Is dating as a tranny easier than dating as a short man? There are millions of chasers but NO ONE chases short men. The suicide rate for short men is sky high too.

>>40103995 (OP)
Dating as a trans woman is easy as-is. Like cis women, they too have plenty of options and are allowed to have high standards. You are correct that no one wants short men. Men who are not taller than average are reviled by women, trans and cis. Dating is not harder for anyone than it is for short men.

t. manlet

>>40103995 (OP)
>Is dating as a tranny easier than dating as a short man?
Yes unless you're a hon or an srsoid

>>40103995 (OP)
getting sex? easy

Finding love? impossible

short kings need state mandated tall boyfriends women are demonic

>>40103995 (OP)
tell you what OP, since you're a manlet, just troon out and if you pass ill fuck you

Short men get ignored

Trans women get raped and killed.

>>40104230
source???

>>40104230
So do short men
You think jamal is choosing to rob or beat 6'5 the rock lmao

>>40104246
50 stories this year alone anon

>>40104251
Oh wow, so when you go on a date you'd worried you'll be raped and killed, just because you are short?

>>40103995 (OP)
>chasers
All male. If you just want men then you can simply hop on grindr and get all the dick you want without becoming a tranny.
If you don't want men then becoming a tranny won't help.
Trannies can sometimes get real female gfs but usually those trannies were also fucking women before they trooned.

>>40103995 (OP)
Why do threads like this exist? Is it over if I’m 170cm
All I want is a tranny
>>40104423
But how? How can a fucking troon be less of a virgin than me?

>>40104405
Im worried I'll be beaten or robbed by virtue of being small
Short Guys don't get dates lmao

>>40104438
Troons are low inhibition chads. That's why they can decide to do crazy shit like take female hormones and go outside wearing slutty girl clothes.

>>40104438
>Is it over if I’m 170cm
>All I want is a tranny
Probably. I say this as another manlet. Trans women HATE us.

>>40104447
>Short Guys don't get dates lmao
Sadly true

>>40104473
Well it isn’t certain
I will try until I die
Otherwise fuck this shallow world
>>40104472
Massive ass bitch

>>40104447
Unfounded worry.

Just wear heels

>>40103995 (OP)
>Is dating as a tranny easier than dating as a short man?
no
>There are millions of chasers
and yet not a single one of them loves trans women, only the cock that comes with it. the moment you get srs all attention from chasers drops (for the better, they're disgusting)
>NO ONE chases short men
tall women and other short women, theres absolutely a market, just put yourself out there
>The suicide rate for short men is sky high too.
not related to dating but sure, trans women have the highest suicide rates

>>40104473
>>40104438
I would kill bunnies to be 170cm.

I'm 180cm and my life is over

>>40104572
LOL. I guarantee you there are more people who would date a tall trans woman than would date a short man.

>>40104579
I dont care, I wanna be small. I wanna look up into my man's eyes as he holds me, feel tiny as he snuggles me from behind in bed.

I dont want to look directly into his eyes, it makes me feel AWFUL

>>40104561
basedbasedbasedbasedbased, guys plz start wearing heels, top host in japan does it!!

>>40104572
>>40104572
And how is this suppose to make me feel good? I don’t want to be a woman
Sorry your life sucks aswell

>>40104599
Are you a virgin?

>>40103995 (OP)
dating as a decent looking tranny is very easy compared to dating as anyone else, and the short man dating experience is incomparably worse.

Though as >>40104036 said, it gets a bit harder when you get SRS since now you dropped in status from the rare girl with a dick (dating on creative mode) to a regular cis woman (dating on easy mode). But that's still much easier than dating for most men and especially short men

>>40104631
>regular cis woman

>>40104599
And I as a short man will never be able to provide that for a trans woman. Your odds may be bad, but mine are nonexistent.

>>40104631
>dating as a decent looking tranny is very easy compared to dating as anyone else, and the short man dating experience is incomparably worse.
Thank you

>>40104631
It’s cruel
I now it’s whining but why can’t we whine about an unfair and shallow system
I hope whoever made it this way eternal hellfire

>>40104636
in terms of dating prospects, yeah

>>40104572
Hello there. I like tall women
I am 160

>>40104631
>rare girl with a dick (dating on creative mode)
>cis woman (dating on easy mode)
eww you're gross, you peddle incel talking points while also being a cock fetishist

>>40104637
>And I as a short man
simply become a short king, this is entirely an attitude issue
you need to stop trying to act tall and start acting like a man

>>40104654
I'm a short guy who likes tall women also. They still want taller men.

>>40104655
>this is entirely an attitude issue
I don't walk around with a chip on my shoulder. I don't think attitude matters at all. Cis or trans, a woman will see I'm not tall enough and that disqualifies me.

>>40104655
>incel talking points
>man up
Yeah fuck you
Are you the one that wants a tall bf
I hope you do get one and he leaves you for a cis woman
Maybe you will learn to be kind to others

>>40103995 (OP)
>There are millions of chasers but NO ONE chases short men.
I guess I'm just not here?

>>40104668
you've already decided that you've lost
im realising this now talking to you
i truly hope you grow to become less self-defeating and incelish in the future

>>40104405
>Oh wow, so when you go on a date you'd worried you'll be raped and killed, just because you are short?

This happens if you tell her you are 186 25cm muscular gigachad. But when she arrives there is supper fat sub 150 smelly freak.


Never hide your trans status to people you want to meet

>>40104681
I’m not him but threads like this make me want to cry
Thankfully I have a lot of resilience, but I feel terrible for my kin who don’t. Fuck this world I hope dating is either eradicated and something new is made or it is completely changed and allows an equal and fair fotting for everyone

>>40104654
Do you know why I can't date you? Because I would be jealous.

I'd constantly be thinking "why can't I be your height?", we'd go out and I'd be thinking imagine if you were as tall as me and I was as short as you and I would be sad. I would be sad. You'd love to be my height, as a man, every woman would want you. And I'd love to be your height as a woman.

Why is God so cruel to me

>>40104655
These aren't incel talking points, it's simply the fact that girls with dicks are in very high demand from fetishists and in low supply. And the fact that all dating apps have like 3 times more men than women and all men are more desperate than women so it's also easy to date as a cis woman

>>40104695
Yeah you stupid dumb prick, you'll tell a guy ahead of time and he arrives with 5 of his friends and kicks the shit out of me and horrible people like you say "womp womp sucks to be you ", fuck off

>>40104680
Wtf are you?

>>40104723
nonbinary person with a slight size fetish

>>40104707
Look at that another way.

I wouldn't leve you. ;)

>>40104732
You wouldn't be able to, I'd use my long arms to stop you!

>>40104707
But why is that bad? Why can’t you date shorter man? It’s not like he is getting fucked by you
Just give it a chance
Just with any short man

>>40104697
I know, anon. It's tough for guys like us. Especially those of us who love taller women. May they one day love us back.

>>40104717

So you don't want disclose being trans and risk being killed by a transphobe? Girl most people like that wouldn't even message you. If you really think that 6 retards would want to waste time on cute hon.

Instead of using dating sites just allow me to protect you

>>40104670
calling dating as a cis woman "easy mode" is an incel talking point yes
and i admit i was being a little facetious when i was telling him to "start acting like a man", but fact is that women like confidence more than height, short guys expend so much energy to try to act tall when they could just own their body and have much more success. i personally know lots of short (5'2-5'6) guys who made this shift and almost immediately found success

you jumping immediately to curse my dating prospects without taking a step to consider what i was even saying makes me think you're someone who gave up because they had no success from approaching the dating environment with incorrect assumptions, and is now resentful of anyone they see as "having had a better chance than them"
i hope you grow to be better in the future and let go of all this bitterness in your heart

>>40104712
the reality of dating as a (cis) woman is that most men seek to use you for sex instead of wanting a genuine relationship, i understand that this is the case for lots of women on dating apps too
the balance might be skewed but the amount of people actually willing to date among either population is pretty much even. we just have to wade through more dirt to get to the people who actually want to date
if you treat fetishists who want to treat you as an object for their paraphilia as legitimate partners then you need to readjust your way of thinking, sex is maybe 10% of what goes into a healthy relationship

>>40104740
Hot. I wish I could hug tall girl. I was always shorter than anyone else so I am trained to look up

>>40104760
Wtf, did you even listen. IF YOU TELL PEOPLE AHEAD OF TIME THEY'LL ATTACK YOU

Its safer to meet in public, where there are cameras and witnesses and say "hi I'm trans, is that OK?" Then judge their reaction.

But people like you want us killed and attacked and tortured and I won't give you the fucking chance, not meeting any men, all out to cause harm and misery

>>40104767
I dated a 6'0" trans girl once. I can vouch that hugging a tall girl is peak.
>I was always shorter than anyone else so I am trained to look up
This, 100%

>>40104762
Well I respect you because you aren’t simply making fun of me because I can’t get laid and I’m sorry for being a bit mean but it’s the literal reality it’s easier to date for woman it’s like biological they make the babies. Also like I haven’t really even tried aside from a few trannies on discord I just get bitter when someone mentions height because it logically makes me very insecure

>>40104772

>IF YOU TELL PEOPLE AHEAD OF TIME THEY'LL ATTACK YOU
Ok so you think that you are so ugly that you need multiple people to be around for men not to kill you?

You look like a pedo or what?

>>40104790
my height makes me insecure too (5'11 trans woman), everyone has something about their bodies that gives them brainworms that tell them they won't ever do x or y
best you can do is try your best to not listen to them and do those things anyway

>>40104826
But like I don’t know if I’m fucked because i would like to date some tranny than me who is a bit taller like your height

>>40104423
as a transbian I can tell you cis female chasers absolutely exist and they're not as rare as you think lmao

>>40104472
>transitioning into a woman proves that I'm a chad alpha male, actually
LMAO

>>40104842
What is your cis woman body count

>>40104841
tall women liking short guys is a niche interest for sure but its not like they dont exist
i think you should keep putting yourself out there and working on your confidence

>>40104849
I don't remember. lost count.

>>40104803
No, live in a horrible county where trans people get attacked and stabbed all the time


Go away, you make me so miserable

>>40104856
But like that is still just optional
Beggars can’t be choosers
I wish I could choose but I have no choice
Like except black trannies (STDS) or old hons

>>40104873
Life isn’t fair
But whatever good for you I’m sure you made them happy with your tall tranny dick

>>40104767
I'd love a hug right now and we're the same height sitting down anyway, so that's a great excuse to cuddle on the sofa

>>40104790
>it’s the literal reality it’s easier to date for woman

No, it's easier to get sex, its very very difficult to find a good man who wants to commit

>>40105441
Well then it still an improvement
We don’t get sex easily aswell

>>40104762
>women like confidence more than height
>I know a guy I swear bro
LMAO

>>40105462
I've been fucked by footballers, I'll be honest with you, sex is boring, causal sex is so horrible, yeah its great for 30 mins then what?

To someone starving, a tin of beans is heaven. To someone who has only eaten a tin of beans for the past year, its a form of hell.

I want a husband, I want someone I can care for and cares for me. I had this one guy say to me "yeah we can have sex and ill leave you with good memories", like wtf is this crackhead thinking, telling me ahead of time he's gonna ghost me after fucking me and thinking this is smooth, then I asked what's the shortest and longest time he's waited for sex, he said one day and 3 months, and thats a huge red flag, so I called him out on it and he got defensive. Because that's just a time waster, imagine spending 3 months with a man, building up that rapport, then once you sleep with him he fucking leaves to the next woman. What a scumbag.

And this is why I won't let a man near me anymore

>>40105515
Yet I’m the one starving
It’s not really fair is it?

>>40105528
Both of our needs are going unmet, and it causes immense psychological pain.

Society cannot continue like this, living in hell is torture

>>40103995 (OP)
Its easy, either get limb lengthening surgery or rope, those are your options as a short dude.

im a 5'5" fella and tbhon it hasn't caused any problems in my dating life. the majority of people i've dated/been with are my height or taller, the tallest being 6'1". not surprising, but in my experience, women are generally pickier regarding height than men. that said, i don't think it's a problem. everyone has their own preferences, and if my height is a dealbreaker, then it just wasn't meant to be.

id go as far to say that i think my dating life is easier than a trans person's. i think my height actually works to filter out a large number of superficial people, so i usually feel pretty good that my date likes me for ME. i probably land fewer dates, but i generally find them to be pretty high quality. correct me if im wrong, but it seems like trannies gotta deal with way more chasers and fake people on the dating scene. that shit would drive me bananas

>>40105603
>i think my height actually works to filter out a large number of superficial people,
This is cope

>>40104563
Short women want tall guys and tall women want tall guys. Tall women get angry when short women date tall guys and they get stuck with the manlets. Nobody is chasing short men other than maybe gay guys looking for bottoms.

>>40105603
>filter cope
kys you fucking retard

>>40105619
Short women dating tall men is greedy, rude, vulgar, unnecessary, damaging, harmful, and wrong

>>40105536
Well hope it will be destroyed soon
>>40105600
Stfu

>>40105618
>>40105624
ok i'll think of u on my next date bro

>>40103995 (OP)
I'm 5'6" and only one guy I've been with has been shorter than me.

>>40105603
If you were taller more people would like you for you.
>>40105670
Even trannies agree and don't want to be stuck with manlets, cause they are bottom of the barrel choice when talking about men.
>>40105681
Sorry but that is just the truth, guess you can add trooning out to make the list complete lmao.

and another manlet incel pitty party thread, just stfu and go back to r9k

>>40103995 (OP)
probably? it's rough out there for short men i used to be one but dating as a tranner isn't easy either

>>40104473
173cm here barefoot and had plenty of women. I am handsome though.

>>40104032
>>40104670
It's not your height, women don't even care about it. It's your attitude and internalized toxic incel believes that are screwing you over. Just treat women as human beings, it is not that hard. The bar is actually in hell...

Awww, don't worry guys, I am sure you can find a women in her 30s with 2+ kids that will settle for a short man

the height thing is from nigger women because theyre like 5'10 on average, human women never complained until we relinquished our entire social net to niggers

my brother only dates racist asians

>>40106334
genuinely true I have no idea how people don't know this

I lived near Oakland for 4 years in the late 90s and *every* negress was obsessed with height and money. it was like a different world

its all they talked about, all they played was the No Scrubs over and over

now its spread to Beckys

>>40106077
of all the physical attributes, cishet women care about height the most. that's statistically confirmed. but you're right that the vast majority of cishet women would overlook a guy being short if he's not a subhuman chud

>>40106356
>in the late 90s
What are you doing here unc go hang out with your wife/husband

>>40106359
it was like 9 to 13 or so, give me a break

just a simple gay guy who's fat enough to crush twink backs

>>40106366
You're still old lol

>>40106357
No they are not overlooking it, they are just filtering out all of the short men.

>>40103995 (OP)
incels keep talking about how only face, height and frame matters but its actually their rotten personalities that make people not want to date them

>>40106591
truthnuke
this whole damn thread is just incels seething

Tranners should just bite the bullet and fuck some incels so they finally shut up imo.

>>40106640
No, incels don't want to fuck women, they want to rage

>>40106077
only came here for this, this shit-tier troll response always gets (You)s, keep up the good work!

>>40106591
foids will say shit like this and still have a tall bf

>>40106945
I fucking hate them all so much

>>40104472
Horrific

>>40104668
Just get fucking ripped and massive

>>40107004
Brother is gonna look like a tree stump lol

>>40105429
Are you on troon spawner?

Short guys are so annoying, like sorry people don't think you are attractive. Honestly makes me want to go on other boards and make threads shitting on manlets

>>40104472
This.

>>40104842
Yes.

>>40107670
google just keeps getting shittier and shittier

>>40107455
What's that?

>>40107694
>>40107670

Is that SOPHIE?

I am neither short nor heterosexual, so I don’t really have a dog in this fight. I’m just chiming in to say that all the MTFs who are utterly dismissive of short guys’ problems are doing a fantastic job of passing as cis women. You’re really capturing the simultaneous entitlement, delusion, and misandry perfectly. Please get hatecrimed.

>>40107894
yes its from a leaked mv if i remember correctly

>>40108203
God I need to be slim and hot

>>40104230
>>40104251
robbers know if they rob a women there will be white knights to protect her, nobody gives a shit if a short guy (or really any guy) gets robbed or attacked.

still even as a guy on the shorter side but not extremely short, I'm shorter than most guys, but still taller than most women.

>>40108256
Yeah thats like being a passoid, people will defend me until they realise or find out I'm trans.

People are shit. God I wish I was short

I WISH I WAS SHORT AND SMALL AND TINY

FUCK

>>40105798
I always thought there was that unspoken exception that everyone agreed on that tall women (5'9+) were allowed to be more picky about height.

>>40108466
That is true, it's mostly tall women seething that short ones take 'their' tall men.

>>40107670
Wtf link to vid?

As a short (5'4) man who dates cis and trans women. It has literally only ever been trans women who get weird about height. I have never had a problem dating cis women, they have never made rude comments or acted differently. It's really just shit you see online.
I have multiple trans women act weird or insult me though.

>>40109900

>>40106077
lmao, men are conditioned to want to please anything that remotely resembles a woman, that is all it is and ever was, men are not inherently desirable

>>40104230
...by themselves

>>40105924
lmao r9k has more troons than lgbt

>>40106077
I love this bait, you can tell because I replied

>>40109958
Holy kek hahahahahahah

>>40106077
Lying and ignoring a problem will make it worse

>>40104563
>tall women and other short women, theres absolutely a market, just put yourself out there
What.

>>40109958
Lmao, another victim of her own brainworms

>>40109900
Brainworms here would suggest that every guy under 5'10, or every Asian guy on the planet should just transition or become a gay bottom.

Honestly it's just a fucking gross way of seeing things. It makes these roles more about "you are a lesser person because you failed to appeal to cis women" Makes it all more about this punishment and humiliation angle.

>>40107884
Discord server
gg/mtf

>>40104230
Triggered all the manlets lel

>>40112602
I take solace that they are just mentally ill and insane

The truth is that women don’t hate you because you’re a Manlet. They hate you because you’re not white. Most white guys are at least 5’10”. I’m a grass toucher and the only people I see that really qualify as manlets are Mexicans and Asians.

>>40104473
I had a date a couple of months ago

>>40103995 (OP)
hon dating ie hardervto date men

>>40106077
Lol, gay tard is clueless abt cis relationships, shocker

good lord this thread is miserable to read
go to r9k and cry there this incel shit is sad to see
>people unironically blaming women for not wanting them when their personalities are this noxious
grow up holy shit its only your fault that you're still a bad person

>>40114279
I think they banned me

:(

>>40115796
>women date men who beat, rape, and kill them
>But u can't get dates because of ur purse uh nal uh tea!
Fucking monolith lmao

>>40116297
Some women find themselves in a relationship with a man who turns violent and are trapped by them.

This is somehow making you the victim. I fucking hate men

>>40116297
>nice guy virtue signaling in response to getting rightfully called an incel
the irony is so thick in the air i could cut it with a knife

As you can see in the thread, many trans women do not like short men. They know that this is inherently a shallow view to have, so they must insist that the short men are toxic, incels, etc to justify themselves

>>40116393
>its womens fault that they aren't able to ignore my rotten personality and step into a beartrap of a relationship
if any part of your argument for why you aren't getting dates is blaming your demographic that you're trying to date, it's you thats the issue not them

>>40116422
Exhibit A

>>40116368
>>40116386
Women's excuses for why incels can't get paid fall to pieces once you look at the men they actually date. They know this so they call you names when you bring it up.
>>40116422
This is retarded. Trans women have trouble dating because of transphobia for example. It's not wrong for a Trans person to acknowledge that.

>>40116422
>I am trying to date in a conservative area and this is difficult
>No it's your fault don't blame the demographics that means nothing kys
Retard logic

>>40116446
What you say is false, but let's run with it.

If woken would rather be with violent rapists than you, what does that say about you? You are less desirable than the worst humanity has to offer, and this is somehow everyone else's fault

>>40116446
What you say is false, but let's run with it.

If women would rather be with violent rapists than you, what does that say about you? You are less desirable than the worst humanity has to offer, and this is somehow everyone else's fault

>>40116523
It's not about fault. The blackpill has never been about fault. What it means is that in spite of my personality and the risk I expose women to, I'm less attractive to them, so women's attraction can't be based in a morally righteous attraction to personality or driven by a desire to be safe. Additionally, women aren't capable of detecting these personality flaws in the first place. Women are primarily attracted to immutable physical characteristics, like height. This isn't really anyone's fault, but that extends to me. It's not my fault that I can't get laid. Stupid hole.

>>40116555
>it's not my fault I am repulsive

This should be the banner on incel websites. My dad was 5'5 and managed to have two kids, what's your excuse?

nta
>40116555
>blackpill
so you're not even trying to hide that you're an incel
this whole post is some crazy mental gymnastics
>Stupid hole
such a nice guy btw ugh why dont women wanna date me!
what a loser lol

i hope you grow out of this phase some day and start to actually better yourself, youll find that you in fact are capable and deserving of receiving love and attention, just that right now you're too poisonous to even let anyone in to have the chance of giving you that

>>40116605
My excuse is that outliers don't disprove the existence of trends. Again, the way if talk about short men struggling to date is exactly the way I'd talk about trans people, disabled people, racial minorities in white areas, etc. struggling to date. The backlash to incel discourse can only be understood as a failure to critique masculinity. There's very strong resistance to the idea that when men try to date, we don't have absolute control over the outcome. It's not just about turning ourselves into the best version of ourselves, but our success is determined by the social conditions we live in. This is really the problem people have with what I'll call the strong version of the blackpill.
>>40116620
I'm not actually an incel or short. I just didn't argue it because she wouldn't believe it. The blackpill solidified when I fucked a girl right after I told her I thought Houellebecq was right about the sexual revolution. It solidified again when I started working in big law and saw my dating pool explode. I am actually, unironically the bad guy that women date anyway.

>>40116640
>"not my fault i cant get laid"
>"so i was fucking this chick..."
what a larp

>>40106077
This is 1,000% true about short men’s dating issues, but I wonder how many MTFs recognize that it’s also true about their dating issues.

>Wahh wahh no straight cis men / lesbian cis women want me. Wahh wahh they find me repulsive. Wahh wahh I got threatened and beaten.

Skill issue. Fix your personality and everything would obviously be fine. You are literally the same as the short men ITT whining and you need to recognize that.

>>40103995 (OP)
yes?

studies show that short men are deemed much less attractive on the dating market, make less money on average due to discrimination and are more likely to suffer from depression

>>40116640
So we've gone from "its biological preferences that are unchangeable" to "the social circumstances determine who ends up alone and happy"

So which is it, are women hard driven to find you unattractive, or can they actually find you attractive in the right circumstances?

>it's whatever explains away why I'm repulsive at any time

Imagine if you put this much effort into your life

>>40116713
>Imagine if you put this much effort into your life
truthnuke

>>40103995 (OP)
oh nice a news article that makes the man the bad guy for a trait they can't control. you love to see it.

>>40117416
>they can't control

Take finasteride