>the americans have just voted to nuke their economy
>the tariffs werent bad enough, they need to absolutely sink their fucking nation with no hope of recovery
>americans are going to be dirt, piss, shit and grit poor in the next 10 years and there is nothing that can be done to stop the damage until the midterms
>there will likely be more terrible fucking policies which brutalise the economy before then
you arent planning on staying are you, anon? youre not just gonna sit there and wait to get too poor to afford even chinese HRT, are you? or worse, get stripped of citizenship and deported by a government thats quite literally stripped every official out and replaced them with yes men and fully intends to ignore the courts.

non-american anons, how do you feel about americas place in the world being demoted to backwards third worlder religious hellhole?

>>40281225 (OP)
i can't wait for my irredentist backwater shit european sub-country to actually become vaguely relevant in comparison to a shrinking us post-collapse

>>40281225 (OP)
I, for one, will choose to embrace the upcoming Red Century; it has been a long time coming and well-deserved. This is simply a temporary moment in a late-stage empire before it crumbles. Soon, will Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia will rule us all anyways, and the proles will be happy.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

>>40281225 (OP)
lol

>>40281225 (OP)
>you arent planning on staying are you, anon?
I'm too broke to leave. If I magically won the lottery or got a giant windfall of money, I'd be out of here without hesitation, but as it stands now, I'm too broke and not a skilled enough worker to actually immigrate to anywhere.

>>40281294
thats a lack of ambition, anon. use your feminine wiles to convince a guy to take you in elsewhere, or sell what you need to in order to make the money to move, or illegally migrate, or apply for asylum.

>>40281225 (OP)
As an american repper I am just using this as an excuse to keep repping because I'm too stupid to take HRT
>you arent planning on staying are you, anon?
Anon I'm a repper. If I'm too afraid of getting HRT I am too afraid to leave the country

>>40281294
I am a skilled worker who is just too stupid to know where to immigrate and I'm afraid of planes

>>40281313
rip reppoid

i am not looking forward to it

>>40281340
why not?

>>40281225 (OP)
Retards like you have been saying this kind of thing since 1776.
Trump’s presidency is going to come and go, and in the end Americans will still be richer and far more privileged than those in Euroland. What’s more, we’ll still emerge from Trump’s presidency stronger, in spite of all of his retardation.
Cry.

>>40282066
this is what americans actually believe

>>40282066
I wanna believe you anon, but I'm so scared that this is just the start to something absolutely terrible about to happen. I hope that in 3 years, I'm laughing my ass off at how stupid and paranoid I was right now, because the alternatives are so so much worse.

>>40282091
He is right you know.

>>40282091
IF TOMORROW ALL THE THINGS WERE GONE I'D WORKED FOR ALL MY LIFE
AND I HAD TO START AGAIN WITH JUST MY CHILDREN AND MY WIFE
I'D THANK MY LUCKY STARS TO BE LIVIN' HERE TODAY
'CAUSE THE FLAG STILL STANDS FOR FREEDOM, AND THEY CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY

>>40282138
he really isnt though

>>40282142
have you not noticed, anon? it isnt?

>>40281225 (OP)
Anyone who's American and has the means to leave should do so. Unfortunately most of us don't.

>>40282066
>we’ll still emerge from Trump’s presidency stronger
American here, this is peak fucking delusion.
It's only half a year in and we are already so much worse off.
And we were worse off after his first term.

>>40282178
go where? to the European caliphate?

>>40282199
are you that delusional that you think this is real?

>>40282199
Not you, no.
You're too far gone clearly.

>>40282229
these colors don't run

>>40281225 (OP)
I can't leave, too poor. I don't even have a passport and if I did, nothing would change. I'm the exact type of person that the government would favor, white cis guy, but even I feel like we're at a weird point and I don't like the idea of being stuck here...

Even if I could leave, I feel like being an American would make half the world hate me. I don't wanna be one of those jackasses who shows up and annoys everyone.

>>40281225 (OP)
>non-american anons, how do you feel about americas place in the world being demoted to backwards third worlder religious hellhole?
demoted? that's what america has been for as long as i've been old enough to be aware of it's existence on the wrong side of the atlantis

im too poor and have no passport

>>40282066
>Americans will still be richer and far more privileged than those in Euroland
LMFAO americans are already less free and poorer than europoids. nobody here has fucking twi jobs and still risks going homeless if they get ill. peak delusion

>>40282377
but can you deny the holocaust?

>>40282330
you could just flee, anon.

>>40282399
peak american freedom right here

>>40281319
IWNBAW

i don't think americans will be poor just slighty less wealthy than before
it's too big to fail anyway it just won't be number one

>>40282142
>THE FLAG STILL STANDS FOR FREEDOM, AND THEY CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY
They may not be able to take it away, but hoo boy we have done a spectacular job of giving it away.
>>40282377
You have to understand, the 'education' system here and the 'free press' deliberately brainwash these people to believe that everything here is amazing and people hate us because we're just too cool rather than hating us because we're a pack of delulu morons who send our military and intelligence services all around the world to brutalize anyone who dares to stand up to our megacorps. Only those few of us who take an interest in the world outside our borders come to know the truth.

>>40282458
>Too big to fail
Normally yes, since we usually have allies willing to help us out, but we burnt so many bridges that its not gonna work out like that anymore.
My current theory is that there's a high chance the United States with Balkanize and go from one big country to a cluster fuck with red states and blue states dividing up as needed, maybe some relocation in certain areas.

>>40282091
Go read the following figures and then get back to me:
>Inflation adjusted GDP growth since 2015
>Net adjusted household disposable income per hours worked
>Food spending as % of household expenditures
>House price-to-income ratio
I believe it because it's true.
>>40282188
>It's only half a year in and we are already so much worse off.
In what way? Consumer prices have stayed pretty still, economic and stock market growth is continuing and unemployment is shrinking.
Despite Trump's best efforts the US economy isn't stopping. In 4 years I wouldn't be surprised if the US economy is bigger and better, and once the next administration removes the trade barriers Trump has put up, things will only get better.
>we were worse off after his first term.
There was a global pandemic going on.
>>40282377
>LMFAO americans are already less free and poorer than europoids.
Americans have more money to throw around, and we spend a far smaller share of it on things like food and housing relative to other western countries. How exactly does that make us poorer?
>risks going homeless if they get ill
Only 3.4% of the US population is uninsured. What you're describing is seriously rare.
Also, the US has a lower homelessness rate than the UK, Albania, France, Germany, Greece, Luxembourg, Lativa, Germany, Serbia, Sweden, Austria, the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

>>40282677
your assertion is obviously contrary to all immediately observable truth. even if all those figures looked good, it would only mean theyre somehow irrelevant to the prosperity of the actual american people.

>>40281225 (OP)
Being poor is a good thing, because it will restore our, uh, Christian values and work ethic, or something, idk

>>40282687
lol

>>40282687
we are so well off our doomer countrymen have to do mental gymnastics to figure out how to make it look bad

>>40282712
>mental gymnastics
>observe the loss of eggs

>>40282726
muh eggs ahhhh oh wait I have eggs in my fridge rn false alarm

>>40282778
and it only cost you $30

>>40281225 (OP)
HOW DO I GET OUT OF HERE


GET ME THE FUCK OUT

>>40281225 (OP)
I might just kms. There's no hope and I can't live without hrt.

I'm going to buy weed and dissociate this whole weekend, and I'll make plans next week. But for now I'm just going to get high as fuck and forget about this nightmare for a bit.

GOD HELP US ALL.

>>40282677
the dollar has tanked 15%

>>40282853
why choose inaction over fixing your problems?

>>40282821
*hug*

you're not alone

>>40281225 (OP)
europeans be like
> told you so. your society sucks.

>>40282865
because my mind needs a rest. I've done a lot this week, just let me enjoy this weekend. These might be my last months on earth.

>>40282882
enjoy, nonny

>>40282888
thank you. I pray for all of our futures.

trump needs to get in contact with other countries to arrange for them letting in lgbt people so he can get rid of us and we can leave peacefully and legally

>>40282950
he's not going to do that anon. He only cares about his billionaire buddies. Common folk like us can rot and die I guess. This is what Americans voted for, hope they're happy.

>>40282965
he can get so many good boy points with his nazi base by expelling us

>>40282973
it's over anon, he doesn't care.

>>40282862
The USD is down less because of a lack of confidence in the continued success of the US economy and more-so because investors are unsure of where how a move away from global trade will affect the USD's position as the global reserve currency.
Bond yields and stock prices are a far better indicator of investor confidence in the United States.
Even so, the fact that investors think there is risk doesn't mean anything is guaranteed. In fact, I'd argue it is fairly certain that Trump's trade policy will die with his presidency. It's all super unpopular.

>>40282780
It cost me like $5 per dozen and I have a preference for the pricier organic ones instead of bottom tier. Do you even care that you are delusional? Honest question.

>>40283094
i dont believe you

>>40282677
>using a measure that deducts taxes
That's crazy how with only a 13% lower net income the Germans manage to have lower rent, vastly cheaper healthcare, a robust public transit system, and substantially better unemployment benefits. But America has a lot of aircraft carriers and shit in its streets from the homeless people so god bless the land of the free I guess.

>>40282882
relax this weekend, but Monday morning start planning how you’re gonna ensure your own survival

>>40283094
Oh that's really close to the price of eggs where I live anon!

Why do you all think one orange man is gonna have the power to ruin everything. Ya he's gonna make things a lil rougher for us all but there has been plenty of shit that has happened like this in the past yet we are still here. He's gonna run his course and things will go back to being slightly shitty likes its always been.

>>40283551
>the economy

>>40282677
is that graph adjusted for medical costs, transportation costs, housing, etc.? us is a very high cost of living country where social services are constantly under attack, if you're not a skilled worker in the middle class your quality of life is much worse than it could be elsewhere

>>40283568
We are not at great depression lvs yet. People should be counting their lucky stars that it isn't threw all this. People who complain about the economy are also the ones who usually never know how to budget threw hard times, waste all their money on junk or just don't have a good relationship with their family. Aka just about a good 85% of posters here.

>>40282677
>Consumer prices have stayed pretty still, economic and stock market growth is continuing and unemployment is shrinking.
Bruh Im a wagie and Ive spent the past fuckin week doing nothing but increasing prices on shit.

>>40281225 (OP)
God help America
For no one else can

>>40281225 (OP)
i'm prob dying guess i'm a lucky one

>>40286531
rip

I'm a coastal elite so I'll be fine

>>40289398
pfft

>>40281225 (OP)
The eu is much worse economically
the eu has much worse healthcare (esp for trans stuff)
I wish I was born in the usa legit, I am jealous of american trannies ngl

>>40291492
that is to say, I want to date a cute american software engineer transbian that uses nixos

>>40291492
>>40291510
you are delusional

>>40281225 (OP)
i'm running away and moving to finland to be with my bf. hopefully going to university there will also make immigration easier, i need to get off this sinking ship that is america before i'm pulled down with it

>>40281225 (OP)
european here
its funny and im excited for america to fall
chinese century <3

>>40291492
>the eu has much worse healthcare (esp for trans stuff)
Even though I really like living in the US, I don't know if agree on the healthcare point.
I will say that trans stuff is a lot easier in the US though. Much less gatekeeping, and customs is lax enough that DIY HRT is easily available.

>>40282066
America has been going down the drain since 9/11, Trump is just the dying gasps of a declining empire. I've seen how stupid and hateful this country is my entire life.

>>40281225 (OP)
>how do you feel about americas place in the world being demoted to backwards third worlder religious hellhole?
?? when was it not already that?