/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics. All wlw welcome to participate in lesbian discussion.

QOTT
>Have you ever kissed another girl on the lips?

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>>40195706 (OP)
Not since transitioning
kms

>>40195706 (OP)
one trans girl once

>>40195706 (OP)
>qott
kissed my wife this morning

>>40195706 (OP)
qott: Yes, but only as a boy.

>>40195735
that doesn't count

qott: i've never kissed anyone but i have been kissed if that makes sense

>>40195706 (OP)
>QOTT
>Have you ever kissed another girl on the lips?
Yes but it's been YEARS ;_;

>>40196180
/clg/ is over there

>it's no longer supposed to rain today

>>40196544
whom are you quoting

>>40196544
sans undetale when he talks to you in mettatton resort:

>>40195706 (OP)
>QOTT: Have you ever kissed another girl on the lips?
yeah me and a friend of mine kissed, its just what friends do...

>tfw no non-hijab shia muslim gf

eating mcdonalds on my lunch break from my stupid fucking wageslave job who wants me

took a shower and washed my hair and now i'm watching leftist politics twitch who wants me

>>40197430
sorry bbyjirl i prefer my asses unwashed

>tfw no gf to share mcdonalds fries with
jdimsa

do you think they're going to start retroactive denaturalization

i love faggy transbians but the straight male acting ones give me the ick

>>40199061
same but i kinda have a soft spot for the ones who used to be straight males and now are faggy botttoms, whether it is for cis men or other trannies. the ones who go from straight male to transbian top are always creepy however. the only good transbian tops are the ones who used to be faggy twinks, or were too dysphoric to top as men so now they unleash their repressed top as a tranny

>>40199011
it's practically a guarantee, Project 2025 Phase 2 begins in a little under a month
they are speedrunning the trajectory of Weimar and Nazi Germany, and America is likely going to fracture along state lines by the end of the year

>>40199114
they're going to send me to south sudan for being an illegal puerto rican 6th generation anchor baby FUCK

worth it if this mf goes away tbqh

Trying to convince my rape trauma gf to have sex with me part 7

>>40199011
make america white again

racists aren't human

>>40199467
it's true idk why we haven't evolved to a global society without borders yet

>>40199086
gaygen is over there

>>40199497
probably because psychopathy is much more prevalent than we think it is

lesbian frotting while consensually pinning them against a wall and making out

>>40199821
this desu
world is a fuck

>>40199061
sorry for being culturally straight i guess

Ah so i have brain damage because of the lead in my vapes

can i load my save state from 2005 and do everything over please

Nah, I haven't... Wish I had a weird furry girl to kiss and fall in love with with tho :(

>>40201897
what would you do differently?

>>40202150
learn spanish and other languages from a young age
take music lessons
act more normal and not alienate/weird out everyone around me
keep up with pop culture and trends
buy bitcoin

if i got sent back to 05 id mine bitcoin

>>40201897
this

>>40202280
lame except the bitcoin part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbjAcmNWX-Y

>>40204383
oh my fucking god you goddamn loser are you seriously posting five nights at freddys music?

>>40204464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThcicjAXPwc

They're peak. They're FUCKING PEAK.

Inshallah I will make out with this enby on Sunday. It is written.

A cis woman platonically kissed me on the lips tonight. That was weird

>>40199497
still not in the mood for a one world government reptile jew, ask again later

Middle grade yuri sustains me.

>>40206524
not beating the pedo allegations

>>40206603
not me

i've been in such a fnaf mood all month it's crazy

>>40195706 (OP)
Yes but christ it's been half a decade.

pinning a mtfemby against the wall and furiously making out with them

Are he/them lesbians valid?

>>40207127
if they don't fuck men and aren't on T, then, yes, they are valid lesbians. pronouns are just words

>>40206603
Not my fault they are hot

>>40207127
Yes, as long as you're not black.

I really love touching myself

this SUCKS i can't fucking sleep i just keep thinking about them

>>40207157
Absolutely valid. In the same way men who identify as women, or use female pronouns can't be lesbians. It takes more than words.

>>40207127
all lesbians are valid

>>40207396
What about me? I'm a male lesbian.

>>40207405
not a lesbian

>>40207414
I thought all lesbians are valid. What's the matter? It's just words.

>>40207435
All lesbians are valid but you aren't a lesbian so you are not a valid lesbian

>>40207435
>words don't mean things
this is dumb but also i get you since this entire thread is (((male))) lesbians anyway

>>40207388
Checkedler never died
the Hologram's a lie
six alien juice
sho me da proof

>>40207481
We got there.

6ixallion tha poof

>>40195706 (OP)
I think I lost my damn mind.

>5+ hours on the shitty board daily
>I look like a ghoul
>my rooms a mess
>I keep calling people slurs on here
>addicted to talking to you fucking losers for some reason
>constant nightmares of /tttt/ trannies bullying me
>can't socialize because I'm too brainwormed

I'll make a thread on this later, but holy fuck I think there's something wrong with my head. I'm addicted to this fuckass board, it's ruining me mentally.

He must buy bitcoin...

>>40207533
YOUR NOT ME SHUT THE FUCK UP REPPER FAGGOT.

Gooned for 3hrs and now I feel sick

>>40207556
I'm the resident repper here get out of my thread bitch

>>40207566
FUCK YOU. THIS IS MY THREAD BITCH.

i got 90 minutes of sleep

>>40207530
post arms

>>40207610
why arms?

>>40207589
You literally just got here. I've infected this thread with my essence for years

I am a transfem with a cute shortstack cis wife, that is all

>>40207682
show us her kitty pls

>>40207682
You two should make videos. I'm running out of TonF stuff.

>>40207781
okiii

>>40207810
baby

>>40207388
What like pinning a shit load of E?

>>40207667
it's time to transition then

>>40207810
ok now show us her vagina

>>40207682
Don't be so shy come on we're all friends here

>>40195706 (OP)
Lawine and Kanne kissing would be the best thing to happen to this show

>>40207810
cute!

I haven't washed my hair in 7 years

>>40208739
GIGACHAD

>>40208754
ty

Lesgen rules are clear. If you acquire a cis gf or wife, you must share pics of her naked

I went garage saling like i always do to occupy myself and distract from the chronic emptiness and regrets and i ended up stopping at the pawn shop to look around and the sign said open so i went up to it and the door was locked. I tried the other door because ive been there before and i know that only one door works and it was locked too. Then i looked at the store hours and looked at my phone to make sure they werent closed and they werent. Then i looked around for a sign that says which door to use and i didnt see one so i tried the first door again with a little more force because i assumed that i was being retarded and dont know how to open doors probably because thats usually the case. Then the owner comes in and says "if it didnt open the first time then its not gonna open" then he unlocks it and says "hey how ya doin". I wanted to be a DECENT FUCKING HUMAN BEING(tm) and not assume everything was about me and i didnt process it immediately so i assumed that he was talking to someone else in the store. I went in and he was the only one there. I sheepishly walked over to the games feeling embarrassed and waited for an opportunity to leave and now my day is ruined and i spent the drive home hating myself for being such a stupid retard. Why am i such a fucking retarded fuckup that me doing anything pisses people off. I cant do anything right.

sex pest thread

>>40208879
>Then the owner comes in and says "if it didnt open the first time then its not gonna open" then he unlocks it and says "hey how ya doin".
Cinema

Everywhere i go i'm just a bumbling buffoon that makes everyone's day worse just by existing

Its like i have dreams of traveling and maybe even traveling with friends but i just cant relate to anyone and if i did travel to even a city in america i'd end up just being a fucking weirdo and making a fool of myself at every possible opportunity. Im completely worthless. I cant do anything.

>>40208873
what about a troonwife

>>40209288
theyre probably going to ssay they dont count dont even bother asking stupid questions god this thread is shit

I go about my life like i'm running for mayor of nothing

>>40207090
forcing mtfemby to identify as a girl, making her get her legal sex changed to female, and upping her estrogen dose so she gets more feminine

It's like i got so mad at myself for being hurt and angry for being "mistreated" because this kind of scenario is probably what all those joker is literally me types go through and point to as the reason why they're edgy misanthropes and i felt even more pathetic and worthless.

I thought of what i could have done differently on the way home and i thought of some stupid comebacks (ex. "t's 17 past 10 unlock the fucking shit you lazy cunt") but like yeah maybe he should have unlocked the door when they opened but also maybe i shouldn't have been acting like mouthbreathing retard

>>40209352
this but she has no idea how fem she already is even though you already have trouble forcibly respecting her enby pronouns

fujoshi mtf x fujoshi mtf couple who larp as gay guys during sex...

>>40208978
you have negative karma from posting here as a moid

>>40209407
>man unlocks door for you
>"hey how ya doin"
billions must die
you are honestly such a horrible person, I hope you share your rage sperging one day publicly and get deservedly lynched

Now i'm getting mad at myself for walking into gamestop last week even tho the one worker there was clearly on his smoke break
I'm actually just a piece of shit and yet i have the biggest persecution complex in history

I literally can never go to that pawn shop again

I've been shadowbanned irl that's crazy

It's like i feel like i should defend myself because the guy was rude to me but maybe i shouldn't have been acting like a tweaker nigger
Do you know how much it sucks having a self preservation drive but knowing intuitively that it's wrong for you specifically to preserve yourself because you're bad

I mean my phenotype screams "no child left behind"

Why did my therapist lie and say that i don't have schizophrenic speech patterns

>>40207289
Huh

throwing the thread peasants some yuri grain

god i want to press my tits into hers i mean theirs

>>40211179
how big are hers/theirs?

>>40211215
i dunno like b cups ish

maybe black people are genetically inferior like despite growing up white i'm still just fucking stupid and lazy and useless

>>40211233
do they wear a bra or is that not gender neutral enough

>>40211426
uhhh i think they mentioned wearing a bra once but i don't know for sure, hard to tell with their fashion

met up with another trans girl i'm friends with who lives a few hours away a few weeks ago and ended up making out for a considerable aamount of the time i was there

would someone like to kill me?
please?

jordan doesn't even talk to me anymore

Was flirting with unfairly hot transbian but im scared cuz she is really good at flirting and i feel like im polnareff in the dio encounter/fight (jojo part 3) like i keep walking up the stairs but then im back at the bottom of the stairs but here its the opposite. its like she has a stando power... im not kidding..
She is smarter than me i can tell that much ;_;

ladies what does it mean when hanging out with them feels effortless and free and making them smile and laugh makes your heart feel just a little bit lighter than it was before

>>40212444
and your diapers?

>>40213063
full and unchanged
im about to get the same cancer that pamperchu got

>>40212798
love???

jordan won the fucking war
i have no friends now

i can't make friends because i try to appear normal by hiding all the weird psycho rapist aspects of my personality but that's my whole personality so i just come across as a mouthbreathing husk

>>40213348
could be worse, I'm just boring

>>40213371
how is that worse it's a draw at most

>>40213379
you have a personality

>>40213403
a personality that no one likes so i can't ever show it to new people so i have to feign being boring to the point where i sound like i've been lobotomized. you are your whole self in every situation.

>>40209780

>>40213155
don't be ridiculous, there's got to be a different word which means basically the same thing but carries zero connotations

>>40195706 (OP)
>/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis and trans women
>look inside
>all trans

god they're so so so fun this is bad

>>40210470
you have normie-psychosis speech patterns

lago can you let me (jordan) back into the server so i can fuck olive? please?

>>40215803
updooted

i got snakebites
am i cool now?

mtf x mtnb lesbianism

>>40209780
I wish I looked like that
Too bad being muscular mtf never hits the same

>>40215730
>normie-psychosis
oxymoron

>>40218459
yeah because it's hotter

my girlfriend broke my bed last night. literally. my bedframe is broken.

>>40218701
can't wait to do this to someone's bed

each day everything just gets bleaker and bleaker

>>40218535
it sounds like anxiety and self hate so bad that it's morphed into a borderline delusional sense of worthlessness and lack of hope

>>40218989
bleak

>>40218989
take your pills and start a high protein calorie deficit diet alice

>>40218683
Makes me pass less though

>>40219126
keyword "borderline"
because it's not delusional at all lol

alright time to learn spanish i hope i can hit my goals today unlike yesterday

>>40219908
transition goals: it's over, never started
duolingo goals: reached, in the top 1000 on the scoreboard

I'm gonna kiss them tonight I'm gonna do it!

>>40216903
apparently not ( ._.)

Who is behind this propaganda?
>>40208015
>>40220470
>>40215174

>>40220802
whoever they are they're doing god's work

>>40213152
kek

Why does the transbian im talking to atm like chance subject and go *cough cough* and then ask me something else?
Its such bizarre behavior.

c4t is beautiful

t4nb > t4t = t4c

>>40222012
god made afabs to be with amabs so it's perfect

>>40215803
eat my tacos first.

Is Luz still on HRT or did she stop again?

Lowkey realizing Lago made this thread better not worse... vibes are bad lately

>>40224910
luz never started hrt

>>40195706 (OP)
i wanna fuck jordan in the ass with my transbian shrimpdick.

>>40225392
she did absolutely nothing wrong, he should have texted her and everything would have been okay. he thinks he can abandon her and ignore her and treat her like shes worthless and get away with it??

>>40223989
im white but damn those are some white people tacos we gotta teach u how to cook

Olivia will u invite jordan and I over for a bbq :3

I did not make out with them

>>40207530
get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out

>>40228046
rip

>>40223989
>foppish iceberg lettuce
>shredded cheese
>raw tomatoes
>flour tortillas
absolutely yakubian

making gf get gock feminization surgery so itll be cuter and more feminine

>>40229474
what does this entail
*kicking feet*

>>40229878
SRS

>>40229292
you literally made that up. youre retarded.

>>40229254
It hurts a lot even though the night wasn't a disaster

>>40230445
I'm sorry she is 100% correct. I'd still eat them though. The unmelted preshredded cheese is like almost charming even and nostalgic. Like taco tuesday in elementary school or something.

>>40230483
shame
this is why I dont have expectations anymore

>>40230666
taco tuesday is on thursday

Honestly iceberg lettuce is such bullshit there is absolutely no reason to ever buy that shit. My grandparents buy bags of preshredded iceberg lettuce it sucks so much don't be that way that's corny boomer shit. Get a dark leafy green instead or even cabbage. Cabbage is infinitely better it's crunchier has more nutrients actually tastes like something and is very versatile in the kitchen

>>40230681
Lmao I try so hard to have no expectations and in all other cases it's perfectly fine but with them we get along so well that I can't help myself at all
10 minutes into being near them again and I am right back to falling

>>40230756
sounds tough, sorry nona, hopefully things dont go poorly <3

>>40230747
I like spinach and cress, tho they dont really have the crunch, not a fan of lettuce or cabbage caus they have a funny aftertaste

>>40230794
Yeah raw cabbage has a certain panache to it that is controversial. I like to thinly shred it and make a slaw first that always makes it taste yummy

>>40230825
oh coleslaw is good I'll give it that
and yeah I am Very picky with my veg, savory green leaves only, no fruit or anything thats too sweet etc

>>40226134
only at a park lol. i dont trust jordan knowing where i live.

>>40231155
Okay we are experts on park bbq so that works

>>40231155
antagonize Jordan into attacking so you can shoot her legally, problema resuelto

>>40231185
Jordan doesn't act like that that's retarded

>>40231205
Yeah she's a pussy we kno

>>40231220
Idk I just don't feel like she would fall for an rpg taunt ability that is a humorous mental image tho

my friends say i am worthy of love and yet no one loves me. checkmate atheists

>>40231632
people who say that are cowards

Test

my entire neck is red and yellowish from bruising and i have meetings i have to attend this week
its kind of over for faggots in white collar positions

>>40231868
I want to be the one making this happen for someone else
It's not fair

>>40231868
yeah cool your life is great we get it

>>40231653
which part

I started flossing 2x a day and salt rinsing after every meal just so when I finally get to kiss them it's guaranteed to be as good as it can possibly be

>>40232642
You would let her kiss you if she had coffee cigarette breath.

>>40232408
it shouldn't be difficult to figure it out

>>40232897
True, I would do that time after time without hesitation. HOWEVER,

>>40232972
it is if you're autistic like i am

>>40205956
pity kiss

>>40233045
No the autism should help you

>>40195706 (OP)
>Have you ever kissed another girl on the lips?
now that i think about it ive only kissed girls

>>40195706 (OP)
no i'm a khhv :(

>>40195706 (OP)
ive only kissed men in the lips but im not into men anymore and im scared of women so i havent kissed anyone in 4 years

>>40233705
badfeel

>>40233728
yea..

is 37 x 25 valid

making gf go to the same ffs and srs surgeons as you to fuel your incest fetish

>>40234432
this is why t4t is haram

>>40233991
invalid

>>40234454
but i... they...

>>40234548
sorry nona primes belong with other primes

>>40233991
honestly once the younger person is 25 age gaps stop being predatory. 25yos are old enough to know better and cant be groomed, so unless the 25yo has a mental disability then its ok

>>40233991
yes but it would be unironically hotter if it were 37 x 18

>>40195706 (OP)
>Have you ever kissed another girl on the lips?
Yeah, I kiss my gf every day...

ive been work on losing weight by bot eating for a whole week and working on situps and boxing so i can get my ex gf back, what do i do next? i want to get strong bc she likes buff women

>>40235378
beat me up with a rock until im dead


.....pls

>>40195706 (OP)
Why won't girls fuck me up the ass?
Its not fair bros..

>>40235378
skinny bitch

>>40195706 (OP)
ill let you choke me just please peg me, plz..

>>40235413
>>40235435
<333 ty

but really i do want my gf back, the breakup came out of nowhere ):

>>40235827
same :( it's hopeless for me though

>>40235378
>tfw no sub gf with this physique to sexually bully

>>40237112
i mean if you’re offering, i’m single now so please????

my girlfriend left and now she's not near me and i wont get to see her for a long long time (a week)

>>40237898
sorry but i'm chasing someone else
i hope we both get what we're after

post op boymoder gf

They haven't talked to me in 9 hours I'm gonna die in real life

is lago ok? did the yakuza kidnap her for being latina?

>>40220802
Complete lunacy, if I didn't know better I would say it's pol or sharty

>>40241892
im not pol or sharty

>>40238087
i can relate except it’s my ex and she’s taking some space for the week. i can’t wait until she’s back ngl, she turned me into a dog
>>40238485
<3

>>40195706 (OP)
No, I’ll never kiss anyone, I’ll never be loved by anyone, I’ll never hug or kiss or have sex, and I thank god I’ll die before such a thing could happen

>>40242253
ohmiglob, the flags are still here ;o;

I wonder. How do lesbians even meet up? You know as well as I do that almost everybody stays huddled up indoors these days and it's doubly true for women since they're afraid to be out and about alone.

>>40242522
yeah because you're out prowling for piv

>>40242863
it could happen if young women dared to walk outside alone.

piv fiends are the count orlok of the transbian community

>wake up
>still no word
it's fine it's perfectly fine i'm not worried i'm not slowly beginning to panic and my heart isn't painfully yearning to talk to them about everything and nothing

>>40243100
come to me..........

pussy pining piv predators prowling

>>40240750
lagoloaf died on the way to her home planet

>>40242522
lesbian bars (while they still exist) and lesbian events apparently

lesbians just visit gay bars where I live but so do het women, because cis get women have to be everywhere, so it's a mess

>>40243879
nevermind everything is right in the world good things are possible

ex is being blunt with me over messages when trying to sort things out, but when she sees me in person she hugs me and tells me she missed me so much. what tf is going on? how can i soften her edges?

>>40240750
ICE detention :( they're questioning her mom's naturalisation

>>40245677
likely avoidant or something
either she's people pleasing when she sees you or she's being manipulative, either way you should take her bluntness as honesty aand probably just move on

>>40245677
maybe she misses you and doesnt know how to properly express that. im like her and thats what i found the issue was

>>40245732
if lago is the price we pay to have secure borders it's worth it imo

>>40245875
racists are human
what did illegals ever do to you

>>40245917
AREN'T

>>40245917
>>40245958
prejudice and fear is the core of human life

>>40245917
>>40245958
BASED

>>40245794
i hope that’s the case and she takes me back, i literally didn’t do anything wrong she just left after three years ;;
>>40245772
i’ll move on if this is what it is but i want to stay hopeful this early on

>>40245958
true

>cisfchasergen filled out in less than 3 hours
do better lesgen.

>>40240750
Lagos not white ?…

>>40247404
Only full of people (not even cis women) arguing about chasers we’re good ty

>>40247404
lago isn't here to carry it and I'm trying to be less of an antagonistic troll/self-hating fake lesbian fake tranny and spam hate or bait here

>>40247404
lagogen is obsolete

quick someone else start blogposting to fill the lago void

@caca wanna go to sapphic factory at empty bottle this weekend

>>40247723
oki. i just went thru a break up, but we have four months left on our house contract (renters), it sucks so much. i pushed for her to go away for the week to stay with friends so we both have space. i’m feeling extra gay and i miss her like crazy. i’ve just been trying to focus on my job/career, health and hobbies with friends to distract myself but still find myself crying in the office /:

>>40248504
With whom? Are you cis?

>>40247723
Okay ill blogpost

Im sad and pathetic, probably going to be homeless unless someone takes pity on me and takes me in

>>40246383
yeah hopefully it goes well for u nona

>>40247723
OLIVE PLEASE TAKE ME BACK I'M SO EMPTY WITHOUT YOU

>>40249054
im a tranny but there will be cissies there

>>40249689
Sorry the thought of rolling up to a sapphic event with a troon squad is too cringy.

>>40247723
I'm not a real woman or a real lesbian and it brings me anguish for reasons I don't fully comprehend or accept

>>40249861
true, but apparently that’s the best way to meet cislessies
>I will never be in a troon squad with caca
why even live

I want to go back.
I did not miss this website at all.

>>40252908
yeah, you might not want to look at the archive at all either. Jordan and stacker fucked olive and got her chipped while you were gone..

>>40252958

>>40252908
how did u escape ice captivity?

>>40247473
Ew no, I’m chicana.
>>40253057
I have the best fortune.

meow

my ex has been online in like the middle of the night quite a lot and when i see her she looks so tired. she broke up with me but i fee like this is really hitting her too and i’m worried about her. i hope she’s able to make peace with how she’s feeling or talk to me about it sometime </3

>>40249442
<333

>>40254670
I’ve done the online status stalking too. Are you hoping she reaches out so you can get back together? You sound really caring, don’t get hurt again okay?

>>40254734
i’m not even stalking, we’re at the top of each other’s contacts bc we messaged so often when away from each other so i see it when i open socials ;;

i don’t want to take her back like immediately bc she really hurt me but i do love her and think if this is a bump in the road we could both do with time apart anyway. the time apart being forever breaks my heart

(also i lied i did look at her profile once or twice this week to see how she’s doing)

Middle grade yuri sustains me.

>>40254771
Stalking felt like a harsh word to use - I get it. I think it’s normal to be curious what your ex is up to even while maintaining distance. Hope things work out for you, either way. Is being friends with her again something you want?

>>40195706 (OP)
does it count if she was a pooner theyfab?

>>40254800
What’s the appeal? Those always bored me as a kid, but maybe because they were all het. Is it like reading about those innocent GL one-shots?

>>40254803
i would really like to keep living together because even after the break up we still laughed and joked about things, we really really get on. The only thing I would struggle with is if she moved on with somebody else.

>>40254815
I read queer romance exclusively, het relationships bore me to tears so that could be it. I just think the dynamic is more interesting in homosexual relationships. A lot of it is wish fulfillment as well desu.

anyone want a housewife?

ill umm

keep stuff clean for you and stuff

>>40252908
Stop posting

>>40254698
:3

SHE CALLED ME AND SOUNDED SO FRIENDLY IM GAY PANICKING I LOVE HER!!!!!!! I WANT HER BAAAACK

>>40253020
What the HECK is going on here FOLKS

>>40253020
they are commiting sin

Paige I’m gooning my little sissy cock like you asked me to, mommy. I’m gonna cum and swallow my girly loads from my little futa clitty gock. Please unblock me.

>lardo returns
ew
>sissy cock paige gooner returns
lesgen is saved

lago were the japanese people racist to u? my black friend told me one guy made monkey noises at her when she went there among other stuff

>>40257316
Holy based

>>40257196
you fool. dont you understand what this means? sissy paige gooner poster was lago this whole time

>>40257325
Looking into this.

>>40257320
every racist tranny ive met has always looked like a downs syndrome chud with long hair so im just gnna assume ur the same

New >>40257424

Why do the best female chasers act like dudebros? I get it's because they're femreppers or w/e but it's kind of funny.