>feminine gay men that want access to ""straight"" men

> Excited about actually being a woman

Seems pretty simple to me

hsts are homophobic flamers who think they are better than other gay men and want to escape homophobia by submitting to gender roles

HSTS = Homosexual Transsexual
Being homosexual and attracted to men means you are a man, but being attracted to the idea of oneself as a woman is something most cis women experience.

>>40283734 (OP)
3 reasons why hsts feels more trutrans than agp:

1. hussies transition earlier therefore look better and halo effect applies

2. hussies are more sociable and that makes it easier for them to avoid the "creepy male" reputation

3. agp is seen as a male perversion

>>40283734 (OP)
neither AGP nor HSTS as motivations for transition are trutrans lmfao the typology is stupid

Idk the more I think about it the more it seems the hsts=trutrans perspective comes from being hung up on gender somehow being connected to who you want to fuck.
So obviously liking men=girl and just ignore literally everything else??

This narrative also plays into the “perverted men playing dress up!!11!!” thing with fetishist and actual trannies being thrown in the same mental basket.
-decades of propaganda have affected everybody’s thinking to some degree and there are obviously people here with internalized transphobia.

Idk the typology is stupid and made up anyway.

https://unsee,cc/album#DqKjdNALKvqC

Niggas will lie to me and say my grotesque dick is actually feminine

>>40283734 (OP)
gay men were seen as naturally less masculine and their sexuality was assumed to be unfixable so transitioning to a woman wasn't a net loss, in fact it might be considered a positive in maintaining social order by preventing visible homosexuality (a la iran)

whereas agp men would be seen as normal heterosexual males who are simply indulging in fetish behavior and potentially preying on women. essentially, a creep and a pervert as opposed to a failed male from birth.

>>40283812
>hussies are more sociable
hussies are even more autistic than agps are
believing putting on a dress means you fuck straight men is the most retarded belief possible

>>40283887
i fuck a straight man and ive never even worn a dress

>>40283911
you are a coping homosexual man at best
the straight men you fuck are other coping lying homosexuals

>>40283924
just one straight man, who has given me no reason to believe he's gay

hsts: naturally femenine, wants to be the female in the relationship attracting men, don't have weird ideas of what being a woman is and doesn't question if she is one or not. She is not thinking everyday "im a woman", she naturally is one

cis girls: naturally femenine, wants to be the female in the relationship attracting men, don't have weird ideas of what being a woman is and doesn't question if she is one or not. She is not thinking everyday "im a woman", she naturally is one

transbian agps: sociallly read as a failed male, "thinks(whatever that means) that she a woman because somehow romantizes girls(porn and anime ones)" need to force to everyone that she is a girl, naturally male brained in personality, socially and phisically. Have autistic radical ideas of what a woman is and why she is a valid one

Seems pretty simple to me

>>40283984
you want to believe straight acting gay men are straight so you feel less bad about being gay
trannies are ashamed homosexuals spreading anti homosexual shame to others with a dangerous socially contagious castration cult

>>40284503
im not homophobic i just don't want to date a gay man. i don't think it's necessarily transphobic for someone to not wanna date me.

>>40284855
you are homophobic, that's WHY you transitioned
castration makes your horny fade into the background so you feel less guilty about it

>>40283734 (OP)
HSTS isn't more trutrans.
There are 2 reasons that's the prevailing narrative:
1. litetal autists who think flamers resemble women keep perpetuating it.
2. chasers who want trannies to top them realize gay men are more likely to do that, so they put down AGPs who'll never top them.
AGPs actually care about passing and living as women, they voice train, they're the ones who get srs.

>>40283734 (OP)
AGPs get hated on more because they're real women deep inside, they soulpass so hard it makes society apply misogyny turned up to eleven on them, that's the truth.

>>40285252
>gay men have female souls
>no this is not a homophobic castration cult

Exclusively androphilic agp is the most oppressed group

>>40285267
AGPs are not gay males, AGPs are either attracted to women or bi.

>>40285303
>or bi
>ok I want men to fuck me in the ass but im not like the other fags

>>40285148
i transitioned due to dysphoria, which i had long before i realized i was attracted to men
>castration makes your horny fade into the background
i'm not significantly less horny than i was pre transition, and im in a long term relationship and have sex. hrt doesn't really "castrate" you in that way unless you just block T and don't take estrogen

>>40285303
You can have all the markers of agp and few of the hsts ones and still only like men and not be attracted to women at all

>>40285320
>saying the word dysphoria is a get-out-of-homophobia-free-card
>hrt doesn't really "castrate" you
>chemical castration
>alan turing got estrogen
>its not like that bro

>>40285148
>>40285354
> castration makes your horny fade into the background
HRT makes your hormone levels close to cis woman's, just more stable due to periods being a rollercoaster for cis women.
Cis women still get horny.
Why do you think HRT nukes the horny?

>>40285354
>get out of homophobia free card
there have been periods of my life where i dealt with some homophobia. for example, i had some for the first few years of my transition as a consequence of the constant "why couldn't you just be gay" "hey is your boyfriend gay" "hey you know you're still gay right"
the reason any of those got to me was because they were calling me male. i have hated being male and wanted to be female since i was 4 years old. i had my first crush i can remember at 8 or 9
>chemical castration
is not the same thing as hrt
>alan turing got estrogen
and died attracted to men still, transition never has been a treatment for male attraction. i have a bf ffs

>>40285215
ive never heard a translesbian with a passing voice. meanwhile hsts start out with high pitched gay lispy feminine voices so its way easier to voice train.
if you werent gay before being trans ur not a real trans desu.

>>40283734 (OP)
>hsts: person who was so feminine she could never have made it as a man
>agp: porn addicted autistic man
you just need to look at an hsts next to an agp to know the answer

>>40285390
>Cis women still get horny.
for money
cash
gold
diamonds

>>40283864
It's not somehow it just is how it is because sex has no meaning beyond sex. Your sex is your reproductive role.

>>40283734 (OP)
Lesbians arent real women, duh