I feel like part of loving women means severing the ability to create anything of artistic merit. There is no dearth of prominent homosexual men who are meritable writers, artists, and sophists throughout all of history, and of course heterosexual and bisexual women have created some of the most beautiful works of art across all of eternity, but it feels as if those who solely loved women are doomed to languish. In fact, I believe that if you are incapable of loving and cherishing men, then you are incapable of true artistic nirvana. The heterosexual male at least is eternal through his conquering of society, but the lesbian is an incomprehensible entity is a world where the baseline of merit is masculinity. It simply is not worth it to feel amorous or erotic for a woman if you are not a man.

>>40189056 (OP)
this is unfortunately true and the ultimate blackpill, lesbian and transbian “art” is an exercise in erotic humiliation. they are incapable of producing anything worthwhile and are carried by bisexual women
it’s why so many transbians turn to reviewing, only hontrapoints is /lit/ enough for any true worthwhile analysis

>>40189056 (OP)
men create art, women simply are art.

>>40189151
women are monsters, I wish they would disappear, I would be happy for humanity to die out to be free of them for good

>>40189184
women *are* humanity
they are the bleeding, fleshy, weeping, suffering holes from which more humans emerge
men merely have a support role in sperm competition and resource provision around the whole drama

>>40189056 (OP)
Sapphics make art all the time.
The first main lesbian was a poet.

>>40189314
In other words, women are just procreation holes and all the interesting shit humans do is mostly from males.

>>40189314
women are the cause of all suffering, all wars, and all malicious behavior

>>40189315
name the best line from those poems without looking it up

>>40189151
Heterosexual men create art simply because they were the first to define art.
Heterosexual and bisexual women enhanced art.
Homosexual men evolved art.
Homosexual women cannot comprehend art.
The usage of men for erotic pleasure is the only way to reach any type of artistic merit, for it is only the way to understand masculinity.

>>40189333
not many men are that interesting. sure men invented and did nearly everything, but that's like 0.01% of men who ever lived. most of us lived uninteresting or short lives.

and women don't *need* to do interesting shit, they *are* interesting to men by virtue of being women. evolution makes women inherently more valuable than men. i mean you could kill off 95% of men and it would barely make a dent on the population next generation.

>>40189395
>i mean you could kill off 95% of men and it would barely make a dent on the population next generation.
If you did that you'd have a massive generation of cultural, ideological, artistic, scientific, technological stagnation until the males of the next generation grew up.

David Lynch just destroys this cringe and gay post

>>40189485
David Lynch is not a lesbian.

>>40189485
>>40189504
if your "le quirky" films are this mainstream and known by everyone, you are not quirky. I studiously avoid his films and will never watch them and am sure they are 400% overhyped trash.

>>40189504
He exudes lesbian energy though

>>40189056 (OP)
>It simply is not worth it to feel amorous or erotic for a woman if you are not a man
Whatever. You've not removing homosexual females, whenever you like it or no.

>>40189476
so 95% of men die and we get set back a few decades, who cares? we'd repopulate.

kill off 95% of women and we'd be set back thousands of years, though. doesn't matter how many high IQ men you have if there's no next generation.

>>40189056 (OP)
>open thread
>thinly veiled misogyny/homophobia post

Every fucking time. Pic rel is great transbian art btw

>>40189605
100% of women should be killed, all we need is literally one person who is male and intersex and can get pregnant and we can repopulate the earth, but making sure females stay in comas and are just reproduction slaves and only men have fredom of movement and are allowed outside.

>>40189621
I could tell it was transbian "art" in how consumerist in nature it is. How it has to be a shallow facsimile to a corporate brand, rather than exist on its on merit. Thank you for this shining example in mediocrity.

>>40189632
t. coping moid

>>40189184
men kill most men, men start wars, the patriarchy harms mens mental health causing most of your suicides, the average make has no creativity or passion. men are the monsters, women bring the color to this world. without women, not only would humanity not exist, but it would be bleak painful scary and meaningless.

>>40189690
>men kill most men, men start wars,
it's called having agency
men have the capacity for evil, women don't, in the same way they don't have the capacity for invention, creativity or exploration

>>40189632
ive never seen anything more pathetic in my life, you have obviously never felt the love or touch of a woman because it heals all

I thought it was silly but reading the responses to this thread I think op has a point now.

>>40189722
women leave me cold
I wish to be away from them forever
they can only lie and hurt and backstab
they have no good in their soul

>>40189714
women start all wars from behind the scenes

>>40189714
so in your "ideal" world. you think only men should exist walking around killing amd hurting each other all the time? i would pay to see that lmao, i wish men would all just kill each other

>>40189662
>says art is bad
>does not consume said art
Its an album you dumb fuck, hop off your high horse chud

>>40189534
Do you think Lynch is Wes Anderson or something? I won't admonish you for your immature mindset because I was also once a teenager who was insecure about their taste. You'll grow out of it

>>40189632
>all we need is literally one person who is male and intersex and can get pregnant
Biological male intersex can't get pregnant.

>>40189737
something very sad must have happened to you in your childhood to leave you feeling this hopeless and abandoned. you look outside and 80% of people walk around happy bathing in the existence of women and yet here you are blaming all of them for the pain youve endured. giving up on women is like giving up on happiness and i can tell you're depressed from the way youre talking. just sad

>>40189762
It's the same concept except Wes Anderson is far more twee and self conscious. Overly promoted mediocre films that are not remotely risky.

>>40189775
chimeras and swyers can

>>40189779
yeah women abusing me and everyone defending them and taking their side and blaming me
fuck them I hope they all get tortured and thrown in a river

>>40189744
there is no ideal world, all existence implies suffering
i'm a man going into middle age, i've got all kinds of health complaints and i'm relatively lucky
i've got decades longer to live and i'll suffer much more before i die
the longer i live the more i think having children is a terrible imposition to make on those children, imagine bringing someone else into the world, imagine your kid asking you why you thought that was a good idea

>>40189714
>men have the capacity for evil, women don't
girl is out here living in medieval times, way to remove feminine agency

>>40189822
behold, feminine agency

>>40189822
its funny that female supremacists will simultaneously deny women have any agency at all when you accuse them of being harmful

women are the biggest abusers in society and we would be better off without them, even if that meant a massive change in how we live

>>40189354
> Homosexual women cannot comprehend art
Very trve

>>40189822
For real, that was the type of ancient sexist rhetoric fucking Shakespeare was criticizing in his plays.

>>40189849
That's not true, lesbians are good at painting, they just suck at writing.

>>40189856
Women are literally the original sinner
Dafuq are you smoking

>>40189876
>lesbians are so good at painting…..vaginas and other ugly subject matter
hence the “not comprehending” part

>>40189883
Have you ever read Macbeth? Lady Macbeth believed herself to be incapable of committing true evil due to her sex. She believed that only men were capable of evil actions, so she wished upon demons to remove her feminine traits to replace with masculinity. The twist is that she's just as evil and conniving as her husband.

>>40189898
no i collect paintings, I dunno if they are lesbians but I have some nice landscapes by females
they tend to have a good eye for fine detail and texture I love gloppy oil paintings where the paint is kinda layered on thick in different colors

>>40189805
so why cant you just hate the women that were involved, why do you have to live so miserably hating half of the population for something they didnt do. i mean bc if women say they hate all men suddenly the internet goes crazy talking "not all men" but ppl like you can hate all women and get away with it? and im sorry that happened to you

>>40189930
>if women say they hate all men suddenly the internet goes crazy talking "not all men" but ppl like you can hate all women and get away with it
this is the opposite, women hate men publicly and routinely, the mildest male criticism of women gets you flamed and ostracized

>>40189930
because I've noticed men never really go as far and don't get as deeply involved in it, women act like they are performing some heroic duty by policing me for being an assertive gay male, and I wish they all fucking died painfully for their crimes against me, I wasn't the only man this happened to, they do it to all feminine males, and society lets them get away with it

>>40189842
well considering that would never happen, i just hope for your safety you dont think about hurting women because at the end of the day it would just fall back on you. and practice peace, living angrily cant be good for your mental health

>>40189805
>chimeras
That's extremely rare condition. And you still need regular female phenotype for that.
>swyers
Swyers are AFABs with XY chromosomes.They're not AMABs.

>>40189923
>willy, renown foppish bisexual, was the first person progressive enough to write evil women
based

>>40189937
okay well im leaving this chat here because you sre obviously stuck in some kind of echo chamber. lose the victim mindset man, we live in a patriarchy you can do wtv tf you want go live it up before rage consumes you

>>40189956
The government should be hurting women, not me. I just want to be away from women entirely, not touch them at all.
Women are not peaceful. They have spent my whole life trying to aggress upon me and accuse me of imaginary word crimes. They have done massive harm to men the world over and nobody cares. Nobody wants to stop them. People like you will just defend them no matter what.

>>40189968
swyers are incorrectly assigned, they have visible male traits someone who was XX would not have

society pretends feminine men are women - that's why trannies exist

>>40189950
men on this very website are posting pictures of gay men being murdered and beaten. fym they dont "go as far" women led the stonewall movement FIR gay rights. women specifically lesbians were the only ones who were there for gay men during the aids movement. mlm media is portrayed about 10x as much as wlw because people just like gay men that much more. i suggests surrounding yourself with a good queer support system, you'll find that are bound to find good people. wishing u happiness<3

>>40189975
we obviously live in a matriarchy, claims about patriarchy are pure projection
women think men all conspire together to put themselves on top because women are unable to see men who aren't top 0.1% chads, wealthy, powerful or celebrities as human, so they ignore the 99.9% of men who have fuck all power and never will
women really do all conspire together against men though

>obvious schizobait thread
>it works
>everyone is mad now

>>40190003
>swyers are incorrectly assigned
>they have visible male traits someone who was XX would not have
They aren't and they literally have wombs anon.
So, they're biologically AFABs

>>40189982
and what happens after the government decides they dont want to stop at women? what happens when they decide to believe all the harmful stereotypes against gay men? you wanting to allow the government to genocide as a minority is actual insanity and i suggests surrounding yourself you pick up a few books to see where that leads

>>40190037
they do not have wombs, they have undifferentiated mullerian tissue that in ONE instance was somehow made into a womb that could accept a donated egg

>>40190045
they would stop at women because only women are causing the problem, its in their nature

>>40190036
i feel like everybody just missed the point
transbians fucking suck at art (it’s true)

>>40190065
sure its in WOMENS nature alright...

>>40190036
It wouldn't be 4chan otherwise.

>>40190065
>>40190037
>>40190003
I know a swyer (ftm) from this board.
He told me he's a biological female. That's why he's ftm

>>40190099
Rape is literally defined as a crime only men can commit against women. When you have a system designed to police men, that's what it's going to show.

Also, why is it ok to judge men collectively, but not women?

>>40190073
You would honestly think trans people were capable of artistic merit, but I feel like too many of them lack the necessary eroticism to create anything meaningful. The sex is there, the allure is not. Eroticism is a necessary component of anything of artistic merit. It's why gay men are so good at it.

>>40190194
shiw me anywhere, by law, that rape is defined as a crime against women. now, it is COMMONLY a rape against women, same as murder which is why we call it femicide. and no, our legal system for rape and murder has only slightly changed since the beginning of americas creation so youre telling me that the legal system that was created at the same time that women legally had no rights and were lynched is the same legal system designed AGAINST men?? you have some type of hysteria man. and dont sit bere and say your are simply JUDGING women you said you want women killed, that is not as the same thing.

>>40190285
only men can be accused of rape in the UK because its defined as penis into vagina
the criminal justice system is literally women pitting men against each other for their benefit
the purpose of the system is to keep men down, women receive lesser sentences as a rule and are rarely even accused let alone convicted of crimes because you and others believe them to be constitutionally incapable of crime or malice

>>40190373
>only men can be accused of rape in the UK because its defined as penis into vagina
So anally raping someone is fine there?

>>40191108
I think if physical damage is caused that can be charged separately, but really I think if someone is doing that others abused THEM and you need to help that person act normally or just deport them if its a non white
housing non whites in prison instead of deporting them is a massive waste of time and money

>>40189056 (OP)
pretty sure SOPHIE was gynephilic

>>40191331
also, he jumped on purpose and meant to kill himself

>>40189476
that is generally what killing half the population does yeah

>>40189056 (OP)
I feel like this argument breaks down pretty quickly when you look at brain scans.
The real argument is that straight women dont produce much of any worth.
Where ass gay women noticeably produce much more worth simply by virtue of having more of a male brain.

That said, i think the kinkier and more neurodivergent you are the more interesting art you're likely to create.
Its seems counter intuitive to me that a straight man who is usually quite boring would be capable of creating interesting art but then again iv never really bothered to think about it but i think OP should compile a list of all gay artists and then compare it to a list of all straight artists and then we should judge who is better.

>>40192382
brain scans mean absolutely nothing in this case, they are to detect brain bleeds or cancer

bump

>>40189056 (OP)
yeah fuck mary oliver haha am I doing it OP please bath in sour cream you mold

>>40193924
Had sex and loved men so she understands the necessary masculinity that art fails to exist without, All of her influences were men too. A lesbian can transcend her self-made barriers if she accepts her love for men. Only then may she create something eternal.

>>40189927
Political lesbians don’t count

I don't know why you think straight men and lesbians can't produce art, but it's wrong. Tons of famous historical artists were straight men. Less were lesbians, but you an still see a lot of them:
https://www.sushi-rider.com/friends-of-dorothy/sapphic-artists.html
And today you still see lesbian singers like Hayley Kiyoko and Chappell Roan.

>>40195408
political lesbians aren't a real thing

>>40189056 (OP)
There is a very simple philosophy behind this.
The love between homosexual men is actually same-sex attraction; unlike lesbianism, it is found and nature, and two men are actually capable of showing amorous and erotic love for each other.
Lesbianism is specifically a human construct. It is inherently political and formed as a response to the patriarch of the household as a means of rebellion, identity, and otherness, similar to being non-binary or other identities beyond the worldly spectrum. It is why all lesbian artists focus on the lesbianism aspect of the art or whether the artist is a lesbian, as opposed to anything of artistic comprehension beyond that. Being a lesbian means everything is tethered to lesbianism; gay men do not suffer this fate. Lesbians do not feel amorous or erotic love; their love is strictly sexual and cannot last in a vacuum (insert divorce rate and spousal abuse rate meme here).
Transbians are somewhat of an evolution of lesbianism, but they sacrifice their role in the patriarchy to, like a CIS lesbian, form a specific identity that all their art is tethered to (heterosexual and bisexual trans women do not suffer such a fate, they are, essentially, a normal woman). The male brain does allow the transbian to sporadically produce things of artistic value, but such things are rare.
Trans men operate similarly to heterosexual women, but only if they're gay; they understand men, therefore they can create art.

>>40189056 (OP)
>meritable sophists
go back right now

>>40189056 (OP)
Whatever man. Go practice if art is so important to you. Put in the hours and honour the muse.

this thread is retarded go make art instead

foids mad like clockweeeerk

>>40198979
When aren't they?