i dont understand nonbinary people and it makes me feel bad

nonbiney

>>40205454 (OP)
i don't understand either i just try to support them mostly even if i think it's dumb :/

>>40205454 (OP)
Because people are already "nonbinary" and there is no model for being a "man", a "woman", a "transman", or a "transwoman".
It's comically sexist and redundant.

nonbiney

>>40205489
to me it kinda feels transphobic desu
>>40205499
whats agender

>>40205454 (OP)
I like to think about it like this:
The switch in my brain that is set to female even though I have a Y-chromosome is working, just set to the wrong gender. It's possible for that switch to be completely broken and not have a setting at all.

>>40205454 (OP)
its perfectly fine to not understand people's identity. if you still give them basic respect and aren't a dick there's nothing to feel bad about.

>>40205454 (OP)
I understand them really well if they're on HRT. I don't come close when they're not, and honestly don't consider them trans at all unless it's like an oppressive country stopping them kinda thing. To me, being trans is wanting to change your body from the sex characteristics it currently has, whatever the end goal is.

>>40205585
this is a good way to get manipulated into fueling people's narcissism or their fetishes

>you can't be in between man and woman
>but you can switch teams
maybe both of you are full of shit

nonbiney

>>40205867
bad bait

nonbiney

I'm nonbinary. I don't care if I am male or female. What is confusing about it?

>>40205454 (OP)
it's 50/50 on whether they're narcisstic attention seekers looking for an easy, comitment free label as an "oppressed" minority to use as a cudgel against others or if they're actual trannies coping in a retarded way with never feeling like real women, so don't feel bad

>>40206037
>i'm just going to accept whatever people tell me at face value what could go wrong

>>40205454 (OP)
im nonbinary and i dont understand myself it makes me feel bad

>>40205454 (OP)
In some level I feel I understand non binary people and even relate to them. However the only nb I ever met irl was a girl that just lived as a normal girl but insisted on masculine pronouns, and desu I find that a bit cringe. I think if nbs in general just tried to be androgynous then it'd make sense, but most seem to allign with this "nbs don't owe you androgyny" way of thinking where they put 0 effort into transitioning so they just regular people who live regular lives but put a label on their identity just cause.

TL;DR nbs are the asexuals of gender.

>>40205499
>it's comically sexist to not want to tie your name, clothing, pronouns, ID card, and entire identify to your sex
oh oh oh! what is Santa bringing? a lynch for your neck, motherfucker

>>40205523
>being trans is so transphobic
fellow nonbinary rapehons, let's rape this tranny until xe learns xyr lesson

>>40206814
until you stop nearly everyone from being heterosexual your sex will be absolutely the most important thing about you

>>40205530
yes. i am severely autistic and beleive that the CIA is satanic. i want to look like a butch lesbian and a gay femboy and i can't choose... so that's the mental state that results in the nonbinary political extremist i am known to be. i just know too much. does that make me crazy?

>>40206597
Oh I'm agender not nonbinary lol. Well I can see it anyways if someone doesn't like being either gender. Seems simple.

>>40206838
im bisexual. also, the same rhetoric is used against trans people, especially pre-op. therefore, this shows that nonbinary people are also trans because transphobes also hate them.

>>40206855
>agender not nonbinary
what's the difference? i thought nonbinary was an umbrella term. this is like "i'm pan not bi"
imagine trying to explain the difference to a crowd of norms people

>>40206865

Nonbinary associates with a non female or male gender. What that would be I have no idea. Agender doesn't.

>>40206859
trans is not a well defined concept and therefore doesn't deserve any legal recognition

>you can cross this road but you can't stand in it!
i will stand in the middle of the road with an AR-15 and shoot the next normie who looks at me or whose shadow even touches me

>>40206888
>you have to legally register as man or woman!! because !!1
sexism

>>40206893
>nooo you have to falsify documentary medical records because muh feelings

>>40206880
yeah this explanation makes zero sense to me
>im not like them. they identify as undefined. i identify as as null set. they identify as neither. i identify as nothing

>>40206901
a fucking passport isn't a medical record but i'm starting to think you aren't arguing in good faith

>>40206919
i think i should get to change my date of birth in my passport
i feel older than i actually am, where's my trans-age buddies at

>>40206929
the big brain move here is to put both on. HRT and effort can really change a person's appearance and detaining harmless trannies is a waste of time and money.

>>40205523
agender means "NO gender" like asexual means you are (usually) not sexuelly attracted or aroused. usually used by people that either hate gendernorms as a concept or people that feel they don't fit in any existing gender norm.

>>40206597
Don't care about the topic but heck yea ferrets in a collar. cute as fuck. (ps i thought non binary are both male and female in some way neither 1 nor 0 but 0.XX)

>>40206929
once again you proved enbyphobes use the same arguments against trans people against nonbinary people because nonbinary people are trans