look hear me out, sisters. Unless you're a HON HON and I dont mean a twinkhon, I dont mean what most of you bitches consider "hon". I mean mtfbutch level boomerhon bad, you should just to some degree girlmode. You're literally not transitioning if you're a "boymoder"

Or just rep

>>40074354 (OP)
but I'm here to get the jump on everyone and be on hrt for a while before I fully come out to my family and whatnot so when I do I just end up looking really pretty right off the bat and not like some hon

>>40074354 (OP)
>I dont mean what most of you bitches consider "hon".
big tru desu, people here istg have never seen a woman before. they diagnose everyone as hon and 90% of the time its not even kinda applicable

i've been boymoding for like 6 years though and am definitely the exception to your rule. i cant even put on mildly feminine clothing without having a genuine breakdown at the sheer contrast between the femininity and my completely masculine form

>>40074385
darling, you need to work on your fashion sense. I'm really sorry. I know its scary but if you really intend on being something resembling a woman, you need to start now. Unless you're a boomerhon :/

>>40074354 (OP)
trip on jennie

>>40074354 (OP)
Why would i pretend to be female when i can just take the medications i need without the larp ?

>>40074473
>why should I take these medications they're intended?
the geniuses in this board never fail to impress me

>>40074510
?
I have dysphoria
Hrt helps with dysphoria
How does pretending to be female when im not help with dysphoria ?

>>40074523
>how does attempting to be perceived female help with my gender dysphoria (caused by being perceived as male)

>>40074542
I dont care about tricking people
I know the truth
Boymoding is great cause i can take hrt and just be a faggy guy, best of both worlds

>>40074561
you dont need hrt to be a faggy guy, darling. HRT is literally doing nothing for you if you're not working on your makeup, fashion and mannerisms.
>ERRRMM BUT IM AN HRT FEMBOY HURRR
go for a walk in the park

>>40074409
i started hrt at 20-21, its been 6 years
not necessarily boomerhon but not much better

i don't have a fashion sense, but i can't get one when even the idea of womens clothing on my body makes me sick
and i'm not even out to anyone so it'd also be weird in that aspect

>>40074542
no, i get what they're saying. first and foremost is the physical dysphoria for me. everything else is external assurance of physically passing.
if i were to get she/her'd by people, that reaffirms that i don't look like a man.
unfortunately, i can't manage dealing with my physical dysphoria, nor do i get reaffirmed

>>40074621
save money, get surgeries, voicetrain, etc.
hrt is step one

>>40074636
im a hikineet, i dont have money to save.
no surgery can even help me, my frame itself is fundamentally too big. i'm not like most ""hons"" here who have a slightly angular chin or some dumb shit, saying they will literally never pass.
i have a football linebacker frame, a thick neck, tall, wide, everything

hrt may be step one, but i somehow failed on step 0

>>40074354 (OP)
>start girlmoding when the pendulum is swining in the direction of concentration camps for trannies

Yea nah im good.

>>40074354 (OP)
preach. I transitioned to not be seen and treated as a man by society. Why then would I dress and pretend to be a man? That shit makes me dysphoric.

>>40074586
uhm maybe it did nothing for you but these D cups say otherwise

honestly this advice doesn't work for everyone. sometimes the clash of masculine presentation with hrt makes people look more feminine than they would if they girlmoded

>>40075354

>>40075354
Exactly
The hon moders will never admit this, they think wearing foundation from the drug store means they are women

>>40074463
This
>>40074354 (OP)
I don't want to get kicked out and left homeless tho

>>40074354 (OP)
agree
i just kinda repped on estrogen and it broke me, now im gonna have to detroon
shoulda detrooned sooner doe, and forcing myself to girlmode wouldve gotten me there earlier

>>40075971
> hon moders
you mean people that actually NEED to present feminine to not feel dysphoria and be able to participate in society instead of rotting in their room all day?

>>40076018
>NEED to present feminine to not feel dysphoria
Nigga i am just as dysphoric as any other trans person- dressing up as a woman and not cis passing is the most humiliating thing in the world
Dressing up as a woman and pretending to be cisf does nothing for dysphoria, if anything it is the opposite

>>40076030
> Dressing up as a woman and pretending to be cisf does nothing for dysphoria
you sure you trans?

>>40076036
Yeah of course lmao
Maybe u dont experience dysphoria, but being looked at as a ‘trans woman’ is very dysphoric
I’d rather boymode and people think i am ftm, at least they’ll see me as female instead of a man in a dress :p

>>40076046
> u dont experience dysphoria
yeah probably not seeing as I'm a faketrans hussie

> people think i am ftm, at least they’ll see me as female
holy internalized transphobe yippie-a-yeah

>>40075971
For real so many hons seem to think wearing dresses and makeup makes them women

Meanwhile I put none on and get gendered properly more than they ever will lol

It's funny watching faketrans handwring about how they totes more valid because they "know when to give up." If you actually wanted to be a woman, you'd follow through on it instead of making excuses.
Social transition is the only real transition. End of story. Boymoding is faketrans.
I'm getting gendered female every day despite being a brick with a 5 o'clock shadow, because I socially transitioned and built a life of friends, family, and coworkers who like me.

>I'm getting gendered female every day despite being a brick with a 5 o'clock shadow
>gendered female
>5 o clock shadow
Omg…… gentleman i am signing out!

If it's a medical issue we should treat is as such with medical treatment. Making it about "wanting to be a woman" just seems to push it into boomerhon sissy territory and I want nothing to do with that culture.

>>40076119
>Social transition is the only real transition. End of story.
lol sorry I don't want to be a crossdresser/transvestite but I do want the health improvements I get from HRT

>>40076140
>Making it about "wanting to be a woman"
what else would you make it about?

>>40075354
>sometimes the clash of masculine presentation with hrt makes people look more feminine than they would if they girlmoded
literally this. i get treated like a girl way more often when wearing a normal guy hoodie. until you start to get into passable territory with ffs or hrt it's a lot less stressful and even more affirming to dress as a guy and have people be confused.

>>40076159
By all means, do it. I support it wholeheartedly. But it's not trans. Go hang out with the HRT femboys. They're cool people.

>>40075419
I can't girl mode with this figure

>>40074354 (OP)
genuinely don't think I would be this dead set on boymoding but the first time I put make-up on I cried because I look so bad and that alone probably set me back a decade or two.

>>40076191
I don't need an online social group validating my medical treatments lmao

>>40076161
effectively treating dysphoria with the availble means

>>40076231
> dysphoria
you just inserted a synonym for "wanting to be a woman" (in case of mtf) so it's still about that

>>40076259
*Wanting to be female

>>40076259
You are emotionally invested in that interpretation of dysphoria okay whatever. All or nothing mentality isn't really good for people from what I've seen. Lots of trannies end up getting worse after starting HRT and then sui because they got locked in on the being a woman idea which few can live up to

respectfully, im manmoding

>>40074354 (OP)
im gonna boymode until i have ba srs vfs done and actually look like a woman :D and you cant stop me :) i dont want to be seen as some sort of trannybeast!

>>40076321
buddy there's nothing to get locked in on. I just behave how I always wanted to behave, feel more secure in my personality AND get treated better by society at the same time

>>40076372
Wow that's exactly what I'm doing too cool

>>40076365
you do you, but if you developed confidence, your quality of life would improve immediately instead of in a few years

>>40076382
how would confidence stop me from looking like a trannybeast?
this i would like to know

>>40076365
there will still be a time where your mannerisms, gait, resonance etc will be untrained and you will be clocky. the only way out is through

>>40074354 (OP)
girlmode!

>>40076380
> so you always wanted to behave like a man, feel more secure being treated as a male by society and feel more secure in your personality presenting male?
the mental gymnastic required to still claim the trans label given these facts are quite astonishing...
(assuming you don't pass ofc, because if you do pass and "boymode", that's not boymoding you're just a shy woman)

>>40076382
confidence is not like your stats in an rpg that exist outside of reality, it is directly linked to how well you can handle situations irl. if you are a hon then most social situations will become instant hardmode as opposed to boymoding where people will mostly leave you alone. if you are used to hardmode then maybe it doesn't seem that bad to you but for those of us who already struggle with normal situations the stress of honmoding can genuinely kill you.

and i say this as a longtime manmoder with a successful career who recently got ffs and does not regret manmoding at all.

>>40076388
you may still look like a trannybeast, but you won't care anymore.
tbdesu you probably don't look like a trannybeast though so get that idea out of your head nona

>>40076414
You are obviously not that secure in your girlmode lol I'm just glad I don't live in that mental prison

>>40076417
> if you are used to hardmode
nona of course I'm used to hardmode I had to pretend to be a man and accept being treated as such for way too long

>>40074354 (OP)
no you don’t get it, i’ll just need one more year of boymoding, then i’ll miraculously start passing without any effort on my part. THAT would be the sign i can stop boymoding

>>40076059
>holy internalized transphobe yippie-a-yeah
This is why this board sucks ass now.

>>40076426
I feel more secure girlmoding than I ever felt boy- or manmoding, so it's still an improvement at the end of the day

>>40076478
And being a man on HRT has basically cured my dysphoria. Now I can just laugh when random trannies get pushy with the pronouns and makeup ideology.

>>40076502
> being a man on HRT has basically cured my dysphoria
congratulations low- to mild dysphoria haver! our situations are not at all comparable.

>>40076461
> unironically claims the "amab trans man" label
please leave this website and never come back xx

>>40076523
oh yeah I must be really missing out on the severe dysphoria! woe is me for I will never be a real troon lmao

>>40076424
hmmmmmm well i dont wear skintight clothes out at all because i dont want my boobs to be visible, buut i do have a selfie i took at home? im not posting naked stuff because thats weird! sorry! https://unsee cc/album#PlVTggLWZHxG

>>40076537
> I will never be a real troon lmao
I never said that. I'm happy you have found a solution to your problems nona :)

>>40076557
uhuh it was implied in you getting pissy about the trans label earlier

>>40076535
I wasn’t that anon, just wanted to decry how /tttt/ has lost its soul.

>>40074354 (OP)
i dont pass and i dont want to be called a travesty on the streets

>>40076542
Stop right there, validation seeker. I'm not gonna look at this.
Also why do you think I want to see you at all or even naked? I'm not a troonsbian. Go live your life as a woman and stop dwelling on what people say about your appearance on anonymous image boards.

>>40076572
>>40076567

>>40076587
>Go live your life as a woman
didnt i already say im gonna get all the surgeries and actually look like a woman first?
how would i live as a woman if i dont look like one!
>stop dwelling on what people say about your appearance on anonymous image boards
nono you misunderstand
my brainworms are entirely homegrown :)

>>40076448
sorry, but for some of us it's not enough to ask for she/her pronouns and wear dresses and just ignore the fact that everyone still treats us as men.

>>40076661
> enough
I'm still doing everything you boymoders are doing just with the added bonus of getting feedback in real life interactions instead of only online. It makes things much faster if you're that confident

>>40074354 (OP)
Social transition is difficult and I really don't want to be seen as a tranny

>>40074354 (OP)
>mtfbutch level boomerhon
how you gonna call me out like this

>>40076718
you're very out of touch

>>40076956
Most trans girls who got lucky in there transition or otherwise are

Boymoder balls sniff sniff

>>40074354 (OP)
im a gigahon no thanks

>>40076718
> the added bonus of getting feedback in real life interactions instead of only online. It makes things much faster if you're that confident
first of all no it does not make things faster because people are 1000x more likely to be polite to your face even if you are a gigahon monster. and second of all when you are irl there is the added stress of the current interaction affecting your career, your relationships with your family and friends, even being potentially dangerous. not exactly an ideal environment for self-improvement.

>>40077530
> not exactly an ideal environment for self-improvement.
oh is that really the case I thought everyone gets hatecrimed for being visibly trans?
> not exactly an ideal environment for self-improvement
nothing is ever ideal nona. the moment I trooned out, I accepted that I'll probably loose everything and become a trailer park prostitute with no friends and family if need be. I just needed to escape manhood as quickly as possible.
everything else that I get to retain from my pre-transition life, I'm infinitely happy about and grateful for.
(thus far none of the potential consequences you listed or I anticipated have come even remotely close to happening)

>>40077530
> people are 1000x more likely to be polite to your face
sorry this is should've been the first quote

>>40077726
>oh is that really the case I thought everyone gets hatecrimed for being visibly trans?
actually, i said nothing of the sort
>nothing is ever ideal nona
i never said it had to be literally ideal, you're just jumping on a turn of phrase i used.

i'm glad it worked out for you, really i am. but it just sounds like you're desperately trying to justify the course of action you took as the *only* course of action for some reason.

>>40077809
> actually, i said nothing of the sort
fair, that's true, but I think the added detail of real life contact makes you more aware about the little things
> it just sounds like you're desperately trying to justify the course of action you took as the *only* course of action
>>40076382
> you do you
I literally said the opposite of what you're thinking. I just think this is an issue of confidence.

>>40076059
>be me
>hon but decide today fuck it i'll girlmode
>get called a faggot 6 times
>have women giving me side glances and visibly avoiding me
>get assaulted
>"hm, maybe cis people don't see trans people as their desired sex"
holy internalized transphobe yippie-a-yeah

I don't even get how your dysphoria can be bad enough to justify transitioning and you'd still be willing to boymode. I tried for like six months and wanted to die every time I had to go outside and speak in a guy voice.

>>40074354 (OP)
why would you rather look like a woman or tranny than a teenage boy thats so dumb

>>40079050
No don't misunderstand I die inside too, that's why I stopped going outside

the mongolic ass replies in this thread are genuine proof we need to bring back lived experience to gatekeep medical transition. Most of you bitches would back out from transitioning if you were actually forced to do any meaningful effort towards it, the only reason you even take hrt is to follow a fashion trend and cosplay as trans online in your little t4t boymoder discords </3

>>40079300
No its because i wish i was 12

>>40079310
all the more reason you shouldn't transition, sweetheart. Hrt isn't some magic drug that'll make you younger

>>40079327
yes it is you cunt also too late

>>40078693
nooo just be more confident! your lived experience doesn't matter to this kind of person

>>40079300
why does that mean that? seems like you're projecting and can't back up your claim

>>40079398

>>40079310
Classical agp infantile regression

The reason agps dress like little girls, wear diapers, and become the object of their own attraction is because of abuse and neglect from their mothers


They want to be nourished and taken care of and think that transition will help them in receiving that care. Go suck on a binky you autoherosexual

>>40079473
your a rude coon I hope someone is mean to you today especially while driving

>>40079473
>think that transition will help them in receiving that care
They are correct. I take good care of my little

>>40079473
Im not attracted to my self and I dont dress like a little girl or wear diapers and I did this stuff at age 4 or 5 anyways you fucking NIGGER

>>40079432
Darling, you think I dont experience things like that? You think ive never been assaulted or harassed for being trans? Maybe if you grew thicker skin, you could just get over that part and just do the thing that'll make you happy. If boymoding is that much of a necessity for you maybe you should just not transition.

>>40079504
???????????????

>>40079499
>>40079483
>someone called out my bullshit better start hurling racial slurs, that'll show them

>>40079504
>just get over being alienated from your entire community, raped, sexually harassed and assaulted and maybe even murdered if you live in a conservative shithole
Do you think most people wouldn't girlmode if they actually could?

>>40079504
>if doing Y is necessary for you maybe you shouldn't do Y
That doesn't even make sense, lol

>>40079548
don't transition if you're so scared. I went through all of that too, Darling. you're not talking to some rich white girl who came out and had her parents and community accept her day one. All those things have taught me valuable lessons I could never get anywhere else. Don't transition if you can't handle it.

>>40079581
not everyone's transition has to look like your life of tragedy and that's okay. You just seem bitter other people don't want to suffer as much as you do, which is very sad.

>>40079581
for what actual reason do you believe people should suffer needlessly and be gatekept if they're not willing to?

>>40079600
>>40079601
Because it shows that your not serious about this. To transition you need to have courage to brave these odds you

I transitioned in a conservative shithole have been raped all kinds of things but now I pass and am much happier with life

If you cant face uncertainty danger and judgement then your too weak and ngmi

>>40079601
the reason you can't handle being called a faggot is because you're a straight white male before transition.
Please grow up. It's hard being trans, if you can't handle it, get out, yes I'm gatekeeping you but not because you don't want to suffer, because you can't handle the growing pains. Oh how I wish we lived in a perfect little fantasy world where no one is ever judged or mistreated for being what they are but we dont. We live in the real world and reality is harsh, so you go through the pains you have to go through and live out the rest of your life. You're weak and infantile like all agps are, of course. You were raised a straight moid but that's okay, darling, you still have time to grow

>>40079655
that doesn't make any sense, why would it mean you're not serious? why should people suffer more?

>>40079665
you didn't even try and answer the question lmao

>>40079670
>you didn't even try and answer the question lmao
the answer is yes, if you're too weak to handle being trans you shouldn't be trans.

>>40079687
the answer to what? are you a bot?

>>40074354 (OP)
DO NOT POST LOW RES
FAGGOT

>>40079716
I answered your question twice but you can't be bothered to read. English isn't my first language and I struggle expressing myself in it, but, I know said pretty clearly that if you can't handle the hardships that come with being trans, you shouldn't be trans.

>>40079755
I didn't ask a yes or no question lolll what are you doing

>>40074354 (OP)
I'm a manmoder because I'm a broke third world hon hon.

>>40079665
I'm okay with the world we live in, where you suffer and then I read about your deranged copes online lmao

>>40079774
you're being dense on purpose. I laid out the reason in your face 3 times now. If you can't handle the hardships of being trans, you're better off being a man. sorry for not having your white transbihon intellect. I'll do better next life and I'll be born in Seattle as a straight white tech nerd so I can join your polycule.

>>40079800
Wtf are you even talking about? Watch who you quote, blindhon.

>>40079483
>>40079499
Typical narcissistic agp man rage

i don't want to come out ever in my hometown and i also don't pass so

>>40079774
sorry not u, that was meant for >>40079769

>>40079581
Nah I'm not trying to get raped again or get murdered my an insane righteous. I'll girlmode gladly when it is save for me to do so because obviously I hate boymoding and putting on a constant performance, I don't think any trans woman should like it. but some do it to keep themselves safe and alive. being trans shouldn't entail suffering

>>40079655
It's just not how it works because you can cry all you want how people who havent been raped for their transition are not valid or whatever but it's not going to change what I do to my body

if you are such a mental titan you should be able to accept that lol

>>40079832
>>40079800
why does that mean that? why should someone suffer more to meet someone else's expectations? you are not explaining yourself or giving a reason, just repeating yourself

surreal
I'm afraid of you and how many people in the world might be like you because of the very real problem you represent

Girlmoding only works if your body looks good. Women’s clothing isn’t exactly made for broad shoulders and boxy ribcages. I would absolutely LOVE to dress like a woman, but I can’t because I look like a MAN. You know how badly I want to wear dresses and cute tank tops and short shorts? I’m so fucking jealous of women.

>>40079842
>being trans shouldn't entail suffering
well, but it does. sorry hon. it'll never truly be safe for you to girlmode, maybe you should just detransition at this point cause that's your safest option

>>40079842
>>40079655
What places are y'all going/in that you're getting raped so much???

>>40079873
it just happens, ppl see tranny and think easy mark. :/

>>40074354 (OP)
True, most people don't give a single shit, even if you're a hon too, just don't be a nuisance or an actual sexual predator and keep to yourself and be nice.

>>40079655
>If you cant face uncertainty danger and judgement then your too weak and ngmi
terminally malebrained will to power thing. unfortunately, you don't soulpass.

>>40079901
How does it happen so I can avoid it? Also what country?

>>40079901
Exactly non-passing trannies are seen as easy targets because no one will believe them. It can happen anywhere reallyy for example I was raped by an old classmate in my old school

>>40079823
Im a child

>>40079929
Did getting raped by your bully at school break your masculinity?

>>40079946
Wasn't my bully. And no I was trans before

>>40079952
How was it like? I swear I read so many stories of rape in this fucking board, how are y'all getting raped so much??? Are y'all just weak small pathetic framed trans girls?

>>40074354 (OP)
ok, then I guess this doesn't apply to me. I am a HON HON. Nothing about me screams feminine, and anyone who tells me otherwise is a goddamn liar.

Honmoding is fucking stupid for someone like me. There's no point when you're as ugly as me.

Bonus points if you're brown, not even white gigahons want to be around a brownie. I know how whites really feel about me being brown.

>>40079849
Alright stay as a man then
>>40079854
You dont have to suffer for someone else’s expectations but its clear you and most white agps prefer the safety of your battlestations weebshit and delusional honcopes than living in the real world. Transition entails hardship you want the comfort and safety that would entail being a hetero white male. Its clear you haven’t experienced the abuse and violence of being gay in a latino community
>>40079859
Then give up its over for you your just a man
>>40079911
Your clearly a sheltered caucasoid.. also theres no such thing as soulpassing thats agp cope
>>40079929
I got raped by a gang member who had spent 15 years in prison and knew where I live why would I go to the police and yes i passed when this happened

>>40079911
the cope is amazing.

>>40079976
If you havent been sexually assaulted you dont and will never pass. Sorry its the reality of being seen as attractive by men

>>40079976
>Are y'all just weak small pathetic framed trans girls?
I mean, yeah lol.

>>40079976
A large amount of people that visit tttt boards are, relatively speaking, mentally unwell, being raped often leads to being mentally unwell the numbers really are just skewed in reality most trans people probably don't get raped on a regular basis.

The story isn't anything interesting he was with a group of his friends on lunch break near me, didn't think much of it because we were friends then, started groping me, barely anyone was around, couldn't fight back against 3 boys you can imagine the rest

>>40080018
I don't want anything to do with men, and I definitely don't want to be sexually assaulted, I'm probably gonna carry a knife when I'm girlmoding if this can happen.

>>40080023
I'm average male height and have some strength, guess it must suck to be so small, weak, and pathetic, to the point you think taking abuse is completely natural and the obvious, most likely course of things.

>>40079991
>thats agp cope
get real every1 who advertises themselves as a hussy always has to sprinkle it in with something about "well im a woman because im just so naturally feminine like wow being a man was literally entirely possible for me because it was just so obvious im a woman"

>>40079991
>get raped by your fellow chudtinos
>I know I will cope by bickering with white trans people online
lol this is exactly why I had to distance myself from the latino trans community, they just can't seem to hold their own families accountable

>>40080134
Most of the latino trans community is composed of gay boys who were, both willingly and unwillingly, fucktoys for men their entire lives, so they decided to become "women", in truth they're just gay faggots who got their butt penetrated by their daddy, uncle, older brother and at school, sad.

>>40080134
Latin culture is the reason latinas make beautiful trans women and white trannies make ugly nerdy moids its because feminine gay latinos get bullied and ostracized so hard that life as a woman is easier and theyre families would rather have a daughter than a gay son. On the other hand Latino agps and non passers straight up just get hatecrimed and never accepted so they tend to stay closeted

Feminine white faggots get to be flamers and accepted so they often dont transition. While comfortable white hetero agp males get the freedom to become walking freakshows and white society will aplaud them

Its a social filter and how things should be

>>40079991
>You dont have to suffer for someone else’s expectations but its clear you and most white agps prefer the safety of your battlestations weebshit and delusional honcopes than living in the real world
...because I don't support gatekeeping with RLE?
what?

>>40080220
no woman seriously believes this it's just cope for living in a backwards patriarchal gang culture

>>40080220
i’m certain you can cherry pick some ugly ugly latina hons

>>40080220
no i think it's because all the unpassing ones just get murdered LMAO
https://www.brasildefato.com.br/2022/01/21/brazil-continues-to-be-the-country-with-the-largest-number-of-trans-people-killed/

>>40080251
I'm brazilian and those are usually just prostitutes who get killed like that.

>>40080251
Brazil has a high murder rate in general and a high number of femicide..

>>40079300
Are you sure you’re not just saying that so you can feel justified in socially transitioning without passing?

>>40079300
i had to do RLE to get my hormones but i just lied to my doctors about it
trolled!
i will girlmode once im post-ba post-srs post-vfs :3