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Anonymous No.40207488 >>40208165 >>40215570 >>40217901 >>40222746 >>40223027 >>40225124 >>40229493 >>40229633 >>40233688 >>40236457 >>40245169 >>40257137 >>40265343 >>40272101 >>40288295 >>40288317 >>40291567 >>40293762 >>40299921 >>40309192
is HRTgen seriously dead rn?

Previous: >>40112990

• Help, advice, guidance on meds and dosages
• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

See following post for a pharmacy list.

Survey: https://1drv.ms/xs/s!AudRJceTA5C9c2G5lCV2Avq0kQ0
▶ Survey data: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AudRJceTA5C9cyIWo6_X14AvHyM
▶ HRTGen Data Analysis: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gRLLWnbpdzlIxe4r
▶ HRT Info Sheets: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gQnyM7wxZcBGWRzW
▶ Pill ID: https://www.drugs.com/imprints.php
▶ DrugBank: https://www.drugbank.com/
▶ Basic HRT: https://apps.carleton.edu/campus/gsc/assets/hormones_MTF.pdf
▶ HRT ranges: https://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
▶ Powers Method: https://powersfamilymedicine.com/s/Healthcare-of-the-Transgender-Patient-V60.pptx
▶ Endocrine Society Guidelines: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558
▶ Transline Guidelines (with bicalutamide): https://transline.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/360047702053/TransLine_HRT_Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
▶ WPATH SOC: https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc
▶ TransDIY: https://www.reddit.com/r/transDIY
▶ Blood tests (US): https://www.privatemdlabs.com/, https://www.labsmd.com/
▶ Blood tests (UK, Ireland): https://www.medichecks.com/
▶ Blood tests (Canada Only): https://bloodtestscanada.com/
▶ Blood tests (Sweden): https://werlabs.se/
▶ Blood tests by mail: https://www.letsgetchecked.com/ DIY capillary blood samples. Expensive.
▶ Lab test guide: https://www.healthcare.uiowa.edu
Anonymous No.40207537 >>40208052
god this board sure is shit today
Anonymous No.40208052 >>40208068 >>40253067 >>40311114
>>40207537
idk, diy orchi seems pretty cool 2 me
Anonymous No.40208068 >>40227196 >>40227231 >>40241728
>>40208052
ok that thread was pretty awesome

Just got the balls to order estradiol, wish me luck lads and lassies. Does anyone have experience making it into a cream? That seems like the most practical route of application for me.
Anonymous No.40208165 >>40215618 >>40255250
>>40207488 (OP)
How do I make it clear to law that I take both grey market estradiol made by some lass from france (oelabs) and shoot ritalin I have prescribed thus emit smell some puppers like? I will not give up anything
Anonymous No.40208191
doing my shot today :{ i got really good at it for a while but i'm getting anxious about it again
Anonymous No.40208244 >>40209826
How do you do your blood testing? All the private labs are pricey compared to the girl chemicals and I don't want to constantly have to mail shit
Anonymous No.40209550
bump
Anonymous No.40209826 >>40211877
>>40208244
i did mine by getting the stuff through quest and going in person to a lab. i think the total cost was around $150, but i guess it was worth to know that i had good levels
Anonymous No.40211838
what do the free needles that opengate is sending out look like?
Anonymous No.40211877 >>40212177
>>40209826
how often do you like to check up?
Anonymous No.40212177 >>40212209
>>40211877
i've only done it once and it was like 6 months in. honestly if not much changes i wouldn't mind doing it like once a year or something. my levels all looked pretty much perfect so if you see something is odd you might want to do it more often until you've got it right where you want
Anonymous No.40212209 >>40212529
>>40212177
How do you determine a dose and all that if you can't check your hormones regularly? I can only really homebrew dosages anyways and I am a bit paranoid.

Do any of those kits they sell for hormone testing work?
Anonymous No.40212529
>>40212209
i just used the recommended dose for suppression without needing to fine tune your dose, which with undecylate is something like 40mg/28 days or something. i've never used the kits
Anonymous No.40214402
bump
Anonymous No.40215570 >>40216128
>>40207488 (OP)
from chile here, does anyone know a reliable method to do mtf hrt without sucking at it, cause i seriously dont wanna do oral anymore, so i might just want to get injections, im currently trying to see what to do for like needles or anything else or ANY way possible that i can get injections reliably in here, if anyone knows plvease help me.
Anonymous No.40215618 >>40255250
>>40208165
>thus emit smell some puppers like?
o.o girlsmell?
Anonymous No.40215637 >>40316195
I'm having a lot of difficult finding a decent laser place by me.
They're all cagey with pricing or want to charge you thousands

I might break and buy a Braun Pro 5.
anyone use one?
Anonymous No.40216128
>>40215570
what do you want to know specifically, i did injectiions for 2 months both im and sq, sq sucks a lot less and didn't give me that much anxiety but ymmv
Anonymous No.40216423 >>40216570 >>40316195
I ordered some stuff from Open Gate a couple of days ago and the transaction was recognized but I haven't gotten a confirmation email yet. Could something be wrong or does it normally take a while for things to be confirmed?
Anonymous No.40216570 >>40216666
>>40216423
They say it should take under 7 days, and to email them if it takes over 14. It took them about 18 days for me, but that's when they were experiencing some issues with their email system and website.
Anonymous No.40216666
>>40216570
Thank you for assuaging my fears on this. I'm still well under the seven day mark.
Anonymous No.40217901 >>40223201
>>40207488 (OP)
hi im on 5mg een/7 days (0.1ml of 50mg/ml een in mct oil intramuscular every friday afternoon)

but that somehow gets me to a level of 600pg/ml for estradiol

am i doing something wrong or
Anonymous No.40218975
bump
Anonymous No.40219152 >>40220702
is a mental health improvement from hrt real? im getting feminization but my E level is low and i'm emotionally detached and dissociated pretty much 24/7 and also struggle to get enough sleep and concentrate
Anonymous No.40220702 >>40221125
>>40219152
yes. you're probably with both sex hormones low, and that happens
Anonymous No.40221125
>>40220702
thanks.
Anonymous No.40222746 >>40223027
>>40207488 (OP)
wheres the vendors post
Anonymous No.40223027 >>40320809
>>40207488 (OP)
>>40222746
https://diyhrt.market/ - general HRT marketplace directory
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/t-shipping.aspx- Has been popular in the US. Ships from Vanuatu to some countries.
▶euaibolitatgmaildotcom - Ships from EU to Worldwide.
https://unitedpharmacies-uk.md/(UK only) - Ships from HK.
https://unitedpharmacies.md/(US only) - Ships from HK.
https://alldaychemist.com/- Ships from India to some countries.
https://shape-shifter.webnode.page/- Ships from Turkey to Worldwide.
https://stayhealthynow.co/- Ships from Turkey to Worldwide
https://amazing4health.com/- Ships from Thailand to Worldwide.
https://favskinhouse.com/- Ships from Thailand to Worldwide.
https://goodstuffstore.net/- Ships from Thailand to Worldwide.
https://otc-online-store.com/- Ships from Russia to Worldwide.
https://www.weborderpharmacy.md/(US only) - Ships from India.
https://www.weborderpharmacy-uk.md/(UK only) - Ships from India
https://opengatelabs.com/ - Ships from US
Anonymous No.40223201
>>40217901
what day did you test
Anonymous No.40224745
bump
namefagger No.40225124
>>40207488 (OP)
bump. also hi if i haven't said that already
Anonymous No.40225140
this isn't technically HRT, but what happens if you restrict bloodflow to yourballs? I'm trying it out, i don't wanna kill them but can it reduce testosterone levels?
Anonymous No.40226073 >>40253309
how can i get pio or smth to help gain weight
Anonymous No.40226096
so does anyone know why opengate just doesnt stock bica anymore
Anonymous No.40227169 >>40253052
Thoughts on cycling prog v continuous dose. Ive been taking 100 mg rectal daily for a while. (Cant get 200 mg) A friend of mine stands firmly by cycling, but I'm not too sure. I had to come off completely this week for supply reasons, and have been feeling pretty cruddy and depressed.
Anonymous No.40227196 >>40227231
>>40208068
hey! i made DIY estrogen-gel at 16 and while my gel was good, its not the best route of HRT and I only used it for a month or two before switching to injections
Anonymous No.40227231 >>40230577
>>40208068
3 grams estradiol powder, mix it into 350 ml of isopropyl alcohol until fully dissolved, add 350 ml of isopropyl myristate and stir it until its completely clear and even. put these in droppers, put 10 droppers onto your armpits twice per day
>>40227196
my own e gel was a million times better for me than injections were, and a billion times better for me than pills were
Anonymous No.40227924
nightybump
Anonymous No.40229438
bump
Anonymous No.40229493 >>40229639 >>40253045 >>40262032
>>40207488 (OP)
am i losing a significant amount of T by fucking up my injections and how do i avoid it?
my mom used to help me with it because she's a nurse and knows how to do shots very well. i've been doing them for a few months now though and im kind of shit at it. i try my best but most if not basically every time a droplet of T comes back out when i pull out the needle. i've tried leaving the needle in longer before pulling it out, pulling it out slow and fast, injecting at different angles and in different places but it ALWAYS happens. i'm a little disappointed with the results of my T after being on it for 2 years and a few months and i wonder if it has anything to do with this. with wtf am i doing wrong?
Anonymous No.40229633
>>40207488 (OP)
How to diy a testosterone/estrogen blood test? I have no access to labs
Anonymous No.40229639
>>40229493
It seems like more is coming out than there really is.
Anonymous No.40230562 >>40231154 >>40253008
what does it mean if i get hot flashes a few days after doing my shot instead of just before it
Anonymous No.40230577 >>40230607
>>40227231
was that estradiol valerate or just straight estradiol?
Anonymous No.40230607 >>40230609
>>40230577
17 b estradiol powder. estradiol valerate is only for making injections afaik
Anonymous No.40230609
>>40230607
sounds good, ty
Anonymous No.40231154
>>40230562
bump
Anonymous No.40232161 >>40232299 >>40252974
im entering my 8th month of HRT and my endocrinologist (from our version of the NHS) wants me to take 2 pumps of oestrogels only and 50mg of ciproterone daily. lmao its really DIY or die out there
Anonymous No.40232299 >>40232330
>>40232161
>50mg cyproterone daily
he's trying to give you a brain tumor
Anonymous No.40232330 >>40237457
>>40232299
its a woman lol but in the past i went to a male endo who wanted me to take testosterone lmao
anyway ofc i know 50mg is an absurd dose, but i fear for the other trannies that go there and dont understand enough of hrt and all of that and just follow what those doctors says 2 pumps of oestrogel is a beginner dosage too. the standard is like, 4 to 5
Anonymous No.40233688 >>40252988
>>40207488 (OP)
is the discord still alive?
can someone link it for me pwease thank u very much
Anonymous No.40235712
bump
Anonymous No.40236457
>>40207488 (OP)
has anyone experienced delays ordering from the new EUaibolit site? i don't get it because they've always been quick in the past. sent payment two weeks ago and they confirmed they'd received it but it seems like they still haven't shipped my order.
Anonymous No.40237457 >>40239298 >>40239386
>>40232330
anon this is a dangerous dose, please consider taking less
Anonymous No.40239254
bb
Anonymous No.40239298
>>40237457
no i know about that lol thats what i was saying, i feel bad for the ones that dont know about that and just follow her
Anonymous No.40239386
>>40237457
she knows that. she's not taking as much as the endo prescribed. she's saying she's worried the endo's other patients who know less than she does will be endangered. no one can read anymore.
Anonymous No.40240609
bump
Anonymous No.40241663
night bump
Anonymous No.40241728 >>40243856
>>40208068
do you have a link to that thread? I am lazy
Anonymous No.40242993 >>40243475 >>40252960
stopped taking hrt for a month and now i don't feel like continuing, has anyone else felt like this?
Anonymous No.40243475
>>40242993
I got off HRT for a year and came back crawling. Seeing myself masculinize was traumatic
Anonymous No.40243856 >>40312171
>>40241728
Post >>40198800
Followup thread >>40203621
Anonymous No.40244905
im bumpin that thread
Anonymous No.40245145 >>40252653
Is dash pct discrete? Like is someone was to look at the packaging but not open it?
rexie !!k1IKR+wYEC/ No.40245169 >>40252583 >>40252631
>>40207488 (OP)
is it possible to microdose estrogen and if so what r the effects
Anonymous No.40247020 >>40247249 >>40252669
been on hrt like 3 months or something now is it normal my nipples kinda hurt(?) (not hurt just like idk noticeable) whenever i brush agaisnt them its kinda distracting
kiria !!Nfxx3kHaOiH No.40247249 >>40247382
>>40247020
yes they're starting to grow
Anonymous No.40247382 >>40252669
>>40247249
i had like got myself all worked up that i had got cancer or something lol i geuss thats fine then
Anonymous No.40249771 >>40252525
does anyone know about using prog spray vs suppositories? i kind of want to swap over to spray, but i don't know whether it provides good levels or not
Anonymous No.40252494
>>40251217
>>40251325
>>40251352
Anonymous No.40252502
>>40251463
>>40251625
>>40251744
Anonymous No.40252525 >>40252929 >>40252953
>>40249771
intranasal/recral >> sublingal/oral
Anonymous No.40252583 >>40257191
>>40245169
>possible
yes
>effects
why? at what dosage? for how long? at what age?
instead of asking dumb questions like this, ask your real question
>i don't want boobs
>i'm afraid of breast cancer
>i'm afraid my dick will get smaller
>i'm afraid i'll become infertile
>i do want full feminization i just don't want my parents to notice and [argument to moderation] [middle ground fallacy]
>i have internalized transphobia and am afraid to be trans and i think that microdosing will make me an HRT femboy or nonbinary and that will make me immune from the online vitriolic attacks against trans women
>i'm not ready to come out yet and i think microdosing is easier to hide
>i'm actually a cis man and don't want to go bald
like, what's your real question? ask away!
Anonymous No.40252631
>>40245169
https://transfemscience.org/articles/nonbinary-transfem-overview/
idk what you're trying to accomplish but this should answer your questions about microdosing, as well as other related regimens that are alrernatives to microdosing if that doesn't provide the outcome you desire
Anonymous No.40252653 >>40255564
>>40245145
use a P.O. box if someone is going through your mail. sue anyone who opens your mail or threaten to sue them via email or letter signed by a real lawyer
Anonymous No.40252669
>>40247020
no pain no gain
>>40247382
feel your boobies
Anonymous No.40252929 >>40252951
>>40252525
not sublingual, but rather transdermal. is transdermal < rectal?
Anonymous No.40252951 >>40253289
>>40252929
>Rectal progesterone suppositories generally have a higher bioavailability than transdermal progesterone sprays (or creams/gels)
ngl i wouldn't personally
transdermaltoddlers BTFO'd
Anonymous No.40252953 >>40253019
>>40252525
Whats wrong with sublingual? it just sounds like the best of injections without the needle in my uninformed opinion
Anonymous No.40252960
>>40242993
>don't feel like continuing
why? what do you feel? like stopping? indifferent? why? side effects? which ones? btw a months is nothing
Anonymous No.40252974
>>40232161
these """"""""""doctors"""""""""" should he shot in the head by a firing squad of unwashed dicks
Anonymous No.40252988
>>40233688
checked. https://discord.gg/GT8YTEAQ6X
maybe not der 'cord u were asking for, but someone in it might be able to DM it to you due to the significant overlap
Anonymous No.40253008 >>40255608
>>40230562
it might be the fluctuating levels. consider switching from valerate to cypionate or ethanate or dosing a smaller amount every 5–7 days instead of a larger amount every 7–10 days to reduce fluctuations in estrogen levels
Anonymous No.40253019
>>40252953
it's better than oral, but keep in mind i was talking about progesterone, not estradiol; progesterone is usually formulated in a way (gel caps) that makes it harder to use sublingually than estradiol (chalky tablets)
Anonymous No.40253045
>>40229493
post levels. post dosage. 1–5 drops is nothing, especially if they're red. it's probably only 1 drop of T and 1 drop of blood being wasted. hit the gym and eat more protein. take oral minoxidil for hair growth, b. cut and bulk like a body builder. it's like weight cycling but for men. never touch a pet while taking minoxidil. even a small amount can kill them
Anonymous No.40253052
>>40227169
try both and do whatever works better for you. there's basically no science on this as of yet so you're going to have to use yourself as a test subject and report back to this thread. cycle for 6 months and go steady for 6 months. always take it before bed when you do take it.
Anonymous No.40253067 >>40254394
>>40208052
if you can't save 3k then you shouldn't be trusted with sharp objects
Anonymous No.40253289 >>40253316
>>40252951
i guess it's probably not worth swapping over, but the spray form is quite a bit cheaper. oh well, guess i'll just deal with it. i'm thinking about switching to doing a 2 week on 2 week off cycle to not have to spend as much as well, though i don't know if there's any backing for doing it that way being worthwhile at all or if it's just making it worse for no reason
Anonymous No.40253309
>>40226073
>weight
just eat more. healthy fats include fish, olive oil, avocado, nuts, seeds, dark chocolate, and eggs.
>pio
Anonymous No.40253316
>>40253289
you can't use the spray nasally? the skin is thinner there so the bioavailability is much higher. same for your dick and balls btw.
Anonymous No.40253400
is sharing your account and routing number safe
at
https://aipctshop.com/checkout/
Anonymous No.40253772 >>40254385 >>40255579
https://www.meds.com.mx/shopping_cart.php
>The UNITED STATES and some other countries require a prescription on all medications sold from Mexico. They further require documentation in English and an invoice of all medicines sold for customs. For these countries, Medicina Mexico is now delivering your medicines to Dr. Isaac Reyes, MD (Ced. Federal 644884) (Ced. Estatal 1537-02/05) along with the required documentation including documentation on each medication sold in English is from Wolters Kluwer. Dr. Reyes upon receipt of your medication will issue a prescription and provide for shipping pursuant to your order. If for any reason, Dr. Reyes fails to issue a prescription for a specific medication, then you will receive a Credit on Account
credit to account isn't a refund. has anyone been able to get pioglitazone from this or any other provider? has anyone gotten any medication from this provider, especially recently?
Anonymous No.40254273
night bump
Anonymous No.40254385
>>40253772
ive used them alot but the most recent time was 6 months ago. ive never had to get a refund from them so i cant comment on that aspect. i dont know what their deal is with the weird walls of text they plaster over everything and send to you in every email but they are definitely legit. when they confirm your order and say they "will assign you a unique bitcoin address" it can take awhile for them to do so and ive had it take like two weeks once, having to perster them every couple days. but they are legit.
Anonymous No.40254394
>>40253067
where is this? im interested. thanks.
Anonymous No.40254545 >>40254652 >>40260906
where tf is a good website to get Cypro?? Every site i find has shipping too expensive to order just cypro and nothing else i want at a reasonable price
Anonymous No.40254652
>>40254545
don't get cypro. 0.5 mg dutasteride can block DHT while micronized prog 100–200 mg and/or high-dose estrogen can block T. what are your levels?
what's the lowest price you've found so far? are you buying in bulk? what country are you shipping it to (EU/US/UK/Mexico/India?)
Anonymous No.40255250
>>40215618
No. Literally dogs trained to find if you have fuel for bender
>>40208165
Shit got worse, because bitch gotta lie and people can't accept some things like being cis gay and taking e, being decent person, but only on stim bender etc.
Anonymous No.40255564
>>40252653
Thanks.
Anonymous No.40255579
>>40253772
I’ve gotten pio from them recently took about 25 days to get here through mex post. Picrel
Anonymous No.40255608 >>40255966
>>40253008
im on enanthate every 7 days
Anonymous No.40255966 >>40258638
>>40255608
dosage? levels?
Anonymous No.40256763
i leaked a bit of precum during sleep tonight. it wasnt much and it wasnt really cum, just the precum. is that a sign my T is not really supressed? i haven't jerked off for many months and i've been on hrt for almost a year now
dsbm&amp;cigarettes No.40257137 >>40257163
>>40207488 (OP)
I have a bit of a question for you guys. I take prescribed 2mg Progynova and 12.5mg Cyproterone daily. Yesterday my gf (she DIYs) injected me with 0.07ml (40mg/ml) estradiol enanthate (upon my request because I wanted to see what it felt like). She told me this was equivalent to 6mg of Progynova per day which is making me kind of scared. Did I fuck up taking that much or will it all be ok? Thanks
Anonymous No.40257163 >>40257180
>>40257137
no, you're fine. your blood levels might throw off the next test depending on how soon it is.
dsbm&amp;cigarettes No.40257180
>>40257163
About 12 days away, but thanks
rexie !!k1IKR+wYEC/ No.40257191 >>40258993 >>40260230
>>40252583
1. i dont want boobs
2. i don’t want my parents to notice
3. i want to be able to pass as cis and not be clocked as a tranny, even if it means being seen as male or female
4. not ready to come out yet so want to hide it
5. im going to have doctors being anal about it and i need to hide it from them
any way I can do all of these
Anonymous No.40258638 >>40259004
>>40255966
7.4mg weekly. cant afford to get tested and im too afraid to now
Anonymous No.40258993
>>40257191
why the fuck would doctors care
you absolute fucking coward
fuck you
Anonymous No.40259004 >>40260906 >>40265151
>>40258638
>and im too afraid to now
what? why?
Anonymous No.40260230
>>40257191
just be a bad posture slouch, wear clothes that make it hard to tell, and otherwise do manmoder things. i haven't gone to the regular doctor yet so idk if they're gonna be able to tell though, but i just figured it's better to just do it and deal with it when the time comes than to keep repping and be miserable forever
Rosewood !!rPy3ln1U62G No.40260469
how do i fix my transition
Anonymous No.40260906
How much does a high dose help? Hondosing prevents feminization, but if you're on an average dose already and are experiencing feminization, how much does upping your estrogen dose help? Does it make it go faster? Does it not do anything?
>>40254545
Last time I bought it, I got it from United Pharmacies, but it looks like they're now out of stock on all cypro, sorry.
>>40259004
Maybe they're afraid in the same way one is afraid to get tested for STIs or look at their bills or their report card.
Anonymous No.40262032
>>40229493
use the Z track method
are you guys just retarded nowadays??
Anonymous No.40262052 >>40263327
am i wasting prog by not putting it in my butt
Anonymous No.40263327
>>40262052
supposedly, yes
Anonymous No.40264093
does it make a difference if I switch up estrogen pill types 4mg is 4mg in the end no?
Anonymous No.40264216 >>40264253 >>40265343
i have a question: what are dosages for?
do you get sick or die if you just inject as much estrogen as you can into your body
if no then why do i need dosages, especially if i diy?
Anonymous No.40264253
>>40264216
Too little and it won't be effective, too much and you're wasting it because theres a limit. You can ultra dose E going insanely high but past a point it has mo extra effect and you're just wasting it
Anonymous No.40265063 >>40265092
is cypro with ethinyloestradiol safe to use as an aa?
kiria !!Nfxx3kHaOiH No.40265092 >>40265100
>>40265063
>ethinyloestradiol
thats not recommended for use. use bioidentical estradiol
Anonymous No.40265100 >>40265747 >>40266260
>>40265092
i meant in addition to estradiol.
Anonymous No.40265151 >>40266235
>>40259004
trump
Anonymous No.40265343
>>40264216
evidence suggests that too high of doses can negatively impact your development, particularly breasts, and can also induce pretty bad mood swings
>>40207488 (OP)
i feel retarded for even asking but is hemihydrate 117b? i always ignored oral because of the obvious reasons but my breast growth has stalled hard at 19mo and i wanna get as much as i can. should i consider domp?
Anonymous No.40265530 >>40265747 >>40275230
The sheet suggests you can take 25mg bicalutamide once every other day, I am going to get 50mg pills. Should I be taking these every other day? Is there downsides compared to daily use?
Anonymous No.40265551 >>40275168
Does it make you a failure if you can never manage to get the needle in. My fiance has to do it for me, I'm not afraid of the pain I just can't get past the mental block preventing me from shoving sharp metal into my stomach
kiria !!Nfxx3kHaOiH No.40265747 >>40265914
>>40265530
buy a pills cutter. they are very common and cheap. i would suggest cutting then into 4 pieces and taking it everyday. but you can also cut it into half and taking it every other day. DO NOT take more than 12.5mg daily
>>40265100
sorry i still dont get it. cipro + ethinyloestradiol is diane35 right? you shouldnt really take it bc of the ethinyloestradiol and its health issues it can give you. try to look for pure cyproterone acethate. if not posible, go for spiro or bica
Anonymous No.40265914 >>40266056
>>40265747
>DO NOT take more than 12.5mg daily
What's the danger? Most sources seem to suggest 50mg daily is adequate
kiria !!Nfxx3kHaOiH No.40266056 >>40266070
>>40265914
doses above 12.5mg (desu i think its 10mg but its easier to cut into 12.5mg than 10mg) wont get you better testosterone supression and will only increase the risk of meningioma (benign brain tumor)
theres two articles about it here:https://transfemscience.org/articles/#antiandrogens
Anonymous No.40266070 >>40266088
>>40266056
>clicks the article about bicalutamide
>A typical bicalutamide dosage of 50 mg/day is being used and recommended
kiria !!Nfxx3kHaOiH No.40266088
>>40266070
omg i misread it. i thought it was cyproterone LMAO sorry
bicalutamide 50mg is totally fine sorry sorry its 01:34am im sleepy sorry......
Anonymous No.40266235
>>40265151
i take mine while you faggots stay stuck what you given. don't make me send you pictures of my tits just go remind you my love. that i
Anonymous No.40266252 >>40275152
how legit of an option is the opengatelabs sublingual dropper
claims 2mg per 4 drops, and 300mg total per bottle. ive never seen or heard of such a product.
Anonymous No.40266260 >>40266269
>>40265100
it's basically just estrogen but worse (with respect to blood clots). if your gonna use EE as a AA, why not just use more E2 instead? it's called monotherapy
Anonymous No.40266269 >>40266569
>>40266260
There are products with Cypro+EE. I am referring to these.
Anonymous No.40266569 >>40267732
>>40266269
unless it's super cheap, i don't see the point. cypro has worse side effects than other AAs and EE has worse side effects than other Es. just do E2, duta, and prog or something
Anonymous No.40267732
>>40266569
nta but isnt cypro more powerful of an aa?
Anonymous No.40269529
bump
Anonymous No.40271740
bomp
namefagger No.40272101
>>40207488 (OP)
boomp
Anonymous No.40273130 >>40273183 >>40275106
can you use injectable T to make a topical T solution at home?
Anonymous No.40273183 >>40273422
>>40273130
this would be for futamaxxing, to be clear, i do not want to masculinise any other part of me
Anonymous No.40273422 >>40273441
>>40273183
just masturbate every once in awhile
t. 7.2 inches no length loss 22mo hrt
Anonymous No.40273441
>>40273422
it's too late for that so no
Anonymous No.40275015
please respond
Anonymous No.40275106 >>40275645
>>40273130
t gel is made from micronized t, not a t ester like injections are. instead of using t, which is poison, just pop viagara or cialis and jack off a lot
Anonymous No.40275152
>>40266252
sublingual drops is not unheard of. see:
https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/estriol-2-mg-and-estradiol-05-mg-per-01-ml-sublingual-drops
opengate labs also seems legitimate but based on testing the concentration could be just slightly lower than advertised. see:
https://diyhrt.market/stores/open-gate-labs
because that specific product is homebrewed and not tested, you'd be taking a greater risk but i would guess it's a legitimate product
Anonymous No.40275168
>>40265551
it doesn't have to be your stomach. try thigh
Anonymous No.40275230
>>40265530
bicalutamide can cause liver damage. use doses as low as 12.5 mg daily if your T is already low anyway. taking 50 mg daily only makes sense if you have high T or prostate cancer and your liver is healthy
Anonymous No.40275645
>>40275106
thanks, i'll find a source for micronised T then
Anonymous No.40277302
BUMP night bump
Anonymous No.40278324 >>40282053
how long do i have to abstain from jackin off on hrt before my dick dies?
Anonymous No.40280055
bumo
Anonymous No.40281658
bumo
Anonymous No.40282053 >>40282077
>>40278324
some people do it daily and still shrink, some people rarely do it and shrink.
going as long as possible helps
Anonymous No.40282077
>>40282053
alternatively unironically if you can orgasm without/with little erection as possible its fine. its the erections that keep function not masturbating
Anonymous No.40282650 >>40282936
Will higher dose of estradiol compensate for dropping dutasteride? Also how bad is endocrine wise smokeless tobacco in terms of hrt?
Anonymous No.40282936
>>40282650
increasing estradiol wont block dht, you dont need dut unless ur actually losing hair
if you do oral dont do nicotine, it inhibits liver enzymes. any other route (including sublingual) bypasses the liver so it doesnt matter
Anonymous No.40284141
Is there any validity to the e1:e2 ratio stuff? Do you even need e1 at all?
Anonymous No.40285901
bump
Anonymous No.40287146
bump2
Anonymous No.40287697
what about a bump3
Anonymous No.40288125
if bump3 is so good, wheres bump3 2
Anonymous No.40288295
>>40207488 (OP)
i have been having an issue recently where a lot of completely clear liquid comes out only during orgasm, it isn't pre cum. it has verticality to it like my pre hrt orgasms did and its making me go schizo from dysphoria
i switched from 6mg/day E and 12.5mg/every other day of cypro (used to take it every day for years before switching to EOD for 2.5 months), to 6mg/day E gel and 200mg/day prog.
i figured it was the prog causing my liquid issue (it was causing me an unstable mood too), and stopped it. no fire, and so i got labs done.
E was in the 200-300 pg/ml range, and T was below 50 ng/dl.
wtf is going on?? i used to have very little to nothing come out, and now it's like my pre hrt orgasms except less volume and it's completely clear. my labs look fine and im feminizing a lot for the first time in over a year, so that isn't the issue. my pelvic area does feel more tight than usual
Anonymous No.40288317 >>40290832
>>40207488 (OP)
why does a lot of completely clear fluid come out when i orgasm now? it isnt pre cum, its only when i orgasm. i used to have little to nothing come out before, but have the most by far since i started hrt.
my labs are good (T under 50, E over 200) and im feminizing lots for the first time in over a year (coinciding with this orgasm change as well), but this problem is making me go schizo
Anonymous No.40288348 >>40290832 >>40299516
My fellow legbutts I think I may have screwed up BADLY. Not just a little, like REAL bad.
I'm having involuntary spasms, acne and crazy hair growth ALL over my body. The hair is getting thicker and growing out of control. I used dexamethasone 2.5mg for a few months last year and stopped at the beginning of this year. I don't know if stopping caused this, but nothing seems to work. I've been told that I may have collapsed my adrenal axis and that I should use hydrocortisone, but I used that for two weeks (20mg) and it didn't make any difference. Please, I need detailed explanations and medication to make this stop. I can't take it anymore.
I can't go to the doctor and let my parents find out but I also don't want to die.

What i'm on at the moment: EEn 12mg every 14 days, 50mg bicalutamide and 20mg hydrocortisone
Anonymous No.40290273
bomp
Anonymous No.40290832
>>40288317
Sounds like it's just prostate fluid. If your levels are good I wouldn't worry too much about it. I used to have a lot but it's pretty low right now and my t was 12 on my last check.
>>40288348
Uhh I'm not sure if anyone here could tell you exactly what's happening, and idk if you can get levels checked, but maybe my recommendation would be to try to do mono instead of taking bica. My unfounded hypothesis is that maybe your free t is high enough that the bica isn't stopping it. Perhaps if you take a mono dose and stop bica it'll settle down and downregulate after a month at most? If it hasn't changed by then maybe you're screwed and need a doctor.
Anonymous No.40291567
>>40207488 (OP)
why is EV recommended at 5mg/5 days or 9mg/7 days, that seems really high
Anonymous No.40292293
bymp
Anonymous No.40293762
>>40207488 (OP)
Bump
Anonymous No.40294981
anyone remembers oelabs' recipe for EV? how much benzyl benzoate was there?
Anonymous No.40296661
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Anonymous No.40298104 >>40298211 >>40299491
I'm on cypro now, but I've been on it for years and in addition to the obvious risks of using cypro for years I've been having unpleasant mental fog. So I have a couple of questions
1. Since t is completely dead on the lowest dose of cypro I'm able to take, can I just switch to bica without worrying about my levels shifting?
2. Can I realistically talk a non specialist endo in the us into giving me bica?
3. E gel looks much more tedious than sublingual. Are there actual benefits to it? Is breast application to get breast growth honscience?
Anonymous No.40298211
>>40298104
>1
T will likely go up but not as much if you continue E. Your T increasing isn't a concern with bica and if expected. If your E stays the same it's all good
>2
You'd have to look hard
>3
I believe gel(and patches) are more consistent levels. Localized gel is mostly honscience
Anonymous No.40299491 >>40306544
>>40298104
why can't you just get a fucking orchiectomy? what the fuck is wrong with you people just taking antiandrogens for years on autopilot?
Anonymous No.40299516
>>40288348
>dexamethasone 2.5mg
this is an absurd dose, should've used just 0.5 mg
what's the source of estrogen? did you change it? are you sure nobody poisons you with roids somehow?
Anonymous No.40299921
>>40207488 (OP)
How long do prog suppositories take to dissolve in your ass?
Anonymous No.40301248
bump
Anonymous No.40303068
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namefagger No.40303069 >>40303085
bump
namefagger No.40303085
>>40303069
dangit we need a new hrtgen
who's gonna make it?
Anonymous No.40304192
is there a chart like this for ftms?
Anonymous No.40304477
bump
Anonymous No.40304766 >>40306544
i might run out of spiro before my bica order ships
is sublingual monotherapy viable? currently doing 4mg(split in 2 doses) + 200mg spiro (split into three doses) and wondering if i can just do 6mg split into 3 doses with no aa until my bica gets here
Anonymous No.40305147 >>40311143 >>40312678
I've been on estrogen mono injections for a month and I can barely get hard. Could reducing my dose help? I don't wanna go off e completely.

I know about cialis but it'll take awhile for my pills to arrive in the mail.
Anonymous No.40305163 >>40305202
just new to this, i'm doing .1 ml monotherapy for estrogen valerate like astrolabs suggests. is that too low or is that a good dose?
Anonymous No.40305183
I think I will go down the informed consent route since I want blockers. If they hondose me on estrogen is it a good idea to supplement with DIY estrogen, but keep taking the testosterone blockers from doctor?
Anonymous No.40305202 >>40305636
>>40305163
it depends on the concentration
4mg .1 ml is pretty normal yeah
you could do a 8mg (.2ml) loading dose and then follow up with 4mg (.1ml) every week after that.
Anonymous No.40305636
>>40305202
Ty
Anonymous No.40306544
>>40299491
nta but i wanna keep my balls
>>40304766
i am this anon and my bica is shipping now awesome
Anonymous No.40306634 >>40311073
My prolactin is at 66ng/dl and I'm on CPA. Is it time to switch anti androgens? Or is that number not that bad since CPA (12,5mg/24hours)does increase prolactin? I don't know what to do. Please give me guidance.

Also, if I do switch the bica, how does it work? I'm going to have high androgens but they're not going to do anything so I don't have to worry about LH and FSH and I just take estrogen? Is it that simple? I'm worried about its effectiveness when it comes to blocking DHT.

Fuck I hate this shit someone please give me some guidance please.
Anonymous No.40308081
How do I know what websites are safe to buy from? So many feel so shady
Anonymous No.40308202
My levels have been 117 pg/mL E and 18 ng/dL T as of 8 months ago. I'm on monotherapy using patches.
Is this ok? Do I need to try to increase my estrogen level? Should I get another blood test done soon?
What's very very strange is that in September, my estrogen level was higher, at 127 pg/mL, but my testosterone was at 64 ng/dL. I'm very scared my testosterone is not actually being suppressed as was once thought. However, I don't produce sperm at all, so I know it very likely is.
Anonymous No.40309192
>>40207488 (OP)
Bumpuuu
Anonymous No.40310398 >>40311060
How important is it to take anti androgens when I start estrogen? If so, is it worth just doing regular dose of estrogen (starting from 2mg then working my way up to 6mg) along with a smaller dose or Cypro? Or would I need a full dose of cypro?
Anonymous No.40311060 >>40311082
>>40310398
pills won't give you enough levels to suppress testosterone on its own, so you take antiandrogens
start with 12.5mg cypro daily and then in the future you can take it every two or three days and your testosterone will still be low (that was true for me and a lot of trannies, but ofc take blood tests to make sure)
Anonymous No.40311073 >>40312086
>>40306634
acceptable, pregnant women can have much more prolactin and it's on cypro doses that simulate pregnancy-like exposure to progesterone
depends how many androgens you have on bicalutamide. if it's like 200 ng/dL, 50 mg will deal with them.
don't delay orchiectomy. if you're not going to have an orchiectomy, shift to high dose estrogen alone.
Anonymous No.40311082
>>40311060
Thanks a lot. I better make some more money then lol.
Anonymous No.40311114 >>40312171
>>40208052
where is the guide????
Anonymous No.40311143 >>40311938
>>40305147
Help!!!
Anonymous No.40311818 >>40311835
i wanna try estrogen
where can i get some?
Anonymous No.40311835 >>40313526 >>40315011
>>40311818
You don’t try it. You take it forever.
Anonymous No.40311938
>>40311143
(i was gonna talk about tadalafil but then i looked up and its what cialis means in the US lol)
desu i only about that. you could try reducing your dose for a while, but like, you could also start to get other testosterone effects than just more erections?
Anonymous No.40312086 >>40312104
>>40311073
I live in brazil, getting an orchiectomy is very difficult and full of red tape
When should I start worrying about prolactin? When it's over 100?
kiria !!Nfxx3kHaOiH No.40312104 >>40312998
>>40312086
eu tenho quase certeza que voce pode fazer uma orchi pelo SUS. SRS eu sei que pode mas orchi eu acho que também, acho que só precisa de laudo de psicologo deles e tal, vale dar uma olhada
Anonymous No.40312171
>>40311114
No guide, just a thread or two >>40243856

I did look through my bookmarks for this though: https://mesityl.substack.com/p/orchiectomy and https://mesityl.substack.com/p/orchiectomy-part-2
I still don't recommend it since it's kinda dangerous
Anonymous No.40312678
>>40305147
>Could reducing my dose help?
no
you have to use it frequently. i'm on high dose E + bicalutamide + dutasteride and have no erectile dysfunction if i use it daily. if i wait a week, erections become painful, but using it again fixes the problem.
just be sincere about having autoandrophilia, there's no reason for sabotaging hrt other than that.
Anonymous No.40312991 >>40316128 >>40320339 >>40321362
Is it possible to get to a point while on e where I no longer feel the need to masterbate? I always end up giving in after a week but I’m not on hrt.
Anonymous No.40312998
>>40312104
Qualquer cirurgia que envolva o órgão reprodutor no Brasil é uma burocracia do caralho
Tem várias mulheres aí com endometriose grave que não tem qualidade de vida nenhuma e tem que remover útero e não conseguem
Anonymous No.40313526 >>40314679 >>40321362
>>40311835
sure but i'm not actually trans. i'm curious how it feels.
Anonymous No.40314679
>>40313526
> i’m curious how it feels.
Oh ok.

Well it depends if you want boobs just because playing with them seems fun or if you want boobs because it’s how you feel your chest should look.
Anonymous No.40315011
>>40311835
many people try it then detrans
Anonymous No.40316128 >>40317316
>>40312991
i havent done that since starting hrt 8 months ago
Anonymous No.40316195
>>40215637
Check on groupon. I found a fairly good deal for a local place on there. It was $300 for 3 sessions of chin, upper lip, and sideburn removal.

>>40216423
For sure email them if its been >7 days. In my experience they have had trouble initially keeping track of orders, but as soon as i shot an email they cleared it up perfectly.
Anonymous No.40317316 >>40317339
>>40316128
Thanks for the info.
Anonymous No.40317339
>>40317316
LMAO sorry i misread i thought you were on hrt
yeah your libido will go down in the first month already. its literally the first thing hrt does.
Anonymous No.40318717
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Anonymous No.40320305 >>40320315 >>40321221
hi team i'm 4 years hrt 91kg 5'10 and my boobs are so cone shaped :( what can i do about this?
im on 12.5mg cypro twice a week and i take 8mg oral estridol a day (2 pills in the morning and 2 at night)
Anonymous No.40320315
>>40320305
im 23!! forgor to add
xx !h1/6Snsmqc No.40320326 >>40320809
okat cool but where do i actually *purchase* this stuff
Anonymous No.40320339
>>40312991
i got to this point b4 magic wand purchase
Anonymous No.40320809
>>40320326
this gen's second post is lower down then it should be >>40223027 it has some links that should help
Canadian Margot Robbie No.40321221
>>40320305
Prog
Anonymous No.40321362
>>40313526
being 100% honest theres not really a "feeling" if you're thinking along the lines of typical narcotics

>>40312991
for me it took years but yes