Why are trans people cheering the attacks on Tel Aviv? Tel Aviv is one of most open minded places in Middle East that protects rights of trans people

Free Palestine isn't a grass roots movement its top down

A minority of trans people are NPCs who dogmatically adhere to ideological conformity and mistakenly believe that Islam is accepting of lgbt people, its just the fundamentalists who study the Koran daily who misunderstand the religion. Also antisemitism.

Ultimately the conflict in the ME is incredibly complex, rooted in historical grievance and religious beliefs, as well as geopolitical maneuvering and land. It isn't good vs evil, it isn't a genocide, its a war, like other wars happen around the globe over resources and land.

A good example is Yemen, probably the most brutal and extreme conflict occurring right now, the FR crowd care nothing for that conflict, because it isn't fashionable or ideologically acceptable to realise that Muslims are responsible for killing the most Muslims. Ultimately, Israel is the only country in that region an openly lgb person or a visibly trans can not only exist, but participate in everyday life. Compare that to the UK, red state America, Russia or Hungary, where trans people are systemically disenfranchised, raped, beaten and killed

>>40052825
you’re mindbroken

>>40052779 (OP)
>the cringiest trannies are all pro Israel
hmmmm I’m noticcingggg

>>40052830
I dont support people who would kill me by hanging me from crane, or throwing me from a roof top.

Feel free to speak to ex Muslim trans people, you won't. They'll tell you what their experience is and you'll scream at them for being bigots

nice try officer

Iran could do the funniest thing ever


Plz :3

>>40052779 (OP)
Israel is an illegitimate state. Death to all Israelis.

>>40052779 (OP)
i don't know, i think what the israeli government is doing to palestine is wrong but also being happy that civilians lives are in danger in israel is fucked. civilians shouldn't be dying in israel or palestine

>>40052842
Im a gay ex Muslim and I support Palestinians right to resist. Yes im half pali and I know most Palestinians dont like me but would your rhetoric be justified to killing 6 million Jews in Holocaust cause they were homophobic.

>>40052779 (OP)
inshallah they nuke tel aviv >o<

>>40052779 (OP)
Iran must implement TKD

>>40052864
Then don't complain when the same mindset shown by Christians and islamists in the West causes our death.

You are defending those who want you dead, whilst complaining those very same people in the west want you dead

ive never known a pro israel tranny that isnt an ugly hon

>>40052916
Am i supposed to watch by seeing my people die and my relatives be treated like second class citizens.

>>40052962
Your people are not your people. I'm sorry, it's hard to hear, but they are not your people.

I watched a documentary on what they do to people like you, and people like me. A huge crowd gathers, those accused of being lgbt are beaten with sticks but not killed. Then their hands are tied behind their backs. A noose is placed gently around the neck, and tightened but not tight enough to restrict oxygen to the brain. The rope is attached to a crane that slowly lifts the victim into the air. They hang by their necks. The pain is so extreme they bite their own tounges off whilst thrashing. Death can take hours.

I will never defend savages who do this to lgbt people

>>40053029
You can understand that they’re just products of their environment.

>>40053065
Anon, I'm not pro Israel, anti Palestine

I'm not pro Palestine, anti Israel. I'm not Muslim, I'm not Jewish. It isn't my fight. I learnt about it, I read about it, I've spoken to both semites and Muslims on the topic, but isn't my fight.

I'm pro lgbt. I'm pro trans. My allegiance is to people like me, who go through what I go through. Palestinians kill other Palestinians just because of how they were born. I cant defend it.

And when I said I was sorry, I genuinely meant it. I'm genuinely, seriously sorry that this is how your people see you, and would treat you. I know what it's like to be targeted by those you considered kin, I know what it's like to be excluded and be the outcast. I wish lgbt people weren't treated so appallingly, but I cant help but imagine a noose around my neck, imagine being in so much pain I bite my own tongue off, and choke on my own blood if I'm lucky. I can imagine it, and it happens every day, to people like you, to people like me. The whole situation is a disgrace and I shake with sadness when I reflect on it for too long. All of it is terribly unnecessary.

>israel attacks gaza
>HOW DARE YOU SUPPORT GAZA /LGBT/, THEY WOULD THROW YOU OFF OF ROOFTOPS HARBARGHALFAHFRGHV
>israel attacks hezbollah
>HOW DARE YOU SUPPORT HEZBOLLAH /LGBT/, THEY WOULD THROW YOU OFF OF ROOFTOPS HARBARGHALFAHFRGHV
>israel attacks iran
>HOW DARE YOU SUPPORT IRAN /LGBT/, THEY WOULD THROW YOU OFF OF ROOFTOPS HARBARGHALFAHFRGHV

>your people are not your people
lol. this is what the average westoid tranny actually believes
my rural chinese family isnt big on the homos, guess that means theyre irredeemable monsters and they all deserve to die. you don't get a culture, you don't get a homeland, you don't get a people, you should cheer as the streets you grew up in and the people you grew up with are torn to shreds by bombs because the people who made them are more in line with western european social liberalism than the ones on the receiving end. you are queer and nothing else and you should be happy as our endless death machine paves over every culture and society in the world that doesnt accommodate you perfectly right now
and they wonder why people hate us

>>40052779 (OP)
kill yourself

>>40052779 (OP)
what most of you fail to consider is that a sizeable portion of americans would throw fags and trannies off roofs if they could

>>40053233
>and they wonder why people hate us

No, I don't wonder. I'm familiar with the historical legacy and intricacies of trans people in various cultures around the world.

Not everywhere hates us, not everywhere that currently hates us now, hated us in the past.

Our positions come from a difference of epistemological perspective. In my culture, the individual is supreme, rightly or wrongly, that's how it works. I was kicked out and expected to fend for myself at a young age. There was no support, no larger network I could call upon. Sink or swim, fuck you, that was what my parents, family and society taught me. A Chinese culture subsumes the individual, where familial duties that precedence over your personal wants. So ofcourse you wouldn't cut off your family, why would you, they can be as abusive as they like because your duty to them take precedence over your autonomy.

Anyways this is tangential, it isn't about cultural dislike of gender non conformity, its about blind loyalty to people who murder people like me in the most brutal and painful way possible. I noticed you didn't address this point.

>>40053233
>and they wonder why people hate us

No, I don't wonder. I'm familiar with the historical legacy and intricacies of trans people in various cultures around the world.

Not everywhere hates us, not everywhere that currently hates us now, hated us in the past.

Our positions come from a difference of epistemological perspective. In my culture, the individual is supreme, rightly or wrongly, that's how it works. I was kicked out and expected to fend for myself at a young age. There was no support, no larger network I could call upon. Sink or swim, fuck you, that was what my parents, family and society taught me. A Chinese culture subsumes the individual, where familial duties take precedence over your personal wants. So ofcourse you wouldn't cut off your family, why would you, they can be as abusive as they like because your duty to them take precedence over your autonomy.

Anyways this is tangential, it isn't about cultural dislike of gender non conformity, its about blind loyalty to people who murder people like me in the most brutal and painful way possible. I noticed you didn't address this point.

>>40052779 (OP)
Because Pissrael sucks.

>>40052779 (OP)
I hate Israel because im a fucking chud, you hate Israel because you are a leftist tranny
We should love each other

Allah stands with Israel. The jews are Allah's chosen

I don't like neither jews or muslims. I fantasize with their mutual destruction. Having to choose between one of them is Anglo propaganda and I'm spanish, we expelled both kikes and mudslimes in the middle ages.

>>40052825
>Equating the delicate condition of LGBT people in Yemen to fucking America of all places
If you want to make overtly malicious posts at least try to make them believable

I don't support any kind of war wtf

>>40053295
lmao alright. after telling pali anon that their relatives back home are all bloodthirsty thugs who want to torture them to death you cast me and my people as mindless drones with no personal dignity. got any more age-old racist bile to spew about some other culture you don't like, or are you done?
why should i address your point? it's retarded garbage. you watched a documentary once and now you believe an entire people, or better yet the entire population of the second largest religion in the world, are blood-crazed savages with no differences between them who should be left to their fate as people you deem superior butcher and starve them by the thousands. you got viscerally disgusted once by something you saw and now you refuse to see the humanity in two million people being herded into fake aid distribution sites to get fired upon as they starve. you probably don't even see how similar that is to how most homophobes & transphobes in the west are newly radicalised off the internet

>>40053321
i love you too anon

>>40053437
Why are you excusing the systemic murder of lgbt in the middle East?

Why is it racist to acknowledge that familial duties are an important part of Chinese culture?

Why do you support people who want you dead? Why aren't you this angry over Sri Lanka, where they treat lgbt people much better? Why are Sri Lankan lives seen as less worthy to you?

>>40053413
Deliberate misinterpretation. I said lgbt people are treated better in Israel than the UK, red state America, Russia and Hungary

Do you dispute this demonstrable fact?

>>40053534
I have post-op trans friends who live in America's deep south and they would choose to be reborn in Alabama 10000 times over than that fucking evil genocidal colonial apartheid state you fucking retard

>>40053552
because they are brain broken commies who are extremely privileged on a global scale yet don't know it, and likely have very opinionated views on countries half a world away that they are incapable of finding on a map.

>>40053552
Ah yes, Americas deep south, known for its in depth understanding of geopolitical relations.

You sound rather angry, please calm down. The location your friends choose to reside in is immaterial to the legal realities of the countries under discussion. Trans people have more rights in Israel than they do in the UK, red state America, Hungary and Russia.

This is a demonstrable fact. Where your friends prefer to live is irrelevant.

>>40053589
Trans people having more rights or less rights in the west is irrelevant. The jewish scourge must be erased from the face of the earth. End of story.

>>40053437
You do :)

>>40052779 (OP)
Really wish all of tel aviv was destroyed if I'm gonna be quite honest senpai

>>40053029
>your people are not your people anymore
Suuurely not a cult

>>40052779 (OP)
>Israel doesn’t execute trannies in the streets so they are the good guys o algo
Black and white thinking is a symptom of autism.

>>40053730
Are palestinians in gaza even killing gay people? Seems like israelis are killing the most gay palestinians.

>>40053672
And there it is. Raw hatred.

>>40053029
Yeah this is clearly heinous and even in the best of circumstances I'm not really an islam enjoyer to say the least
I just think that maybe is amerikkka and pissrael DIDN'T destabilize and bomb the fuck out of those countries for a hot minute, they might start chilling the fuck out

>>40053702
Do you consider those who would kill you to be a friend?

>>40052825
>Compare that to red state America, where trans people are systemically disenfranchised, raped, beaten and killed
The only trannies murdered in the US are black and brown prostitutes

>>40053740
Israel offers asylum to lgbt people.

Israel offered asylum to a trans woman. The Palestinians kidnapped her, and killed her. The lgbt people in this thread won't respond to this, or will hand wave it.

>>40053749
Plenty of white, Hispanic, and black trans people are killed, yes black trans people are more vulnerable, trans people who engage in sex work are more vulnerable.

The way you phrase it makes it seem as though you don't care, as though their lives are lesser and not worthy of value. Please tell me I'm misinterpreting that

>>40053753
The israeli govt conducts anti-lgbt demonstrations, gay marriage is illegal, and they kill gay palestinians.
Doesn't sound very progressive to me.

>>40053065
As are Israelis.

>>40053753
Jews enjoy doing performative acts in order to hide their true motives, look at segm and tell me by who it's led

>>40053740
>>40053753
I’m starting to think that sub 100 iq retards simply cannot understand the fact that opposed parties do not have to be opposites.

Towelheads bad does not mean Israel good

>>40053672
you and your nazi friends will be put down like dogs

Ermmmm I'm starting to think that sub 100 iq retards can't just accept the fac that Israel is always right and americans should just die for Israel and let them kill women and children by the tens of thousands because they deserve more living space....

>>40053766
Yes I'm acquainted with both SEGM and Genspect. I'm aware that some Jewish people are involved in these organisations. That's incidental.

Some Jewish people are heavily involved in pro trans legislation and organisations. Jewish people are not motivated by their religion, but out of other reasons, some personal. The confounder of Genspect has a FTM son, and he can't accept that.

However, adherents of Islam regularly state their religion influences their political policy decisions

>>40052848
based

>>40053771
>Towelheads bad does not mean Israel good
Anon, read the thread. I am not Muslim, I am not Jewish. It is not my fight.

But I could fly to Tel Aviv, have food, walk around, sit in a park be perfectly safe, safer than I am in the West. I cannot say the same for Palestine, Egypt, Jordan, or Iran, and thats heart breaking because Jordan is beautiful

>>40052779 (OP)
Iran has a right to defend itself

>>40052779 (OP)
Iran treats trans women as women in all aspects and fully funds transition.
Israel begrudgingly doesn't kill or abuse white American trans women.
Maybe stop lying so hard?

>>40053806
Uh this is fucking antisemitic, Iran should have all of their civilians killed so Israel can fell more safe.

>'ate israel
>'ate israel
>'ate israel
simple as

>>40053800
>but terrorist shitholes are bad??? So how is Israel not good????
I’m going to go insane

>>40053807
>Iran treats trans women as women in all aspects

And how does Iran treat women?

>>40052779 (OP)
Bye bye Israel

>>40053800
You can't have food and walk around in Palestine because you'll be hit by an israeli missile you fucking retard lmao

>>40053800
yea youd be less safe in palestine because theres a decent chance youd get a bomb dropped on you lol

i will dance in the streets the day every ranking member of the israeli military is tried and executed for warcrimes and crimes against humanity

>>40053829
depends on the area, urban areas are fairly moderate and you'll see heaps of women in typical western style clothing, with jobs, etc, etc. Rural regions and small villages is where the real backward shit happens. Iran is a pretty popular tourist destination its not some locked down muslim hermit kingdom.

>>40053787
>d-dats incidental anon
Daughter of the SEGM founder is a heavily pro insraeli detrans grifter, and the founder herself is a bootlicker for israel, not even in the conflict, just in absolutely everything

google israeli right to rape protests, thats literally all you need to know about how progressive israeli society really is

When deciding which side's victory would be better in a conflict halfway across the world, in countries that you have 0 interest in even visiting in your life, you have to judge it based on how it would be if you personally lived in each of them. Because I say so, okay?

>>40052779 (OP)
>Why are trans people cheering the attacks on Tel Aviv?
They are told to.

>>40053895
Holy crap Loise... look at the red circles compared to the blue circles that must mean something and isn't just random bullshit.

>>40053741
>>40053779
it's not "raw hatred". It's a rational opinion following what the jews have done to the world. Pathogens must be destroyed, for the illness to cure.

>>40052779 (OP)
I'm an Atheist and don't have a dog In this stupid holy war bullshit but I would be a lot more forgiving to Israel if they hadn't been openly corrupting our government into being their bitches for my entire life. I'm tired of religious people fucking up the world.

>>40053895
>republican voters have incoherent views which don’t align at all with their own party
>democrat voters actually have a coherent position
guys liberals are bad okay??

>>40053895
this is proof rightoids are retarded
theres more diversity of thought because “hitler is alive at the nazi space alien arctic base” and “hitler sadly killed himself in his bunker after serving germany honourably in the fight against the jewish menace” are two technically varied yet equally retarded statements

>>40053829
Better than zionists treat transwomen.

>>40053753
Don't care. Just because the Devil saves a dog, it doesn't stop it from being the Devil.

>>40053890
i actually judge which would be better based on which side says psychotic shit like “all of the other sides children deserve to be murdered in their cribs because they will grow up to be terrorists”

>>40053916
American evangelical zionists should actually be exterminated

>>40053931
>zionists should actually be exterminated
ftfy

>>40053912
>>40053914
This is just proof that the left is a CULT that works via shame and ostracism. That's all it is, a cult. A death cult.

>>40053914
its just indicative of american style rightoid anti-intellectualism, covid vaccines containing microchips with the number of the beast is fantasist shit that shouldn't be tolerated as serious political thought but americans uphold a vulgar concept of democracy as the ultimate good

>>40053938
True, but I was just being more specific towards an especially retarded subgroup

>>40053925
they both do.
but that view point is more common among the palestinians.

>>40053941
>IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH!!!

>>40053912
They aren't "liberal" though.
Liberalism is something neither side embraces.
>>40053902
>On a categorical scale, 58.1% self-identified as Democrats, 28% as Independents, and 13.9% as Republicans
With that kind of spread, you'd imagine the opposite, right?
>>40053914
Ah yes.
I'm certain one of the questions is "Is Hitler alive?"

>>40053941
>its a cult cos uhhhh they have coherent positions based in reality and and not baseless conspiracy theories
sure buddy

>>40053946
america is genuinely one of the worst nations on earth
the shit that passes for genuine political discussion in america would get you laughed out of public life anywhere else

>>40053956
>With that kind of spread, you'd imagine the opposite, right?
No lmao. Are you stupid?

>>40053938
zionists are better than american evangelical zionists, ethno-nationalism and settler colonialism is understandable at a practical level. the americans are a straight up jim jones tier doomsday cult

>>40052779 (OP)
Becuase American cultual wars are retarded, that's it. After the current war is over they will a new "issue" to fight about and be obsessed with.

>>40053956
>unable to understand a hyperbolic hypothetical
they say thats generally a sign of low intelligence

>>40053959
No it's actually a cult. Importing millions of indians and mexicans isn't a position based on reality, it's a position based on fantasy

>>40053959
>It's absolutely NOT a cult, because we kick anyone out that doesn't agree with our position.
Makes sense, I guess?

>>40053956
>Is Hitler alive?
Not yet.

>>40053976
the fantasy is that you think this is happening lol

>>40052779 (OP)
Becuase American cultural wars are retarded, that's it. After the current war is over they will find a new "issue" to fight about and be obsessed with.

>>40053977
genuinely when does this happen? noone gets kicked out of broadly left leaning spaces for reasonable disagreements

stuff like “xyz group doesnt deserve rights” is ofc not a reasonable disagreement

>>40053975
>Unable to understand sarcasm.
Very telling
>>40053966
Obviously not as stupid as some in this thread that think it is the nature of free will, bolstered by life experiences, for everyone to have the same thoughts and opinions.

>>40053941
>the left is a death cult!!!
>worships moloch
>sacrifices 1.2 million americans to a lab virus released by a republican
>cut healthcare, childcare, SNAP to build bombs
>militarize pigs to kill randoms at will
>slaves to israel and faggot billionaires
okayyy

>>40053976
>isn't a position based on reality, it's a position based on fantasy
its literally based on reality you moron, how do you think the millions of indians and mexicans got into your country? imagined from aether?

>>40053970
Same shit different portapotty.

>>40053988
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-will-become-minority-white-in-2045-census-projects/

>>40053998
free will does not exist, objective reality does, and liberal policies are what correspond best with both the available data and the compassion that pre-determined lives deserve

>>40053998
you were expressing a genuine opinion with a sarcastic tone
your point was “you are wrong because one of the questions was not literally ‘is hitler alive’”
express it however you want you still look retarded

>>40054009
and why is this a bad thing?
“importing” implies an intentional element (which is the schizo part)
demographics change

>>40053988
>>40053999
>>40054004
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/03/white-british-minority-in-40-years-report-claims/

>>40054018
>That didn't happen.
>And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
>And if it was, that's not a big deal.
>And if it is, that's not my fault.
>And if it was, I didn't mean it.
>And if I did, you deserved it.

>>40054020
again? who cares?

>>40054020
What does your racial anxiety have to do with anything? There was a time before white people, there will be a time after. And besides white genes will still remain and (in all likelihood) dominate so really who does care? Did you not mean to include me in the yous?

>>40054031
>>40054026

>>40053760
no you're not, their lives are absolutely and intrinsically worth less

>>40054026
>i am unable to understand the conversation at hand so i will present a vaguely relevant quote in an attempt to appear like i presented a coherent response

>>40054041
>>40054032
>>40054026

>>40053996
>genuinely when does this happen?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Fine.
Let's put the idea of political agreements aside, despite it being 100% valid.

Let's look at... Electric cars.
One side of eco-warriors go on, and on, and on about the climate. How we need electric cars, save the planet, the world is going to end in 1980, and so on.

Others that aren't necessarily aligned with that position think "well, milage and repair costs will be shit, but I suppose I can do one little thing to do my part, to offset the fact that when I take my 15 kids to the beach, I leave my litter everywhere.
>Everyone is happy
In 2025, an individual aligned with the more superior electric car brand with the higher total return on interest gets involved in politics.
Suddenly, all those car buyers are public enemies.

Next, you will tell me that NO electric cars were damaged intentionally, and no drivers were attacked PURELY because of the brand of car they bought 5 years prior...

>>40053882
Yes, her daughter is insane. Amazes me how anyone pays her attention.

Anyways life is complex, I'm fiercely pro trans and can see israels stance, they're heavily anti trans and wholeheartedly support Israel.

Nuance, my dear anon, nuance.

>>40054020
again you subliterate moron how is the existence of millions of indians and mexicans in the US a position of fantasy when its empirically real and has been so for multiple decades? do you not understand the concept of fantasy and reality or can't you read 2nd grade english?

>>40054049
Yeah I get it but I never mentioned immigration even once?

>>40054038
That's a disgusting position to take, you should be excluded from the conversation, beyond the pale

>>40054060
the position of fantasy is that of the people importing them for cheap labor and the brainless npc leftists cheering on them for diversity purposes

>>40054053
this is so low iq and incoherent. i know it’s a troll but wow it’s hard to imagine the work it takes to make a satire this specifically accurate

>>40054060
That one you quoted was the UK though.
The UK never WAS a "nation of immigrants" and so on.
It has always been the same type of people, colour-wise.

Why do you not care if Native American's are made extinct?

>>40054072
again, this is empirically real, it is something that is literally happening in the material world as we speak. do you understand what fantasy means?

Why can't we just condemn the extremists on both sides and support Israeli and Palestinian civilians

>>40054085
the position of fantasy is that they think that is a good thing

>>40054073
Ahhh.
No real answer, so sticking to ad hominem attacks.
Good tactic. Works wonders.
>Satire
https://azfreenews.com/2025/04/man-arrested-for-assault-of-tesla-driver-near-flagstaff/

>>40054093
Then how would people get a dopamine hit from attacking the other side?

>>40054093
>Why can't we just condemn the extremists on both sides and support Israeli and Palestinian civilians
Or...
How about you recognise the fact that "taking sides" in a war that will last until the end of time is not in your best interests, and let those directly involved fight it out themselves

>>40054106
what does that have to with the preceding 15 lines of nonsense

>>40054097
Thats not a position of fantasy, its a position of values, material benefits, on and on. Do you think its a bad thing for the people literally profiteering from the import of these people? They are making millions and millions of dollars from it and are insulated from any negative externality. Its fantasy to refuse vaccine because you think bill gates somehow implanted microchips in them that bear the mark of the beast because its empirically not true.

>>40054106
Just as I said, are you retarded or disingenuous?
Elod didnt get "suddenly" involved in politics in 2025, it was earlier than that. The cars were expensive and in cases of some models ridiculously dangerous on the road in the first place

>>40054131
Those values stem from a position of fantasy. The leftist populace also have the position of fantasy without the material gain. Ergo, cult.

Jenner should burn in hell
i say this as a trans

>>40054126
It's ok, I don't blame you.
Your school did you wrong.
As for the answer, Everything.
Not one person looked into electric cars and genuinely thought that, with just the simple fact that replacing the batteries for the car alone costs as much as a new car, what they were doing was a financially beneficial investment.
They simply wanted to show the eco crowd that they were doing "their bit" to stop polluting the air.
They wanted in with the crowd.
Then as soon as something happened, that was entirely out of their control, they were ostracised.
>>40054148
>The cars were expensive and in cases of some models ridiculous
Should have just stopped here.
All of the electric cars are ridiculous.
Imagine paying a premium for a car that, as soon as it gets too cold, you lose half of your mileage capability.
>>40054148
>Elod didnt get "suddenly" involved in politics in 2025
I never said the drivers of the cars bought them in 2025 though.

>>40054053
meds