If you had FFS right now, would you become a passoid?

whats in the way of you being a passoid right now?

Im growing out my big manly beard for electrolysis rn so that hurts for passing.
I think im 80% passing or so without ffs but i want full marks so im getting it

>>40211255 (OP)
Well I have it in 3 months so I’ll let you know. I pass pretty well for the most part I don’t get misgendered on the phone or in public, but my face is still kinda clocky and gives me dysphoria

>>40211296
damn, i wish that was me, good luck tho
and same, like i do kinda pass when i put effort into doing my hair and all that, but it's not perfect and i still wanna get rid of my moid features

if u can get it then by all means u should, i think its essential for one's transition

>>40211333
ty, im looking forward to it and hope you get it soon too. all that’s left surgery wise after FFS is SRS which I have lined up too. i think if not for my body, voice, and general aura id be clocked more often. i rarely get clocked anymore even without makeup and im sure after FFS i will be even less chicly

already a passoid but im still a loser and old

>>40211255 (OP)
no way
>overall shape and length/size of skull and face
>permanent moid v-shaped abdomen
>hank hill hips
>demeanor
>hair loss
>stature
>voice

>>40211255 (OP)
>50k for that

>>40211255 (OP)
money

>>40211255 (OP)
yes, i think that type 3 forehead + some fillers could be actually enough for my face to be cispassing, unless you count my voice, right now im at this stage when ppl are like "ma'am" and then "sorry, sir" right when they hear my voice. im working on it tho a im making progress...

>>40211255 (OP)
>If you had FFS right now, would you become a passoid?
No. Not even close
>whats in the way of you being a passoid right now?
Actually unfixable face, broad shoulders, ugly body, over 170cm, ugly AGP curls, disgusting personality, male hobbies (like programming and video games), the list goes on

>>40212301
AGP curls... you know women have curly hair too but some (like me) iron it everyday? lol. put in a little effort. sorry about the rest tho. thats kinda joever.

>>40212646
i don't feel motivated enough to put in any effort knowing that it won't fix anything. Also curly hair is a sign of high testosterone, so it's doubly over.

I had FFS and I'm still a boymoder.

>>40212646
>women have curly hair too but some (like me) iron it everyday
frizzy bitch lmao

>>40212740
i hate it when passoids post their selfies and then say "oh no I look horrible now give me affirming replies". If you can post your photo online you already pass better than most.

>>40211674
while i do think FT are overpriced, a well-done type 3 forehead reconstruction is worth its weight in gold and they seem to be good at it. like for me it's the thing that takes someone from androgynous to female in a lot of cases. a lot of the discount surgeons either don't do type 3 or have mixed results in this department which is unfortunately a pretty crucial one.

>>40212819
Looking better than most sadly does not a passoid make
FFS tends to make trannies attractive elf androgynous creatures, not passoids.

>>40212819
I literally don't pass idk what to tell you

>>40213025
you literally look like a woman. be thankful for what you have and thank god you were born in a body which can be fixed, even if through surgery

>>40212740
cute. :) i do kinda get why you feel you don't pass (i think the combination of small eyes and somewhat wider nose makes you androgynous) but i feel like you could honestly read female to most normies if you did the right makeup and changed your hair a bit. then again idk what the rest of you looks like. either way you're definitely cute though.

>>40213069
I'm 6'0" so passing is out of the question for me

>>40213310
doesn't mean anything lol i know several passoids who are 6ft or taller. if you're tall *and* broad that's another thing but tall and skinny with feminine proportions is literal modelmoding, will make a lot of cis girls jealous.

>>40212740
Can't they just go in a shave off a bit more? Maybe it's a "measure once cut twice" situation

>>40213310
one of the most famous passoids, alex consani, is 6'0

>>40211255 (OP)
Maybe not in general, because I haven't been on HRT that long, and my skeleton is terrible, but my face could maybe pass. My problem is how square and sloped my forehead is and how strong my brow bone is. Could never girlmode without bangs. Would probably need work on my nose to balance out the work on the brow.
My forehead looks kind of like the before picture, but smaller, whereas my face is slightly rounder and my chin is smaller. I've also been told on here that my eyes are feminine but I don't know what that should mean and I don't see it.

>>40213388
I can conclude she's not a passoid based on that one pic alone.
>>40212740
Your face looks like a woman's, you idiot.

>>40211255 (OP)
im a passoid just a really ugly one

>>40211255 (OP)
Yes
>whats in the way of you being a passoid right now?
Midface
Crooked nose
Chin
Browbone

Just fuck my shit up I will never afford FFS

>>40211255 (OP)
no, ive already had ffs and am 6 yrs hrt after starting at 14 i think im just cooked

>>40213415
are you saying alex consani doesn't pass but I do? lol. lmao even.

>>40213475
wtf? started HRT at 14 and with FFS and still not passing? show face to prove ur not BDD passoid or something

>>40213464
I wish you could take out some low-interest loan that you pay off for the next 10 years for FFS at least, like a house or a car. Male puberty is so fucking destructive.

>>40213483
>are you saying alex consani doesn't pass but I do? lol. lmao even.
I hadn't even heard of Alex Consani until now. From that picture and looking up other pictures of her, I don't think she passes.
>but I do?
Being ugly doesn't mean you don't pass. Being pretty doesn't mean you pass. She gives off an ethereal twinkhon vibe.

>>40211255 (OP)
YES PLEASE
i just need a rhinoplasty and a jaw shaving please just that the rest is fine ;____;

>>40213484
im not fucking posting my nasty ass face to 4chin. i just got hit by puberty like it was a truck by the time i started, only true youngshits are those that start before puberty

>>40213525
so i'm ugly and i don't pass

>>40213546
If you're the same poster, you just said you pass. Now you're saying you don't pass.
I don't know whether you actually pass.
I just inferred from your disbelief that I thought she didn't pass, while you apparently do pass, even though she's presumably prettier than you, was ridiculous because she's prettier than you.
I disagree, because being pretty doesn't mean you pass better.

>>40213565
i'm the post-ffs boymoder. I don't pass but you said I'm ugly on top of that which is depressing. I don't even have ethereal twinkhon swag I guess.

>>40213565
>I just inferred from your disbelief that I thought she didn't pass, while you apparently do pass, even though she's presumably prettier than you, was that you thought it was ridiculous because she's prettier than you.
Just realized I wrote a sentence that doesn't make grammatical sense lol. That's what it should be. Incompetent at my own native language!

>>40213594
>I don't pass but you said I'm ugly on top of that which is depressing
I don't know what you look like. How could I even know if you're ugly? I was just speaking generally.

>>40213620
i posted my pic above so i thought you were insulting me

>>40211255 (OP)
Is pic supposed to be rel?

>>40211255 (OP)
> whats in the way of you being a passoid right now?
- slight beardshadow -> laser + electrolysis
- honjaw + (cleft) -chin -> lefort
- slightly large browbone -> type 3 forehead
- slightly long philtrum -> lip lift
- small adams apple -> trach shave
- hooded eyes maybe, idk tho if that's a passing thing -> blepharoplasty
- hair needs to grow out another six months at least
- body wise: ribcage (kms) & hips (maybe not kms yet, but growth plates are closed so pio and workouts are my only hope)

>>40213642
You're >>40212740? You definitely pass lol, I'd argue better than Alex does.

>>40213658
(samefag)
And you're also cute, not ugly

lol where would they even start?

>>40213675
lip lift, hair transplant & clavicle reduction. in that order of importance.
not over for you.

>>40211255 (OP)
yes, time mostly i think