How do I transition if I'm an unemployed 30 year old male who lives with his parents and doesn't have a car and is severely mentally ill?

>Inb4 get a job
I'm retarded and keep turning down jobs because I'm afraid of moving out and transitioning. I quit my last job after a mental breakdown I had one day while commuting

steal mom's lipstick and do selfies inappropriately to further the T cause negativrly

>>40245620 (OP)
accept you aren't tomoko and get a job

your thirty (30) years old. you have no business transitioning. just keep living as a man like you have been for decades.

>>40245620 (OP)
You don’t

>>40245640
/thread

>>40245620 (OP)
Yeah maybe you should just stay as you are...

>>40245640
Yeah I'm looking for another job that's the easy part
I keep getting jobs and opportunities to move out and keep screwing them up

>>40245653
>>40245669
Sorry anon. Just because I wasted my life doesn't mean I want to keep wasting it

>>40245682
I'm miserable as fuck and want out of this loop

>>40245620 (OP)
how old do you look?
>captcha
HON!!

>>40245781

>>40245768
>Just because I wasted my life doesn't mean I want to keep wasting it
I’m just giving you a practical answer. You don’t transition if you have no job, car, and still live at home. It’s not possible.

>>40245768
Maybe transition is not what will help you to feel better, it may in fact make it worse, and you could end up killing yourself :(
Do you have strong dysphoria?

>>40245620 (OP)
i literally have like an 86 iq and manage to hold a job, have a car and get all my medical stuff done. you're just lazy and scared.

>>40245781
>how old do you look?
Idk like 30?

>>40245793
>You don’t transition if you have no job, car, and still live at home.
Yeah ofc I need all of those things. Job is the easiest one to get

>>40245800
>Maybe transition is not what will help you to feel better, it may in fact make it worse, and you could end up killing yourself :(
I think not living off my parents and being on HRT might be better than continuing to waste my life like this

>Do you have strong dysphoria?
Maybe it's not that strong if I haven't been able to transition

>>40245835
>you're just lazy and scared.
Yes I don't know how the fuck to fix that

>>40245882
u have to really want it and i guess u dont.

>>40245882
why would transitioning mean not wasting your life anymore?
life generally starts getting better for men at 30 and worse for women at 30 unless they have kids

I like how people don't want to help this anon improve their life because they're scared anon will be ugly and that this will inspire someone to post a mean thing about trannies on twitter.

>>40246047
Transition is not always an improvement on someones life, it depends on the person

>>40246047
its the way op has framed it. its less the age and more their attitude. ive seen lots of threads about 30+ reppers being supported because they had a different attitude

>>40245887
Ok but I want to want it. I don't want to just keep crying in my room over being a failure

>>40245926
>why would transitioning mean not wasting your life anymore?
Because it would mean I'm not rotting living with my parents hopping between jobs

>life generally starts getting better for men at 30
I don't even believe that's true but if it were idk if applies to unemployed 30 year old NEET reppers.

>>40246047
>because they're scared anon will be ugly
I am ugly but I won't girlmode. I just want to take control of my life

>>40246103
Yeah most 30 year old reppers are probably normal adults who don't need to do all the life shit one has to figure out in their 20s

>>40246121
> I am ugly but I won't girlmode. I just want to take control of my life
You really need to not transition... find control in other areas, learn to meditate or something idk

>>40246103
I think this Puckposter is entirely motivated by what I said though.

>>40245620 (OP)
Normally you're supposed to grow out of the autistic NEET lifestyle anon. Genuinely get a job

>>40246121
i'm a retarded failure and still managed to make myself do stuff to get it.

>>40246151
>You really need to not transition...
Why not?

>>40246204
>Normally you're supposed to grow out of the autistic NEET lifestyle anon.
Yes I'm trying to do that at 30
>Genuinely get a job
Yeah I will I just want to move out and take HRT this time instead of rotting at a job for a few years again

>>40246250
You can't be a retarded failure if you can drive and live on your own

>>40246288
> Why not?
You seem like the kind of person that would lazily transition just to feel some kind of mentally unwell brainworm, still be unhappy, realise it did not give you the feelings you sought, and then I worry you may kill yourself :(

>>40246189
it does appear that way
>>40246121
you can learn those things in the meantime though, though i know it might mean feeling forced to cope in ways that feel counter to your gender identity

>>40245768
You will still be miserable just with cone tits
Fix your life first and then reevaluate

>>40246360
I would feel less pathetic at least

>>40246415
>>40246433
Transitioning and having conetits is the reason I want to fix my life
The only reason I'm not happy NEETing with my parents is because taking HRT is the one thing I can't do under their roof

>>40246498
> I would feel less pathetic at least
I doubt that, if you ended up feeling worse after transitioning because it was not right for you you'll feel pretty pathetic then

>>40246616
Anon I don't think I can feel any more pathetic than I do right now
Overcoming 30 years of failure, moving out, living on my own, get laser, grow some conetits, and 5 years from now just be a 35 year old functional manmoder would be a dream for me

>>40246692
Transition will not make up for 30 years of failure, it may also be a nightmare for you, rather than a dream

>>40246791
Maybe not but I'm not sure if living the exact same way will be any better

>>40246851
There are many things you can do to make meaningful improvements to your life other than transition, that should honestly be the last thing to consider, work on the other stuff first

>>40246894
>There are many things you can do to make meaningful improvements to your life other than transition
Anon what I've been saying is that all of those things are just part of transitioning.
The main reason I even want a job, car, or place is to transition. If it weren't for that I wouldn't even be applying for jobs right now

>>40247014
Then what it sounds like is you have become blinded and obsessed with the idea of transition, there is no world in which you cannot improve on those things as you are now...

>>40247083
>obsessed with the idea of transition,
It's the biggest reason why I want to not be so pathetic and scared.
My parents would let me be a manchild forever as long as I can pay my own bills, but I can't troon out as I am now

Wow you guys are right, you wind up just gatekeeping when the situation looks bad, when the result of this transition might not work well for the person...!!!

Do you understand what's really going on? You fundamentally still aren't sure if transgender people should exist at all, that's why you can't recommend this life easily. You're displaying how little you really believe in being trans here...

>>40245620 (OP)
Ignore everyone else itt. Use any cash you've got leftover to get on lenajuice and maybe be a little nicer to yourself. If you've ever loved anyone in the past, like a friend or a mentor or a lover, imagine that they're in this situation. How would you treat them? Certainly better than you treat yourself, I imagine. I dont really think anybody deserves to fester in self-hatred. Its very hard, but i beleive in you, and anyone else in a similar prediciment who is reading this.

>>40245620 (OP)
>How do I transition if I'm an unemployed 30 year old male who lives with his parents and doesn't have a car and is severely mentally ill?
don't. we already have enough ugly and mentally ill trannies, so just fuck off.

>>40247220
I don't believe in being trans, I believe in treating dysphoria, and for some HRT could end up making their situation much worse

>>40247224
I can get a job and I'm working on that. I just am a retard who doesn't know how to stop being scared of transitioning

>>40247269
What do you think would happen if I took HRT

>>40247713
I don't know you, so I can't really tell, but you mentioned being 30, and that is kinda old to traansition and expect to be happy with the results if passing is a goal.
You could end up looking and feeling like a looser with cone tits and not much else.

>>40247749
Dont listen to this faggot anon OP. You might end up being a loser with conetits but at least you’re a loser with conetits and not actively being savaged and mindraped by testosterone in your bloodstream. If you have dysphoria take HRT

>>40247749
At this point the only goal I want to strive for is living on my own and manmoding

>>40247826
I'm a loser but I just want to be a functional adult loser with tits at this point

>>40247713
Dont listen to them, theyre all psuedo-hussies going through a trutrans phase. You'll feel a lot more alive if you get on hrt. No one thing can fix a person's life, but you will be much happier

Does OP even have dysphoria? Or are they just a freak with brain worms?

>>40245835
86 iq normie = more employable than 120 iq with severe adhd, anxiety, autism

>>40247872
>You'll feel a lot more alive if you get on hrt.
Once I get a job how am I supposed to get myself to move out and take HRT if I have been trying to do it for years and failing?

>>40247887
>Does OP even have dysphoria?
Probably not but what's the difference between dysphoria and whatever I'm feeling?
>Or are they just a freak with brain worms?
Could be since I'm using transition as an excuse to try and stop being a manchild. It could just be one elaborate cope but I also genuinely want to get on HRT

>>40247924
I'm employable, it's everything past that which I'm struggling with

>>40248178
You have too much free time to get in your own head and hyper fixate on stuff that doesn’t matter like your gender or sexuality or whatever, instead of focusing on the more immediate problems like finding the means to support yourself.

>>40248178
> Probably not but what's the difference between dysphoria and whatever I'm feeling?
> Could be since I'm using transition as an excuse to try and stop being a manchild. It could just be one elaborate cope but I also genuinely want to get on HRT
yup, you should NEVER get onto HRT it would be the worst thing for you...

>>40248201
>You have too much free time to get in your own head and hyper fixate on stuff that doesn’t matter like your gender or sexuality or whatever,
I hyperfixated on it even when I was full time. It matters to me

>instead of focusing on the more immediate problems like finding the means to support yourself.
Yes anon I am literally looking for a job now. I've applied to a shitload of places today and have an interview coming up
And then I just want to use that money to leave my parents, grow some conetits and get laser

>>40248218
>yup, you should NEVER get onto HRT it would be the worst thing for you...
What is going to happen if I do?

>>40248347
Ngl, given everything you have said, you'll probably end up roping if you got onto HRT

>>40248376
Why? Suppose I make it and get out of my current situation. What exactly would lead to me roping?

>>40248411
You seem to not have dysphoria, getting HRT will give you dysphoria about the changes happening, some changes are irreversible, you seem weak, I don't think you can handle that

>>40248441
>getting HRT will give you dysphoria about the changes happening, some changes are irreversible
Which changes do you think I would rope over?

>you seem weak,
I'm trying to be stronger...
Pretty obvious that I am. But plenty of weak people don't rope

>>40248486
> Which changes do you think I would rope over?
I'm not you, but if I were to guess it wouldnt be any seperate change that would make you consider roping, it would be the overall feeling that you are doing something wrong with your body, dysphoria is a horrible condition, and if you don't already have it HRT could give it to you in reverse of how you think you have it now

>>40248554
>it would be the overall feeling that you are doing something wrong with your body,
But I could just stop then? For permanent effects I get tits (which I want), and I'll lose fertility (which I don't care about), right?

>>40245620 (OP)
This same/similar situation happens to a lot of people. Are you on meds for your mental health condition? Are you sure that you want to transition? After moving out and making a few other life improvements you may have a huge glow up and no longer feel the desire to transition.

>>40245620 (OP)
Disclaimer: I'm somewhat of a pinkpiller and would thus generally recommend that you ignore all of the chauvinistic trutrans in this thread an get on HRT to see if you like it or not.
HOWEVER: There's one red flag I'm noticing: Your self-doubt. As a late transitioner myself, I never had that. The moment I realized I was trans, I immediately started transitioning. Sure, I did my due diligence and researched the heck out of everything, but whatever doubt people tried instilling in me could not overpower my immense desire to transition.
I never asked anyone online, nor did I talk to a medical professional beforehand. I knew what I had to do and got to work - quietly & completely on my own.
Whilr I still think you should transition, keep this is mind. I too underestimated the massive undertaking it was going to be. But I accepted the consequences of potentially losing everything and everyone, as well as potentially committing suicide, because the outlook was just as bad if I didn't troon.

>>40247014
I mean if transitioning is what motivates you then I guess that's what motivates you, and you are arguing as to why you SHOULD transition. Sounds like you kinda wanna do it to me?

>>40249028
Wanting to do it, needing to do it, and should you do it are all very different things

>>40249053
I say live like you will, but wait on the HRT for a year. If you still want HRT after a year and you got a job and started taking care of yourself, then go for it.

>>40248832
>Your self-doubt.
Yeah :(

>But I accepted the consequences of potentially losing everything and everyone,
Which is why I need to get away from my parents

>>40249067
I just want to set myself up to take HRT. If I don't want HRT I'm just going to move back in with my parents anyways

>>40249116
That's a good plan, live like you are setting up for HRT. If all systems are go, and you still want it, yay! If you change your mind, now you have a good life anyways.

>>40249152
>If all systems are go, and you still want it, yay!
Yeah I don't know how to get there. I can get a job but when I try and move out or take HRT I freeze up
Idk what the fuck it's gonna take for me to just do it
>If you change your mind, now you have a good life anyways.
If I change my mind I have no reason to live on my own

>>40249321
If your so convinced you wont change your mind that doesn't change the fact that it would still be an option. Idk why you keep freezing up that sounds like your own problem, but get on with it if you want to transition so badly.

>>40249116
honestly if you want to go the classical way, do RLE. Order women's clothes now (please not maid uniforms, skirts or other AGP stuff), put them on, go outside and non-HRT honmode. Come out and transition socially to a few friends.
If you can do this and keep doing this for, let's say, two months and still want to get on HRT. Do it!
If you cannot live with the stares, the misgendering, if you cannot accept that you'll most likely be a gigahon and that there's a 99% chance you'll need FFS and multiple other expensive surgeries to get even close to passing, I would be cautious.
Transitioning to manmode is hilariously stupid. I hope that nobody started their transition to manmode, but to be a woman. Manmoding is simply where the majority of us unfortunate end up.

>>40249358
well why do you get scared and freeze up?

stop using my likeness. you will be killed and castrated for it

>>40249358
>Idk why you keep freezing up that sounds like your own problem,
Idk how to fix it that's why I'm 30 and live with my parents

>>40249376
Nice try anon. I'm not going to honmode at 30 without HRT, that sounds even stupider than manmoding.

>>40249390
Moving out and getting on HRT are both huge changes. And at 30 it's even more embarrassing and creepy to transition

>>40249321
therapy can help you figure this out not 4chan

>>40249438
Well get a job, and I guess after that you just need to nut up. YOLO and all that.

>>40249438
> I'm not going to honmode at 30 without HRT, that sounds even stupider than manmoding.
you don't want it bad enough. you're not dysphoric enough to NEED to do this to feel at least 5% like yourself instead of 0%.
I'm the one who wrote this >>40248832
and I retract my suggestion. Do not transition. Do not get on HRT.
(and I think we should bring back RLE in general)

>>40249501
This
> (and I think we should bring back RLE in general)
also based

>>40249501
i mean depending on how well it works the RLE of being completely off HRT is going to suck more than it would if HRT does work.

>>40249520
I do think you should wait and prepare for it though, and yeah socially transitioning around people you trust might be a good thing to try

>>40249471
>you just need to nut up.
How tho

>>40249501
>(and I think we should bring back RLE in general)
You just want to see a bunch of non-HRT hons get hatecrimed

>>40249520
RLE at my age is just being a middle aged crossdresser without HRT. What's the point?

>>40249544
>socially transitioning around people you trust
That's like the worst idea. I get to destroy my social life and maybe get fired from my job to not be on hormones? Why do you think I'm trying to live alone and manmode?
RLE without HRT would be a fucking disaster

>>40249520
go ahead and label me faketrans agp, but I think if you're truly dysphoric, honmoding should provide more relief than manmoding (whether you're on HRT or not).
Manmoding is just repping with extra steps. It solves very little.
>>40249580
> muh le hatecrime
stfu I don't care if someone else rapes, kills and leaves me in a ditch. At least I can look in the mirror and see something that resembles what I think I'm supposed to look like. Worth. it. every. fucking. day.

>>40249580
idk if you have anyone who wouldn't hate you for being a tranny you could try being a girl around them, the whole point is that it wouldn't ruin your life like doing it in public would. As for nutting up, well you tell me I don't know what is so scary about it to you.

>>40249630
the goal should be to socially transition but I think its ok if you keep girl time to yourself for a while

>>40249649
> keep girl time to yourself for a while
yo girl time is literally every second of my life in my mind. the more i can present this way and try to convince other people to see me this way the better.

>>40249683
Yeah but like, practically its also good if people dont think your a freak.

>>40249702
ppl have seen me as a freak since the day I was born... putting on women's clothing and honmoding is among the least embarassing things I've done in my life.
and it just feels great to be myself desu.

>>40249630
>Manmoding is just repping with extra steps. It solves very little.
It would still be a massive improvement

>>40249635
>idk if you have anyone who wouldn't hate you for being a tranny you could try being a girl around them,
If people around me tolerated trannies I wouldn't need to get away from them
>the whole point is that it wouldn't ruin your life like doing it in public would.
Being out to even one person may as well be public

>I don't know what is so scary about it to you.
Moving out or transitioning? Moving out is scary to me because I'm mentally stunted. Transitioning is scary because I know how the world feels about trannies

>>40249733
ok but your shamelessness isn't because of dysphoria that's just being a brave jackass

>>40249747
well you want both, you can either do that or not do that. Sorry you don't have any friends or anything to try trannyism on, maybe after you move out you can find some place to try it and if it works there you can get your HRT.

>>40249802
>>40249747


I'll say it again
In the land of the free
Use your freedom of choice
Freedom of choice!

>>40245620 (OP)
Get mental health services, depending on country. Get job. possibly online work from home.

>>40249835
>In the land of the free
Until Trump decides troons don't get to be part of it

>>40249874
>Get mental health services, depending on country.
I'm in the US, is this good for me if I want to troon?

>Get job. possibly online work from home.
I am applying to jobs. Work from home would be nice but then I would still need to find a new home

>>40249757
well being a brave jackass goes a long way to alleviating my dypshoria
>>40249747
jesus fucking christ just troon and stop clogging up this board with your pathetic whining!

>>40250123
being a brave jackass is awesome, its just not for all of us lol

>>40250151
well it's not fun for me either it's just how I slipped outta my mom's coochie

>>40250184
i still think its admirable even if it sucks for you

>>40250123
>jesus fucking christ just troon and stop clogging up this board with your pathetic whining!
I'm trying to troon I want to stop being pathetic

>>40250151
>being a brave jackass is awesome, its just not for all of us lol
OP here, I admire you for it. If I were brave I would have gone on HRT by now

>>40245620 (OP)
Dont

>>40247220
If op wants to be hugboXXed groomed by the tranny cult, go to reddit - they will tell u to troon at any age lmfao go look at em tho, dew it op.