Thread 40233437

it seems like most of the research that has been done on this topic is on anything but injections and if u ask the reddit or discord troons theyll all immediately jump to the blood clotting or cancer or whatever i literally could not care less about any of that all i care about is if itll hinder me passing does anyone have any research on this topic specifically for injections? if no research anecdotal experience on its effects on and off nicotine with injections are appreciated thank you

>>40233437 (OP)
It'll age your skin and teeth which will make you uglier to most people. Idk about actually effects on estrogen though.

>>40233476
im starting to wonder if there is legitimately no real research on this at i find it honestly annoying desu i want to know if im quitting cigarettes for something or am just making myself miserable for no reason

>>40233437 (OP)
i read somewhere that nicotine inhibits the brain's access to estrogen or something... might explain why ftm reppers smoke

>>40233437 (OP)
i smoke like a pack a month while on injections and my levels have always been fine. but i will concur with the other poster that it makes you uglier and thereby hinders passing

>>40233437 (OP)
ive been on injections for 5 years, chainsmoked for 3. i dunno if i look older but i dont think so? part of a few of my teeth fell out though but that might be from other stuff. its definitely bad but w/e

>>40233437 (OP)
Cigarettes do but dip actually makes your HRT more potent

>>40233858
Why did parts of your teeth fall out

>>40233899
i smoke abt half a pack a day but im also severely anorexic so it could b either desu

>>40233437 (OP)
it ages you and stuff but in my opinion and research it’s only if you are smoking like a pack a day if you smoke in moderation like 3 cigs a day max and not everyday i think you are fine smoke va slims lol or ultra lights taste like nothing cant do much idk but i love spirits too much jus recently starting smoking again too idc dying anyway gl anom

>>40233437 (OP)
i wasn't getting any results before i started but i've heard its because both estrogen and cigs cause increased risk of blood clots. luckily i have a blood disease that basically counteracts that

>>40233437 (OP)
Anecdotally I would consider smoking to have nominal contraindications w injections, but if you ever find yourself interested in any surgeries it’ll definitely make the healing process less than ideal
>t. pack a week smoker, can’t quit long enough to make srs worth it

>>40233437 (OP)
Of course they do anon . There's dozens of peer reviewed articles on the subject. Note that it's smoking specific. Vapes and patches are not well understood, but also shown to negate estrogen. Only question is degree. This is of course not even counting any of the other effects. Smoking hurts any chance of passing and feminization.

>>40233773
Here's a casual article on the topic.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/nicotine-may-block-estrogen-in-womens-brains-making-it-harder-to-quit-smoking.

One study has the nicotine internasally,.

>>40233934
What is your bmi? I am pretty underweight, but I’ve never had teeth issues, only gum recession

>>40234038
17.1 up from 16.2 in the last few weeks, im trying to gain because i look gross rn. the tooth thing might legitimately b the cigs or constantly vomiting fwiw (drinking not bulimia)

>>40233437 (OP)
cis male bisexual here. I've dated smokers, and their skin is usually drier and their hair has less shine. Their teeth are yellowed, and if they smoke at the same spot it stains the tooth enamel which is obvious. Their breath smells like an ashtray when you kiss them, and overall the house/apartment just stinks. I wouldn't date another smoker, its a deal breaker now.

As for the Endocrinology, I've read that nicotine blocks estrogen, so that's on top of all the other bad shit.

As for feminine mannerisms? Sure, some movie starlets made smoking look glamorous, but most women do not pull that off and end up just looking trashy. Plus its going to be additive, give you cancer and cost a lot of cash? Just fucking don't.

>>40234079
Yeah that sounds pretty rough, I am always scared of ruining my teeth.
Since I started hrt I have tried to gain, I was around 16.2 before hrt, and now I’m about 17.2. I feel fat now though, and I am going to try to get back to what I was.
Stay safe

>>40234038
>only gum recession
you do know that's the reason teeth fall out, right?

>>40233437 (OP)
I don't smoke and I don't drink, those aren't womanly things to do.

>>40233437 (OP)
Cigarettes fuck with your EVERYTHING, DONT SMOKE.

>>40233437 (OP)
If you are taking sublingual estrogen, smoking will inhibit that. Otherwise it's the same as...smoking if you were a natal woman.

>>40237890
...which is also verified to negate estrogen. Particularly in the brain.

>>40234012
>https://www.healthline.com/health-news/nicotine-may-block-estrogen-in-womens-brains-making-it-harder-to-quit-smoking.
that only says it inhibits the manufacturing of estrogen though? tranny bodies don't make any estrogen

>>40234463
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>>40233957
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