Thread 40201991

Gays and trans should both be recognized as neurological intersex and brought under the intersex umbrella.

Advantages:
- is scientifically true
- keeps left wing intersectional lunatics out of gays and trans
- group membership is objective and can be tested by brain scan
- replaces falsehood of "community" with truth of "medical condition"
- puts kindly doctors back in charge of gatekeeping
- promotes efforts to find a cure for our condition

>>40201991 (OP)
>group membership is objective and can be tested by brain scan
we're not there yet. but maybe one day...

>>40202058
we've been able to do this for a long time, faketrannies don't like it though

>>40202069
desu i really want a brain scan, knowing that i have female digit ratio, i'd expect it to tell me that i'm a trutranny and i'd feel so relieved to know that for sure

>>40201991 (OP)
too few people realize that being attracted to men is a female trait (consciously anyway)

>>40202134
i know, i've got such a lot of hatred for pointing this out
homosexuality is fundamentally intersex

>>40202120
isnt the digit ratio stuff bs? also i dont think a brainscan would be all that indicative for anyone post-hrt but i would also like one honestly...

>>40202181
idk from what i know its hypothetical with not enough research to confirm it yet. but it would be weird if me being a tranny and me having digit ratio that is very atypical for males was just a coincidence. i know it feels anecdotal and it might be confirmation bias but too many trannies here on this board seem to have female digit ratios out of nowhere

>not indicative post-hrt
actually it would be more indicative post-hrt. how would it make sense to compare trannies with testosterone brains to cissies with estrogen brains? measuring post-hrt trannies adjusts for the differences in the brain caused by different sex hormones

>>40202140
The accent the bottoms have is 100% biological. That along with their femininity and it's like... idk it's just really obvious that they have woman brains. I get why that would offend the shit out of them but it just seems obviously true. They're OK with their male bodies so they feel no need to be trans, where trans is probably just a more severe version of the same brain wiring. I know for certain gay and trans are related states of being. They're not grouped together "just because." They've got the same sort of shit going on and it's super obvious.

>>40202296
the gay rights movement decided to pretend that homosexuality and femininity had nothing in common several decades ago when they promoted the "just want to get married like normal people" stuff
that's basically false and probably why they got their shit pushed in by trannies

The "trans umbrella" also contains self IDing retards who aren't in any way intersex

>>40202263
i think that one has been measured in the context of trannies but there's way too much noise and nothing actionable anyway
it's like how women are shorter but you'll never be able to be very certain whether a given person is a woman given only their height
>>40202296
and clearly there's a lot of variation here too
it's not like trannies are a more extreme form of gay men along a single axis when some of the trannies are lesbians. there's got to be lots of overlapping related factors.
of course there's also lots of overlapping related recognized physical intersex conditions too, so it makes sense.

and i'm still not sure what is actionable here other than trying to educate people as to the reality of all this...

>>40201991 (OP)
True but complicated by agp

>>40201991 (OP)
There is no such thing as being "neurological intersex" just as you are not physically intersex if your shoulders are wider than the average woman. Intersexuality is based on primary sex characteristics and chromosomes. This is the worst honscience to have cursed tranner internet

>>40201991 (OP)
It isn't scientifically true, it's something you just made up and would like to argue for. You're skipping the part where you actually explain how you interpret current evidence in favor of an intersex hypothesis, and how you think research should be done differently in light of this.

>>40201991 (OP)
>>40202058
>>40202069
>>40202120
Brain scans aren't objective, individual differences are too strong to be diagnostically useful. Studies that heavily use scans flatten out those differences, which is also considered a problem and means it's not really objective or universal.
>>40202181
Digit ratio is pseudo-science, while it has a kernel of truth, all the conclusions are bs.

>>40201991 (OP)
As someone who is actually intersex this shit is retarded, you guys wish you were us so bad lmao

>>40205070
>>40205320
there clearly is a neurological intersex

>>40205024
AGP trannies induce an exogenous intersex condition in themselves

>>40205070
>intersex stops at the neck
feminist-tier delusional

>>40207652
>neurologically intersex brain
>look inside
>the same old male misogyny

>>40207672
>loluraman
I'm shocked that an 80iq retard/woman would assume everyone itt is a tranner