It's always either a cis guy who fetishizes you, a girl who sees you as a girl, or them thinking you're a girl at first meeting and then becoming disgusted after finding out. It's so draining because I want someone to give my love to. And at this point it's hard to find a t4t relationship because I haven't met many other trans people.... WHY CANT I JUST HAVE A CUTE GF OR BF

>>40213156 (OP)
>CUTE GF OR BF
sry but i'm not cute

what do you look like OP, are you cute

>>40213156 (OP)
Can't relate. Started T, dumped my ex, was on the dating market less than a week before I met my wife. Good luck tho

>>40213185
Omg that sounds magical!! I'm so happy for you I hope I get that too>>40213165

>>40213156 (OP)
Fetishize them back then. Treat the guys who fetishize you like they're slutty sex objects.

>>40213238
op hes humblebragging. "cant relate" is a phrase used when someone thinks theyre so much better compared to u to relate to ur experiences

>>40213303
>like they're slutty sex objects.
Giwtwm

>>40213156 (OP)
this is so relatable!! the one time I liked a cis guy was HORRIBLE,, I want so bad a t4t relatioinship T_T

>>40213156 (OP)
>them thinking you're a girl at first meeting and then becoming disgusted after finding out.
Do you look like indigo white or what's going on here?

Dating gets easier the longer youre on T

>>40213156 (OP)
i literally am fine with ftms i just wish you guys wouldn't make yourselves look ugly on purpose. just be a pretty man

>>40213156 (OP)
LIDDLE POONER!!!!!!! i will give you a shot if you wear the cute pooner flag

>>40213156 (OP)
i am a post op mtf who is looking for a ftm bf. i'd prefer if you had a neocock but either way is good
would you date me?

>>40213156 (OP)
this is why gayden t4t is the way to go buddy

>>40213156 (OP)
>or them thinking you're a girl at first meeting
Easy, stop poondosing, man up, stop being just a quirked up woman.
You're the source of your own suffering.

As a guy I just don't understand why you'd transition ftm. Like I have no shade to those who transition, I've got a buddy from the military who is mtf, but like holy shit ftm is a rough sell.

Guys don't necessarily have things "worse", but sneak a peek at how dudes are doing right now societally. It's bad for a lotta reasons, and you're dumpster diving in em without practice. My question isn't moral it's just like, are you really fucking sure?

>>40215683
its not a choice
if it were we wouldn't choose it

>>40215699
Hey, I can appreciate that from where you're sitting that might be true.

I've gotta take meds for my arms not to shake, but when they started making me black out randomly I had to tell my doc and find an alternative medication. If I were locked into passing out once every few days randomly my life would be way scarier and I wouldn't be able to drive. I wouldn't take that deal, fuck that. But I could change my medications, and I'm worried that people transition ftm and don't realize some of the shit that can entail that you just don't know about ahead of time.

>>40213156 (OP)
https://discord.gg/BGGdRASS
come home little man

>>40215683
Gender dysphoria exists, people don't just transition to escape gender roles

>>40215798
I get that, I recognize that shit is real. I guess my only experience of being a "man" are a bunch of military dudes who are depressed as fuck and I just can't get why anyone would want in on that.

My hope is that you and anyone who does transition finds happiness, but when you do lemme know where it is cause it's not been nice for me

>>40215745
>I'm worried that people transition ftm and don't realize some of the shit that can entail that you just don't know about ahead of time.
if you transition medically it is most likely you will be made forcefully perfectly aware of every possible complication. endos repeat it when you go for a consult, they repeat it when they prescribe it to you, they repeat it every time you go back for a checkup or to change your dose. every single time i've visited my endo after being prescribed hrt i've been given a form with a checklist of every negative symptom of T to check off if i'm experiencing. it even includes positive/neutral symptoms like body hair growth and weight gain. i understand your concern but that just isn't really what transitioning is like

>>40216007
It was a poorly thought out metaphor to draw attention to what I worried was an under-appreciation of what being a man would be like rather than a direct comparison of my medications to HRT

I can see I've been a bit of a downer and derailed the thread which wasn't my intent. Wish all here the best and I'll stop bugging you guys.

>>40213156 (OP)
sadly in society if you don't uphold strick gender roles and appearance then people will always see you as a woman or womanly. this even extends to a lot of lgbt communities. you could either commit to going stealth and fully masculinize yourself or find another trans person/find a maximalist queer community to assimilate into that will assure your doodness.

>>40213937
nta but there are seemingly no trans people in my area. i live in the suburbs and not a city proper and it sucks as a t4t biden lol

>trannies b like i'm a tranny and i will be a woman
>becomes a hyperfeminine bimbo who seeks attention on instagram
>poons b like i'm a poon and will get a haircut and nothing else
>why do they think i'm just a woman????
Get on proper T, stop dressing and behaving like a woman, grow up and man up. Then they'll stop thinking of you as a woman.

>>40213303
Based. Just need one who's AGP/forcefem too to really degen it up.

>>40218399
What fantasies do you have?

>>40218409
Just the regular ones a cishet* straggot has, which is why I'm steering clear of trans dudes, since I'd be the worst kind of chaser.

>>40218417
Damn i thought you were a trans dude

>>40213156 (OP)
my bi bpdemon ex gf hurt me so bad i detransitioned and started seeing a cishet man. dickless manlets will never find love, unfortunately.

>>40213156 (OP)
Felt. I have no chance with women and men aren't interested in me if I'm masculine so I'm going back off T and tomboy/ftfemboymoding.
>>40213420
Not if you're 5'3 and below average.

>>40219007
wtf are you really ruining your transition results over not getting laid

>>40219022
My transition results are looking like a scrawny 13 year old with impossibly wide hips and uncanny sperg stare. I have the body of an anime loli and the face of an angry prepubescent boy. I believe it was over before it even started anon.

>>40219022
Also I'm too horny to be alive

>>40219071
just jack off

>>40219075
Have you ever had sex? It's not remotely comparable

>>40219082
It's better than sex sometimes.

>>40219082
you just don't have the magic touch

>>40219095
>>40219101
I get off on making others feel good so masturbation does nothing for me.

>>40213156 (OP)
>cant have t4t cause haven't met many other trans people
Felt. Im in bumfuck nowhere Oklahoma, I might as well pan for gold trying to find an ftmbf here

>>40219119
mentally cucked, I guess it's a good thing you're not going to keep transitioning

>>40219119
Fair enough. I'm into that too, I just fantasize about making people feel good when I masturbate. But yeah you can't beat real human connection for that sort of attraction.

Still, it's probably better than bad sex. Or at least has less headaches associated with it.

>>40219007
>>40213156 (OP)
I'm a cis guy and I have no sexual experience with trans men, but I think short guys that are a little bottom heavy are ideal, so I'd be down if I was single.

That said, I've noticed that it seems like a lot of FtMs get absolutely blasted with huge amounts of testosterone, like the dose must be really high. I don't know if that's intentional, but it's unattractive and makes them look old and unnatural.

>>40219140
>Being service top is cucked

>>40213156 (OP)
Have you tried transitioning?

>>40219007
>>40219022
>Detransitioning to get laid
Based, I’m basically not transitioning because I know I won’t get sex if I do. It’s hard enough as it is I’m not making my optics worse. If you’re knows I could pass it would be a different story.

>>40213156 (OP)
>It's always either a cis guy who fetishizes you
Hot
>a girl who sees you as a girl
Hot

>>40219128
What do you identify as anon? I’m in Oklahoma.

>>40219147
>FtMs get absolutely blasted with huge amounts of testosterone, like the dose must be really high. I don't know if that's intentional, but it's unattractive and makes them look old and unnatural.
Agreed

>>40215851
>my only experience of being a "man" are a bunch of military dudes who are depressed as fuck
Dont transition into an american, got it

>>40213156 (OP)
If this happens to you it has to mean you act like a woman

>>40219147
Maybe T fluctuates in males but more consistent in ftm dosages

>>40219007
>Not if you're 5'3 and below average.
I wrote that post and yes I am 5'3. Being "below average" is easy to fix, if you try.

>>40219007
5”3 its so over just rep
also from your post you sound like a whore so I think you might just be cock starved, I’m sure if you become someone’s wife you’ll forget all about this

>>40219147
Do they? I swear whenever I go on reddit every poon has a starting dosage of like 20mg or something

>>40221725
If theyre cock starved pooning out is the best thing they could do. Especially at 5'3...

>>40221773
“pooning out” in the sense that they put their gender as male on dating apps despite looking like a woman so guys know they’re an easy lay not taking hormones that makes ugly, hairy and gain weight

>>40213156 (OP)
i dated an FtM for a while and i loved him very much but he left me :(

>>40220210
bi trans woman in her late 20s I guess

>>40213156 (OP)
isn't its crazy how foids get dating privileges even after pooning out

>>40221725
>sound like a whore
How could I be a whore if I'm below average? I've had sex with one person my entire life and I'm monogamous.

>>40221816
Why is T making you ugly? I got cuter on T. You have to actually work on your physical appearance if you want to be attractive. If the T is too much for you just low dose. Stop eating garbage and shave. It's that simple.

>>40222398
if "he" pooned out and still looks enough like a woman that people think its just one, then ye, thats just a woman, being unpassing is different from just being a full on man/woman, you at least end up looking like a poon without much effort

>>40222398
There is no dating privilege in being a dickless manlet. Women like taller guys and they don't like plastic cocks. Same with cis gays, they could easily find another cissoid to fuck.

poonners are made to be sodomized and called fake boys sorry!!

>this thread is still alive
Imagine if a tranny made a thread complaining about how dating sucks because everyone thinks they're a man before announcing she is a tranny. We'd all just be telling the hoe to try harder and stop behaving like a man.

The reason the norm here isn't telling this "man" that if he wants to be seen as a man he needs to actually be a man and not just a larping quirked up whore, is that this board is dominated by men who find quirked up bitches hot and baby trannies who worship the idea of having a pussy.

>>40213156 (OP)
go out drinking on Friday nights instead of playing yaoi vns

the reason you feel this way is because you don't meet people irl

>>40221816

>>40227887
just....

>>40219071
>>40219007
Hot

>>40215699
Transitioning is a choice
You picked something up,
and you put it somewhere else.
You made it happen.

>>40228664
transitioning is technically a choice, yes, but being trans isn't.

>>40222398
>foids
>dating privileges
ywnbaw.

>>40228577
wya

>>40226553
There are people itt telling OP to get in testosterone