I think I’m just going to become a transbian or something. I don’t want to be a woman at all but i think it would be nice to cuddle with a vaguely feminine humanoid before I die.

>>40100664 (OP)
>women achieve more independence
>heteronormativity stops being rigidly enforced
>men and women stop dating entirely
hm its almost like society was the way it was for a reason

>>40100714
No, that gap is being greatly exasperated with burnout from dating apps ruining romantic interactions, the gendered sociopolitical issues, and the antisocial dark age taking place currently. The loneliness epidemic is taking place in countries where heteronormativity is still being rigidly socially enforced too

>>40101429
if dating apps are the problem why don’t ppl stop using them

>>40101473
The prisoner’s dilemma is responsible for like 99% of the world’s problems right now.

>>40101429
Yep. And the worst part is, the worse the dating app the more addicted to it I become. Taimi is absolute fucking garbage, but because it's feeding me a constant supply of male attention I can't put it down.

>>40101473
What's the alternative?

>>40101528
Just saying "game theory" doesn't really explain it.

>>40100714
>men increasingly become right wing extremists who want to subjugate women
>women stop wanting to date them
>men blame feminism

>>40101528
>>40101706
the alternative is meeting ppl in real life, I know lots of ppl who met their partners in college or wherever

>>40101711
>wokeAI chatbot take
flag checks out

>>40101746
>get confronted with the truth
>can't think of a response so you just call it woke

>>40100714
>>40101711
it's literally just women not being able to cope with having to do the same emotional labot then men have to do in a relationship
stop trying to make this a political thing

>>40101711
it’s natural for men to be right wing in a capitalist society, to be successful you need to be narcissistic selfish and power hungry and those traits don’t exactly align with believing in equality

>>40101764
why should I respond to someone who is a LLM in human form?

>>40101725
Sure, where do all the single guys who are okay with trans women hanging out these days?

>>40101711
People like you don't seem to understand that JK Rowling is nothing new for me. That's what feminism has always been to me, and still is to most men.

Sensible people know that we need to stop blaming each other, and work on good gender relations. Those people are called "pickmes" if they're women or "MRAs" if they're men.

>>40101810
I mean some trannies still go to gay bars but really I’m talking about normie straight ppl which is what the op is about

>>40101769
>it's literally just women not being able to cope with having to do the same emotional labot then men have to do in a relationship
This is the exact opposite of reality. Women by far do more emotional labor than men.
>>40101810
>People like you don't seem to understand that JK Rowling is nothing new for me. That's what feminism has always been to me, and still is to most men.
>Nazi hates feminism
Imagine my shock. If you didn't have your trip on I might have humored your argument

>>40101746
>women straight up tell you what they want
>NO women want me to keep calling them evil whores and look down on them
You're literally the problem here. I've started dates and friendships with women because I shared my interests and had decent opinions on women's rights. This dysgenic caveman attitude is why you don't get pussy and jerk off to anime faggot

>>40101847
>Women by far do more emotional labor than men
men are trained to show no emotions precisely because women do not tolerate doing any emotional labor in a relationship

>>40101847
>lalalalala not listening
How do you people manage to convince yourselves everyone except you is the problem?
Like what is the actual mental process whereby you wake up in the morning and say to yourself "I am perfect and I judge everyone else based entirely on their similarity to me."

>>40101823
Those are really more CDs than actual trans women.
I would totally go to a place where I could just meet single guys who wanted to meet me. But single guys prefer a drink with the boys around the x-box.

And I don't blame them. We're all fucking sick of each other before we even meet.

>>40101882
>women straight up tell you what they want
You don't speak for all women idiot.
And Anon doesn't answer for all men.

>>40101921
This is unironically true.
Male emotions = danger.

>>40101882
> I've started dates and friendships with women because I shared my interests and had decent opinions on women's rights
Holy ick

>>40101473
>if dating apps are the problem why don’t ppl stop using them
If you look at the data dating apps are required to present to their investors rather than the marketing data spammed here, turns out people ARE using them less every year.

>>40101940
>How do you people manage to convince yourselves everyone except you is the problem?
>Like what is the actual mental process whereby you wake up in the morning and say to yourself "I am perfect and I judge everyone else based entirely on their similarity to me."
Why should I bother arguing with a nazi? You won't listen. If you did listen you wouldn't be a nazi.
>You don't speak for all women idiot.
You're the idiot if you think that most women will tolerate dating someone who doesn't want them to have equal rights, but you are a trans conservative so that tracks.
TL;DR Kill yourself posthaste

You don't need to troon out to get female attention

>>40102041
>Why should I bother arguing with a nazi?
You're not arguing at all. You're just attacking anything and everything that's different to you.
Everyone is evil except you, and we all need to recognize.
>You're the idiot if you think that most women
So we're down from "women" to "most women" so that's progress. Eventually maybe we get to you speaking for you, and everyone else speaking for themselves.

>>40101473
Because feminism made approaching a girl anywhere outside of one social suicide.

>>40101725
once you get out of college and have to see how the real world works you'll understand why apps are a thing

why do women whine so much? entitled like jews

>>40102217
I am out of college, lots of people meet through friends or at parties or elsewhere online like instagram

>>40102508
>parties
kiss your sister

>>40102144
>You're not arguing at all. You're just attacking anything and everything that's different to you.
>Everyone is evil except you, and we all need to recognize.
I never said I was arguing, I specifically said I won't argue with you because I've seen your post history and I know you can't be reasoned with.
I also specifically said that if you were anonymous I would have argued with you.
>So we're down from "women" to "most women" so that's progress. Eventually maybe we get to you speaking for you, and everyone else speaking for themselves.
So you genuinely believe the majority of women would date men who want to take their rights away? Because that's what I'm getting from this. If so you're wrong.
There's irony that you're arguing that I can't speak for women, when you speak for men in your very first post in this thread. Despite supposed not being one.

>>40102216
And women love this to bits
It's wonderful for quick-picking by physical traits

They can go shopping for boys and filter out the sub-90th percentile FILTHY SCUM KILL ALL MEN ICK STINKY UNWORTHY FREAKSHIT males, get tired of the last one that meets criteria, and then get a fresh new PLAP on

>>40102631
>Because that's what I'm getting from this.
Why I'm getting from this is INTENSE internalized transphobia masquerading as misandry.
>when you speak for men in your very first post in this thread
No I didn't, I literally talked about my own experience with dating apps and how they're affecting me personally.
You turned it into the gender war, which is NOT helpful.

And yeah I absolutely do bitch about men sometimes and women at other times. But that's not political, that's just me having a vent.

The politics is - holy shit dating is fucking broken. Like seriously what the fuck is going on? I have a queue of "99+" guys on taimi and the ONLY person I've managed to actually get a date with was an egg ready to crack. I'm going through like 5 a day at this point.

This is a real problem. Not a chance to score a point.

>>40102676
>And women love this to bits
I hate it.
It's impossible to judge someone based on a single pic. So I'm saying yes to everyone, which has turned into an astounding time sink.

And the worse the app is the more attention I get and so that's the one I use the most.

>>40102765
>I have a queue of "99+" guys on taimi and the ONLY person I've managed to actually get a date with was an egg ready to crack. I'm going through like 5 a day at this point.
Maybe the problem is you're a hon. It's very easy for attractive trans women to get men. Some even make a career out of it.

>>40102765
>Why I'm getting from this is INTENSE internalized transphobia masquerading as misandry.
Then you're as crazy as you are stupid, which is par for the course for a far right tranner.
>No I didn't, I literally talked about my own experience with dating apps and how they're affecting me personally.
My mistake, it was in your second post that you spoke for most men.
>People like you don't seem to understand that JK Rowling is nothing new for me. That's what feminism has always been to me, and still is to most men.
>You turned it into the gender war, which is NOT helpful.
This was always going to be a gender war thread, because women are fighting for their rights against an increasingly misogynistic male populace.
Men are mad that women don't want to date them, and react to this by threatening to take away their rights.

>>40102864
what new rights are women fighting for besides the one about killing their babies (which isn’t anything new)?

>>40102827
>Maybe the problem is you're a hon
Yeah probably. But there's plenty of guys into non-passing trans women.
>It's very easy for attractive trans women to get men.
I don't believe you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNiZZd-IxfA

>>40102864
>it was in your second post that you spoke for most men.
By giving my own experience in a way I thought you would be able to relate to. Y'know, so we can actually find some common ground.

>Men are mad that women don't want to date them
But women DO want to date them. This is actually a valid of "most women". Most women are heterosexual, and most people desire intimacy, and EVERYONE deserves to feel loved.

The "increasingly misogynistic male populace" are being attacked, by you, and are reacting defensively. That's normal human behaviour.

Rational, intelligent, loving, non-evil people try to find common ground for peaceful co-existence, not mutually assured destruction.

I keep hearing that men suffer from patriarchy too, but I don't actually see anyone doing anything about it.

>>40102864
That graph literally only shows South Korean men getting drastically more conservative. The biggest changes are women for the other 3. You just disproved yourself. Good job.

>>40100664 (OP)
you dont need to become a transbian to get with transwomen

>>40102961
Hussies are just women tho and I’m a manlet.

>>40101711
>men increasingly become right wing extremists who want to subjugate women
This is literally the natural state of men. Men are more basedboy estrogen leftist faggots now than they've ever been in the entirety of human history.

>>40102973
and im short aswell but i can probably get with a trans woman
im 170cm
hbu

>>40101847
>Women by far do more emotional labor than men.
Hey, how often do you hear women saying how annoyed they are from their husband bitching about the people at his job nonstop?

>>40102864
Can you not read charts? You posted a chart of women becoming liberal at 2-3x the rate of men becoming conservative.

>>40102927
Who are you to say anything about rational, loving, non-evil people. Aren't you an actual white supremacist?

>>40102988
my parents bitch to each other about this stuff i dont understand why everyone doesn't just do that. why marry someone you don't genuinely love?

>>40103006
Lol. No.
I just don't care what people call me.

>>40102927
>By giving my own experience in a way I thought you would be able to relate to. Y'know, so we can actually find some common ground.
What are you even talking about? I know most feminists are like JKR and I don't relate to men so how are we supposed to find common ground exactly?
>But women DO want to date them
Of course women want to date men in theory but most women do not want to date men who are becoming increasingly conservative.
>The "increasingly misogynistic male populace" are being attacked
They deserve to be attacked. They need to change.
>I keep hearing that men suffer from patriarchy too, but I don't actually see anyone doing anything about it.
The thing people are doing about it is trying to dismantle the patriarchy. It's not feminism's fault that every time they create an example of what men should be like, men get angry and defensive.

>>40103055
I meant to say aren't like lol

>>40103018
I try hard to believe it's just an internet thing. Angry bitter people bitching about the other gender just to vent. I try really hard to keep believing that

>>40103107
i don't think so, ive met people like this irl. i think its just that the majority of marriages are toxic and give their children a toxic view of gender relations as a result. that's why some people like me almost can't believe how bad it gets - im from a good family bubble

>>40103055
>I know most feminists are like JKR
Really? How are you so different?
Joanne doesn't hate us because we're trans. She doesn't believe in trans. She hate's us because we're men.
That's exactly what feminists, like you, looked to me when I was pretending to be man. So from a man's perspective you and JKR are the same fucking thing.

>>40103055
>women want to date men in theory
Not in theory, in real life.
>to date men who are becoming increasingly conservative
This is not a valid use of most women. This is you talking for you. YOU don't want to date conservative men. Personally I find politics to the anti-romance, so I don't care as long as they don't involve me.
>They need to change.
And here we are again with little miss perfect demanding everyone change to suit her while offertin no concesions herself.
They have the right to defend themselves when attacked. You are attacking them. They are exercising that right.

And that's going to keep happening until people like you put down your guns and open your hearts to the suffering of others.

>>40103126
Maybe? My parents get along well too so I don't get it

>>40103139
lucky us i suppose

>>40103143
No I wish I was dea.. I mean yeah in that one thing haha

>>40103152
oh yeah i mean im my case it is very lucky because i wouldn't have been able to transition when i did without a good family

>>40103166
Good for you, nice

>>40103136
I meant to say most feminists aren't like JKR, because most feminists support trans rights, and most feminists aren't misandrists either. Just because her voice is loud doesn't mean she represents the majority of people.
If men feel threatened by feminists then they are the problem. Feminists simply demand that men stop being misogynists, if that's threatening then they deserve to be attacked.
>This is not a valid use of most women. This is you talking for you
Fine then, what's the reason for the supposed "male loneliness epidemic" since you speak for men.
If men are misogynists they should change, feminists aren't Israel, they don't attack unprovoked.
>And that's going to keep happening until people like you put down your guns and open your hearts to the suffering of others.
We are very receptive to the suffering of others. For men, their suffering if self-inflicted. You can even see it for 4chan, the same men who complain about being lonely are the ones advocating to take away women's rights.

>>40100664 (OP)
>Men are becoming lonelier and more isolated
>Women most affected!

I love being gay and getting to just check out of all this self absorbed gender war bullshit. Sucks to suck lmao

>>40103274

>>40103274

>>40101847
>Women by far do more emotional labor than men.
Where does this idea come from? I'm far more likely to hold my sobbing wife than the opposite, and far more likely to listen to her fears about how her coworkers must be talking about her behind her back, how much my mother disrespected her during a family Bananagrams game, etc. I see this concept quite a lot in the NYT comment section as well, but it seems inverse to reality. Maybe it changes when a couple has kids?

>>40101711
>women want socialized everything and open borders
>Literally a net negative on the national budget
>blame the only group that is a net positive on the national budget
No wonder men are staying single

>>40101746
https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/01/the-gender-gap-in-politics-why-do-women-vote-differently-than-men.html
>So did women move away from Reagan and his party in disgust? No. Rather, women’s emerging belief in their own political entitlement permitted them to stay right where they were. “Reagan struck a chord with men, so men moved in a more Republican direction while women stayed put,” Carroll says. And in the wake of Reagan, Carroll says, the parties remained more polarized, helping to harden men and women’s party identifications.

>>40103685
>Everyone quiet, Carroll has a shitty take
Btw, did you know the entire world isn’t a single country with a two party system called the United States?

>>40102864
>Men are mad that women don't want to date them, and react to this by threatening to take away their rights
Makes sense, don't see any other way to react. It cannot be understated how important it is for the average male's belly to be full and nuts to be empty. If either of these things are thrown out of balance then total collapse is imminent.

>>40103018
>why marry someone you don't genuinely love?
Seems like most people get married to the first person that regularly touches their genitals for more than a year or two.

>>40102793
You're playing the game wrong. Men are for quick raunchy sex in between your girlbossing. Get with the times tradwife.

>>40101725
yeah okay and after college?

also, a lot of those people I met who coupled up in college dont seem too happy with their parents and just seem to be under the impression of having to "Find someone"

I miss when if you were single beyond 20 the entire neighborhood would work together to get you a spouse

>>40103055
>It's not feminism's fault that every time they create an example of what men should be like, men get angry and defensive
That's kind of the exact definition of "feminism's fault" bruv. If feminists can't convince men that it's in their best interest to "dismantle the patriarchy" then they have failed.

>>40101810
>Sure, where do all the single guys who are okay with trans women hanging out these days?
I'm usually at home alone if I'm not at work or running errands. Everyone else has paired up and moved on.

>>40103809
crazy. that's the least important part of a relationship!

>>40100664 (OP)
this is sensible. good luck, anon.

>>40100714
yeah and it going away is based

>>40101711
>men find reasons to dislike women now pressure to date them is off
you that clueless?

transbianism is a godsend along with discord desu, the best dating app ever

>>40104329
>>40104239
This is so fucking retarded fuck off you groomers you don’t need to be a troonsbian to be with trannies

>>40104384
you are an idiot lol

>>40104570
How? Please explain so

>>40104757
scroll through grindr right now. its an absolute bloodbath for masc tops and while i sympathise with them i also understand why t4t has become a very dominant social norm in trans circles.

>>40101776
Based machiavellian response. Fighting should be against the capitalist system at large.

>>40101823
Why would a straight tranny go to a gay bar to meet someone? Also people arent talking with each others at bars anymore.

>>40102864
Wait, the graph show everyone becoming more left but then something happen that made women more extreme and men more centered? How is this mens fault?
*except koreans

>>40104913
Women finally took off the mask and admitted they see men like the average person sees a factory farmed animal. Men finally woke up enough to not hit the snooze alarm on whether they just might have some kind of basic dignity and worth to themselves outside of being a slave or sustenance to the female race.

>>40100714
NOOOOO 8 billion is too small we need 16 BILLION PEOPLE NOW

>>40103643
>Where does this idea come from?
Utter disregard of men's emotions.

>>40100714
>>40101746
>anime nigger's opinion is a shit take
no wonder you're unfuckable

>>40105086
You know people can have relationships without kids right?

>>40105086
>no one with education breeds
>replaced by hordes of jeet and "refugees"

>>40100664 (OP)
Ive been doing some mankeeping myself lately.

>>40105086
based knower. normies are fucking parasite brained cancer cells

>women would rather be alone than emotionally support their boyfriend/husband

>>40105315
And this Le good because some men evil before planes where invented

>>40105315
know your place moid
you're not allowed to have emotions

>>40105331
You are an evil witch who is probably batting

>>40100664 (OP)
>emotional labor
Women say this shit like putting up with their nonsense isn't exhausting too.

>>40105331
>women complain forever about wanting men to open up
>they get the ick when they actually do this
>they redefine the term emotional labor and use it as a reason they don't have to do this anymore
jumping ship and trooning is just the right call

>>40103221
>and most feminists aren't misandrists either.
You are tho.
You've been spouting misandry this whole time
>If men feel threatened by feminists then they are the problem.
Misandry
>For men, their suffering if self-inflicted
Misandry

You are blaming men for being the victims of a system that
1. they are not in control of
2. that to the degree you have any control you are making actively antagonistic to them

>what's the reason for the supposed "male loneliness epidemic"
A lack of compassion, a lack of love. Just generally accross the board. We, and you are the examplar of this, have become a hateful, spiteful, mean people.

ALL the gender war has actually managed to achieve is to punish the young for the sins of the old. And the result is definitely not going to be something you want. There are 10-15 year old boys who are listining to you and people like you, getting amplified by social media, telling them that a man is
>a conservative mysogynist trying to take away women's right who deserves to suffer.
So when they grow up and attempt to become a man, what model of masculinity are they going to choose? Yours? because that's not going to go well for women is it?

>>40103891
>I'm usually at home alone
Where is home, and what sort of security systems do you have?

women sux

>>40101429
Nah your also wrong. Women have more options to pick from and get a overinflated ego due to the attention they get online. Why are they majority of young men and single women are the minority? I'm not going to drop some BP truth nukes but to sum it up the main factors that cause this fucked dating market is the liberal social landscape, globalization of the dating market through online dating, and the internet which feeds into women's particular narcissism or attention seeking behaviors that is somewhat innate in their biology. Your right on the lonliness epidemic being a factor but even if we somehow manage to fix it that wouldn't solve the dating crisis.

>>40105548
*majority of young men single i mean

>>40100664 (OP)
>caring for or even talking to your male partner is "labour"
>ewww I have to talk to my bf?
Why are roastoids so awful?

>>40101711
>wanting borders and, unlike women, not celebrating women killing kids at 9 months is "rightwing extremism"
In reality, white women are rabid, deranged, retarded commies, and men are getting sick of them finally. The antipathy is very mutual.

>>40107330
Zero consequences and infinite resources. They're spoiled five year olds with the death note and a box of crayons.

>>40101711
the western world is deeply matriarchy, and feminism is women supremacy.
>>40101776
Traits like narcissism and sociopathy are extremely overrepresented on the political left.

>>40101847
>Women by far do more emotional labor than men
lol Women absolutely hate having to support their partners. That's the article is about even.
>referring to it as labour
You've never cared for another person in your life, have you?

>>40101882
>had decent opinions on women's rights
Murdering babies isn't a "right," sociopathic transbian simp. Kissing the feet of the women who rule western society is just pathetic as well.

>>40102864
>, because women are fighting for their rights against an increasingly misogynistic male populace
Groveling simp, they're getting hysterical about their matriarchies being challeneged and them having a harder time murdering their babies.

>>40102864
Why are you transbians always such absurdly misandrist, dishonest cunts? Women dominate here in the west. There's no challenege to "women's rights" besides some restriction on abortion.

>>40101711
lmao I love how delusional the replies are. 4chan was not ready for this trvke.

>>40107330
Maybe if men didn't have the enotional maturity of a 3yo they wouldn't call it "labor" I'll not be surprised if the birth rate collapse had more to do with the fact that women don't have the emotional energy to raise a second child besides the manchildren they call boyfriend/husband.

>>40102864
I have never seen this pic posted and an anon taking women's side before and arguing that men are bad because they don't like communism and abortion. /tttt/ really belongs on reddit.

>>40103685
>slate
Predictably, a complete inversion of reality. Obviously, women have gone extremely far left.

>>40105315
>they are presented as victims because their bf's want a hug sometimes

>>40103221
lol Every single feminists is utterly callous to the welfare of men. You're all misandrists, without a single exception. Even normies have figured out that feminism is a supremacy movement that exists to trample on men and keep them down. I don't know why you even bother shilling here with such obviously lies. Who do you think you're fooling?

>>40107424
you're a ridiculous retarded commie simp, though. Western women have gone off the deep end, and you've followed them.

>>40107432
In reality, as others have mentioned itt, the men in your lives do far more for you, support-wise, than you do for them. You really just hate caring for others.

>>40103221
lol Every single feminist is utterly indifferent to the welfare of men. You're all misandrists, without a single exception. Even normies have figured out that feminism is a supremacy movement that exists to trample on men and keep them down. I don't know why you even bother shilling here. Who do you think you're fooling?

>>40101711
>biggest trvth nvke on the board
>seething schizophrenic replies

>>40100664 (OP)
>she has to hug her bf when he's upset and perform this labour without any payment at all
Are we supposed to sympathize with her?

>>40107566
How is not worshipping abortion "subjugating women"? In western matriarchies, with them receiving favorably treatment everywhere, how are women oppressed?

>>40107523
>no rational thought detected
>chimp out observed
do have anything of import to say about op's claim? i've talked to women and yes, lots of them say it's a Russian roulette these days and you never know if a guy is chuddy so trusting men is impossible in the current climate. unless you have known them personally irl for a long time, of course. there is a trend for seeking dates in hobby groups and real life acquaintances, abandoning dating apps.

How is not worshipping abortion "subjugating women"? In western matriarchies, with them receiving preferential treatment everywhere, how are women oppressed?

>>40107537
Don't go there if you actually care about men because they, or even other woman in their lives, can do the exact same thing and men become useless trophies in the best case scenario.
>>40107551
I will post this just one time. The only reason as to why feminists did this it's because they care about men, if not they will be doing a lot of other things than to care about what they do or think.

>>40107591
I think chuds mostly avoid the type of leftist, women-supremacist, abortion-obsessed women you associate with. Because, you know, they're awful.

>>40107592
>>40107612
this is probably another indian astroturfer but it still blows my mind that there are people in western, nominally "democratic" nations who have these bizarre superstitious views on abortion

>>40107612
I don't think the demographic you're describing exists beyond anti-woke memes. And before you ask, women don't date you because you're insufferable and think they are inferior beings. This is the gay board, go back >>>/r9k/

>>40107628
I guarantee you he's a 16 year old pajeet. Too retarded to be anything else.

>>40107628
Brainlet, what matters in this context isn't the issue of abortion. It's how women prioritize killing their above any other political concern. They, on average, get absolutely hysterical about any restriction. Being able to kill at 9 months soon won't be enough for them. And you're doing it too itt, making excuses for evil obsession and pretending that you're living in some handmaiden's tale dystopia. You're ridiculous, and honestly, not fit for politics. I'm tired of humoring you. You're simply too dumb and deranged for this.

>>40107635
lol Look at the graph. Look at the dem party's politics, or that of any other leftist party. Look at any feminist group ever. Look at how they scream like madmen over abortion. Hell, just look at the graph in the picture that I posted. Naked women supremacy. They think that rules and norms should only apply to men and that men can't be victims when women are involved.

>>40107697
Schizo

>>40107719
>>40107649
Retarded, pathetic simps.

>>40107722

>dem party's politics
>>40107628
I think he's worse than indian. I think he is, god helps us all, american

>>40107664
I wish your mother had done the needful with a coat hanger instead of waiting until you were viable before shitting you out

>>40107783
I wish you'd do the world a favor and jump from a tall building, male feminist.

>>40107913
how old are you?

>>40107635
>letist women scream about hating men and how they think women cheating is a-ok
>this group doesn't exist, chuddy

your groveling won't make leftist women won't hate you any less, trannies.