We are INCHING closer (finally!) to a full hrt ban and the suspense is making me itchy.
Women will finally be free from predation!

>>40099995 (OP)
I don’t care about women or children just give us back our nerd shit.

>>40099995 (OP)
i don't think destroying people's lives because of things they didn't do is in any way reasonable or fair

>>40099995 (OP)
That would just lead more people to DIY

>>40100071
Hashtag MeToo

>>40100071
you aren't really listening at all to what others are telling you, I think the time for negotiation has long passed

>>40099995 (OP)
Bait post.

>>40100108
>"you"
i have pushed back against most of the most common talking points. i hear transphobes out. i spent a lot of 2018-20 making friends with transphobic people and hearing them out to better understand their side and hopefully help them understand mine.
you aren't punishing the people who didn't listen. you're punishing everybody with the same condition as the people who didn't listen. collective punishment is unfair, you cannot reasonably expect reasonable trannies to magically prevent the stupid ones from getting internet access, or to magically prevent randon men from claiming to be the same thing

>>40100141
calling me a transphobe is a thought terminating cliche

>>40100089
>ban HRT for all adults
>hmmm how come there are so many trannies
>go to the notorious hacking website known as 4chan
>see hrtgen
>oh they're just importing this shit?
>well let's just take care of that real quick then

>>40100089
>ban child transition
>most trannies can't figure out how to DIY because they're statistically dumb as shit
>even with more DIY it's a net decrease in child transition
Wow!

>>40101223
>ban HRT for all adults
BASED

>>40101195
ur capacity for thought has clearly been terminated for some time

>>40101195
it's just a descriptor that's accurate, if you read the rest of my post you will see i spent years hearing people critical of transsexuals out. believe it or not i am not incurious nor am i trying to be dishonest

>>40101311
If it were accurate, that would imply my reasons for opposing transgenderism are irrational and that's not true.
Lesbians don't want to fuck neutered men.

>>40099995 (OP)
bet you read spicy booktok recommendations and stink of fish on the bus.

>>40101353
do you only appreciate girlsmell when it’s produced by amab gock? Pathetic

>>40101353
i'm thinking of getting besha rodell's new book - she's an australian food writer and I really like her style
it's hard to find quality unpretentious food writing in america

>>40099995 (OP)
It's slow but yeah I think we're getting there

>>40101394
I do not appreciate smells, I like to be clean.

>>40101417
fair enough you live that truth

>>40101463
im actually fembrained

>>40101493
sure thing troonie

>>40101330
calling trans women neutered men is a thought terminating cliche

>>40099995 (OP)
Thank GOD. I'm so sick of troons and the normalization of them

>>40101330
im not using it in the sense of "irrational feer of trans people" nor does anyone else. it just means you are prejudiced against us. which you clearly are because you're using the actions of some creepy pieces of shit who won't take no for an answer to justify wanting to roll back the rights of all trannies, and celebrate their suffering. literally judging before you know them. before-judge = pre-judice
>>40101515
very true

>>40101515
the most unifying distinction about trans women though is their commitment to chemical/physical castration

>>40101353
I love fish!

cant wait till cis women with pcos who look like men arent able to access hrt.
actually this post made me realize that trying to publish intelligent thought on 4chan of all places is a stupid venture. i dont think i could get it through your thick brain regardless of the website anyway

Rooting for you, cisles-bro.
t. Heterosexual natal male

>>40102443
Why wouldn't they be able to? PCOS is a hormonal aberration, straying from a woman's natural development. That is the same case for transitioning. Any sensible medical body would see fit to treat a natal woman's hormonal disorders, while reducing the accessibility of hormonal treatment to a perfectly healthy man/woman.

>>40099995 (OP)
niggerfaggot

>>40099995 (OP)
I buy my own lole

>trannies try not to take obvious bait challenge

>>40103013
well, most are too lazy to do that

>>40099995 (OP)
kill yourself ugly faggot

inching!

>>40101555

Honestly, it's starting to feel chilling real... seeing more and more lesbian flagged posts celebrate each time a new news story drops is... kind of telling.

What was the deciding factor that made you turn against us? What measures do you think will be taken to eradicate us? I'm honestly willing to accept defeat at this point.

>>40103190
What makes you think lesbians would support men trying to rape away their identity?

>>40103190
speak for yourself. i want to live. i want to be human

>>40103208
live in the sewers

>>40103204

I don't see who I'm raping though i don't pursue women?

>>40103275
its metaphorical rape.

>>40103283

Can someone explain in more detail? I'm willing to listen

>>40103268
be real for one second. we both have to live in this society. besides, i didn't even do anything

>>40103288
its not my job to educate you.

>>40103275
gay men can't become straight women either

>>40102845
cuz its still hrt, gonna be very hard to fully ban it from trannies if you still sell them in masses

>>40103275
The moid LARPing as a lesbian that you’re responding to is incapable of understanding nuance or seeing trans ppl as anything as a giant rape collective. Stop trying to reason with a retard

>>40103304
>>40103314
>>40103283
>>40103338

I actually have stopped, i was just swooning because my degredation kink has been super active lately and got activated by this fake lesbian thread and I have BPD.

Yeah BTW any faggots who think they are going to get rid of any trans people seriously fails to consider what kinds of barriers we have to cross to transition in the first place.

>>40103376
>tell doctor u feel like a woman
>doctor castrates you chemically

>>40103383

You definitely are a chud and a male though you're just seething about it kek. Cis lesbian is just a clout identity because it's the apex of the LGBT oppression pyramid.

>>40103190
How do you know it's not just one person or a couple frequent posters? I wouldn't infer much from this board.

>>40103415
I support abolishing gender roles.

>>40103434

Okay then drop your discord, I'm psychologically vulnerable, why don't you see if you can use reason and logic to destroy my false sense of self? It would be fun.

>>40103190
>What was the deciding factor that made you turn against us?
The obvious delusion and how troons continuously try to push themselves into spaces for gay people. MtFs trying to force themselves into lesbian spaces, relationships, trying to force lesbians into dating them because if not it'd be “transphobic” and their whole life would basically be ruined because they’re a “bigot” for not wanting to fuck a man with a penis despite being into pussy.. If being trans is so great and something to be proud of, why don’t more trans people date each other and leave us cis homosexuals alone? That, along with the pushing into women’s sports, etc. It’s not just an issue for women, but also I’ve heard men complaining about it, transgenders pushing into their spaces. I also hate how so many transgender MtFs are basically misogynistic.


>What measures do you think will be taken to eradicate us? I'm honestly willing to accept defeat at this point.
Slowly, they’ll start removing transgenders from the media and erasing representation of them. Not immediately, but just slow enough so nobody notices immediately. Then they’ll probably make HRT and puberty blockers illegal unless for medical reasons, moving on to making SRS illegal or other medical procedures for transgenders, making it difficult to change your gender on official papers, and then just completely outright making being transgender illegal.

>>40103547
The very basic concepts of transgenderism are deeply homophobic.

>>40103556
Why do you think so? Just to hear your take on it

>>40103547

>why don't more trans date each other?

Your reply belies a lack of commitment, lack of understanding, or both. Trans women do date each other in huge numbers. I dated a trans girl and desu she was the partner I was most attracted to. Are you just typing "terf argument" into chatGPT? Most of this is totally stale. It doesn't hit. Telling me other unspecified trans people are going into undefined spaces doesn't do anything to explain to me why i am male and should detrans immediately. will grant you the sports thing sells, despite being old. But it's still about other people trying to do something obscure, not relevant to the average person.

>just completly making being transgender illegal.

Okay this is a good starting point, describe how it will go down. Paint me a picture.

In fact, let's do this..

Every lesbian flag in the thread post a timestamped hand pic saying fuck trannies or you will never be a woman. This should be good.

>>40100071
Exactly. That's why the tranny LIEdeology has got to be shut down once and for all.

>>40103766
how does that follow even a little? learn to read

>>40103659
>Trans women do date each other in huge numbers.
Rarely ever hear of or see that much. Most of them want cis men or women, if they call themselves a “transbian” (lol).
>I dated a trans girl and desu she was the partner I was most attracted to. Are you just typing "terf argument" into chatGPT?
Nope, wrote that with my own two thumbs. You dated a trans girl, good job, you’re now apart of like one of the eight transgenders I’ve seen be t4t.

>Telling me other unspecified trans people are going into undefined spaces doesn't do anything to explain to me why i am male and should detrans immediately.
That was not your original question. Your original question was what the deciding factors were that made me turn against transgenders. And you're a male because you were born with XY chromosomes. Literally, your entire body’s biology is written to be a male. It’s okay to be a feminine male, it’s okay to like dresses or dolls or things traditionally feminine whilst still being male. You don’t have to change your name and pronouns and try to make other people abide by it.


>Okay this is a good starting point, describe how it will go down. Paint me a picture.
I already did. HRT, Puberty Blockers, SRS, and changing your gender on official papers will become illegal. Transgender rights will be set back, the world turning its back on them, but along with them, LGBs will be dragged along. There’ll probably be a point in time where LGBs will want to separate from transgenders to preserve themselves, and people hate transgenders more than they do homosexuals or bisexuals. This will most likely cause a spike in more suicides or targeting of transgenders than ever.

>>40099995 (OP)
>>40101223
>>40101330
i like cis men and other mtfs only, sorry
>>40101417
>>40102811
>>40102845
>>40103268
>>40103547
>>40103684
>>40103796


hilarious that cisoids think its possible to ban hrt, all mtfs need to do is cut their balls off and take estrogen which is always going to be available and accessible because cis women take it for menopause now on top of it being extremely easy to compound and homebrew, the demand for endocrine specialists and trans surgeons is also becoming a booming industry with no sign of slowing, feminism and the gender shredder continue to accelerate creating more failed-male trannies further increase the demand for and profitability of producing hrt and providing surgeries, you cant fight kapital, god and the total erasure of the male sex. read the blackpaper lol, you literally cannot fight the tide without nuking everything back to the iron age and thats going to be a worse life for cis women overall than it is now, as long as quality of life increases men will become softer, their puberty will be delayed by birth control in the water and microplastic, they will be naturally less masculinized by living in modernity, they will seek out and achieve feminization through medical means, this will only, the news of hrt becoming less accessible that you cling to does not paint the whole picture.

>>40099995 (OP) (OP)
>>40101223
>>40101330
i like cis men and other mtfs only, sorry
>>40101417
>>40102811
>>40102845
>>40103268
>>40103547
>>40103684
>>40103796


hilarious that cisoids think its possible to ban hrt, all mtfs need to do is cut their balls off and take estrogen which is always going to be available and accessible because cis women take it for menopause now on top of it being extremely easy to compound and homebrew, the demand for endocrine specialists and trans surgeons is also becoming a booming industry with no sign of slowing, feminism and the gender shredder continue to accelerate creating more failed-male trannies further increasing the demand for and profitability of producing hrt and providing surgeries, its a feedback loop, you cant fight kapital, god and the total erasure of the male sex. read the blackpaper lol, you literally cannot fight the tide without nuking everything back to the iron age and thats going to be a worse life for cis women overall than it is now, as long as quality of life increases men will become softer, their puberty will be delayed by birth control in the water and microplastic, they will be naturally less masculinized by living in modernity, they will seek out and achieve feminization through medical means, the news of hrt becoming less accessible that you cling to does not paint the whole picture, trans girls will always find a way and only become more resilient and defiant, ensuring their own survival and propagation, just look at the increase in ROGD

>>40103796
>You don’t have to change your name and pronouns and try to make other people abide by it.
do you know what boymoding is lol
>I already did. HRT, Puberty Blockers, SRS, and changing your gender on official papers will become illegal.
if hrt is made illegal the black market will boom so hard, its also soooo easy to cook estrogen, you are clueless im afraid, you are obviously not really tuned in to the fact that alot of mtfs go overseas to countries like thailand (where they dont care about your baizhu terfism) for srs (srs is whatever tho, ffs is more important, and is also always going to be available cause its just plastic surgery lol, super in demand), also the official papers thing is a nothing-burger, only retarded trannies care about a letter on their passport, if you are dolled up with surgeries paid by cism chasers why would u care about ur passport gender (if you really dont like trannys u should try to cure cism from liking them so much and paying for their surgeries and stuff, but u cant, sad for u)
>Transgender rights will be set back, the world turning its back on them,
if you do see a dip in ROGD and trannies and a swing to conservatism and repression its going to come back and bite you even harder and totally crush even more femmy cis men into trooning from the pressure.
>the world turning its back on them, but along with them, LGBs
LGBs deserve it for being gross desu lol
>It’s okay to be a feminine male, it’s okay to like dresses or dolls or things traditionally feminine whilst still being male.
It’s okay to be a feminine male, it’s okay to like dresses or dolls or things traditionally feminine whilst still being male and pumping yourself full of estrogen and cutting your balls off and getting ffs to appeal to cis men and laugh at retarded cishon dykes who seethecope on tttt

>>40103796

I don't try to make anyone abide by it. I have never asked anyone to call me any pronouns I just tell them my name and let them assume. I haven't been misgendered in years and it hasn't ever come up at my work. Like honestly the conceit of someone demanding that they be "treated as a woman" is just the gamestop hon meme in real life.

>>40103926
>Yep! Another delusional tranoid fetish classic!
I pray to see a world where we don’t have microplastics in our food, hormones aren’t fucked up, and transgenders are rejected and eradicated en masse.

>>40104041
in that world cis women are treated like cattle and pederasty is still a thing, read a history book

>>40103796

Also this is a really cis male coded typing style and you didn't post hand so... you're the one larping as a lesbian woman here afai,

>>40104041
yes as i said you want to return to the iron age, do you really think in a world without advanced medicine and surgery, cis women would live better lives than they do today

>>40104037
>if hrt is made illegal the black market will boom so hard, its also soooo easy to cook estrogen. You are obviously not really tuned in to the fact that alot of mtfs go overseas to countries like thailand for srs, also the official papers thing is a nothing-burger, only retarded trannies care about a letter on their passport, if you are dolled up with surgeries paid by cism chasers why would u care about ur passport gender (if you really dont like trannys u should try to cure cism from liking them so much and paying for their surgeries and stuff, but u cant, sad for u)
>Lesbian flag
>Implying i care about what chasers (closeted fetishizer men) do.
????
This is about trannies. Cook as much HRT as you want, and get as much surgeries as you want to imitate what women have naturally. You still will be illegal (in the future I pray) and a beast among the normal populous when it’s all said and done.

>if you do see a dip in ROGD and trannies and a swing to conservatism and repression its going to come back and bite you even harder and totally crush even more femmy cis men into trooning from the pressure.
If we’re not normalizing men cutting off their balls and pumping themselves full of female hormones as well as getting filled with plastic, or women mutilating their vaginas and cutting off pieces of their forearms for a makeshift penis that nobody will ever want, chopping their breasts off for no good reason, making themselves insane, or even kids being told that it’s okay to block their hormones and go on puberty blockers (with the exception being early onset puberty), and that it’s okay to be a little fem as a boy or masc as a girl and being that doesn’t mean you have to mutilate yourself, none of that would be happening.

>LGBs deserve it for being gross desu lol
Gross? Look at your kind!

>>40104037
I like how with troons you can ALWAYS pinpoint the exact moment where their delusion becomes a fetish.
>It’s okay to be a feminine male, it’s okay to like dresses or dolls or things traditionally feminine
Normal
>whilst still being male and pumping yourself full of estrogen and cutting your balls off and getting ffs to appeal to cis men and laugh at retarded cishon dykes who seethecope on tttt
Fetish

>>40104045
I'm talking about the future whilst you are talking of the past?
>>40104052
>cis male coded
Because a woman disagreed with the troon
>>40104064
I did not say I want to return to the Iron age, retard. I said, as in my response here >>40103796 that surgeries and medication for hormones and whatever will only be legal for medical reasons. I didn’t mention eradicating advanced medicine or surgeries as a whole? Where are you getting this?

ok i’ll bite the bait, this won’t do anything to protect women because most sexual predators aren’t trans women and they’re going to do what they wanna do regardless of the law.
>i-if we just ban HRT it’ll totally stop the guy who was planning to perv on women

>>40104153
sure its a fetish but it makes my quality of life significantly better to be medically feminized, you cannot imagine the suffering of being a feminine man without having access to medical feminization, surgeries etc... people are nicer to me now, men treat me better and care for me and I look prettier, younger and am more agreeable and less of a risk to myself and others. Why is any of that bad,

>>40104176
>I'm talking about the future whilst you are talking of the past?
im sorry but as long as people are able to exchange value and money for goods and services it will always be possible for effeminate men to actualize and maintain their beauty and happines with medical feminization. There is alot of money to be made from mtfs, that industry will not die, if anything it will grow stronger, especially in the private realm. As long as people have liberty and freedom there will be trannies. What you want is essentially lesbofascism but im afraid I dont see that happening, its a nice dream for you to have though. It fills me with glee to know im booked to get FFS suuuupeeerrr sooooon and i get to doll myself up and live in a liberal country where hrt has no chance of being banned, and even if it was, i could make it myself. I hope that makes you mad

>>40104213
You know what? I give you this one. I think society does need to be more nicer to people. It'd save us a lot of trouble from mental illnesses, like this one. We also need to normalize, idk, going to therapy. Having support systems.

>>40104041
> Praying for genocide

You've become an evil person. Shame to let yourself end up this way.

>>40101195
>DONT CALL ME TRANSPHOBE WEHHHH WEHHHH
>is transphobic

i hate troons as much as you do but this libtard jew way of saying things is the reason you deserve to be raped by troons in the bathroom

>>40099995 (OP)
Really? I didnt know this executed all men?

>>40099995 (OP)
>midwit good goy that read all the anti-tranny propaganda
>”lesbian”
>will probably have 13 white children by 35
Alright girls the “lesbian” lifestyle is next so idk what you’re excited for.

>full hrt/gac ban

its ok cus there's loopholes for freaks like me to still get GAC/HRT/surgery/etc.
but lol good luck everybody else

> (2) EXEMPTION.—Genital or bodily mutilation or chemical castration is not a violation of this section if such genital or bodily mutilation or chemical castration is conducted with respect to any of the following individuals:
>“(A) An individual with both ovarian and testicular tissue.
>“(B) An individual with respect to whom a physician has determined through genetic or biochemical testing that the individual does not have normal sex chromosome structure, sex steroid hormone production, or sex steroid hormone action.
(HR. 3492)

(double edged sword though; some young intersex kids will get forced procedures early even though other older intersex kids/adults may get choice/loophole)

>>40105800
i think if it happens im actually just going to border jump to canada i think that's just what's left at that point