why does this topic trigger pooners so much?

>>40159636 (OP)
Cis lesbian reporting in: HER is full of bearded pooners but I'm not sure what demographic they are aiming for. Mtfs? Anyway, it's a thing.

>>40159636 (OP)
They are all androphilic roastie fujopooners and will never get the plight of actually dysphoric bulldykes. Its heckin invalidating for them lol

>>40159646
Probably aiming for fake lesbians

they can't handle the power of heterosexual tribbing

>>40159683
Plenty of real lesbians date butches on T, sapphic love is more than appearance it's also a shared lived experience, dynamics, female masculinity being different from that of a man ect..

>>40159707
>repper has a retarded opinion
just another tuesday

>>40159646
wait.
you're telling me there's tons of bearded trans *men* on HER?
more than stubbly or bearded trans *women*?

>>40159727
I'm repping on T and get mostly gendered male by strangers but my gf (gold star lesbian, no attraction to men) is still very much into me. Not something you can understand unless you are a lesbian.

Poooooooner poooony poonpoon poo

>>40159752
dood. just fucking poon. isn't she trying to convince you to go off t? lmao

>>40159752
you're dating a bisexual and that's ok

I don't get it. Wouldn't lesbian transmen have to be women and not transmen?

>>40159636 (OP)
I think it's based

>>40159888
>just fucking poon
I'm not a man and don't see myself as one.
>isn't she trying to convince you to go off t?
Yes but we are working through it.
>>40159893
She is a gold star lesbian, never did anything with men and is repulsed by them.

>>40159959
shes not gold star if she dates a dood lmao

>>40159702
Me and my boyfriend (gay t4t) tried tribbing once but it was just awkward and unsexy

>>40159980
I identify as a woman and she sees me as a woman, she would never be with a male, by definition a gold star lesbian.

>>40159959
Homeboy, I have seen your story play of 6,000 times among people I know, your story does not have a happy ending. Either you break it off at some point or you are perma-miserable/desist.

>>40160027
Where those people gaydens with their straight male boyfriends? Maybe we will have to break up but I have every reason to try to make it work as hard as I can. As I said lesbians have a different bond than heterosexual or even gay men so there is flexibility in presentation.

>>40159661
hi flandre :D

>>40159636 (OP)
can anyone actually explain to me lesbian trans men? im genuinely curious like ideologically how that works.

>>40160058
Yeah it's a mix, some FtM's dating guys and some FtM's dating women. Honestly I don't want to give unsolicited relationship advice to some rando on the Internet where I don't know like your full situation. Honestly, I've just never seen it work out :(

>>40160085
Well see first you must accept the female mind..

>>40159959
why do you use the femrepper flag if you're not repping?

>>40160080
Flandre is a cute!!
>>40160085
Im not a a lesbian trans man but close-ish (lesbian on T) and it's about not viewing your sexuality as male sexuality, wanting to stay in the lesbian community and not having to compete with penis having men for cocksexual straight/bi women. Having a gold star gf that doesn't have a gross dicked pussy and won't cuck you is also part if the appeal.
>>40160096
I'm not ftm but I understand what you mean, it's definitely putting a strain on our relationship. But we communicate well and she is leaning towards needing some time to accept/grieve but still wanting to make it work.
>>40160125
I'm hrt repping and identify as a normal she/her woman.

>>40160201
>hrt repping
"repping" what? if you're a normal woman who takes t and that's how you identify you're not repressing anything

>>40160107
>>40160201
>Having a gold star gf that doesn't have a gross dicked pussy and won't cuck you is also part if the appeal.
this makes a lot of sense to me. kinda why I don't mind dating 'gay' men as an 'mtf' because I know they won't leave me for a cis girl. thanks.

they're trenders. they wanns have their cake and eat it, too; but there is no cake. the cake is a lie.

>>40160219
>"repping" what? if you're a normal woman who takes t and that's how you identify you're not repressing anything
I'm repressing the delusion that actually pooning would make me a man.I know I'm not "trutrans" and a change of public identity will not help me. I chose to be a virilised woman.
>>40160220
Np nonnie, its not that hard to understand but people are being daft.

>>40160302
>I'm repressing the delusion that actually pooning would make me a man
this is called being a "femrepper." it means you won't poon bc you hate yourself. and your gold-star dyke gf is contributing to your self-hatred. like everyone else here has told you, this can only end in breaking up, or desisting. i understand you don't want either outcome, but in this life you eventually have to "pick one." if you were in therapy, your therapist would tell you this

>>40160201
but were you on T before you started dating tho

>>40160338
I do understand that but as I said my gf is a very understanding person, if she breaks up with me I will accept it but until then we are going to try. I'm also not a man, I want to be one for internalised homophobia and possibly aap reasons but I'm not what some here would call trutrans.
>>40160450
No. We dated 7 months before I went on T, but she new about my gd (I'm stone) and was very good at accommodating it. She was originally fine with me going on T.

>>40160058
>there is flexibility in presentation
Bro you are LITERALLY biohacking your endocrine system your past presentation. Not encouraging you to dump her but if she's trying to get you to go off T you unironically might be happier with a bisexual woman who won't gaf about the male secondary sex characteristics it's giving you or the other body changes.

you can't be a lesbian as a trans man. the two do not conflate. if you identify as a lesbian, you don't have gender dysphoria because you're congruent in sex. if you identify as a man, you can't be a lesbian because lesbians are womem that love other women.

trans men are finding out how hard dating is for men and trying to walk back giving up their female privelege

>>40160672
stop mansplaning

>>40161577
based

>>40159741
NTA but yes, from my experience HER has more ftms than mtfs, despite what the right-wingers will tell you

>>40159636 (OP)
Ftms don't belong in female spaces and have no claim to being a lesbian

>>40159636 (OP)
Okay lets see if we can explain…
There are 6 subtypes of pooners and more are theorized. They are as follows:
Straight pooners that want straight woman vagina and will be cucked forever.
St4t pilled poons that get gocked by puppygirls weekly
Cocksexual gaydens that are either cute enough to get bi/straight bfs or suffer a fate most unfortunate
Poon4poon gaydens that basically take huge Ls daily because they are not concentrated as transbians to form a critical mass.
Butchmoders and dykemoders that are MALE BRAINED MEN hiding their power level to get with lesbians or other ‘moders

But finally the most galaxy brained strat of all.

Fully bearded poons that call themselves lesbians, to attract the straight women calling themselves lesbians. Its genius.

>>40159636 (OP)
Real transexual men dont make being a woman a core pillar of their personality. A lot of these are like the stereotype of 'demi/pan sexual afabfemboy he/they'. FTM spaces are probably like MTF spaces where we dont want sissy crossdressers in our spaces who retain their male identities. The reason they go on lesbian apps is two fold.

1. no dick means they have nothing to offer straight women (same way mtfs date gay men in the form of chasers) so they turn to lesbian/bisexual woman as a way of getting access to any pussy

2. they see themselves as women so they try to date as women

Its based they filter these people, because I'm all for 'political transness' and 'deconstructing the gender binary' but transexuals need their own spaces and communities for their support.

>>40159683
they're still lesbians if they like trans men having sex with even passing bearded ftms feels like doing it with a female
source: fucked cis women cis men and trans men

>>40160085
they were in the lesbian community so long they became emotionally attached to it and don't want to let go. that's all it is

>>40159741
Ime, there's barely any mtfs on HER, but ftms are super common, many of them are actually getting reposted by confused chuds who think they're mtfs, lol

>>40161819
Seriously? So these bearded men they post.. >>40161778
They're pooners? Daym.

>>40161825
not always, some of those are indeed mtfs, but I've seen a bunch who were very obvious ftms, but people mistook them for mtfs, I think most people forget that ftms even exist, to them it's just mtfs and theyfabs

>>40160653
>bisexual women
I would rather stay sexless than be with some bislut and her dicked pussy that will cuck me eventually. As >>40161763 said being with a "trans man" (or a cis woman on T like myself) doesn't necessarily feel like being with a man.

>>40159636 (OP)
a lesbian is a woman who is excluively attracted to women
if you're atrracted to men, you're not a lesbian
if you're a man or nonbinary, you're not a lesbian
it's really that simple

>>40162365
Based, trans men need to stay out of women's spaces too. Those ftmoids gave up that right when they took t

>>40160522
>"internalized homophobia" psyop
you aren't, by chance, from the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, are you?

>>40159636 (OP)
This has got to be in top ten things that don't actually matter

>>40162678
there will be one attentionwhore

>>40162365
there are a lot of transmen who call themselves like "afab guy he/they" and just drest like any alt girl with their huge tits out and full make up jobs

>>40159646
knew a trans guy who posted on Her. He would whine about how he "cant get any swipes" on a profile where he just presented as male.

honestly, it just struck me as having your cake and eat it, and I've seen quite a few trans guys do a thing where they will whip out the "but I'm not a real guy" shtick when it serves them

I'm not sure. Could it be that they are just non-binary in denial?

Are they maybe non-binary in denial?

>>40162510
No, but I am half orthodox christian half muslim by education wich doomed me anyway.

>>40162979
Disgusting, I haaaaaate that ftms feel entitled to woman's spaces. But like that's typical moid behavior..

>>40163226
ooof. brutally misogynistic religions to be raised in. i'm sorry. you're not delusional. it's ok to want what you want. it's ok to want to be a man, and take t to accomplish that. if it makes you feel better, don't analyze it too much

i really hope it works out between you and your gf. just, please, keep your own well-being in mind. i know how hard it is, if you really love someone, to not give into the urge to change yourself, when they ask you to. but they shouldn't be asking you to

>>40159980
An AFaB that has only screwed AFaBs is actually homosexual

>>40161684
uh
why wouldn't a female be welcome in a female space?

No scary sperm for PLAP and PREGNANCY
Same socialization
Same physique and brain

>>40163463
>same physique and brain
fucking kek

>>40163463
Trans men are not women so they need to stay tf out of our spaces

>>40163542
Aw come on
What are they gonna do

Poonami tsunami?
AFaBs belong with AFaBs

>>40159636 (OP)
this is the ftm equivalent of the gooner reddit/discord mtf trannies who are usually not on hrt and either have extreme honfidence or are only trans on the internet.

the lesbian trans man thing comes from the fact that theyfabs think they speak for the whole group when they themselves aren't dysphoric and just want to be "everything". this obviously harms binary trans men with actual GD and intent to transition. making trans men capable of being lesbians just messes up the word and is transphobic because it just shows that the theyfabs pushing it do not view trans men as actual men, instead keeping their wombynly "afab status" as the main thing determining their gender.

why on earth would you want to become a rapey evil moid anyways, amirite!? Oh you hated the fact that your body is full of estrogen and female puberty stunted any chance of looking like a normal man? gir- i mean bro that's just internalized misogyny! men can be feminine too dood!

they commonly use the "oh but trans men dont owe you masculinity" strategy and any outliers, even actual trans men are demonised for wanting to actually transition seriously

>>40163604
Nah your fag cum sucking ass cant dump them on us lmao

>>40163622
trvke

>>40163622
most of them I've seen are on T though, if they're just themmies they call themselves nonbinary lesbians

>>40163622
it's not transphobic. the first step in overturning the socio-ontological primacy of category is validating contradictory categories. labeling with a contradictory category is a defense against cis people interpellating us

>>40163638
Listen, I don't want them
You don't want them
But we're not adopting your fembrained females on T

>>40164030
Too bad, moids get to have the moids. I don't make the rules. If you don't like it just suck on a gun or something

>>40162678
transgenderism as a whole is filled with vain petty faggots that think they should kill themselves if someone refers to them with the wrong pronouns
the entire movement is founded on shit that doesnt fucking matter, nona

>>40159741
HER is basically anything but cis men, and Grindr is basically anything but cis women.

>>40159636 (OP)
>why does this topic trigger pooners so much?
It doesn't? Most of ftms have no problem with term "lesbian trans man".

>>40163270
Thanks anon, I think it's hard foe her and I but we both have the best intentions towards one another and are trying to get through it together.

>>40165080
Lesbian trans men don't exist though
Men can't be lesbians

>>40165080
so you're okay with people calling you women as an ftm?

>>40159994
wtf do u mean bumping uglies is the best... especially with bottom growth

>>40159636 (OP)
what the FUCK is a lesbian pooner?? Can't these freaks just stop making up shit to feel special.?

>>40159636 (OP)
because gynophile pooners are the only queer group of straight men and transmasc lesbians are straight men who are also lying snakes
it's deserved misandry, never let anyone frame it otherwise

it's not lesbophobic, it's not misogyny, it's not transphobic
it is identifying that straight trans men are straight men and straight men who try to infiltrate queer communities are garbage people

>>40166299
transmasc dykes can be fine, they just have to be honest and sincere people and take that into a relationship
but the ones who will say literally anything to get laid are just frat boys in lesbian spaces

>>40166299
FUCKING PREACH

>>40159959
>She is a gold star lesbian
No such thing.