What do I have to do to find a boyfriend without giving in to men who are just super aggressive (in a bad way) or gross men? I'm like a 6/10 twinkhon with an okay body and every time I post self people ask how I'm having trouble finding someone.

my standards for a man are:
>don't be obese
>be taller than 173cm (my height)
>don't be extremely sexually forward
>don't be a bottom or have bottomed in the past
>don't be an absolute loser without a car without a stable job living with your parents

are my standards too high? is the problem with me and not the men? Every guy treats me like im some gross man who would fuck anything that moves like they do. I'm touch starved and needy as fuck, but don't want to lower my standards.
i want one man to be ravaged by not give myself up to a bunch of random strangers over and over.

>>40233009 (OP)
>are my standards too high?
yes

>>40233044
what's wrong with them? i match w rly hot guys on apps but they give me ick from their personality or how sexually aggressive they are

>>40233009 (OP)
>i want one man to be ravaged by not give myself up to a bunch of random strangers over and over.
Dream gf

>don't be obese
>be taller than 173cm (my height)
>don't be extremely sexually forward
>don't be a bottom or have bottomed in the past
>don't be an absolute loser without a car without a stable job living with your parents
I pass all of them easily

>>40233053
same here.
it's gross.
i wouldn't even mind it if they were also treating me like a person while being aggressive...
but it seems like there's just two types of guys i encounter lately:
> downlo "let's fuck now"
> submissive bottoms that will never make a move

>>40233009 (OP)
>>don't be extremely sexually forward
That’s hard we kinda have to be

>>40233009 (OP)
Your standards are pretty low and very much reasonable. The thing is that vast majority if men just sucks and it takes a bit more time to find a good one if you want to keep to your standards. But you will find one eventually, just put yourself out there and invest some time in actively being available for dating.
Let's say that 1, maybe 2 guys out of 100 that will contact you are good. You just have to filter those out and connects with them.

>>40233099
counter-intuitively... if you try too hard you'll get nothing... if you don't try at all you'll get nothing...
i suggest finding someone with whom you like something about them other than sex

>>40233053
>>40233009 (OP)

Hello. i am dr. Chud,MD (unironically) and I couldnt help but notice you might be looking for a job. Thankfully we may have exactly what you need for,an assistant position in my house. You can clean,dust,wash the carpets,the floors,cook,buy food,carry it home,wash the windows,the bathtub,scrub etc. For me and in exchange you'll get my ever-dying gratitude.

>>40233053
Guys who will drop a load in your ass =/= guys who would date or marry you. Sorry but as a tranny, you don't really get the benefit of getting to have vapid preferences since you are the bottom of the barrel. I don't mean this as an insult, but as a reality of the dating market

>>40233009 (OP)
I fit all of those
it’s just luck nona, and each time you put yourself out there you are gambling to fulfill each of the standards. Each standard lowers the chances

>>40233133
does my cooking wife pass?
>>40233157
kinda figured that was what's happening :/ i just want to be desired normally and not be an object of lust only.
>>40233100
i've been trying this but the number feels more like 1/1000
>>40233099
why do you have to be? There is a good way to push the line and build tension without doing what most men do. It's so hot when a guy knows how to play the game and escalate but overwhelming majority of guys just come off as sex pests.

>>40233053
Fat ugly single mothers can fuck hot guys all day and night, but none of them would date her in a million years. Same with trannies but even less men want to date you. If you're a useless mentally ill freak why would you expect him to have his shit together perfectly?

>>40233009 (OP)
>mentally ill whore tranny wants someone who will take care of her no questions asked and has no major issues
Why would he pick you? At least with ugly cis women he can have kids.

>>40233498
> If you're a useless mentally ill freak why would you expect him to have his shit together perfectly?
because im not and i'm college educated and have my life together and a vehicle and a job.
>>40233554
>mentally ill whore tranny
kys tubby. never ask why there are no chaser self posts on TTTT (they are all fat and ugly)

can tell yall felt attacked by the not being a loser without a stable life

>>40233009 (OP)
What did you study

I fit all your criteria but I'm a repressor

>>40233636
NTA but the only guys who would choose a tranny over a cis woman long-term are chasers

>>40233709
oh i have nothing against chasers and would totally be fine being with a chaser. I just need to know he's a top and doesnt have any interest in being a bottom ever. Just the chasers on this board r gross.
Especially the ones I've seen self post. lol bunch of dudes w their lives falling apart trying to tear down tranners so they are on the same level as them.
>>40233695
sry </3 bad experiences w guys who r repping or secretly into being fem in the past never again. Need strict tops in the future.

>>40233636
If you're already a strong independent woman why do you need someone to also make money

I really don't feel bad for you when you discriminate against bisexual men and short men. I hope you never find happiness

>>40233009 (OP)
>don't be an absolute loser without a car
It never stops impress me how much women are self entitled and soulless.

>one of the worst housing markets in history
>ERM YOU NEED TO SUCK LANDLORD COCK IF YOU WANT TO BE WITH ME
OP is pathetic

>>40233943
not wanting to take care of someone else = "greedy bitch wants man to pay for everything"

#nooticing the projection. Men get to complain all day everyday about women being money hungry whores but then when I don't want to be mother mary dating the impoverished and helping them out of debt im the bad guy.
>>40233977
no i like bi men. Bi men r fucking hot. I would let my bfs rail twinks. I just don't want to date bottoms lol
>>40234009
if u dont have a car by mid 20s ur doing something wrong with your life and if you just went through catastrophic life ending event where you lost everything and have nothing you shouldn't be looking to date you should be fixing your life.

"I want to date you, but also btw I need transportation everywhere all the time, cant afford to buy u 5$ flowers or a big mac and we can't hang out at my place because my parents are home"
>>40234042
pressed failure moid upset that tranner doesn't want to date dead end job bums with no goals in life working for 10$/hr living at home. Didn't say anything about owning a home or not living with roommates.

>>40234138
>ur doing something wrong with your life
getting a master's. what is your job?

>>40234170
just graduated doing paid internship at the moment hoping it turns into a job. If ur a student that isn't working/lives on campus it's fine to not have a car, but if you're a grown adult who needs to commute it isnt. I don't get how this is some magical concept. Any random person off the street in America would agree with me if you don't have a car pushing 30 you're a bum.

>trannies
>standards

We're already dating down dealing with you people lmao. I meet all the criteria but the fact that trannies think they're deserving of that is hilarious, especially a twinkhon LMAO.

>>40234138
>just went through catastrophic life ending event where you lost everything
Yeah, I grew up with an alcoholic father who stole everything from me.

>you shouldn't be looking to date you should be fixing your life.
I don't wanna someone else to fix my life, just purely love someone. You sounds like trash

>>40233009 (OP)
What do you even have to offer?

>>40234232
>mids 20s = pushing 30
lol. also what's your job?

>"have your shit together before dating me"
>is a tranny
>much less a non-passing twinkhon

>>40234232
Better question
Do YOU have a car?

>>40234138
>I would let my bfs rail twinks
You are literally a cuck gold digger

>>40233009 (OP)
I am all of that but I'm obese, if you clinically tested me

>i would let my bf rail twinks

Yes, because men totally want non-monogamy when dating for the future. You people are fucking porn brained.

>>40234396
>gold digger
have my own car, pay my own rent, and have a job btw. u are a bitter loser
>>40234260
how old are you? I have two addicts for parents it stops being an excuse at some point if it happened in your childhood. Community college is cheap and most states have programs where you can transfer to state schools after finishing your associates to earn a bachelors with only 2 years or less of school with tons of online options to work around your work schedule.
>>40234324
engineering, i am mid 20's i want to date a guy older than me, but not ancient hence pushing 30.

>>40234474
I want monogamy but if he wanted to do that I would let him. in my post I literally talk about wanting ONE man. I have no desire to sleep around
>>40234322
i have a stable career lined up, i cook, am sociable, good w kids and animals, and loving.
>>40234337
now post a pic of urself
>>40234349
yes

>>40234138
Jesus Christ, chasers in this thread are absolutely low quality and full of shit. Do not listen to them, they want you to lower the standards but do not do that under no condition. They are low enough and you should not settle for anything else.
Remember that we trannies are a rarity, especially if you are an attractive twinkhon. Supply is very low and demand is high. There are a lot of men that are going to want you for various reasons and you can be a chooser since there are literally hordes of them.
Be on several apps, servers, sites, whatever. If you are confident enough you can also focus on your search irl.
If you spent your time actively in dating spaces then you know that 100 guys a day messaging you is absolutely possible. Even if the ratio of good guys to trash is 1:1000 like you wrote, then the chances of finding that one are still on your side.

>>40234476
>Community college
I live in Latin America

i would LIKE to date a tranny and idc if you're a twinkhon

however i don't meet your standards.
ironically cis women still show interest in me because being attractive and actually giving a shit about women is a plus apparently

IDK maybe look harder :[

>>40234555
yeah they just want me to believe everyone has some magical bad spawn where the odds are stacked against them insurmountably and they can just accomplish nothing in their life other than living at home and working 10$ above minimum wage. I might not pass yet but I am attractive w a really good body and have FFS consult coming up. I have no issue waiting for the right person to date. I will find him eventually

>>40234593
you aren't a part of the convo then. This is about living in the USA. I am sorry for the situation you are in cause I know what having terrible awful parents is like, but I am talking about purely a USA experience. I have no clue what the experience is like in other regions/nations and wouldn't put my expectations of americans on others. There r tons of education routes either college or technical skills to build a career in America.

>>40234620
i would date a twink >.< i like fem men they r hot too. My main criteria for physical stuff is literally just dont be obese. I would date someone shorter than me too just a preference of a man being taller than me. I would date someone who is working towards the stuff I listed regarding having a car,job,etc.

I just don't want to date someone who isn't going to work towards anything at all. Like a guy who I talked to near my home town is 30 and acted like I was a bad guy for not wanting to date him when he lives at home, works barely above min wage at a local store, no car, not pursuing education, technical training, or anything else.

>>40234476
>how old are you?
25
I was approved and the best universities for engineering in my country in Latin America, I speak 4 languages and my highest paid job was as a cashier in a market because no one hired me.

I literally spend my young years working during the day and studying during night just to be in the line of poverty. I did everything I was suppose to and I was never recompensed not even once in my life.

>>40234693
most of the stuff i said about not being fem is more about reppers/guys who r going to try n steal my clothes to wear or take my estrogen lol. I have no issue w twinks femboys short guys or anything like that. I just don't want to date someone who is going to troon out on me or a guy who is a bottom. It's like a dog hierarchy thing. Ur dog things ur in charge then sees u getting fucked and doesn't respect u anymore.

>>40234718
that's rly shitty and awful. I am sorry if my post seemed targeted at you wasn't rly my intention to target people outside of the USA. Hope things turn brighter for you in the future anon.

>>40234693
>someone who isn't going to work towards anything at all
(I only read your OP and none of the follow up posts so sorry if you clarified your flexibility already).

Yeah this is beyond reasonable when setting standards.
The thing is like, how well are you getting to know guys to know whether or not this is the case before filtering them out, and how are you communicating these standards to prospective boyfriends?

>>40234555
>demand is high
What planet are you from?

>>40234851
On the same planet you do. I simply see how many men swarm me any time I'm available and how easy it is for me to get hook ups, dates and long term relationship whenever I need them with men up to my standards.

>>40234924
Nevermind it's just a /chasergen/ attention whore who thinks that's the entire world.
>men will fuck anything
Crazy, right? That's why you're alone in your 30s.

>>40234138
What is the difference between living at home and living with roommates?

>>40234976
The former you can afford to save money without lucking into a good job.

trannies are for practice and hookups. cis women are for marrying and raising a family with.

learn your place, whores.

>>40234815
>this is beyond reasonable when setting standards
yeah i feel like it is but idk. I've seen many men my dad(giant piece of shit) included take advantage of women's kindness and love to better their life then cheat on the woman or leave her. That's my biggest fear for not wanting to date someone that isn't already working towards goals. I don't want to uplift someone I love then be backstabbed it's not about money.

>>40234976
nothing really. The difference is the circumstances on why you live at home. If you are living at home because you literally cannot afford anything else that's my issue (assuming that living at home you also aren't pursuing any education technical or academic). If you are living at home because you have loving parents and they don't want you to pay for your own place for no reason that's WAY different and I have no problem w men or women like that.

>>40234924
>I simply see how many men swarm me any time I'm available
same desu. ppl on here can disagree but i get hundreds of likes on dating apps and my grindr account gets close to 1k views a day normally. All of the guys I'm attracted to I don't have an issue getting dates/hooking up w if I wanted to, they just don't pass the shit test for me and I'm not interested in sleeping around.

>>40234963
>Crazy, right? That's why you're alone in your 30s
Who said I'm alone?
But I propably will be soon enough because my stupid whore brain recently decided that what was working for me for the past year is not working anymore and I should go again on finding someone new

>>40235080
>baby's first "omg men want to fuck me i must be soooo hot!"
Nothing has changed since >>40233498. Also, if your "dates" never result in anything, they're not serious, obviously, lol.
>>40235100
>I'm not alone I just slut out on /chasergen/
>teehee well I actually will be alone shortly in my 30s
Color me surprised.

OP I don't even think your standards are high but >>40234259 and >>40235076 are often correct. The ratio of men willing to fuck a tranny versus marry is like 1000:1. Cis women have bullied me my entirely life but when I found /lgbt/ I immediately found multiple hot trannies who thought I was cute and found a gf (we're probably going to get married within a year or two). It's kinda retarded to pretend trannies aren't easier.

>>40235192
i've already been in a relationship w a man. It didn't work out. Yall have this 100 or 0 mentality. Cis ppl go on dates that end up being nothing all the time lol. If I am not attracted to the person or decide after the date that we are probably not compatible how is that a fault on my part? Should I be jumping into relationships w every man that throws themselves at me?

>>40235305
>I had one failed relationship wdym
>cis people have failed in the past too
I didn't say you should lower your standards, I'm just putting your experience into perspective that it's very much akin to those of fat ugly single mothers.
You're juggling "oh yeah my standards aren't that high" with "oh yeah I'm going on dates with so many hot guys (that all go nowhere btw)" when the latter men are obviously unimaginably above your best chances. Either that or you're barely trying lol.

>>40233009 (OP)
It's a result of two factors:

>Most men are not good enough for dating ANY woman
>We as trannies are also not good enough for MOST men

The necessary factors at play to produce a long term relationship between a man and a trans woman are so specific that it's almost impossible to come across a good bf without a lot of effort and time put into it. Too many women competing for too few men and we got the most disadvantage.

>>40235403
>Either that or you're barely trying lol.
barely trying desu lol. i'm not going on tons n tons of dates or anything. I was saying that to talk about accessibility. I have access to those men and they reciprocate, not that I'm going on tons n tons of dates that go nowhere. I've gone on a cpl first dates, like single digit amt.

>>40235256
guys who talk like that are going to end up dating some hog because they waited till they were 30+ to find a cis woman and all that's left are trash just like the men they are. "yeah i practiced and slept around till i was 30 and now i'm ready to settle down". Yall sound like the caricatures and stereotypes men make about women lol.

>>40233009 (OP)
men are by and large not actually capable of love
dont take this as an advertisement for women either they're not any better, the ones that are are like 99% bpdemons or already have someone on lock

>>40233009 (OP)
>be a man
>don't be extremely sexually forward
just date women at this point, it's over

>>40235525
I think that's how almost all chasers see trannies. I didn't say it was a viable strategy. It's just how it is.

>>40233053
Your standards are very normal and easy because they’re all controllable except for the height. Other than myself; I know a lot of people pass it. It’s just unusual for transgenders to have a normal standards

>>40233009 (OP)
Is there a standard for dick size?

>>40235723
it really isn't. There was one chaser I tried talking to on here that I would rly pursue a relationship w if we weren't so long distance. he's hot, im attracted to him, he plays the game well and i would be rly interested in loving him if there wasn't a distance factor. There is a way to be sexually forward without being a gross weirdo. Escalation and building tension. Most guys r just "GOD I WOULD FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF U" from first msg

>>40235928
helll noooo. Size queens are so weird. I am not built to be stretched out by some animal. Genuinely turns me off when i get dick pics from guys w super big dicks.

>>40235985
What’s a good size in your eyes and what do you view as too big or too small?

>>40235985
Meanwhile you probably have a 9 inch dildo.

>>40233009 (OP)
Wya OP?

>>40235985
That's called being a sex pest but if you think most guys wouldn't have sex with you after getting to know you then you're delusional, we just have a naturally high sex drive

>>40236196
Most guys don't like cock

>>40236149
i use a vibrator and my fingers like god intended.
>>40236060
anything over 7 is too big and not going inside of me lol
>>40236196
yeah the issue is they r being sex pesty. I dont have a problem w guys wanting to sleep w me it's guys "looking to date" who r just sex pests.

what's the point of a long term relationship with a tranny? literally none

>>40236281
Do you think 5.5 to 6 inches is a good size range?

>>40236322
You get to have her cheat on you when she finds out she's actually a lesbian

>>40236358
yes

>>40236223
You've got other holes, if you're fem enough a cock won't be the deciding factor
>>40236281
Fair enough, there is enough of those but what I mean is that if a guy likes you he will be sexually forward. Doing otherwise would be going against our nature.

>>40236571
>if a guy likes you he will be sexually forward
the problem for me is they aren't tactful about it not that they like me and sexually forward. Idk how to explain this in a way that a man gets, but even when I like a man if he comes on too strong when we r still in like getting to know each other phase it's a little bit off putting.
like jumping into a pool vs easing into it idk. I don't want some guy talking about how he wants to fuck me when we havent even kissed yet. Like u can flirt and be forward without being so explicit u can talk about can't waiting to fuck after we have alr had sex and u r dying to see me again.

>>40236322
men in this thread calling me trash, a gold digger, and incapable of love meanwhile these are their average responses. Love is transactional to yall and you are going to be unhappy with the partner you settle for.

>>40235525
>I have so many amazing options which is why I'm alone in my mid 20s and made this thread complaining about it
Just an attention whore, got it.

>>40236684
sounds like to me youre just romantic and want sex from someone whom you like or are exclusive with nothing wrong with that just have to be upfront about it

>>40236684
Yeah, this is definitely some woman shit. If I already know you and like you then I will want to fuck you, it is what it is. I just don't see sex as some sacred act or whatever, if we vibe we can do it and it won't make any difference. Hate how society makes a way bigger deal out of it than just the basic satisfying of urges it is.

>>40236770
>why can't everyone be a loveless slut like myself!!!!
women moment

>>40233009 (OP)
on the real the only solution i found was to pass as cis, get srs, and never mention being trans again.

>>40236789
What? I'm a guy. I just don't associate sex with love, they're not connected whatsoever. I have such naturally high sex drive that I would fuck my friends I have 0 feelings for. It's just a basic needs part of life for me like eating or sleeping.

>>40236938
die whore

>>40236766
yeah pretty much this idk why ppl act like im stuck up or something for that lol. I said multiple times I have no interest in sleeping around.
>>40236726
when did i say i have so many amazing options lol? matching w hot guys is not the same as having quality options for partners. learn to read, but u probably are stuck at 4th grade reading level and upset like all the other losers who got hurt by me saying i dont want to be with loser men.
>>40236789
this whole thread is about how i dont want to be a loveless slut lol...... and all the men r telling me that's all im good for but ur saying women moment to a man talking about being a sex pest who doesnt care about emotional connection. Yall r the loveless freaks not me.

>>40237000
Your entire thread's question is answered by you saying you're "barely trying", which you would've known before you made the thread. You're just an attention whore.

>>40236949
Cope and seethe retard, love is much deeper than just touching genitals like a monkey.

>>40237052
oh no I'm not a turbo slut I'm so sad :'(((. woman moment!

>>40237016
i started barely trying cause of the way men are lol..... if i was an attention whore i would be posting pics of my self in this thread to get chasers saying they would fuck me. How is increasing the # of dates i go on going to help in weeding thru shitty men?
If anything it's helped me to weed thru shitty men by being less open to go on dates and more prudish. by being less available it weeds out all the men who don't care to pursue because they aren't actually interested beyond sex.

>>40237083
incel male saying woman moment to another male

OP just keeps digging herself into a retarded hole.

Just shut the fuck up and learn your place as a sex toy for us until we find an actual woman to be with.

I'll take one for the team and date op

>>40237132
>problem is lack of trying
so try harder

>>40237132
>incel
I have a trans gf. Obviously LGBTs can't be incels lol. Men can do women moments too.

>>40237186
Have you read this thread? No fucking thanks.

>stopped putting in effort
>wants to cuck
>self-described twinkhon

lol
lmao

>>40237083
I'm a guy in a conservative country, I've last had sex like 7 years ago. Who the fuck are you calling a woman kek

>>40237212
>wants to cuck
have said i want monogamy 10x this thread lol
>self-described twinkhon
why would i overrate myself and call myself a passoid or something? if i undervalue myself and end up being worth more that's better
>stopped putting in effort
Not 24/7 seeking out a partner isn't "stopped putting in effort" i just deleted apps and am trying to meet ppl organically.