Sure, MTF transition is cool and all, but FTM transition is heavy metal. There's a reason we're called manmade horrors beyond comprehension. But you women wouldn't understand what that means.

>>40127872 (OP)
"Yeah well my situation is worse" said the horse in tar to the horse in tar

>>40127872 (OP)
mtf = harder to pass, easier to get surgeries
ftm = easier to pass, harder to get surgeries

>>40127925
Where did I say it was worse?

>>40127932
How is it harder to get ftm surgeries?

>>40127872 (OP)
Trvke, nonas usually don’t even inject or get a surgery lol, I just can’t think of anything more stupid and weak, mentally and physically, than a trans “woman”

>>40127968
It's more expensive, there are fewer doctors who do it, and has higher risk of complications.

>>40128045
Excluding top surgery this is true, unless you wanna count the number of well known actually good surgeons for top surgery

>>40128060
Trans women don't even need to get a top surgery.

>>40128067
That isn’t what anon was saying lol
But yeah it just adds to how they’re wimps and cowards who can’t inject or withstand a surgery or just stop manmoding already, instead they seethe about afabs all day here, genuinely just disgusting cock loving faggots with a fetish

>>40128089
pooners love cock too though? most of them are gaydens and going on T only makes them act more like cocksluts

there is no such thing as FTM transition, AFABs cannot be trans

>>40128106
Eh, idk, didn’t really happen to me, I feel like my sexual interests became even more malebrained somehow
Of course faketrans fetishist pooners are insanely annoying as well, just not as much as the hons because they don’t make 1 bajillion seething threads about amabs every day
>>40128138
Like this for example

>>40128153
>Like this for example
its not seethe its a fact

>>40127872 (OP)
Why are you not posting in >>40120257

>>40127872 (OP)
>trans women don't understand what a male puberty is
Granted mine was pretty weak cause I intentionally kept my balls heated from my craptop but still.
Either way we both have "double puberty" so I don't see the point in trying to separate horror from the horror of horrors

>>40128158
Sure, and what’s your source? Insane egocentricity, victim complex and inability to imagine why someone wouldn’t want to be weaker and less privileged? You probably think you’d live life on easy mode if you had a vagina lmao, it’s not because of your sex that you’re a lifeless retard

>>40127872 (OP)
Life is nightmare mode for all of us so I don't like making comparisons like these.

>>40128176
>Insane egocentricity, victim complex
EXTREME projection
>inability to imagine why someone wouldn’t want to be weaker and less privileged
by saying this you are just admitting your reason for """transitioning""" is not because of gender dysphoria (which you are not capable of experiencing) but rather because of a victim complex, like every other AFAB who pretends to be trans
>You probably think you’d live life on easy mode if you had a vagina lmao, it’s not because of your sex that you’re a lifeless retard
unfortunately as an afab transtrender tourist you cant really begin to imagine what its like to experience genital dysphoria, your entire understanding of transgenderism is purely social

>>40128045
And the bottom surgery options for ftms genuinely just suck

>>40127872 (OP)
The reason they don't understand is because they're men and see you as woman.
I just look at retarded sheeting ITT.

>>40128235
>amabs see afabs as afabs
>afabs see amabs as amabs
wow, shocking

>>40127872 (OP)
>Sure, MTF transition is cool and all, but FTM transition is heavy metal.
What do you mean by heavy metal?
But yeah you guys tend to have better results and pass better.

>>40128223
LLOOOOL so many assumptions and all were incorrect, have fun honmoding though idk
I don’t need to justify myself to you, but just know you’re wrong and only one of MANY narrow minded, self victimising shut ins who think their fetish is worthy of acknowledgment in the real world. In the rare cases that a MTF is not just an autistic fetishist, I will respect and treat her like a man should treat a lady, unfortunately that’s not you. You don’t deserve my 1 incher stupid faggot
>unfortunately as an afab transtrender tourist you cant really begin to imagine what its like to experience genital dysphoria, your entire understanding of transgenderism is purely social!!1
Ah, so I was right, you do think your life would be perfect if you were just born female, and due to your retardation you are unable to comprehend someone doesn’t feel the exact same way you do. Every time!

>>40127872 (OP)
i can't even begin to comprehend being ftm as a mtf but i still love u guys anyway and i'm sure u feel the same about us

>>40127872 (OP)
i can assure you i am a manmade horror. probably within comprehension though

>>40128045
>>40128231
>Mtfs have better and less expensive bottom surgery, that actually has a research done on it million times by now
>Ftms face more complicated and costly bottom surgeries, often with more complications that can be really dangerous
>Yet, it's mostly ftms who want bottom surgery and suffer from bottom dysphoria
>Every single mtf who cut off their dick is regretting it now, literally suicidal because they're dickless and have to stay like that forever

Every single mtf adores their "gock".
I don’t think AMABs can experience bottom dysphoria at all.

The real win is not having genital dysphoria yet being trans

>>40128330
>>Every single mtf who cut off their dick is regretting it now, literally suicidal because they're dickless and have to stay like that forever
Who are you talking about? SRS has very low regret rates. I have encountered very few people online who regretted it, anecdotally, and a lot more talking about it positively.

>>40128418
Most people i've seen regret it feel that way due to complications or pain, not missing their gock

>>40128267
>so many assumptions
proceeds to: assume I honmode, assume i want your "one incher", etc...

you are not a trans person, you are a trender and need to go back to instagram

>>40129351
Nta but calling people a trender in 2025? Lmao girl come on

>>40129444
every single AFAB on this board is an evil trender who learned the word transgender from tiktok or instagram reels who is here only to destroy

>>40129474
you're malebrained.

>>40127872 (OP)
Scuse me boys don't own being metal. Growing up a girl then having to become a man socially is pretty hardcore tho. Also the arm graft penis thing
>>40128388
Me when I just choose not to think about the thing that makes me feel bad. This may be pure bunk but I credit dissociating & just refusing to see my body as me w not developing genital dysphoria or an eating disorder
>>40128562
agree but I think some are just freaked out by the permanence of the choice too & don't trust their own judgment. Like not so much immediate revulsion/regret as just they were expecting some big catharsis or self recognition

>>40127872 (OP)
i don't give a shit i purged myself of you retarded competitiveness along with all other testosterone-fueled instincts
you can be heavy metal what do i care thats shitty music anyways my transition was elegant and more akin to a goddess statue being slowly chipped from marble
you're a sweaty concert full of angry teens i am in the louvre

>>40129474
>tiktok or instagram reels
How old are you???

>>40128418
Mtfs are crying about it in videos, podcasts, writing a million posts about it. Even on this board, in the repgen, there was an anon whining about how they miss their dick and, more importantly, a person from real life.
You can't have a dick and be dysphoric about it. It just doesn't make sense. A dick is objectively better to have, and males know that damn well. Those who cut it off usually have some kind of untreated mental illness (not gender dysphoria) that made them do it. Later, they end up crying everyday because they're permanently left dickless and become suicidal. Meanwhile some people like like that since they're born.
AMABs can't and don't have bottom dysphoria. They all enjoy having dicks.

>>40130209
live like that*

>>40127872 (OP)
why would you want to stop being a real woman? thats literally god status

>>40128067
Their top surgery is called FFS

>>40130209
hoooly projection anon. i cant stand looking at my dick and especially feeling it (unless im dissociating like crazy). i dont even like going to the bathroom because fluid moving through it feels awful. i want this thing gone asap and there are literally dozens of people on this board right now who would say the same for themselves

>>40128106
nah

This thread is hilarious, I hope you aren't serious

>>40127872 (OP)
Im too scared to even go outside because I don't want to get assaulted or bullied. Sure being trans is hard both ways, but being a MTF is 10000x harder than being ftm

sorry to say.

>>40129534
ok, dont really care, afabs cant be trans btw
>>40129684
lol

>>40131972
"don't really care" you don't like truth don't you?
amabs can't have gender dysphoria btw

>>40132183
only amabs can have gender dypshoria, afabs think transgenderism is a fashion statement

>>40132196
that person is like, 13?

>>40132196
How do you come to conclusions that this person is trans?

>>40132204
doesn't matter, every """trans""" afab, exhibits the same patterned behavior, there is no variation whatsoever

>>40132212
>How do you come to conclusions that this person is trans?
i wouldn't come to that conclusion because its not possible for that person to be trans because they are afab,

>>40132213
You're posting a very specific type of ftm?

>>40132247
same behavior just an older person, if they pooned out at now adays they would adopt the same culture as current afabs do when cosplaying transgenderism, that person is not trans, afabs cannot be trans, they do not experience dysphoria

>>40132213
it does matter. and no.

>>40132256
it does not matter, afabs do not experience dysphoria, it is all caused by social dysfunction, not physical dysphoria, therefore: not truly transgender

>>40132269
Holy projection, that's a whole reason why are amabs trooning out LMFAOOO Term "pinkpill" exist for a reason. You don't seem happy about it.

>>40132254
Now I'm starting to think this might be a bait

>>40132247
This dood is also 6'2 and has a cute wife I hate him so much

>>40130523
You have a mental illness. All males love their dick. You're probably schizophrenic. You need schizophrenia pills. Get them before you cut it off.

>>40132310
6'2?
luckshit

>>40132323
He is an ex pro basketball player and was the only transgender but TALLEST member of the titans game he participated in. And his wife is a legit straight normie cis woman. I hate him.

>>40132285
>>40132296
>>40132313

amabs troon out for epigenetic reasons, because the male sex is slowly and surely going extinct (read the blackpaper) their bodies are not able to function as intended, its extremely distressing to live that way not only socially but physically as a failiure, that is why they transition, because their genetics are slowly but surely failing. AFABs on the other hand poon out 100% as a trend, which will end eventually while the number of mtfs continues to increase. AFABs do not experience ROGD they experience rapid onset SOCIAL dysphoria, which is because of a misaligned perception, NOT because of the physical and psychosomatic malfunction and expiration of their own bodies

>>40132343
Male body is stronger than female body, thus easier to have, survive, etc.

>>40132341
He's living the dream

>>40132343
Blah blah blah, okay retard. I STILL suffer immensely from not being man and never being able to sex a cute straight woman.

>>40132341
why do i bother

>>40132343
sources on any of this besides the crackpipe on your desk

>>40132372
>Male body is stronger than female body, thus easier to have, survive, etc.
if you live in a developed country, there is no reason to be stronger or be able to survive in a harsh environment, this is why men experience later and later puberty in modernity, and why ROGD exists, and why people age slower now than they did 40 years ago. Because modernity and quality of life increase makes the male sex obsolete. Being a biological male offers you NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER in a modern society, you need to read a book. Even in ancient civilizations that reached a certain level of prosperity, typical male physical strength became less desirable and boylove became a thing. Biological men are merely tools for cis women, they exist merely to fight amongst themselves and to die. If you live in a 1st world country (which is a good thing btw) there is no discernible benefit in being male, and biological males suffer and transition as a result, afabs transition as a trend and as learned perversion, like this:
>>40132394
>>40132419
read a history book

>>40132343
Genetic failure can't cause dysphoria lol

>>40132421
>learned perversion
I've been a lesbian that wanted to be a man since before I had access to the Internet or had any idea that pooners existed. You are a weird man.

>>40132447
EPIGENETIC failure does trigger dysphoria, thats what ROGD is, and only AMABs can experience it
>>40132453
lesbians dont take testosterone or pretend to be men, your brain is poisoned, have you tried testosterone? If you can take testosterone and remain 100% same gender attracted I would be extremely surprised

>>40132421
>Being a biological male offers you NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER in a modern society
>Biological men are merely tools for cis women
>there is no discernible benefit in being male, and biological males suffer and transition as a result
Fucking lol, pure pinkpiller talk
I was right, thanks for proving my point retard

>>40132487
>Fucking lol, pure pinkpiller talk
you need to go back to instagram and tiktok, this is pretty much the spawning point for pinkpilling, lurk moar

>>40132497
>you need to go back to instagram and tiktok
Are you 12?
Pinkpillers don't have gender dysphoria btw

>>40132480
>lesbians dont take testosterone or pretend to be men, your brain is poisoned, have you tried testosterone? If you can take testosterone and remain 100% same gender attracted I would be extremely surprised
LMAO!
I'm a butch on T coper anon, still exclusively a dyke closing in on 7 months on high dose T lol

>>40132526
pinkpillers do have gender dysphoria because they transition out of discomfort with the failing of their agab and improve their situation through medical means, directly treating their dysphoria, both resulting from social and physical failiure,
>>40132534
>I'm a butch on T
ewwwwww gross, just icky, please go back to bluesky

>>40132343
>>40132421
>>40132343
>>40132421
>read the blackpaper
The so called "black paper" you're referencing is not a recognized scientific document.
>because their genetics are slowly but surely failing
There scientific support for the idea that one sex is going extinct.
>amabs troon out for epigenetic reasons
There’s no scientific evidence that “epigenetic failure” causes gender dysphoria, nor that ROGD is an epigenetic condition. much less one that only affects AMAB.

>>40132633
>The so called "black paper" you're referencing is not a recognized scientific document.
>There scientific support for the idea that one sex is going extinct.
>There’s no scientific evidence that “epigenetic failure” causes gender dysphoria, nor that ROGD is an epigenetic condition. much less one that only affects AMAB.

>>40132657
Yes? That's true. You're making up things and not telling us anything.

>>40132567
I never had xitter or bluesky, you are a strange retarded man and probably scary looking. I will keep roiding and having the lesbian sex no amab can ever have, probably will also get phallo eventually and keep on having sapphic rotdog sex with gold star lesbians.

>>40132670
>probably will also get phallo eventually and keep on having sapphic rotdog sex with gold star lesbians.
Don't get phallo please, I support everything else

>>40132668
nope its not made up, read a book little dood
>>>/tiktok/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/cgl/
>>>/bluesky/
>>>/twitter/
>>>/tumblr/
>>40132670
>you are a strange retarded man and probably scary looking
im a qt who is terrified of mean roided up dyke freaks like u, also i like cis men only btw if u were wondering :3
>probably will also get phallo eventually
My condolences

>>40132709
It's made up because there is no scientific evidence to support it. Therefore yes, you made it up.

>>40132773
no its real i figured it out all myself because im a very smart failmale, if you care about scientific studies so much why dont you go look at the ones that indicate gross pooners depoon at double the rate of mtfs detransition ( i wonder why that is )

>>40132812
I'm saying that there is no scientific evidence that “epigenetic failure” causes gender dysphoria.

>>40132686
I have to put my rotting frankencock inside a cute gold star lesbian, only this will fix me.
>>40132709
>im a qt who is terrified of mean roided up dyke freaks like u, also i like cis men only btw if u were wondering :3
All good, I only like petite cis women, those god thier pussy eating skills would go to waste on an amaboid anyway.
>My condolences
If I weren't a lesbian I could fuck your tranny hole and impregnate you with the worm colonies in my rotdog, finally making you a real woman and a mother.

As someone who lives in the third world, threads like this are making me feel like white amabs can't experience gender dysphoria. I mean, white men are the most privileged group in our society. It seems like some of them pretend to be trans just to further exaggerate their victimhood and justify being annoying.

>>40132836
its definitely correlated, along with birth control in the water supply, microplastics, freedom and liberty, advanced medicine, and education, all correlate with amabs becoming more soft, squishy, adorable and bvilt for transmecalism. Pooners love to play pretend that they are trans too, (cute), but everyone knows they dont really experience dysphoria. 4chan is one of the only places this can be said, which is ok, but overtime with further study on transgenderism it will become more and more apparent and accepted as truth, and then finally medical transition will be something only AMABs will pursue, and the pooner trend will die off.
>>40132861
>a bunch of unecessary sex talk
oooookkkkkk lil dood

>>40132709
>im a qt
>qt
This is a code for I'm old and balding

>>40127872 (OP)
FtMs are cool and based and im glad someone can be the chad i couldnt

>>40132911
i used to be having a little hair thinning at the widows peaks but spiro reversed that real quick, i love my hair, I dont even remotely need hairline advancement, im blessed

>>40132886
>a bunch of unecessary sex talk
Sowwy I just had my T shot yesterday and I'm seing my gf tonight so I'm pent up ><
>dood
I'm a cis woman.

>>40132945
>I'm a cis woman.
you seem based actually, carry on. dont get a rotdog tho. its icky and personally id rather take a strap than that every time, you would regret it i think,

>>40132944
anyone using "qt" is never cute irl

>>40132980
ur mean and u dont know that soooo

>>40132995
unfortunately I know

>>40132998
no u dont and ur mean and its ok and im getting work done anyway,

>>40133009
>need work done

>>40133023
im lateshit its normal

>>40133026
>lateshit
I understand everything now

>>40132968
Can't use a strapon they make me dysphoric, if I have enough bottom growth in the couple of years that follow I'll get metoi instead of phallo though. The only issue is not turning off lesbians/my gf, I don't do dicked biwhores :/

>>40133053
i repressed since 15 lol
>>40133065
you dont have dysphoria you are a cis lesbian, you just have penis envy its different, stop now before you go bald and ruin your life with a terrible surgery :(

>>40133086
>you dont have dysphoria
I wish you where right anon, I don't think you can ever understand what it's like being a naturally masculine gynephilic afab. Dysphoria is a given.
>stop now before you go bald and ruin your life with a terrible surgery :(
I wouldn't mind going bald but it might me less attractive to women/lesbians wich sucks :/ as for surgery its either that or the rope. Never going to identify as anything else than a she/her woman tho.

>>40133168
>a naturally masculine gynephilic afab.
Lucky, I'm most straight, feminine looking lesbian ever.

>>40133168
>I don't think you can ever understand what it's like being a naturally masculine gynephilic afab
true, i concede, u win, im still bitter and hate you and wish you didnt come to this website though
>but it might me less attractive to women/lesbians wich sucks
it will which is why you need to stop
>as for surgery its either that or the rope
no way you will ever even get any feeling out of bottom surgery as an AFAB? it feels like that wouldn't work,

>>40133168
Please don't get rot dog, like, seriously.
Meta is a better option.
But I need to inform you lesbians don't find that attractive. Why can't you just use testosterone on clit?

>>40133195
I bet you are cute nonnie
>>40133232
>true, i concede, u win, im still bitter and hate you and wish you didnt come to this website though
Many such cases..But I'm also bitter, hateful and on this website because I'm miserable if it makes you feel better
>it will which is why you need to stop
T makes me not want to kill myself thoubeit, so I'll take the risk and worst case scenario get a toupee
>no way you will ever even get any feeling out of bottom surgery as an AFAB? it feels like that wouldn't work,
Yeah the options are pretty grim but I'm at a level of self hate with my wombyn genitals that I don't have much of a choice.
>>40133269
I know lesbians don't find that attractive, I'm counting on making my gf okay with the idea gradually. I might still get meta, depends on growth.
>Why can't you just use testosterone on clit?
I'm on a higher dose of T (injections) than most actual pooners lol

>>40133361
Don't let that anon lie to you about phallo. It has its issues yes but I heard the sensation with it is pretty good

>>40127872 (OP)
> FTM transition is heavy metal
which metal bands have something to do with trans guys?

if you say slipknot, korn or any deathcore shit you just prove that ftms are women, bc they have shut music taste

(not to say that slipknot korn and deathcore is bad, i like them, but im a woman)

>>40127872 (OP)
>Sure, MTF transition is cool and all, but FTM transition is heavy metal.

Cool and Heavy Metal... Sounds like someone who hasn't actually transitioned, just some pronoun warrior thinking they are edgy

>>40127932
Are FTM surgeries even at the same level of quality?