>>40140543 (OP)
Toupee fallacy

>>40140543 (OP)
Lack of female socialization
Lack of practice

Cis girls get their entire teenage years to be cringe with the full support of their peers and elders. Trans girls have to figure it all out, alone, in their free time between being forced to larp as men to keep you comfortable.

Trannies learn makeup trying to look younger/“cute”. Cis women learn it as kids trying to look more grown up. Also most trannies are mentally ill porn addicts.

>>40140585
Lots of excuses

>>40140543 (OP)
Laziness

>>40140543 (OP)
cis girls do that since age 9-10 and they don't have enough practise. my sister would wake up 1h before me just to do her makeup for school

>>40140585
this is true
as a cis girl i skipped my makeup practice phase and now at almost 20 idk how to do the most basic of eyeliner

>>40140585
/thread

>>40140621
What excuses? My make up looked trash at first and now is flawless. Women can git gud at their own pace and with help from everyone but trannies are expected to figure it out on 1st try without any help. Go fuck yourself

>>40140573
True. Like you never hear about the Nazis who were decent and good people either

Makeup sucks anyway

>>40140543 (OP)
Idk, my cis lesbian friend said she liked my makeup.

>>40140543 (OP)
Men don't have fine motor skills like women. Same reason why their hand writing is usually trash.

Takes practice like anything else. Unfortunately they don't know when it looks like shit like in this photo.

If any of y'all trans women need help with eyeliner, try bracing your elbow on the sink as you do it so you're not as shakey.

>>40140881
When cis girls compliment your makeup or fashion, theyre lying sis. They think it’s fucking ugly.

>>40140543 (OP)
confirmation bias

>>40140884
>Men don't have fine motor skills like women.
Totally deranged comment.

>>40140781
Yes I do. Nazi German society is so hyper-analyzed there's no corner of it that's been untold, at least based on what all we know of it..

>>40140543 (OP)
Lack of female socialisation
Laziness
They're doing nothing about it, they're just whining
>>40140585
Excuses. You have internet, you can learn at least basic make up skills. You're just lazy.

>>40141119
Cry all you want but it's true and very well documented in physiology. Men are better at gross motor skills which contributes to why they're better at sports. Women have better fine motor skills which is why they've classically been better at sewing, writing, and makeup. Ironically, they tend to make great snipers too.

>>40140585
> Trans girls have to figure it all out, alone
This argument holds up until youtube... Girls these days still do too much makeup but more and more of them have very well-done makeup after plenty of YouTube videos.

Trans girls makeup should be on point with cis girls. Trans Women who transition later in life should still do good because of youtube.

I find it more appalling that ever since the Kardashians came on the scene drag queen levels product being used is the acceptable norm, and yet older transitioning trans woman do their makeup as if a crossdresser and mimi from the drew carey show got blended into one person from the 80's

>>40140543 (OP)
He's not terrible just needs to practice drawing straight lines. It's really just cringe because he's a grown man and doesn't look the least bit feminine. If he was a pretty mid 20s woman going to the club this makeup style would be fine. But he's not so it's cringe

i think a lot of trannies have a sort of look in their head they want to emulate. its usually some sort of goth thing. then they try to learn how to replicate that specific look. whereas the real skill in makeup comes from learning the techniques - how to apply stuff well and what the point of different things are and so on. they get it back to front.
its the same reason so many have bad fashion. they don't build a wardrobe, they don't learn to make outfits, they just try to emulate a specific look without understanding how to pull that look off

>>40141473
The issue with that is no women's outfits will ever look good if you dont look female and looking completely female is somewhere from hard to impossible for amabs

>>40141407
>very well documented in physiology.
Source: crack pipe

>>40141498
this is really silly and a great example of not knowing how to build outfits for yourself. i've met some bricky ass girls who pass flawlessly because they don't dress like an ali express pintrest board goth

>>40141473
To be fair a lot of women are damn awful at this shit too, which is why the modern uniform for womanhood is a blouse from walmart and a vaguely matching pair of yoga pants. Of course this does mean that if you actually TRY you already have a legup on them.

>>40141588
> a lot of women
trannies are women but yeah i get you and i agree. trans women are under more scrutiny tho so it pays to learn this stuff, and as you say its easy to look more put together than the average cis woman. it amazes me when i see trans women who do not take the time to consider this stuff and go out looking like a dogs dinner, must be hard desu

I'm malebrained so I don't use any. eyeliner if I'm going out at night and that's it

>>40140543 (OP)
Cis girls since BIRTH had training in not only female socialization but makeup too.

SORRY IF IM NOT AN INSTANT GOD AT APPLYING MAKEUP. Fuck off.

>>40140897
not true, when we compliment other girls we moreso compliment the affect she takes on her makeup
we understand that most ppl are on different levels and have different taste then us but we still wanna acknowledge the effort that was put in, so even if we don't like it thats why we still compliment

>>40141545
That unfortunately means that they don't pass. Like do you even hear yourself? "Oh they pass if they wear a giant lumpy sweater." That's not passing. That's hiding their unpassing

>>40141291
>>40141410
>You have internet, you can learn at least basic make up skills
That takes time and experimentation.Which I am doing. But in the meantime I am "bad at makeup" and you just have to deal with that.

This is the point, I cannot go to sleep one day a sad and traumatized man and wake up the next morning a beautiful girl with all the benefits of female socialization. It takes TIME.

In order to be good at anything you have to be bad at it for a while.

>>40141896
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about diva

>>40140543 (OP)
idk im pretty decent at it if i say so myself. i probably know more abt different types of makeup than the avg cis woman

im better at makeup than the cis women i hang with. i learnt from gay men and drag queens

>>40140781
hitler was a good person misguided on a dark path and i'm tired of pretending he wasn't

>>40140543 (OP)
dear trannies:
your eyeliner is almost always clocky af. use concealer, highlighter, mascara, blush, eyeshadow & brow makeup to work on your eyes instead.
also avoid dark colours. they emphasize masculine / angular features.
(unless you wanna look like a clocky goth geephon and complain about grannies misgendering you on the train xx)

>>40141896
i usually don't say this, but pleaaase shut your mouth. you have no idea about the kinda tricks 99.9% of trans women pull to pass in public or go stealth.

>>40141136
Everyone literally ignores Germany during the war. If they didn’t they’d have to confront the fact that the Jewish communities weren’t neutral innocents within Germany and engaged in sedition as well as conspiracy prior to being rounded up. And that makes people uncomfortable for some reason

>if you watch a couple of shitty tutorials on youtube you'll totally be as good as a girl who's been doing makeup since 7 years old, hon

>>40143751
It's not that hard to follow tutorials
>>40142260
Eyeliner is fine just be good at it
>>40141906
It takes next to nothing to learn though, it's not difficult at all if you spend like a couple hours practicing
>>40141757
Try harder
>>40140810
And this is why youre ugly

>>40140543 (OP)
too over the top and yeah its like a an apg bimbo thing youre more likely to see. instead of the natural makeup

>>40145337
>You don't use paint to make yourself artificially prettier therefore you must be ugly

Why are people who don't have years of experience with an artistic skill shit at it?
Jeez I wonder

>>40145352
I dont do a bimbo look?? It's literally normal to wear makeup

>>40145511
Youre trans, and on this board, unless ur stealth levels of passing, you need makeup

>>40140543 (OP)
cis girls compliment me on my makeup all the time

>>40145511
not the person above, but ur probably ugly

>>40145556
holy shit lose weight. the angle doesn't hide how fat your disgusting body is

>>40145545
>▶
>>40140543 (OP)
>>40145556
compare and contrast

>>40145556
Youre makeup isnt bad but god damn ur an obese lard ass, im not promoting anorexia but at the same time your chin has a chin

>>40140573
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>>40145556
This isn't fatasallfuckgen. Get outta gere

>>40145565
>>40145584
>>40145911
lol never change 4chan
at least she actually has boobs
t. skinny fuck

>>40145972
those aren't boobs nona. take the bra off and you'll see it's all disgusting ass shit goop

>>40145972
Gross fat girl boobs don't make up for the metric ton of grossness attached to every inch of that balooga

>>40145972
I wear a 32C bra i have boobs and that was even at my bmi of like 20.5 before i gained some weight. Just have better genetics

>>40146024
nope

>>40146031
Yeah bc thats TOTALLY not a normal boob size for trans women

Trans people are actually born with an inherent trait that makes their hands unstable, and harder to apply makeup with. Its one of the primary ways to diagnose someone with gender dysphoria.

>>40142257

>>40146045
I want to know more about this?

>>40140543 (OP)
my makeup is bad. i know its bad, but i cant will myself to fix it. this stuff is so fucking expensive when youre unemployed and i got laid off for trooning out 8 months ago. eyes are the worst, i feel like most of the face makes sense except eyes where things dont seem to want to work the way they should. i almost always get powder in places i dont want it, and very little sticks to where i apply it. im also bad at applying it. its probably easy to fix, but this hole ive fallen into keeps me from wanting to do anything but the essential. i think this is a fairly common experience.

also, i dont really dress for exaggerated makeup. to constrain the extent of my honmoding i dress pretty normie, which means theres not much room for things like wings and such. in my confidence that i could reap the benefits of male presentation for longer i have fallen into a trap of my own making with no real way out in sight.

>>40141119
no its rather accurate, but not unfixable. effort is the obvious difference between people who are good at makeup and those who arent.

>>40140543 (OP)
because that shit is difficult

>>40145565
>>40145584
>>40145911
why are you guys so mean :((
i'm really trying to lose weight. this photo was from two months ago. i've actually lost 35 pounds since then. i'm now down 70 lbs since i started dieting six months ago. i just didn't have any more recent up-close selfies on hand

>>40146565
good job keep it up girlie! don't let them get to you they're retarded 4chanites
t. also losing weight rn

>>40146565
Great job! I know it is hard but you look a lot better at 273 already

>>40146389
>no its rather accurate
Source: crack pipe

>>40147155
albuterol, actually

>>>508437614

This>>40140585
And overestimate yourself by just looking at a mirror. Your mirror image is not ypur real image so make up amateur usually end up look like a monster. Use a camera to record your self(back camera on your phone). I look like a cutie in the mirror but a mongolian warrior in a camera.

>>40146565
Congrats on hitting 300 lbs

>>40147811
I'm 263 lbs. I was around 300 lbs in that photo.

>>40140543 (OP)
The best advice I can give is to get a female friend or relative to teach you. I get compliments on my makeup, and it's all because my female best friend taught me everything I know.

>>40145556
you're just so adorable

>>40141906
>benefits of female socialization
lol.

>>40145556
you're really cute! people on this board are assholes. don't listen to the people saying mean things. they're just bitter

>>40140543 (OP)
they try once and don't instantly look like an instagram baddie so they either give up forever or just assume that's the best they can do and never try to improve

>>40140585
SPBP

>>40141410
Youtube doesn't just make you good at things.
You can't look up how do rockets work and effortlessly become a rocket scientist. It takes time and practice and as an adult it's hard to keep with it unless you're a complete neet.


>>40141473
This also honestly. With fashion and makeup you have to find what looks good on you vs random mood boards.

>>40141906
>It takes TIME.
for you to finally understand the futility of your situation and an hero'ing? Not much time now I'd imagine

>>40142313
>99.9%
lol
I coulda bought 50% but its def not 99.9
you spend enough time in the FGC you see all sorts of hons and the "tricks" they use to try(and fail) to pass

>>40140653
>now at almost 20
I imagined you much older because you're one of the few people here who seems to be sane and relatively well adjusted. Maybe you should leave so you stay that way

>>40142313
I do know and I know that most all dont pass because they are lazy trannies that dont voice train