Today I speak for transbians, gays, bisexuals, and of course lesbians and transgendered kind, I believe we are all of the same opinion when it comes to the Iran vs Israel war.
Before I say anything, let me say that this isnt easy for me to say. But the nature of politics is unfortunately not kind, and so kind solutions do not always exist.
First and foremost I offer all of our sincerest and deepest sympathies to both the Iranian and Israelian people who have already succumbed to this awful and pointless war. Before I say anything else I ask the people of Lgbt today to not just think with their hearts but also with their minds. In times of war we must be PRACTICAL. We need to be practical if we want the lgbt community to survive this war. And before I say anymore I would like to make it a matter of high importance that the number 1 priority should be the preservation of life on both sides.

Without further ado
I know many Islamic people, they are all wonderful people. And I know many Jews, who are also absolutely wonderful. But-..
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..-it is unfortunately also true that Islam it not capable of coexisting with western values WHEN the number of islamic people within a country grows beyond control. We are group A with A values, but if we are outnumbered by group B with B values, then soon A values will no longer exist, because it turns out that one of the core tenets of the B values is eradicating all other groups and value systems, this is an unfortunate truth but I cannot deny it.

As much as we do not condone the awful treatment of the people of palestine and Iran, we also recognize that israel is the only thing standing between europe and a European caliphate.
I know its easy to judge the people of israel harshly, but lets not forget that Judism is compatible with western values where as Islam is simply not.
That doesnt make their actions right. But it does justify some taxes going towards Israel in times of need, europe needs a shield, and a shield has to be well maintained, just like Ukraine has to be supported, so too does Israel. And its also rather rude to be indignant and uppity towards a warring state when we are not then ones being shot at with missiles every day. We shame a country for trying to survive in a region where everyone hates said country. Isn't that a bit unfair of us?
And so the council of transbians has decided to redirect the global boymoder fund and funnel it into the Israeli Iron dome, soon it will be a titanium dome, and its range will be approximately a thousand times further. Any attack from the middle east targeted towards the innocent and kind people of Europe will be shot down by the Israeli titanium dome.
Thank you for your time. And as always, our prayers are with both Israel, Iran and Palestine.

Israel only spreads chaos and destabilizes the region. It needs to be sanctioned like Russia was.

>>40095688 (OP)
Today I learned that "Libs of Tiktok" is a proudly orthodox Jew.
Sage.

>>40095716
From what I heard, Iran was making threats towards Israel, whilst building nukes.

>>40095747
wait why is the pic of taylor lorenz filenamed chaya raichik? o.0

>>40095909
Iran is already sanctioned. Israel has nukes and is a beligerent violent entity as mucb as any other arab state. There is a huge double standard and I don't believe in this euro/israelli supremacy because of that.

>>40095688 (OP)
>>40095695
youre an idiot. in irl trans spaces Israel is universally hated, I've seen people been hounded from them for daring to express support, and rightfully so. trans people do not support genocide we do not support exception, you are a remarkably unintelligent exception. death to Israel

>>40095909
they've been using this lie to justify the war for over 20 years now, Iran is perpetually "just weeks away" from developing Nuclear weapons

>>40095688 (OP)
>transgendered kind
ok boomer

>>40095975
So, do you want more people of Islam in your country? How many are you willing to accept into your grace?

Or is all you have merely empty words and platitudes?

>>40096053
I would accept as many as wanted to come because I am not a racist like you. In every highly developed, well educated country that allows freedom of religion religion is rapidly declining. Across the board, globally. Islam is sick but it's hardly any sicker than christianity or judaism, and the people born into it are not monolithic, not innately eviler or lesser, they're victims of an oppressive ideology that's strangled them since birth. just like you are. in time, given proper care and proper freedoms, they will shed their religion. In a couple hundred years all abrahamic religions will lose their influence and be looked back on as silly, ancient things, as they should be.

i would not deny people entry into my country on the basis of where they are from. even israeli's, believe it or not

>>40095909
From what I heard, iranians eat children and live under the beds of naighty jew children and are 9 feet tall

>>40095975
Israel is hated because jews are hated, and everyone just repeats the dogma they're taught. I don't know a single jew who is comfortable within lgbt spaces right now because it goes like this
>hello, because of your ethnoreligious background, you must pass a political litmus test that I'm coming up with on the spot and varies from person to person. If you fail to prostrate yourself sufficiently and cheerlead for terrorism I will make sure everyone knows you're a hook nosed rootless cosmopolitan chameleon who drinks the blood of christian babies
>we're just anti zionist not anti jew btw
Successfully driving away even the jews who have critiques of israel

My opinion is that israel is a colonial state that must be dismantled

>>40095975
Stfu worthless trash

>>40096100
I know dozens of jews who are proudly pro lgbt and anti israel faggot

>>40096109
Yes you Staasist I'm sure you keep sufficient tabs on your good jews

>>40095695
>But it does justify some taxes going towards Israel in times of need,
Israel needs to either commit to efforts to build a lasting peace with their neighbors or commit to the commit to the annihilation of their enemies
either way, no more half-measures

>>40096116
The average german was a nazi in 1939 that doesn't mean it was anti german to hate nazis

>>40096100
every jew i know loathes Israel more than I do and is ashamed of people like you. you are so blinded by zionist indoctrination that you can't see the truth right in front of your eyes. you're a bad person. in your world everything is the opposite. every accusation is a confession. you equate condemning genocide to "cheerleading terrorists", you label anyone who dares oppose ethnic cleansing and apartheid "antisemetic". Open your fucking eyes. You became the nazis.

the whole world is turning against you

>>40096141
Yeah the jews in your dumbfuck commie circles maybe, polls show that jews overwhelmingly support Israel. That is, if you actually know any jews at all which is likely made up in the first place

>>40096100
>Successfully driving away even the jews who have critiques of israel
they aren't being driven away they just need excuses for dumb goyim why they have to support Israel because jews are the biggest victims for all time

>>40096132
>>40096141
>hello I learned dogma that tells me that jews are the real nazis and not the people who want to murder all the jews and expel them from their homeland and commit terrorist attacks abroad
>btw I am totally even handed in this and am just as vitriolic about other states doing horrible shit including my own
There's literally no arguing with people this indoctrinated, because for them it's to absolve them of the guilt they feel for their own society's atrocities, they need to find an outlet for their shame and rage, and that means it must be pushed onto the jews, both Israeli and diaspora, it's not enough to hate Netanyahu's government, they must cheer for their friends and relatives being bombed, they must be comfortable with those who who clap at lighting jews on fire in the diaspora as resistance, and must keep all of it up in perpetual atonement.

>>40095688 (OP)
>>40095695
>The only thing standing between europe and a European caliphate
Holy kek
>We shame a country for trying to survive in a region where everyone hates said country
I wonder if the fundation of this country has a history or targeted actions against an ethnic group and a global power supporting terrorist groups to subdue a rebellion against it. I wonder if the policies of said country has tried to integrate different ethnic and religious groups living in it or if it's a settler state.
>>40095909
>Be me, iranian goverment
>Teocratic dictatorship
>In constant Proxy war with settler state that loves killing my generals
>Negotiate nuclear deal in 2013
>US crazy president pulls out in 2018
>Same pesident of the US wants deal again 7 years later
>"Idk bro I don't trust you"
>Get bombed by settler state with nuclear bombs about it

>>40096163
>Jews don't feel good near you
>Except the ones who do because they don't follow the bigger trend

Zionism is retarded sorry i don't make the rules, you don't get to colonize a place and complain the people there are angry at you
>But... But western values!!! They are compatible!
Abrahamic religions hated us faggots all the same until less than 100 years ago retards, you don't get to say we should support the murder of some because they are not profags and not others.
Also Israel doesn't have gay marriage retards

>>40096305
supremacist state is supremacist, fork found in kitchen

>>40096264
>their homeland
Wow their homeland that they inmigrated into during the last century
Anyways I agree there's no pretty solution and nobody should be cheering for people to be bombed, however it's disingenous to say Israel is just defending itself. I really think reconcilitiation is possible and wish the end to all wars

>>40095975
>trans people do not support genocide we do not support exception, you are a remarkably unintelligent exception. death to Israel

>do not support genocide
>death to israel
Interesting.

>>40096401
>">do not support genocide"
>">death to israel"
>"Interesting."
Israel is a kountry bozo

>>40096305
>point out jews overwhelmingly support Israel
>start incoherently sperging
Fuck Iran and fuck you faggot there is no 'us'

>>40096383
Daaaamn I guess jews grew out of the ground there in 1878 when petah tikvah was founded since they all only emigrated there in the 1900s. Must've buried a bunch've menorahs in the ground too if archeology is anything to go by.
But yes there's no pretty solution. I still want palestinians to be able to live in dignity and not have their lives sacrificed into the ideological meat grinder of Iranian proxies. There's plenty of Arabs who are already Israeli citizens and coexist perfectly well, anyone who says it can't happen is just straight up racist. The problem is the extremists on both sides who fan the flames and teach their children to be hateful and give their lives for some ideology

>>40096434
>uhm death to israel is just anti zionist not anti jew !
Do you see what I mean about how even jews who don't like israel ESPECIALLY Netanyahu's government aren't comfortable with this lol. Imagine you gotta share your lgbt spaces with these nutjobs that think palestinians should just infinitely sacrifice their lives towards suicide bombing jews and people will defend it

>>40096053
NTA but I already replied to the bait thread so might as well
I'm a thirdie so we don't get inmigration imagining that were the case, everyone is welcomed here the same way we've welcomed everyone else during history "but the inmigrants change the values of the country" idk how is it for you but they usually can't vote lol

>>40096459
It was a conclusión to the bigger argument, when I say "us" I mean 150 years ago YOU would've been stoned the same way by a jew, an arab or a Christian for being a tranny. Fuck Iran too tho
>>40096467
>jews grew out of the ground
Not gonna fall for more demography discussion bait again. I totally agree on the rest and that's the important part.

>>40096492
>">uhm death to israel is just anti zionist not anti jew !"
"Death to Israel" isn't even inherently anti Zionist ,just anti the politikal entity of Israel
Their reason given is that Israel is a genosidal kountry
Unless you're saying that Zionizm is inherently genosidal (a position that wouldn't seem to be unreasonable ,given what history has to show us) ,they are not even ,at least in that message ,anti Zionist (though they probably are overall)

>>40095688 (OP)
>I (a straight male) speak for gays, bisexuals and of course lesbians
I'm gonna stop you right there and ask you to ingest paraquat

>>40096619
Don't argue in bad faith, is "Death to America" against the political entity of the United States Of America or do the groups associated with it are related to violento acts against american citizens? It's the same with Death to Israel
t.Maldito seas estado de Israel

>>40096673
Death to Israel, Death to America, and death to you especially.

>>40096679
This is my goverment's official position

>Pro israel
Empathy pilled

>pro iran
Fake empathy pilled

>>40096604
Can disagree about the demographic shifts in the near east, but yes the more important thing is to be in agreement over the goal of Palestinian integration and normalization in the region while holding the government and army accountable for their actions

>>40096673
>""Death to America" against the political entity of the United States Of America or do the groups associated with it are related to violento acts against american citizens"
"Death to America" has been canted by Stalinist types and to them usually means death to Amerika the imperialist entity ,Amerikan kapitalizm and Amerikan kapitalits ,but not death to Amerikan workers (even those who prop up said empire)
In kontrast ,Islamic extremists mean death to the Christian empire of the US ,and not every Amerikan Muslim
However I will do you one better ,death to most Amerikans ,they are queerfobik skumbags that are rotten in karakter and position on every single issue ,and only make their kountry and the world as a whole worse via their existense and subsequent aktion

>>40096717
you are so based

I DON'T CARE ABOUT SANDNIGGERS

>>40096717
Fair enough I don't like americans either
>>40096724
Yet you still bited the bait

>>40096721
I try my best

>>40096724
holy based