who have hundreds of millions or more in assets
When you have a hard number, politicians will slowly lower the threshold more and more, and inflation will make the price on your house higher and higher. That's why any old laws with actual concrete numbers usually have laughable amounts in the context they are in. I literally see local politicans pushing to categorize houses worth above $300,000 as "mansions" where I'm at, luckily there's still enough sane people to shoot it down

>>40037401
>da jooz
utterly meaningless drivel. antisemitism is like the laziest replacement for class consciousness

>>40037443
My bad, based fellow econ enjoyer. I just had a bad experience cause I remember having to fight against a commie with a chaser flag last pride month who larped as an econ guy

>>40036856
>>40037136
>How the fuck is a retired pensioner on social security supposed to pay a wealth tax on her house you retard
This is whatvI was aiming at.
>Dirt poor boomer manages to buy a house for $20,000 in year 4AD
>Boomer has the nerve to live to be 100 years old.
>House is worth $1m due to location
>Boomer is actually still MONEY poor, only ASSET rich
>Still counted as "wealth" to the retards that want to expropriate private property

>>40036026
I keep trying to tell people this shit, I've been trying since I was in college 10-14
I don't think college aged women will ever realize how bad their rhetoric gets.

Liberal women talk about men the same way racists pulling out black crime reports do.
The best thing liberal journalists can so is start using the racism/sexism simulator
Replace every word that says male or white and replace it with jews or blacks, would you feel uncomfortable publishing they? Then don't publish it

I'm convinced the would you rather be with a man or bear debate was seeded in a smoky room and idiots libs couldn't help but take the bait right before an election again.

>>40037393
>I want to tax those with tens of millions
For how long.
What you are advocating, is Communism.
When you start stealing from the rich, they leave. Taking their money with them (bearing in mind the very richest pay 30%+ of all taxes so far).
So then the lazy, good-for-nothing retards that don't want to work will demand money from those with LESS.
They will also leave, cycle repeats.
It is literally a race to the bottom

>>40037483
I didn't say Jews, retard

most Zionists are evangelical Christians

>>40037483
I don't even know what democrats stand for other than perpetuation of the status quo. Like they get in power and do absolutely nothing to walk back whatever the Republicans put in that was apparently such an existential threat and why you REALLY needed to vote for us this time.

Like their strategy seems to be just dangling "oooh look at how evil the Republicans are gonna be you need to vote for us or they'll ban abortions" OR trying to be Republican-lite to find the mythical centrist who would be too uncomfortable with Republican politics. Both of these seem like extremely weak political ideologies.

>>40035210
>young men recruiter
>choose a woman
why is the Democratic Party so dumb like srsly

>>40037550
communism is literally better at capitalism than the actual capitalists.. look at how stable Chinese market socialism is in comparison to US systemic economic risks. markets work, as long as you have an authoritarian vanguard party

>>40037555
And Jews.
And Muslims
And Atheists

>>40037533
I love the mental gymnastics they had to do when they asked the followup "what about a bear or a black man"

>>40037483
what motive do the wealthy have for supporting isreal so much

>>40037561
I meant to reply to the OP post not the guy mad about jews- sorry "zionists"

>>40037572
China is natsoc, only became good after Deng initiated free market reforms. Unfortunately Xi managed to usurp control from Jiang Zemin's Shanghai faction (Deng's TRVE successors) so the market is bad again. Also you arent welcome in China anyways filthy laowai

>>40037561
>I don't even know what democrats stand for other than perpetuation of the status quo. Like they get in power and do absolutely nothing to walk back whatever the Republicans put in that was apparently such an existential threat and why you REALLY needed to vote for us this time.
utter myth. biden rolled back tons of things from trump and passed dozens of progressive orders and legislations

>>40037572
>Chinese
China began opening its economy to the private sector in 1978 with the implementation of the "Reform and Opening-Up" policy. This policy, spearheaded by Deng Xiaoping, involved shifting from a centrally planned economy to a more market-oriented system.
What was China like before then?

>>40036278
the problem is majority of Americans own stocks or are homeowners so they care about asset prices as much as the wealthy do

>>40037598
He also passed the infraestructure bill and chip bill that Trump dismantled. He didnt made any gun ban (Trump banned bumpstocks) and he had one of the best liberal/progressive government without becoming identity politics. But the DNC played stupid games, the extremist become more outspoken without voting and the shooting guy missed his shot. Literally everyone dropped the ball.

>>40037587
>what motive do the wealthy have for supporting isreal so much
Investment.
Israel is a major R&D hub for topics such as Horticulture, Desert Warefare, Surveillance, Water Desalination, and so on.
Cellebrite, an Israeli company, was the first one to break into the iPhone Post 5S when Apple ramped up it's encryption.

>>40037653
Warfare*

>>40037653
Israel really only became an R&D hub in the 90s after huge migration of highly educated ppl from the Soviet Union. There was still wide support for Israel before that in the media and politics

>>40037649
The infra bill was a massive waste of time, money, and political capital. Even if inflation wasn't Biden's fault but rather the fault of Covid/Trump, wasting more money on retarded shit nobody cares about will make you look bad. He should have focused on fighting inflation. Also Biden 100% did a ton of idpol in his appointments. I wish the moderate dems would realize no matter how much idpolling you do the retarded blue hairs will still screech at you because you disagree with them on 0.0001% of issues or because you dont want to instantly immediately dismantle all capitalism and white supremacy and yadda yadda and instead court moderates and former republicans driven away by Trump

>>40037565
No one else stepped up

>>40037697
there isn't literally one white male democrat who would do this?

>>40037611
yes, and it's still communism

>>40037713
No because it would torpedo your support among the purple hair yass queen slayy girl I guess college educated womans crowd

>>40037401
That's why anyone aligned with the cause needs to exercise what power we do have to subsume the parties from within. Time will do the job partly, but

>>40037424
Then what would you do within the bounds of what's feasible?

>>40037417
I don't claim to have an economics degree. Why wouldn't a wealth tax work, in your own words?

>>40037479
>you want to arrest lawyers and accountants for doing their jobs
Arrest them for helping someone avoid a wealth tax once it is instituted. Under a system where a wealth tax is enacted, I am saying if an accountant knows their client is worth 6 billion dollars but handles their paperwork in such a way as to have them pay the taxes someone with 100 million would pay, that's a prison sentence. What they do currently is legal and something they cannot be prosecuted for after the fact. We need to close these loopholes.
>When you have a hard number
Which is why the limit should be pegged to inflation. The way minimum wage is in some jurisdictions. Could you try to argue against the actual idea?

>>40037520
You're getting really hung up on the specifics rather than focusing on the broad strokes. Taxing someone out of their home would not happen with some easy measures, like placing an exemption on a person's primary dwelling or setting the tax only on those houses in the 99.99 percentile valuation for its state. Besides, $1M is not what I'm talking about, that's a normal person in this housing market.

>>40034697
Can people really not tell this is a shitpost?

>>40037685
Nigga you retarded. USA infrastructure is at third world level and he did more to fight inflation than Trump the eggman. He signed the american rescue plan act that brought inflation from 9.1 after Trump terrible government to a 3.2.

In what world you live? If anything Trump has done worst in his first months that Biden did his entire government and thats plain to see.

>>40037867
hard to tell the difference between satire and reality

>>40037808
>Time will do the job partly, but
Whoops, I was making so many points I forgot to finish that one. -but we need progressives to run for office, start filling in the Democratic party machinery, for workers to organize a labor movement with general work stoppages, and other tactics to wrest control from the capital class.

>>40037550
>For how long.
The idea is that which goes over the floor of the tax is taxed, that which falls under it is not taxed. Such that no one must live in poverty. Are you arguing there is not an amount of money sufficiently large that having more than that makes no difference to a person's quality of life?

>Taking their money with them
Only high earners can take their money with them. Those who own a lot cannot. They can flee, but they can't take their assets with them even being allowed to do so because the assets cannot physically be moved. And all the value is in the asset, not the wealthy person who fled because no single person adds billions of dollars in value to anything. But there are certainly those who can siphon off that much. Wealthy people who don't pay taxes aren't needed.

>bearing in mind the very richest pay 30%+ of all taxes so far
Are you sure you're not talking about high-income earners? They are different from the wealthy, who OWN and have many ways to get around income taxes.

>>40037649
The Democrats massively increased illegal immigration (which harms the lower class that competes with them for jobs and housing) and rhetoric against males (who are half the voters,) so anything else they did is basically meaningless.

>>40037713
Evidently not

>>40035514
>For example, "moid" and "foid" aren't trans terms, they are man/woman hating, leftist trans terms.
Foid and femoid is what incels called women and moid was the femcel response I guess

>>40037747
>Communism is when private investors and companies can engage in the market.
Sure.
>>40037680
That's when it really took off, but in the 60's and 70's they were already heading in that direction.
Funny what a war could do it a country though.