qott: how do we make being ftm cool and sexy?
qott2: should twinks be boiled alive?

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>>40238992 (OP)
>qott2: should twinks be boiled alive?
No nigga

>>40238992 (OP)
>how do we make being ftm cool and sexy?
Detransition and be a normal cis girl. Ywnbatw

>>40238992 (OP)
i don't wanna make it cool and sexy i wanna just be a man

>>40239042
>ywnbatw
thank god

>>40238992 (OP)
Recruit masculine cishons to become ftchads

>>40238992 (OP)
I will devour a cute boiled twink

>>40239041
t.

>>40239199
stop boiling twinks :/ i need to fuck a cis twink and boyremove her desu

>>40239299
Stop transitioning twinks I need a bottom bf

>>40238992 (OP)
have entered the part of having a crush where you get psychosis

>>40238992 (OP)
actually all ftm twinks should be forced into a workout regime and forcefed a high protein diet until they become huge and I can have my harem of strongmen who carry me around in a pagoda

>>40239917
GIWTWM

doctor found out that I had had several ovarian cysts ruptured when doing tests and all that. she was so flabbergasted that I never once sought medical care after cysts rupturing. she said something like cyst ruptures are comparable to going into labor in terms of pain. just said "idk I guess I thought I was sick with a stomach bug and waited it out"

my ovaries are apparently cooked btw

just to be clear all these ruptures happened before taking testosterone i haven't felt any sort of pain like that anymore since taking it

>>40240678
That's normal. You stop ovulating on T so there's no chance for cysts to grow. Actually many people don't want to hear it but other than surgery including removal of the ovaries testosterone is the only effective treatment for persistent cysts.

i want a bf with bpd

>>40238992 (OP)
>qott2
No they should be forced to switch bodies with me

>>40240736
Would anti estrogens work? Maybe some form of birth control (I know they have e/prog but still)?

i started cutting again, why do i keep fucking up

>>40241217
It's much less effective than testosterone as far as I know.

>>40238992 (OP)
We can't make being ftm look cool because there are too many of us that are weird nerds (me desu) or faggy offputting androgynous creatures

i like being on T and i know the gym would help this feeling im having. but my mental problems are making me worry ive made a mistake

>>40241623
my sense of self is fractured

just started a 3-day amphetamine binge i can't wait to fill an entire notebook with schizobabble

>qott: how do we make being ftm cool and sexy?
this will never happen (at least not in any of our lives) but the best results i've had ironically come from not caring.
and obviously the better you pass the more palatable you are and the more likely people are to take you seriously. being attractive is quite important too but passing is slightly higher priority. ideally you're both.

>>40241230
it's okay, healing isn't linear. you shouldn't beat yourself up over it. <3

I stayed up late to make progress in omori (The castle section is annoying as hell, but maybe that was just because I am very tired), I felt like I was going to pass out over an hour ago, and after I beat sweetheart my power went out before I got to save. I am so tired I feel sick.

>>40238992 (OP)
>qott: just realize that you're already superior to cissoids. molding your body for your own comfort and pleasure vs. keeping the default settings because of social convention

>>40241623
exercise can help improve mental health

>>40238992 (OP)
Caring about optics is never cool or sexy, attempting to live as an inversion of the effete masses will only grant you the same swagless affect. Concrete cowboys and blue collar larpers are the new metrosexuals. Mincecore faggots are the new Cavetown frogposters…… That being said we need to roll out more gym propaganda asap
>>40239917
I’m doing my part o7

>>40242987
Unironically this

>>40243115
optics matter only as far as getting people to stop repping. I think all of us wish we started before puberty was in full swing

>>40243115
i like you

>>40243115
Trying to hard

>>40240636
I also have cysts on my ovaries but I don't know if I've ruptured any, yet. Are you planning on getting your ovaries removed?

>>40243335
do you think they'll ever let me put my ovaries in a mtf so she can bear me bio kids

Anons do you prefer female or male doctors? I have to pick someone for an appointment because of sinus issues and I'm specifically looking at only female ENTs/surgeons because I feel like they're are less likely to brush me off. I don't know if that's reasonable or retarded/judgemental against men.

>>40243395
say that you initially didn't want to go in but your gf made you and you should be good

>>40243395
I always pick female doctors in hopes that one is cute

Hello, I have a legitimate question, I am not trying to be mean:

I currently volunteer at a non profit that seeks to provide legal and psychological help to trans kids and their families. It's small, like, the main thing right now is just a monthly meeting for the kids and their parents to vent and stuff.
Most of the kids that come are FtM and I am not trying to be toxic but I feel like most of them will detransition by 18. They'll forget what they were all their teenage years and that's it, they'll ostracize the only one who might not detrans.
Am I being too judgmental to some random 15 year olds? Am I projecting onto them?

Question to AFABs: why do your mutilate your sexy afab bodies?

>>40243582
i don't think you're wrong in feeling this way. as a young trans guy, i always secretly held the belief that for a lot of teens, it's just a phase, and in some point in early adulthood they'll desist/detrans. i especially held this view with non binary people.

if you look at the majority of active detransitioners, a lot of them are ftmtf who transitioned as teenagers. it's really hard to dictate the trutrans from the social contagions at this age, but they do exist. i have an ftm friend who started T at 14 and still IDs as a man, despite detransing and retransing. i think BPD is more of an issue if anything.

>>40243395
i have no preference unless its something like a gynecological appointment and even then i wouldn't outright deny a guy doctor. fwiw though throughout my life i basically always get women doctors without asking.

>>40243582
Reason number 3727727737636893 why bleeding heart libshit foids shouldn’t work social services idgaf if you’re a tranny

>>40243719
I made it sexier

>>40239917
this.
we don't need no harem anon, we need a platoon of strogmen ftms all buff and reaady to fight, those boys need more muscle on them

>>40244009
I am not a social worker I just wanted to help other transgenders have the help me and my parents didn't get.

>>40243301
Tru but preteens have horrible taste and no aesthetic sensibilities beyond surface level vapidity so anything that successfully appeals to youngshits inherently can’t be cool or sexy

>>40244051
Social services =/= being a social worker specifically retard

what is with the sheer amount of ftms who are so fucking fembrained. i'm sick of seeing a passoid on reels, opening up a video where they speak, and hearing that feminine speech pattern and accent. a lot of them havs girlfriends, too, but in my experience many butches lack these patterns.
yeah i know i'm just going to get "cuz they're women/female" but i'd like to see other trans men out there that lack these clearly female inclinations. maybe they don't use social media. am i just being an asshole?

>>40244072
Ok but like what am I doing wrong, I have no power over the kids, I am just being dramatic like ''I know you'll leave me'', which ironically is a very man thing to do.

>>40244085
Post vocaroo

>>40244113
i just got my T prescription im coping

>>40243582
Why are you whining here when you could just give those kids the T you're clearly not taking?

>>40244118
Everybody gangsta until they also get a pooner voice after T and realise they'll have to voicetrain.

>>40244085
Imo probably a combo of internalizing foid speech patterns during the pre troon overcompensation phase and the somewhat pervasive idea that testosterone is really all you need to pass well

>>40244125
Because the ''bosses'' are a theyfab and a lesbian mom so if I were to do that I would get kicked out because transmedicalism is cringe or something. The kids have to decide and when I brought it up once it seemed like they didn't want to.

>>40244148
i haven't started taking T yet but i'm lucky enough to already have a deep voice for a female. i'm gonna work on removing my feminine inflections with voice training but i don't struggle with it too bad now.
even when i go on T i know i'm destined to become a balding manlet, hopefully the men of my family's genetics pull through and i can pass successfully without having to cope.

>>40244085
no, you're not being an asshole
when push comes to shove, your AFaB/AMaB socialization is inescapable

>>40244118
Classic

>>40244433
>i haven't started taking T yet

>>40244512
i literally just had my appointment i just gotta get my blood work done and get my prescription

>>40244475
>AFaB/AMaB socialization is inescapable
how do you explain trans people with matching (as in, ftms with masculine and mtfs with feminine) mannerisms/speech patterns/etc, then?
i know that sounds snarky lol but i don't mean it like that, i'm genuinely curious about your thought process

>>40244475
How does one know if they have AFAB or AMAB socialization?

>>40244543
What were you born as?

>>40244475
This post was written by an afab

>>40244525
one can be socialized as their assigned sex yet still go against the status-quo. the butch women in my life present very masculinely, no fem speech patterns, but still indulge in feminine habits and mannerisms. same with gay men, who often have fem speech patterns but still do things that are innate to men. i don't even know how exactly to describe these habits/mannerisms/patterns, it's just something you know when you see it.

i don't get it when other lgbt people aren't able to know who is a butch woman vs. who is ftm. i can easily spot who is trans and who isn't.

>>40244168
transmedicalism is cringe yet hrt is often heavily pushed...

>>40244525
Children have different temperaments and attitudes towards authority. Some kids are taught "sit like a lady" and they obey and grow up into mommy's cute pageant girl, and some respond with "no, I do what I want" and sprawl out on the chair even more.

>>40244754
>some respond with "no, I do what I want"
That's a result of bad parenting it has nothing to do with personality

>>40244788
Kids have inherent temperaments you can observe when they're still newborns and haven't really been parented in meaningful ways. They also can be born with a disorder affecting their attitude towards authority (most severe case would be what society commonly calls psychopathy, meaning no parenting will ever work on those kids).
My theory is that trans men who are naturally masculine are the ones with natural self-importance and independence, especially narcissists, so they resist being parented into a girl.
>tldr: psych degree sperging.

>>40244643
I agree but the policy of the organization is ''we don't encourage them to get on hrt, IF they want to we have resources and contacts to get it, but we don't bring it up often''. Which I guess is a reasonable centrist position, these kids don't seem too keen on testosterone idk.

>>40244927
>psych degree
>doesn't know the term for conduct disorder
Parenting plays a huge role

what happened to carti anon, he was the best trip

>>40244976
If they're out as transgender in 2025 they are surely aware of testosterone
If they want it they can say so

>>40245071
Too busy shoving hairbrushes up her ass

I'll be fagging it up on pride in cologne with my boyfriend this weekend, if you see a huge retard with an intersex flag it's me.

>>40244524
just order roids you'll have them in 2 days.

>>40245168
A huge retard with a liddle dood beside him

>>40243582
> I feel like most of them will detransition by 18
What makes you assume this other than the usual "afabs are vapid superficial creatures who always chase trends for social points" ? Why would you assume their pain isn't real?
>>40244085
I don't have poonvoice but I do sound kinda gay when I talk. I'm bi with a male preference so I don't give a shit. Idk why you would care nor do I understand why people make such a big deal of former women being feminine.

As a straight ftm is it morally okay to fuck pre-T gaydens as long as you don't misgender them

>>40245197
Of course my point of view is skewed by my personal experience as an mtf and being too involved on queer activism but my observations are the following:

>All their friends are cisf or ftm, they do not interact with cis men whatsover nor want to be involved in their social cricles (I cannot blame them, I wouldn't want to either in their position).
>Fujo brain, I also have a case of fujo brain and ocassionally think about detransitioning to have gay sex. Of course that'd be a stupid decision so I just keep fujoing.
>They are approaching 16 and haven't considered HRT at all even though they could get it with relative ease (in my country the laws are decent enough).

>>40245299
You're allowed to misgender them

>>40245194
he's quite broad but I am a fair bit taller.

if you try to flirt he might stab you, he's quite possessive.

>>40240636
Well, your lack of self care passes for male. Keep in mind that external T covers up major signs of ovarian cancer and that people have fucking died fromathat..

>>40243582
tranny here. dont ruin a teenager life. teenagers more often than not undergo this kind of phase and it goes away. most FtM teenagers are just Girls that in avoidance to believe that they are not femenine enough, they embrace masculinity.

real trans people exist but also need to be realistic and understeand that teenagers are always seeking to shape their identity. you can easily tell them apart with those who Desire to be men and those to Desire to be trans
>>40244125
Dont listen to this stupid fuck

Do any of you little guys want to become seahorse daddies?

>>40245308
>approaching 16 and haven't considered HRT at all
Idk what causes this, I really regret not starting T as soon as possible, but I would assume part of it is the attitude towards T, that it turns you ugly (girls appearances are valued over their happiness and they are taught this very early in life), easily gives you roid rage (untrue as fuck), or turns you into a sexist rapist (not being a creepy sex pest is very easy). Terf ideology has infected the lgbt community for many years now so I assume thats a huge part of it. I also think for a young person it might seem scary to go on hrt since its le scary permanent change but first puberty is too and infinitely worse if you are dysphoric. Would you have these assumptions for young trans girls though? People are really quick to disregard and make fun of teenage girls (young ftms count as them in this situation) though I do understand the hesitancy since I used to be a cringe teenager too

>>40243719
I don't find female bodies sexy, including my own.

>>40245418
meeeeeeeee

>>40245428
All the young tgirls I know (I am 20 and started at 15) are always like ''DAMN, IMAGINE, IF I GOT ESTROGEN AT ELEVEN'' even though it's silly and doesn't work that way. Resistance to hrt is higher among ftms than mtfs and it might because of what you say: the femenine body is more desirable, even if it costs you your true desires.
Sadly I haven't met many trans girls irl yet through the organization, the ones I know from university also started around the age I did and well there's also the late transitioners, though they are becoming less common.

Pooners who haven't taken testosterone just need to get fucked good and they'll stop wanting to be men

Does T make the pussy muscles stronger or something??? nigga last nite clamped me down like a crab claw holy shit

>>40242930
lol

>>40245535
he's trying to steal your penis

>>40245503
Ft"m"s who aren't taking testosterone belong to ftms on it for 10+ years

>>40245555
i mean ZAMN

>>40245535
it causes the internal structure to atrophy actually, what you got were atrophy cramps, most likely.

>>40245601
any links / articles to this?

>>40245619
Kirkley et al. (2019)
>testosterone therapy alters the vaginal environment, including the microbiome and epithelial structure, which reflects estrogen deficiency and atrophic changes.
Spratt et al. (2017)
>testosterone leads to hypoestrogenic states that contribute to genital atrophy, similar to postmenopausal cisgender women.
Wierckx et al. (2014)
participants reported vaginal dryness, discomfort, and atrophy-related symptoms, especially after long-term testosterone therapy.

>>40245601
Everyone says this but I know it's bullshit
Use it or lose it. Use it and you'll have a wet pussy with a gorilla grip

>>40245651
partially true but atrophy will still happen.

it can cause issues with urination too.

>>40245705
maybe its different for blacks

>>40245566
I want a pre-T/low dose gayden boyfriend so I can forcemasc him or so I can look more masculine in comparison

>>40245428
i just felt hopeless for a long time like itd be impossible where i lived. once i moved out i realized how much time i wasted

>>40245705
Not to me it won't

>>40245757
Thats how I felt living with my shitty family, I repped for many years but eventually decided to risk getting kicked out because I couldnt take it anymore. Tbdesu I wish someone had taught me about diy when I was 18 y/o. Many such cases

>>40238992 (OP)
Why do so many white males have this tattoo? I see it everywhere, it seems to be some form of fashion statement typically white males have this tattoo on their foreheads while their white girlfriends have them either on the ankle, wrist, or other places. What does it mean?

>>40245936
but why are you asking this in ftmg

>>40245962
Well, the males here may be apart of this trend as well and be able to explain

>>40245962
Because hes a retarded spamming tourist

>>40245972
There are no males here

>>40246082
Why?

>>40246167
try /mtfg/

>>40243395
If I can choose, I always choose male doctors. Females seem to brush everything off as nothingburgers, which can cause things to get worse.
For example; I go see a (female) doctor about my stomach, which got upset almost instantly every time after eating. It had lasted for 2 months and she said ''oh you just have an active stomach, it's normal''.
I go see a male doctor after shitting my guts out twice a day for 4 months, he instantly ordered all tests from bacterial infections to lactose/gluten intolerance. I had gotten some kind of stomach bug from traveling to London, it caused permanent damage to my intestines in these 4 months.
It's funny 'cause the female doctor asked me if I had traveled and still brushed it off.

>>40246167
This is a general thread for females

>>40245651
You got a lot of people in here who would rather shove glass down their throat than shove dick in their pussy, unfortunately

>>40246764
Low test

>>40246764
a lot? kek

need help, doods. i want to become more informed on trans medicine and history in order to better combat GC and TERF views. going down the stinkditch rabbit hole on kiwi farms is lethal, and i don't have the data to counter it currently. if we are being real here a lot of trannies do indeed fit stereotypes, as much as i love brickhons.

i'm still going to take T, but are they right and should i just go down the "i'm a bearded woman!" route or actually affirm what i believe is my true identity?

>>40247125
You should just stay a woman and get married and have 3 biological kids

>>40247125
do people really care about this
talking to the average cis person about trans issues is like talking to a downies kid. i stopped caring like 2 years in, they can believe whatever they want to believe and i'll agree and it's a good thing.
i genuinely do not get the perspective that i should take issue with people transitioning for a fetish or a trend, and i think it should be viewed as objectively good that large swathes of people are voluntarily choosing to participate in semi 'experimental' medicine.

>>40247143
never wanted kids even when i identified as cis. don't like em and don't want to be stuck possibly raising a disabled person for the rest of my life.
>>40247143
i have a hard time not caring, the thought of them being right scares me. these are also not average cis people, these are people neurotically obsessed with trans people, transgenderism, and everything we do.

>>40247302
>the thought of them being right scares me
Not a good sign honestly

>>40247302
literally what are they supposed to be 'right' about

>>40247302
damn you talk like a completely retarded woman lol. i think they are right, you should stay off hormones because you clearly are nothing more than a retarded fucking hole.

>>40247302
Terfs are right, we're all just a bunch of lost lesbians and fujoshi gooners who got groomed by the trans agenda. Cry about it.

>>40239917
i wish someone would pay for ny gym membership and my supplements and force me to eat good so that i can pin them down and destroy them

>>40247550
If you had a truly dominant spirit you'd turn it on yourself and wouldn't need someone else to force you to do those things

>>40247437
what makes it not a good sign?
>>40247476
well, i'm not on T yet so i guess you are right about that. i already have my mind made up on a lot of things regarding trans issues but TERF rhetoric still sows doubt nonetheless. i also have OCD which makes me mega retarded.

>>40247729
>what makes it not a good sign?
>need to prove mentally ill strangers on the internet wrong (why)
>fear that they're right
Are you trying to prove them wrong or prove to yourself that you're right? Maybe you should spend your time thinking about what you really want instead of wasting it on this

>>40245705
i did not experience this from t, i got it from insane amounts of birth control that i had to take to manage another condition
no atrophy after i got off those other meds
if you're trying to use it to keep it, you need to not just put fingers or small vibrators inside. its the actual stretching sensation that helps keep things healthy. like stretching any other body part.
technically you should also be doing kegels regardless of gender or sex, but you should definitely be doing them as FTM in case you need a hysto.

>>40247447
i guess the biggest thing would be that being trans isn't real? i don't even know where to stand on the biology of it all, but for the sake of argument that you cannot change your gender/sex.

>>40247798
how is 'being trans isn't real' a different position from 'plastic surgery isn't real'
'biologically' you can be anything, in the end it doesn't matter if material reality is changed

>>40247729
Ok, I was snarky towards you in >>40247532 but I'll respond for real because I lowkey feel sorry for you cause I relate to the OCD thought patterns. I was having similar thoughts before going on T, wondering if terfs are right and being trans is bullshit, and if I'm mentally ill in a different way but confusing it for dysphoria. But then I started T anyway because I decided I'd rather fuck up by doing something risky than fuck up by not doing anything, and I'm happier on T in every way. Nowadays I can't imagine not having testosterone in my body, I'd rather die. My body functions better (all of my chronic health issues went away or got better), my brain functions better and I'm doing good. I'm friends with trans women and they experienced the same thing on E, so it's not just "roids make you feel good because they're roids".
Anyway, who the fuck cares what terfs think? You live to be happy, not to be right in some stupid political debate with a retarded woman.

>>40247784
what i really want is to transition. ywnbaw but for me, a biological female. i have a hard enough time relating to other trans men because i see a lot of them as too feminine in their interests and mannerisms.
but to answer your other question, both. i'm a scientifically minded person obsessed with being right and not on the wrong side of history.

>>40245857
i just was convinced i'd never have the money, it wouldn't work, i'd hurt the people i loved etc etc. victim mentality. after leaving home it still took me like 5 yeara to crack. i pass now but i wonder how much taller/passable i'd be if i started earlier. but ruminating achieves nothing

>>40247889
There is no right side of history on this, unless you plan to trans/detrans/detrans every time the pendulum moves

>>40247889
Your interests and who you can relate to don't matter. Plenty of detransers who transed to fit in and detransed when it didn't work.
Only thing that really matters is if you want the effects of testosterone and have realistic expectations. Can you accept the 'bad' effects, whatever those are to you? Even if they're your most significant changes or they happen right away? Can you accept not passing?

>>40247125
Walking in on a group of transphobic people with your beard and your belly declaring "hey guys I'm female" pisses them off too. Especially if you have male opinions

>>40247663
its not about being dominant
its just horny himbo escapism with a side of findom
im quite happy being an androgynous switch in reality

>>40248171
Weak

>>40247125
Read the wikipedia page I guess there's sources for all the claims and explanation there

>>40247889
>i have a hard enough time relating to other trans men because i see a lot of them as too feminine in their interests and mannerisms.
This will be you next

>>40247878
thank you. it's nice to know that there is someone here who had similar thoughts before transitioning. i'm literally a few days away from starting my T injections, but i've been having these thoughts for a few months now. in a way it's made me want to transition more, but i still struggle. i've been repping for years now.
>>40247979
yes, actually. i can accept not passing, but i do intend to increase my odds by working out. genetically speaking, all the men in my family are super hairy and macho, especially my brother, so i'm not too worried about the T not working. the only bad effect i'm worried about is probably cardiac risk.
>>40248047
yeah i guess so but i've seen a lot of TERFs as of late try to reel us in by calling us girls and calling out every micro feminine thing we do. it's actually pretty fucking misogynistic the way they treat us.

>>40248501
how is this different from "men don't eat soup" and other nonsense men say to each other

holy shit it's 6'3 gigapoon anon

>>40248501
caring what terfs think is right is probably the most fembrained thing ive ever hard

>>40248805
schizos fr

Gaydens, have you ever cheated on your boyfriend? I'm not judging, just asking.

>>40248805
If that's true, then would it help to get on really high levels of testosterone and take HGH to masculinize better? Or does that just fuck you up

>>40249705
no but i'm bpd (not actually) and i go on/off in a relationship constantly and i'm usually looking for someone else the same night we 'break up'
i'm too romantically inclined to actually do anything with someone else though i just set up dating app accounts and skim through profiles and feel visceral disgust at anyone that's not my ex so i've never actually cheated
i have fantasies about dating two guys at once though where we live as a throuple

>>40249705
no unforgivable irrecoverable point of no return sin

>>40249729
HGH won't do anything to you if you're past puberty

>>40248805
Knees separating?

>>40248857
a lot of cis men seem to care, unless you consider gay men fembrained. that's most of male terfs, anyways.

>>40248676
the irony comes from them being radfems, and consider a lot of things expressions of misogyny. if any of the shit they say about trans men was said about them, they wouldn't take it well.

>>40248676
I just crashed riding at night on the road cus sum fucktard doesn't understand how roundabouts work, somehow the damage is minimal.
Fellow poons do vou pursue dangerous hobbies?

>>40250061
gay men are... incredibly fembrained lmao. and the majority of cis men do not even know what terfs are

>>40250285
lick lick lick lick

how are my brothers doing this fine evening??

My bussy could fix all of you

>>40250285
why is your blood so pink
is this pooner blood?
ftms so feminine they be bleeding pink

>>40250285
Here's a bike wound from a year back. Also a car's fault. She didn't stop at a stop sign and the road was gravelly, so I flew into the ground trying to avoid a bike-car collision.

>>40250391
Thats what I would do if Id be able to reach that area

>>40250627
I guess that might be what itll look like tomorrow.
Any injuries on the legs? Skin on the elbow is affected a tad bit for me, main damage is on the knee. Any damage on your bike?

>>40250466
I need to be fixed so bad

>>40250646
you cant lick your knee? maybe its like licking your elbow...

>>40250875
Do you deserve to be fixed?

>>40251260
scawwy...

>>40251260
how does the concave chest thing even happen

>>40251248
Better question, do you deserve to fix me?
>>40251347
Negative muscle

me when i lie to my therapist

You guys seem genuinely more appreciative of a masculine male form than gaygen’s chorus of twinks. Please rate my summer body.

>>40252084
That's because you told gaygen you're a furry bottom. I wish I looked like you man, but not to bottom for other guys.

>>40252084
nice
>>40252104
>furry bottom
based

>t. cis guy

>>40252104
trvke

why aren't my arms growing?

Empty server I don't know how to run
https://discord.gg/PVQYngEd

Threads full of weiner ppl, le trans and otherwise.

>>40252131
Brutal timing
Keep going!

>>40252141
I would rather cis males tour here than MtFs. All women are queens and all but they have the entire board and they only come here to ask benign questions.

>>40252141
i may have a weiner but i'm also a cispoon

>>40252104
I barely ever post, how is my body so recognized that I have lore across gaygen threads now? Either way, I’m not a bottom, I’m a sub. I’m not even really a furry. I just like being treated like a dog in certain ways.

>>40252123
Awoo

>>40252131
Are you actually going to the gym at all? I go only twice a week and get visible gains. Maybe you're not eating enough

>>40253077
what do u do twice a week at the gym

>>40252300
oh!! this is really attractive actually lets recreate picrel

>>40251029
Top of the knee but not certainly not the lower part facing outward

>>40252084
Just the right fat percentage. Nice tits, keep at it

>>40253077
i workout at home, but i cycle on and off of actually doing so

yooo, why are you fags so friendly all the time?

>>40253290
mostly shoulder, upper back, and arm exercises for silhouette.

>>40239256

>>40249857
Why do people act like it's so bad? >>40249782
> have fantasies about dating two guys at once though where we live as a throuple
I want this so badly, but I kept dating cis men and they hate sharing...

>>40254095
Consistency is key

>>40249705
Yeah multiple times, I didn't get enough sex in the relationship so I sought out random dudes to have Sex with

>4yrs no facial hair
>no fat redistribution
>every time I up my dose it starts aromatizing
>no gains despite progressive overload 3x a week minimum
When should I rope

>>40252084
Nice
It's okay if you're a furry bottom

>>40254095
And what do you do at home? Sissy pushups?

Im a god

>>40255379
What made you realize

Alex G's music must be eradicated from the trans male community

>>40255981
Do we have to start and end the eradication at Alex G specifically cuz I have other suggestions

Any doods here in a relationship: how did you meet your s/o? Are dating apps my only option?

>>40256051
List em brother don't hold back
>>40256055
You can meet guys in online games, music concerts, or conventions if you don't like dating apps. Personally I've never had a good match using apps.

>>40256055
they can seem easier or more productive on a surface level cuz it’s easier 2 speedrun the amount of interactions u statistically need to have with randos before you meet someone u actually fw. definitely not the only option but if having a quantity based approach like that is something that works for you just be careful cuz it’s stupid easy to get burnt out that way

>>40256124
Besides the obvious choices (softboi ukulele shit, post 2010’s girlypop, etc) we need to eliminate Redditcore “punk” (Amyl and the Sniffers, Turnstile, anything p4k nerds basedface at for having vaguely political lyrics) and also Tiktok zoomergrind (if I see 1 more Dystopia patch ushanka I will kms). Fauxgaze can stay for now cuz I still kind of like Deafheaven and Trauma Ray but it’s on thin fucking ice

>>40256237
Whew lad... You're deleting our very culture
>post 2010’s girlypop
Meghan Trainor music? Taylor Swift? Or is this code for "Kpop"?

>>40256299
Because you know I'm all about that bass, 'bout that bass, no treble

>>40256299
All of the above and also including but not limited to: Sabrina Carpenter, Ethel Cain, Charli XCX. We stay hating

>>40256237
>Dystopia
Tmw when I liked Dystopia before it spread on Tiktok

>>40255981
whos alex g

>>40256237
Turnstile's great

>>40256237
Wait, what's the relation between Turnstile and pooners?

>>40254287
the fuzzier i get the better

Little tiny cute pooners

>>40255981
had a whole seething retard meltdown when alex g picked up traction on tiktok because i knew the poons would love him

>>40255128
Are you fat?

>>40256055
By going outside

is this gay?

>>40255128
either take aromasin or add masteron (it prevents aromatization and is literally pure dht, you can add as much as your test dosage and maybe a little more)
>>40256055
I send my boyfriend stealthed steroids.

>>40255981
What, I just listned to it and it sounds like random shit that plays on the radio during summer when you sit in the back for hours and start to feel like throwing up.

>>40257183
You're not wrong for doing that. The last straw was seeing Kalvin Garrah show up on my fyp singing one of Alex G's songs.

>>40255981
The only way I know about Alex G is through my brother, who listened to them a lot while going through rehab.

I didnt even know it was associated with liddle pooners because I don't consume trans content at all.

>>40256055
i did the dating app thing for a while, dated women mostly. had a bad experience that turned me off of theymabs, fumbled an mtf goddess along the way.
all of that was pointless as i ended up with my cis male friend of a few years, been dating for over a year now.
so basically: go outside. dating apps are very hit or miss.

>>40257314
sad that i have loose skin on my tummy and will never achieve this

>>40257314
how to lose bodyfat fast? I am 30/35% bodyfat which is fucking with my passing due to feminine fat distribution and i'd want to lose at least 10/15 % off of it.

>>40238992 (OP)
in a fair and just world ogre would fuck off from this gen forever

>>40259110
We are here just to suffer.

My top surgery is tomorrow and I still haven't decided if I want peri or DI and it feels like the hardest choice of my life.

>>40259110
i felt like a bitterpoon for thinking this but the ropefuel is unreal

>>40256055
i met my bf on duolicious

>>40259216
>>40259544
ftms in general are awful at telling trenders or invaders to fuck off. he's got too many gayden simps to fix the problem so nothing's ever gonna change.

>>40260072
it's a public forum

>>40259508
Discuss it with doctors and people who have actually gotten top surgery (Reddit). There's not many here.

>>40260072
I'd rather have ogre here than any of the plap-plappers or anyone who responds to them

>>40260243
i like male attention too much to not respond

>>40260243
i do agree with this at least
>>40260271
think of the optics dood.

>>40260296
opticsfagging on 4chinz are we serious

>>40260243
Idk man he's cut from the same cloth. you do realise he just sees us as women/tomboys right? he's in here because he's a chaser.

>>40260321
yes, because desperate female whores like you are the reason tranny hater has plagued this gen for years

>>40260350
no cis man will ever see you as an equal, you will always be a female with a hole for them to fuck. the best way you'll ever be viewed is as a mutilated woman

>>40260374
trip on ogre

>>40260358
i like how you try to leverage female as an insult like thats not this entire gen other than the people you want to 'kick out'

>>40260374
>no cis man will ever see you as an equal
How can they be equal to us if no vagina....?

>>40260402
i leverage female as an insult because i am female and dysphoric, but at least i'm based in reality and know that i will never be a woman

>>40260350
Is there anyone who doesn't view ftms as women? I don't really care as long as they aren't annoying like the plappers

>>40260430
not based enough in reality to avoid making your dysphoria everyone else's problem though

>>40260446
no, because adult human females are women. you need to wake up and stop throwing your life away for a delusion

>>40260455
if you're offended over factual statements about reality, that's a you problem

>>40260430
i will never be a man** oops oooops i'm shitposting too close to the sun i should start checking my posts for typos

>>40260467
you're the one getting mad about 'females' in your ftm space sister

>>40260457
here's your (you)

>>40260483
no, you retard, i'm a female in a female space trying to free you all from your delusions. i'm not angry, it's nothing personnel, kid

>>40260495
yes i'm sure, so why seethe over me being a whore. i'm a good little girl that loves daddy's attention, as all women should

Is this where the heat is at?

>>40260514
Why are they all looking sad?

>>40260529
high school reunion

>>40260529
Because you're not dating them

>>40260513
you don't have a daddy, that's why you're a worthless low value slut.

>>40260541
Would they date me tho?

>>40260553
i don't have a daddy yet

>>40260565
and you never will. you don't have a father, and no man in his right mind would settle down for something as low value as you

>>40260620
i'm sure you could fix me though, i'm obedient enough and willing to learn from my mistakes

>>40260662
i have a bf whom i love with all my heart. he's the only guy i've ever been with because i'm not a low value slut. i'm going to crawl inside his foreskin and live there forever. i love my bf i love my bf i love my bf i love my bf

>>40260684
open to a third?

>>40260705
if you're willing to detransition and be a woman, maybe. he's straight

>>40260350
man's almost in the same boat, he was just lucky enough to be raised male
i find it weird that he talks about diy so much, but aside from being slightly off topic who cares

>been rubbing one out for hours but still can't cum
augh

>>40260760
is he open to being fixed?

>>40260798
like neutered? probably not

>>40260794
why cant u cum

>>40260889
ssris

>>40260794
We could help you, drop Disc

>>40260926
You should stop taking your medciation

>>40260794
you need penetration from a 6'5 male with an oversized cock

>>40261168
probably true

>>40252137
Bump because frengen is kill

>>40260926
i switched to wellbutrin partially because of this. also because it helped a lot more with tiredness than sertraline did. you should take to your doctor and don't do this >>40261135
going off ssris cold turkey made me try to kill myself

What the fuck am I doing wrong when trying to take measurements for a binder? No matter how I do it, boob and underboob are either the same or 2cm apart, while it looks like my tits are C-D cups. My ribcage is massive, but can it be that weirdly shaped it explains this?

You don't pass until you sneak into Mount Athos

>>40261849
thanks, I think I might try to switch. I feel better than when I wasn't on it but the side effects are pretty terrible. though at least I didn't get fat on it

>>40261993
Already did. Twice. It's not really sneaking. They only check your passport. If it says M, that's good enough.

>>40262109
and the beard?

>>40261993
I think I'll pass on that one bro

>>40256124
Which online games? I mostly play single player. I don't like capeshit but I've considered marvel rivals because I used to have fun with overwatch back in the day.
>>40257303
>>40258396
I do go outside but only to the occasional trans meet up but I'm different from the other poons there usually. Not sure what other social things to go to, there doesn't seem to be much in my area.

Does anyone else self isolate on purpose?

Today is my 29th birthday and 10 year anniversary of starting T

>>40263370
be honest, do you regret starting t by now? how's the hairline looking?

>>40263370
Kurama mention?!1?
>>40263484
If they regret it why would they be on it for 10 years

>>40263484
my hairline hasn't changed, no men in my family are bald either

I only regret not starting sooner, I was in a suicidal spiral around that time and transitioning probably saved my life

>>40263539
the original kuramamoder. I still post here once a blue moon

>>40263281
I'm not particularly social it happens by accident

>>40263281
You may have what's called a schizoid personality

>>40263761
wanting to be alone does not make one schizoid don't help retards self-diagnose

i really am the worst

>>40263539
i regret it after 8 years desu. but i also legally couldn't consent when i started.
>>40263560
jealous, what's your ethnicity? the white race is doomed to failed when all the moids go bald by 22.
>>40263761
holy retard. touch some grass

saw a girl with snake bites at the supermarket
thought "who does he remind me of"
I'm hanging round too many pooners, I'm gendering people according to their piercings

>>40264057
kek i do this too

>>40263999
>ethnicity
I'm a pale ass white honkey bread cracker, balding isn't really a racial thing. usually if your grandfather was bald your odds of going bald are 90%, but both my grandfather's still had hair

>>40264202
what if one of your grandfathers have hair and you don't know what the other one looks like

>my female friend is telling me she and her husband are trying for a baby now
>just imagine my friend getting giga plapped hard every night

>>40264355
hot. tell her that you don't believe her and ask her to send proof

>>40264355
i wish i had a dick

>>40238992 (OP)
idk why i can't stop cutting. at what point do i drag myself to the psych ward

>>40264591
Men don't cut themselves. What kind of retarded ass womanbrained problem is that

>>40264591
there was a guy i met on here that cut himself and wrote my name in his blood. if youre the guy reading this, hi i miss you and i hope you're doing better. i'll always love you but i hope you get the help you need. i'm sorry that i couldn't help you.

>>40264675
sounds hot desu, wish someone would do that for me

I don't know how to get through/over my phobia of dogs. I do not understand people who do not experience this. It makes me want to kill myself.

>>40264838
just don't be scared 4hed

>>40264838
dom a puppygirl

>>40264638
very original comment, thank you
>>40264675
that isn't me. but i hope he got help too. i'm sorry you had to experience something like that though

>>40264838
If you don’t understand their behavioural cues just study up.

>>40264355
>sister womb is dead
>somehow mine is still fertile
>she asks if I will inject her husband's semen into my womb for 40,000$

>>40265400
fuck your sister's husband

>>40264910
I'm scared of dogs getting loose. It's not so bad if they're on a leash, I just deal with it. I schiz out when I hear jingling it's nuts. It's been so much worse after I got chased recently. There's so many neglected dogs that just get left is yards with shitty fencing. 90% of dog owners should not own dogs.

>>40250285
I do rock climbing, without health insurance. The real risk is to my finances.
>>40250627
Biking by roads is a death wish, most dangerous hobbies don't involve other people actively trying to kill you
>>40252084
This is peak form. Incredibly buff but still incredibly squishy looking. Handleable, malleable.
>>40252131
This is definitely a macro issue, no?
>40253290
Add decline situps to the sharms for peak lazy gym
>40254124
Networking
>>40256237
Can I add Sleep Token onto this? It deserves special designation
>40258469
Can't you just fill the skin with muscle? You can grow past your current size eventually surely

>>40260514
wtf is this shit

>>40260514
pooner cultural production is fucked will we ever create anything of value

>>40260514
funny premise ruined by poony artstyle

>>40259110
My opinion on him has changed drastically since I learned he wasn’t a exceptionally jacked pooner but fuck man no one else in here can even nut up and go to a gym for five seconds, let alone admit they’re being poondosed by Planned Parenthood. If you want him out you gotta step up your roidposting game

>>40265686
Only when all of the not fembrained ftms finally start making art instead of the fujopoons who watch bluey