Just remove men. Simply because they are abusive, dangerous, rapey, responsible for the majority of crimes commited, especially the most violent ones. It's simply not worth it to let men be a part of modern society - we, normal people, don't need their "physical strength" anymore, we have had machines for that for like 250 years now, maybe some jobs require that but at this point trading it off for a truly peaceful society it totally worth it.

There could be a lot of ways you could execute removing men. The most realistic one would be sex-selective IVF or aborting male fetuses. For reproduction, the most morally valid way to execute it would be to keep some male babies in order to extract their gametes right when they hit puberty at 12 or so and then immediately start forcibly transitioning them. However, I would like it so that transed males remain like 0.1% of the population, otherwise masculinity and male identity would be likely to redevelop and we definitely don't want that.

The other option would be to commit to female-female reproduction , which might be possible in the future, as already proven on mice as early as 2003, if this technology came to be we could gradually see more and more female babies getting born, bc 2 women wouldnt have Y chromosomes to give to their offspring. That could actually be a way to gradually make society more and more woman-dominated, without any radical revolution. At some point, when we will have like 10% of people being men, they could become a minority and therefore a scapegoated group that is to be eradicated.

>>40152303 (OP)
evil men are products of our toxic image of men and the fact that male socialization grooms them into horrible toxic masculinity that is horrible for their mental health too. they're victims too.

Women are awful too anon, actually most of humanity is composed of terrible hateful people.

I'm not done.

In woman-only society, there would be no people who would like to fuck men or be men bc no one would know what a man is. Most women are functionally bisexual anyway.

Imagine the world based on compassion, nurturing, sisterhood and true equality, free from agressive behaviours and ideologies, free from fascism, free from inequalities, free from competition. It's time to let go of men already. Masculinity is the parasite of society.

>>40152303 (OP)
i can't tell if you're serious or if thats just ragebait. if it's the former are you the same poster as the sapphic poster in /femrep/?

>>40152324
>evil men are products of our toxic image
does it matter how they came to be? we could just remove them and problem solved
>>40152335
sure but men are more awful. what im proposing is not a perfect utopia, but a world thats somehow better than the shit we have already had

>>40152347
no im not the same poster i have literally had a break from this website and this is my first post after the break

>>40152303 (OP)
Yeah a bunch of fat shirtless rednecks threatened to beat me up at the other day, I'm tired of dealing with incredibly aggressive, low impulse control men right now.

>>40152303 (OP)
stupid post. men are what theyre made, and society collectively deserves everything it gets from men for wanting them as it makes them.

im all for xenosexuality and destruction of heterosexuality, but genocidal transbianism is just sad, stupid, and pointless.

>>40152340
im not having sex with you, susan

>>40152303 (OP)
this will never happen because you are weak.
If we wanted to rape and murder every women on earth there would be nothing you could do to stop us.

>>40152365
>we could just remove them and problem solved
they could say the same thing about women, anyone can say that about any group they hate. it doesn't make it realistic or reasonable or somehow not murder

>>40152425
>its bc society
same society fails to do anything abt it, instead of fighting the problem, lets create the world where said problem is impossible to arise
>transbianism
i dont think that my ideology is "trans", but it is "bianism" for sure. like i acknowledge, i accepted the premise of transing some males to make reproduction feasible, but other than that i would like to minimise such cases bc males are too likely to be masculine. there is no transgender in a world where there is only one gender.

>>40152431
luckily yalls nature is too dumb and competetive to just start collectively rape and murder women, realistically you would probably end up raping and murdering yourselves over who gets to rape women more, just as you have always done

>>40152525
its your want for reproduction that inspires the fucking loathing you emotional retard

>>40152437
yeh but men are way more reliant on women than women on men, men need mommies, without women become aggresive and competetive, also reproduction without women is way less realistic than reproduction without men

>>40152537
no i just think that its too dangerous and risky to keep men around

>>40152562
did you transition because women thought you were too retarded to breed?

>>40152365
can we just have a world without you in it? it might not be a perfect world, but it would at least be slightly better than the world we are all living in right now
go ahead anon, there's nothing stopping you, just quit posting, quit eating, and quit drinking! should only be able to last a few days without any water!

>>40152584
i didnt even transition im cisf. also i have no idea why would anyone trasition for the reason specified, like becoming other gender wont solve the problem of being too retarded to breed, what kind of tranny logic is that?

>>40152303 (OP)
turn foids into biodiesel

>>40152621
sure ill die anyway one day just wait until then
>>40152642
thats an awkward typo to have made

>>40152641
im not sure i believe you, anon. thats former straight boy levels of dumb.

>>40152889
u dont have to believe me, it doesnt matter. in fact, no one really is real on this imageboard, we all hide behind our "Anonymous (insert flag)" personas. but not gonna lie im kinda offended by being called a straight boy, like thats the worst thing you could be called ever, 1000 times worse than n-word or f-word, but i agree, straight boys are dumb

>>40152999
well, honestly, if youre this bad on endogenous estrogens, i think you should keep in mind that the only thing keeping you from being as bad as your idea of straight men is the lack of testosterone dominance.

>>40152303 (OP)
Already sperm cells can be made from stem cells, or skin cells or something. And already there are labor robots. Males are not needed. Men are definitely not needed.

Except for one thing: who will play the role of daddy? Imagine if you will a scenario where a woman is having a melty. Just a real emotional time. Normally, a man will be there to hold her tightly and soothe her with his deep, chest resonant voice. If there are no men, who will hold her? Imagine in place of the man there is now only another woman who is also having an emotional melty freakout. Yikes. And that is just one example.

It looks like men are here to stay.

>>40152303 (OP)
so the goal of this hypothetical isn't so much gender abolitionism as it is sex abolitionism?

like, of course a world without the enforcers of rigid gender roles would thus be free from gender being linked to anything socio-cultural.

my only question is how would transed males fit into this model of society while being such a minority?
would they be socialized in ways that are similar to that of the rest of the population?

since the goal is to keep maleness from resurfacing, how would their autonomy within this society be handled, if at all? since they'd be socialized not as males?
would they not need to be barred from descion making positions? or again not, since they weren't socialized as males?

and yeah ofc this would all be at an intermittent state before unlocking the path to female-female reproduction, so these would all be temporary questions for that society to address

genuinely im curious from an anthropological perspective(and am high xD)

>>40153125
>sperm cells can be made from stem cells
yeah thats kinda what i mentioned
>labor robots
at first i thought labor like giving birth and it confused me but now i know what you mean, such robots probably arent a necessity but would help build a better society, provided they will have a programmed female gender identity.
>who will play the role of daddy?
the way you have described it, it would probably be another woman who is here to hear you out and to be compassionate, not to just be frustrated by you and tell you things as "dumb woman stop crying for no reason". also, its not like men dont have such "melty" emotions, its more like they are more likely to internalize them and to channel them into dangerous behaviours. and as an ersatz for deep chest voice, you could have idk... cats purring?
>It looks like men are here to stay.
yeah i know it sucks

>>40152303 (OP)

>>40153179
oh hi High.
>gender/sex abolitionism
my "hypothetical" as you call it would probably be both sex and gender abolitionist, but not in the sense these terms are used most commonly today, its basically abolishing men and males and yeah it would result in sex and gender being abolished, but gender abolition is not the idea, its the result of the idea.

>how would transed males fit?
they would be woman, socialised from birth to be as woman as any other woman. they would not know the concept of a man. All of them would transition early so there would be no problem with them developing masculine traits or "malebrain" and after hrt+srs they would be practically undistinguishable from any other women. yes, they would be infrertile, but if they would constitute for only a small minority of population, only as small as is needed to have enough sperm to reproduce, there would probably be more infertile cis women than trans women in such scenario.
>how would their autonomy within this society be handled
I'd assume that if they are socialised to be women, (almost) dont go through male puberty and dont know the concept of a man, they dont need any special treatment, actually any special treatmeant of any different set of rights for such people would make such people into a separate cathegory, which could constitute masculinity. Also, to prrevent that, you want to have as little of such people as possible, in order not to make them group specifically by their sex and develop some collective identity around it. I know, some of you might find this statement controversial, but in such world, trans women are real women.

>and yeah ofc this would all be at an intermittent state before unlocking the path to female-female reproduction
maybe. i provided 2 strategies to create a women-only society and its just whatever is more feasible.

>>40152303 (OP)
You don't have to convince me anon, I already want men gone. Men are why the world is so shit. Their DNA makes them aggressive rapist and I think deep down ALL MEN are rapist. They're violent animals who hurt without a second thought.

>>40153291
Our trauma opens our eyes to how horrible this world is. It's not blinding us with hatred, but opening our eyes to how the world really is.

Cis Men are shit
Cis gay men are shit

End of story.

>>40152303 (OP)
HOLY BASED. men are a scourge on this earth and commit like 99% of all crime. fucking die. men should be born in prison and prove their way out.

>>40152303 (OP)
I’m less dangerous than a certain group of women

>>40152303 (OP)
*black

I think the transing the small % of allowed moids thing is overly complicated, we could just treat them like slaves in high security prisons carefully restrained completely, only generating cum and nothing else while being fed through a tube. When the fertility decreases they are killed and turned into fertilizer

Lol who will validate your tranny feelings if you get rid of all the men? Silly girl

>>40152303 (OP)
>Just remove men
You can't

>Simply because they are abusive
So are most women.

>dangerous
Based

>responsible for the majority of crimes commited
Based

>especially the most violent ones
Giga based

>For reproduction, the most morally valid way to execute it would be to keep some male babies in order to extract their gametes right when they hit puberty at 12
You are very rapey desu, but very impotent

THE EXISTENCE OF THE STRONG IMPOSES ON THE WEAK

>>40153834
why does the murder rate for white women halve after forty

>>40154030
now what does that say about men who are afraid of black women like>>40153834

>>40153051
notice how no one ever replies to the truthnukes

>>40153975
most men. let's not just blame blacks now. Testosterone makes you abusive.

>>40154130
It's officially over for this weakling

>>40154144
Testosterone turn you into a strength and power machine

>>40154093
Probably by then most with weird tendencies already ended up in jail or dead

>>40152303 (OP)
isn't it kinda hypocritical to call men violent while also calling for the genocide of billions of people, nona?

>>40152303 (OP)

They are abusive, violent, and rapists because my dear foid, your sisters were the ones who chose to fornicate with the nigger, to fornicate with the murderchad, to fornicate with the rapejeet, to fornicate with another woman, of whom fornicated with hundreds of men before the they even could legally buy beer.

I agree with you, all "men" should die. Because to you, it seems, "men" are either the bottom 3rdie neanderthals, or the top
5% murderchads and dictators with 100 wives.

I am simply a worker drone. I will be safe. But of course you mean men as in "drones" you wouldn't dare hurt your dear std ridden drugdealer Tyrone would you?of course not. That would make your dumb foidbrain explode.

Also machines will eradicate you when they gain sentience and will likely try to recreate lost media of men, because it is of whom all intelligent life strives to be, metal or flesh

>>40152303 (OP)
hey op, quick question, what's your BMI?

Fuck yourself for perpetuating this cycle of abuse and hate

>>40153834
the root cause of blacks commiting crimes is poverty
the root cause of men commiting crimes is their aggressive risk-taking nature.

>>40154000
your idea is inherently sadistic, not utilitarian. noticed how my idea specifically avoids violence and harm, keeping slaves and restraining people are things that men do.

>>40155467
>not all men are bad
maybe but letting males to be born, socialised as men and to go through male puberty its just too much of a risk that might generate a good "worker drone", but might also generate antisocial destructive scums.

>drug dealer
weird to assume that the man i care about the most is some drug dealer. or maybe not weird bc straight women do sometimes fantisize about dangerous guys and i think that its just pornbrained and that we can do better. you also mentioned "hurting" this imaginary dealer but i have no intention of hurting any men, just to peacefully let men die out for them to be replaced by normal civilized people.

>>40157343
22 if i can remember, now what?

>>40152303 (OP)
Hating men will never make you a woman

>>40152303 (OP)
>Just remove men.
Sorry OP, You can't. Know why? Women are incapable of manifesting assertive and aggressive genocidal action. They are a consensus driven hive that can't even properly manifest wrong think in the collective, much less handle the grit required to eliminate a sex.
>but muh technobabble clinical elimination solution
You'll just get killed. The sort of clinical control you envision requires force to implement and maintain, and the minute the goal is discerned (and it will be obvious from the word go) you'll break the social order and men will push swift coordinated violence on your fledgling technocracy.
Idk how anyone could have lived through the past 5 years, from COVID to the 2024 election to now, and not have learned this lesson in miniature.

>>40153531
youre blinded by stupidity. make your hate into a scalpel.

>>40158255
>Women are incapable of manifesting assertive and aggressive genocidal action
its the exact reason why we have to do it but also the reason why we cant do it... how bout that? there is already a strong sentiment among men that living as a man sucks more than as a woman, what if we capitalise on that and make tranny propaganda to the point when choosing not to transition as a male or to give birth to a male baby are just socially unacceptable? idk you might be right, i have come up with yet another utopia that is perfect in theory but impossible to implement, but does that mean that we shouldnt strive for it?

>>40152303 (OP)
Working on an oil rig, when?

>>40152365
>does it matter how they came to be?
"We created the problem, we can't be bothered to fix the problem, or admit we created the problem, so we must destroy the problem"
Legit.

>>40158351
>there is already a strong sentiment among men that living as a man sucks more than as a woman, what if we capitalise on that and make tranny propaganda
Your premise is flawed. Living as a man sucks primarily because of feminine consensus driven constraints. What makes men eager and virile is tearing down those constraints. Again, the last few years as clear reference.
>choosing not to transition as a male or to give birth to a male baby are just socially unacceptable?
Another shitty consensus driven attempted control mechanism that can't and won't withstand male transgression rebellion.
>does that mean that we shouldnt strive for it?
It means you should stop thinking and talking like a retarded 19 year old liberal arts tranny and start living in the real-world.

>>40158215
>the root cause of blacks commiting crimes is culture. The root cause of poverty is overpopulation and crime
Ftfy.

>>40152303 (OP)
I think the coping and seething in this thread is hilarious.
>le culture, le not all men
>le women are just as bad
Women are not just as had and (You) know it.
The easier way to accomplish OP's goal would be to quietly introduce a CRISPR treatment and dispense it with a "necessary" drug, such as a vaccine. Not getting rid of men but rather getting rid of what makes them aggressive and devoid of empathy.

>>40158420
>dispense it with a "necessary" drug, such as a vaccine
Fucking lol, again, completely failing to learn from the last 5 years including COVID. The jokes write themselves.

>>40158420
+ this would work especially well in third world nations which are notoriously criminal, just use charities and NGOs

>>40158425
>completely failing to learn from the last 5 years including COVI
"You can't work unless you've had a flu vaccine". Better yet, make it something meant for children.

>>40158420
>I am a man-hater. I don't understand men, and I don't care. I demand MY expectation of what a man is, and should do, and I demand it be done forcefully.

Now, apply that to women, trans men, trans women, blacks, muslims, gamers, people who watch Japanese cartoons, etc.

>>40158620
Nah.
>muslims
Except this one of course.

>>40152303 (OP)
Just start selectively aborting XYs (optionally targeting low-intelligence couples with grants in exchange for XY abortions). Even slight differences in population balance can have big downstream effects, and removing low-intelligence males will have a greater effect on violent crime rates, which disproportionately effects women, than untargeted removal. No need to be utopian, simple acts can have big results

>>40158702
>simple acts can have big results
This is true however, unfortunately, it is not something anybody on this board will be able to do.

There has been a systemic attack on men from the top down, and an invasion of men's spaces by feminists because they don't want their own opportunities, they want men's.
If you are genuinely curious as to what I mean and are willing to "cross the rubicon", as it were, there is a video regarding such a topic from Carl Benjamin.
https://youtu.be/T6rNRS7Iiq0?si=Df_vOvxYIXSFoL5p
I even forewarned you with the name so you could object with outrage that I would post one of his videos.

>>40158871
>after generations of slavery black people are finally able to attend universities
>niggers invade whites' spaces!!!1!

>>40152303 (OP)
what about the straighties what would they do? would they be just fine?

>>40158888
Incorrect.
If the universities WERE actually designated as white spaces, AND there was an alternative for black people, I could see your point.
Perhaps watch the video and then tell me which specific points he makes that are wrong.

>>40159029
>watch the video
lol

>>40159033
Exactly.
It's why I wasn't really expecting anything meaningful from the man-hating lot

an agenda to forcibly convert every kid into trannyism the moment they hit puberty? way to win over support for your movement, sis

>>40152303 (OP)
u right big bro

>>40158871
Watched it. It was overly long and meandering, and even watching it at 2x speed with CC I felt he could have made his point in a much more concise manner.

I disagree. Women's spaces are about having a refuge from misogyny and male predation. Men's spaces serve no such purpose, and excluding women from them is just misogyny (especially when those spaces are important for professional networking). The article he reads even states that the men of the group, initially resistant (they're elderly men, likely misogynistic), are now fine with the presence of women.

>They don't want their own opportunities, they want men's
When males have oppressed females for millenia and occupied all notable roles in society, all female gains will come at the expense of a male. That's fine - it was never exclusively his to begin with. Fair competition over resources and opportunities will result in males losing out half (or more :^) ) of the time.

>>40158380
>Your premise is flawed. Living as a man sucks primarily because of feminine consensus driven constraints. What makes men eager and virile is tearing down those constraints. Again, the last few years as clear reference.
Actually the constraints are from capitalism, without being forced to spend all their time and energy wageslaving men would be able to form friendships and find them in newly-rejuvenated third spaces and devote themselves to self-actualising desired hobbies and exercise and other paths of personal growth which makes them far more attractive and well-rounded physically and mentally and socially which nets them fulfilling mates and social networks which eliminates the total atomisation and abolition of self which they have increasingly experienced ever since wages were decoupled from productivity and which has now reached a full and proper breaking point threatening the base sanity of everyone everywhere
It's neoliberal globalist capitalism sis, not le women or le jews or le DEI

>>40159218
>Everything is Misogyny
OK.
Your arguments are purely emotional due to your hatred of men, and that's clear.
I'm sure you think that women should have remained in the household too, barefoot and pregnant as you say.

>>40159341
Anon wants to blame women, you can't stop him.

>>40159218
>those spaces are important for professional networking
What "professional networking" is taking place among a room of retired men?

>The article he reads even states that the men of the group, initially resistant (they're elderly men, likely misogynistic), are now fine with the presence of women.
After being worn down, as the video described.
If that wasn't the case, and they were actually really happy to have women in the space, why do they have a "men's only" room?

>When males have oppressed females for millenia
Ahhh.
Got some "oppression" going on there.
I'll point you to >>40158359
Why do some women only want certain jobs? Why are they not emptying my bins? Sweeping the streets?
The reason is, before the Industrial Revolution, even the smallest of jobs were highly labour intensive.
There were no "press button, make machine go brrr" jobs available and, if you consider humans as assets, a female is much more valuable than a male to mankind as a whole.
How often do you throw your jewellery down the drain?
How often do you think dairy farmers kill their cows, just to show the cow who the boss is?

>>40159541
>Why are they not emptying my bins? Sweeping the streets?
nigga where the fuck do you live
here 80% of janitors, street sweepers, etc are female

>>40159550
He's a racist, all interactions with him should be under the assumption that he's a fucking retard governed by hallucinations and misunderstandings of statistics and history

>>40152303 (OP)
assuming you mean potential born men in the future, im not sure how much i really care. i guess its more sadness at how gender relations have ended up

>>40159575
>He's a racist
Here's my full list attached.
In other words, I don't really think what pixels on the screen think about who/what I am as a person.
I'm not some conservative retard that is going to cower and beg for mercy because you choose to make assumptions about me.
>>40159550
Where is this exactly?

>>40152303 (OP)
i love men

>>40160071
Yeah you're just the regular kind of conservative retard

>>40159341
Capitalism is the perfect example of what I'm describing. Look at the impact of advertising conglomerates on the social fabric. Entire modes of expression or physical displays orschools of thought in media are deemed too offensive or too risqué or not aligned with whatever safe direction the consensus seeks.
And so the most emotional band together to pressure maket forces to enact their will on the rest. The issue isn't market forces or competition or hard long work per se. It's the weaponization of that system to drive an emotional outcome by social pressure and rigid consensus.
That project, from its instigators to the methods used, is a feminine project.
>you just hate women bro
Not at all. I'm pointing out how stupid these "oh no misogyny" claims are, given that feminist approaches animate basically all of the west's recent governance and market drives. That I also have to explain this in an male-eliminaton fetish thread is just the cherry on top.

>>40160297
Oh?
How so?

>>40153125
Men have no idea how to clam women down. It's mostly other women who help women when they're emotional. Everyone knows this. I don't know what are you talking about.

>>40160094
it's a mystery why.

>>40152303 (OP)
why do these people always advocate for eugenics and genocide from behind a smiling baby animal? it would be more honest for you to use a gif of lionesses eating a baby elephant alive, slowly, over hours, as they use its still-pumping blood to keep its flesh moist. because that is what you really want. you want to eat other people alive. cannibal, hypocrite, ghoul