Healing the trauma that led you to feel you being male was wrong and harmful would help a lot more than hrt.

>>40205816 (OP)
Nothing to heal there i wanted to be a girl since I was six years old if not younger.

>>40205833
because you felt the pain of being different, even when little, and others didn't help you fit in or adjust

apu is so kawaii

>>40205816 (OP)
no need for that, i like my life now

>>40205911
you don't know how much better it could be if you healed instead of coped
you are chemically numbed to the pain that never went away

>>40205964
the pain did go away though. And i'm not taking any antidepressants so idk what you mean by "chemically numbed"

>>40206064
estrogen chemically numbs your genitals

>>40205816 (OP)
sometimes im scared that im only trans because i really do hate being male because my dad was a horrible piece of shit when i was young. but now im here with suicidal levels of dysphoria so im just taking hrt and hoping the rest of my life isnt awful

>>40206105
If we could go back in time, and prevent your dad from hurting you, you might feel differently now.

don't forget to sage!

>>40206159
bump

>>40206112
yeah or we could go back in time and prevent me from being fucking born how about that? million times better either way. but we cant. im in the present, so i transition. sorry chud

>>40206091
yeah but not your mind

>>40206206
it's ok to be born male, i'm sorry others mistreated you, but that's not your fault for being male!

>>40206237
it is ok to be born male! ive had many male friends and positive male role models in my life! (even if the primary one was shitty) if being male was something i could tolerate i would happily do it and have people who would help me! but i cant. my entire life ive been trapped in a suffocating social role in a jagged claustrophobic body that has warped my appearance into something i may never be happy with. so i transition.

>>40206250
its ok for you to be male and you can tolerate it, you have to figure out who traumatized you, and why you are still reacting to that

>>40206260
yeahhh ok this is the last time im bumping your shitty thread. ur not even doing the stupid "just be a feminine male!" thing (even tho it is a bs excuse) so i cant take this seriously. if anything i was traumatized out of being able to express myself, and forced by a vast social network to conform to a life my body arbitrarily decided for me. thankfully it never broke what was inside of me and that part wants nothing more than to live as a woman. so i transition.

>>40206286
its not really bs you believe you cannot be a combination of masculine and feminine that you need to be all feminine to be loved by others and worthy of respect

you are conforming to feminine stereotypes now

>>40205816 (OP)
Kys nigger

>>40206324
no

>>40206331
Yes. It would be doing the world a HUGE favor

>>40206371
I'm not a chud. You are the chud.

>>40205816 (OP)

I just don't like male body oder, male facial and body hair, male body fat %, how male skin feels, male fat distribution, male fashion, and male gender roles. It's not about trauma it's just about very strong preferences. I've been shaving my legs and wearing girl clothes and seeing myself as a girl since age 12. Haooened totally organically

>>40206091

I was gooning like 10-20 times a day before estrogen. I was literally in pain.

Masturbating a few times a week is much more normal, so a bit of a power reduction was good in my case.

>>40206447
maybe you could talk to someone about why you felt these compulsive sexual urges instead of just breaking your genitals

>>40206260
based

>>40206437
Have you tried only eating healthy and showering more than once a week? That's going to fix your issues more than dressing in drag.

>>40205816 (OP)
Blockers doused a fire that had been burning in my medulla oblongata ever since I hit puberty

>>40206885
We don't welcome nigger loving kikes round these parts. You best leave faggot.

>>40205816 (OP)
being male is objectively wrong and harmful and no trauma made me think that

>>40206958
Based!!

>>40206943
I don't need your welcome, too bad for (you) i guess

>>40206958
>and no trauma made me think that
lol

>>40206478

Lol if you have any idea what therapy is like you'd know that it isn't exactly a grat way to repress-- they pretty much encourage you to see yourself as normal and troon out, or if they're non affirming they basically don't say anything. I've been in therapy since I was 9

>>40206885

Lol I eat way healthier than you, I've been a gym rat showering twice a day with. 6 part skincare routine, balancing my meals for macros, avoiding sodium, sugar microplastics seed oils processed foods and preservatives my whole adult life. I'm a female Patrick bateman, more then a match for you chuddy

Turns out being bullied relentlessly in your formative years for acting too feminine kind of fucks you up for life.

>>40206997
they should encourage you to embrace being a more feminine man
you don't have to be "normal"
there's just no need for chemical castration

>>40206981
nigga said "lol" like that was a valid argument. kys spook.

>>40206997
>Lol I eat way healthier than you
I'm not the one complaining about being stinky and fat.

>>40207043
gender dysphoria means nothing at all
it conveys no useful information

>>40207055
>retard with retard take that has no actual backing or sources

Unironically blow your head off and Livestream it. I've been itching for a new suicide gore video.

>>40207021

>"they should"

Why don't you become a therapist then if you think it's so easy to fix people.

Anyway I'm actually the minority of people who like went through medical doctors and therapists, and tried anti psychotics and many kinds of repressing to try to be a gay male. You don't want to learn about that or listen to me though i bet. The idea that I was urged to be a feminine gay male and already tried very hard to do that wouldn't be something you'd be able to integrate into this "pitch"

And beyond that, the way you lay out accepting being a feminine gay male really just shows me how much society has changed and how entrenched trans people have become as a semiotics category.

In the world I grew up in, there was no trans. The fact that i was a feminine gay male was something me and the people around me took for granted. Transition was a medical treatment considered as a last result after careful evaluation. The audience you're talking to is zoomers who are on DIY hormones, where it is assumed people around then will adopt their pronouns and affirm their identity. To someone older... a lot of this is just a non sequitur

>>40207050

You must be confusing me with someone else lol

>>40205816 (OP)
Healing the trauma cause by getting told I was male and believing it would be more helpful than conversion therapy I think.

>>40205816 (OP)
nature is healing, anon. its why the old cults are coming back.

>>40207393
trannyism is the old cult

>>40205816 (OP)
go back faggot this is our board

>>40208907
you don't own me

>>40205816 (OP)
Kys, gaslighter

>>40209239
the people telling you you need hrt to be happy are actually the ones gaslighting you
I am genuinely trying to help save you from yourself

>>40205816 (OP)
i dont think you get how dysphoria works but being male isnt wrong in itself. i just hated every second of it

>>40208872
yes

>>40209275
>let me tell you what feeling like a woman is like

> thing you didnt say

>>40205816 (OP)
fuck off, frogposter

>>40209599
gender dysphoria implies innate knowledge of female nature and behavior

>>40205816 (OP)
there's no trauma to heal aside from the trauma of growing up with dysphoria.

>>40209658
(aka internalized homophobia)

>>40205816 (OP)
Never thought it was wrong or harmful. It just wasn’t me or who I ever was. I love men including my dad, brother, and boyfriend. I had what would’ve been healthy male role models my whole life, I just never related like that.

>>40205964
>if you healed instead of coped
How is repressing gender dysphoria not immensely cope. Like it's cope in the same way religious people who go "yes im gay but im RIGHTEOUSLY CELIBATE" are copeing

>>40209648
no it does not actually.

>>40209671
wanting to be a woman doesn't mean you can become a woman
why would you have a desire for womanhood if you felt you couldn't act like a woman?

Testosterone feels bad. Tiddies go bounce. Aint that complicated.

>>40209694
idk vro, i dont call myself a woman (manmoder). i am just gender dysphoric and taking e helps me. the op is about “healing trauma about being male rather than taking hrt” but no amount of accepting myself as a man was able to come close the effectiveness that taking hrt had in regards to my mental health.

>>40209736
>i am just gender dysphoric
internalized misandry is not a medical condition

>>40207077
>>40207043
Wow, this is just like watching a girl post! Bridge moment inc for this one

>>40209741
im not misanderist tho

>>40209747
then you would be happy being male
you think you are doing something evil by having a penis that works

>>40209762
>> i am not a misanderist
> then you would be happy being a male
absolute dog shit never cook again. there is nothing evil about having a penis, i would just have preferred to have a vagina + uterus. why do you think im assigning a moral weight to these things? being a man is great if thats what you want. i dont want that though, masculinity feels like an ill fitting glove all of the time and it has only gotten worse the older i get. at least the hrt makes me hate my body less

>>40209664
this would mean that i would both have been conscious of my sexuality and discouraged from it by age 4

>>40209834
yes, that literally happens
its not conscious, its just an interaction
you are conscious of being different, I knew I was gay at age 5 by seeing boys naked and liking that, but I had no idea what the word gay was or meant

>>40210093
okay, but i was conscious of being different for different reasons more than that (which i wasn't aware of unconsciously until i was like 8 or consciously until i was 14 anyways)
your experience isn't my experience. we're different people