What causes attractive females to want to become males? Ugly dykes might have less to lose. But imagine being able to get men to drop to their knees for you by merely having a pussy, and still wanting to live life on hard mode.

>>40288761 (OP)
probably jorking it to fujoshi bl shit for years and years until you're a mind damaged goonette

>>40288761 (OP)
How did her browbone change

either they want to convert gay men to liking pussy, or convert straight women to liking pussy its one or the other

>>40288778
roids
your bones in the face don't fully ossify and can grow
hes a chill fella i know him

>>40288819
she*

strength

>>40288761 (OP)
ftm is so based

>>40288862
only cuz you never see "after" on video moving around next to a real man

>>40288868
I know a lot of FTMs irl and half of them make my lesbo friends uncomfortable when I bring them to pride because they think they're cis men

>>40288947
>I see into other people's minds and am totally sure that people believe women dressed as men are men
no reason to doubt this story

>>40288950
>women dressed as men are men
They literally are tho to you being a man is a stereotype

>>40288983
trans men are women - there's a reason you never see honest videos of them where men are in the frame too

>>40288994
They just don't fit your stereotype of men being tall and having a square chin or whatever

>>40288950
>i see into others minds and everybody uh smells your chromosomes or something

>>40289014
I clocked an ftm couple with a child last week - it took 10-15 seconds but I did it
its not so much that they are short - its that their proportions are off in an uncanny way

>>40289014
that dude is 6'2 btw
the picrel one

>>40289027
Sure keep reinforcing that men need to built a specific way

>>40289027
and surely you came up to them and surely they did the scooby doo villain thingy when you demasked them
Surely this happened.

>>40289048
they had a little girl with them and were crossing the street
I was biking home with groceries
I wasn't going to interact - I'm just pointing out I can tell when a tranny is a tranny irl even if it's subtle and they are "transitioned"
>>40289046
um i see some weird proportioned men but ftms are sui generis

>>40289066
Again they just don't fit your image of what a man should look like

>>40289066
>4channer biking
fake

>>40289081
no, their shoulders were narrow and their hips were wide
evolution has trained out eyes to suss out fakes and frauds
>women who dress as men just are defying your social customs!
lol
no, I can tell they are women
transgenderism is one big scam

>>40289066
what proportions exactly? Come on, just tell anony

>>40289096
>i-if a man has narrow shoulders he's not a real man!! It just can't be trust me this isn't a harmful stereotype!!

>>40289096
>uhh uhh narrow shoulders wide hips
Anon.... was he just fat?
did you just call a basedlennial a pooner?

>>40288761 (OP)
is this actually a timeline holyyyy

>>40289108
no, women have different bone structures than men, I can always tell trans people apart from cis people irl if I get a clear look at them in motion for 10+ seconds
you will never trick me

>>40289098
their shoulders are narrower and have a lower angle like they descend to the arms more steeply
their hips are wider and protrude where a man's wouldn't
and they were both like 5'4 at most
just admit I can clock troons!

>>40289108
neither were at all fat
at first I thought they were a gay male couple but then I was like wait gay men don't look like that lol

>>40289120
Anon
I asked a simple question
Was. He. Fat?

>>40289127
see
>>40289125

>>40289125
All you can do is impose stereotypes

>>40289140
trannies are literally sexist homophobes who believe dressing up and acting out stereotypes makes them the opposite sex
jump in an oven

>>40289125
you're just schizoing out random shit
just admit it was fake
Best part is i'd maybe believe you if you said shit like face facial hair or style but your kind never does. Wonder why- ohh its because you don't know how to clock a nigga at all

>>40289145
And you literally impose stereotypes on men to look and move in a specific way. If they don't fit your narrow misandrist view they're not real men to you.

>>40289148
there were two women larping as men
I correctly detected that they were women and not men despite their disguises
you are mad
they both had beards - again - I was on a bike - I was stopped at a red light - I saw them for maybe 15 seconds total - STILL clocked them

>>40289161
I'm literally the opposite of a misandrist.

>>40289167
If you weren't you'd stop expecting men to look in a certain way

>>40289167
sure sure anon i definitely believe you

>>40289173
I don't????
I just noticed their biology.
>>40289182
trans women are men
trans men are women
we can always tell (irl)

>>40289167
misogynist wanting more women to bully training themselves to clock ftm troons IS believable desu

>>40289190
You notice what they look like and you think of all the stereotypes they fit/don't fit

>>40288761 (OP)
1) it's not about sex, you porn addicted puppy
2) women living life on easy mode is a fairy tale meant for autists who are incapable of seeing reality by nature

>>40289198
women are terrible people

>>40289190
sure grandpa now take your meds and go to bed
everybody believes you and you also have a big 8 inch dick and a harem of women

>>40288761 (OP)
>What causes attractive females to want to become males?
Best play style if done correctly. You get to skip a lot of the general misogyny that would usually hurt women. Cis women and cis men fall in love with you every time. You get an uncommon and sexy body type similar to how characters in myth have been described. The only way to fuck this up is by being fat, unhygienic, or not obtaining positive masculine and feminine traits to flex.
>get men to drop to their knees for you by merely having a pussy
They do this more since I've transitioned. Passing, or being androgynous, keeps away insecure cis men who will not flirt with you in public.

>>40289216
sorry that i can see through your disguises!

>>40289243
sure sure anon
i aaabsolutely believe you
mhm

>>40289243
You should apologize for all the harmful stereotypes you impose on men

>>40289255
trannies are the ones doing that not me
its not that they aren't fitting into stereotypes - its that I can tell they are females and have pussies

>>40288761 (OP)
gender dysphoria

>>40289264
>its not that they aren't fitting into stereotypes - its that they aren't fitting into the stereotypes
Trans people don't reinforce stereotypes any more than the average cis person. If a cis man dressing up as a man isn't bad then a trans man dressing up as a man isn't bas either.

>>40289273
magic meaningless words

>>40289276
>Trans people don't reinforce stereotypes
your whole existence is literally doing just that
"hurr liking dolls means you have to be a woman"

>>40289281
Your whole existence is looking at bone structures and going "that's not a real man"

>>40289291
they were both women I guarantee if you tested their chromosomes I would be right

>>40289295
If a cis woman likes dolls and is not reinforcing a stereotype through that then a trans woman liking the same is not reinforcing a stereotype either

>>40289302
id you believe your interests must dictate your appearance - you are reinforcing stereotypes
trannies believe appearance must match behavior
i.e. looks feminine acts feminine
or
looks masculine acts masculine

>>40288761 (OP)
I know psychotic pseudodysphoric males are neurologically incapable of understanding this, but ftms are transsexuals that experience sex dysphoria. It isn’t some dissociated decision based on the perceived pluses and minuses of pursuing a fetish like it is for MtTs.

>>40288947
The only downside of transition is that now all women and most men think I’m a right wing chud based on appearance and vibes.
I mean I kind of am but in the schizophrenic way not the mentally retarded way.

>>40289308
>id you believe your interests must dictate your appearance
Of course you'd think that you think bones dictate shit too

>>40288761 (OP)
misandry

>>40289066
Would legit bet my life savings you clocked a cis man with a kid

>>40289325
they were two ftms
i am a a gay man
i know what other gay men look like
they were women larping as gay men
trannies are hated because you dictate my beliefs, thoughts, and perceptions

>>40288761 (OP)
Gender dysphoria.
Unlike mtfs, ftms don't transition to become more beautiful, or to get more sex with men/women.
They transition because they want to be men. And that's it.
I wish transition was possible for me too.

>>40289327
You are a failed tranny larping as a gay man

>>40288868
>no hips
>no thighs
>waist less cinched
>we have to hope the dick is bigger than average
>known to not take care of themselves
I'd hate to say it but cis men just don't look all that great

>>40289125
>>40289066
>>40289167
I don't think you understand how butch lesbians can look similar to ftms, and take t without calling themselves ftm.
It's more believable you saw two butch lesbian with child, than two ftms with child.

>>40288947
its easy to make a female look like an ugly male lol
a totally superficial argument you make

>>40288761 (OP)
Words words words, “easy mode” fags are so annoying. Cute girl became cute guy, who cares?

I've dated some attractive females and I'll let you in on a secret. attractive females go through life thinking it's normal to be liked by everyone and treated well by everyone, they assume that if they were male, they'd get the same treatment only to also have "male privilege" and then there'd be no stopping them

like literally normal hot girl advice to a guy is "just ask that random guy standing over there who doesn't know you for something totally unreasonable and he'll gladly do it, why do you have such a bad attitude about everything!?!? it's your negativity that's holding you back!!!" and you tell her she's nuts and she goes "no you're wrong I'll prove it" and walks over to the guy whose demeanor changes instantly and he's glad to do anything she asks and she thinks it's her "positive attitude" and not being a hot girl

female socialization renders you physically incapable of imagining being a sentient being around whom the world does not revolve, they think manlets could all be CEO chads if they just didn't have an "attitude problem", that's why they all detrans so hard and earn $200k a year for campaigning against medical care because even if you chop off their tits they still have a vagina and a thigh gap and small head instead of a disgusting male body that makes everyone hate you

I'm not even jealous I'm just not deluded enough to think that males and females are even the same species

>>40288761 (OP)
>hat causes attractive females to want to become males
envy

>>40290677
thanks for confirming that women are extremely retarded and need actual patriarchy to stop them destroying civilization

>>40288761 (OP)
threads like these are always funny because you see how this board thinks women are somehow retarded children that can't fend for themselves but are also maneating succubi who hold extreme power over men

>>40290788
>women are somehow retarded children that can't fend for themselves but are also maneating succubi who hold extreme power over men
yes that is what they are, horrifying mind control parasites that hijack males for their brute strength, straight out of a nature documentary

>>40290788
both of those things can be true at once
women dumped all their stats into male emotional manipulation and are retarded in every other area
men basically built all of human civilization for access to pussy

>>40290799
>>40290812
>"why am i alone"

>>40288761 (OP)
do ftms not realize that literally 0 cis men have nose rings or do they just not care?
he was literally unclockable and he just couldn't help himself. why? people can do what they want obviously i don't care i shouldn't care, but it just baffles me, like what are you doing??

>>40290830
I'm alone because IRL experience with females turned me into a misogynist. I used to put women on a pedestal and do the whole "it's just an attitude problem" like every ftm and virgin cisman, now I know better

>>40288761 (OP)
why does it bother me so much that women have better facial hair than I do?

>>40290864
Do you live on an uncontacted island? Tons of cis men have nose rings. The nose ring/mullet/rings combo is really fashionable right now.
>t. lives in a college city

>>40290864
they have a compulsive need to accessorize and they're socially conditioned to disregard any male who tries to help because "you're an incel, I do this to please myself"

if they weren't female socialized they could understand why it looks insanely clocky, but they're too deeply brainwashed by their upbringing to understand the pressures and expectations that are placed on men. they looked at some online catalog and saw male models completely covered with bangles and arm bands and necklaces and the entire summer 2025 maria tash catalog, and naturally concluded that they could dress like that too in real life, and nobody would notice how strange it looks

>>40290893
that's somewhat true in the same sense that "tons of afabs are taking T and transitioning), like it's not absolutely unheard of and of course it happens, but thinking that the typical male looks like that is the same mistake right wingers make thinking that everyone is transitioning rather than the reality which is that it's much more common than it once was but still statistical noise from a whole population point of view
>but my queer social group that hangs out in alt circles all looks like this
yes, well, people can tell, that's my feedback take it or leave it

>>40290870

>>40290898
This board is so out of touch with reality jesus christ
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/how-to-clean-jewellery-gold-silver-diamond
Get your fashion up

>>40290898
is there a transfem equivalent to this? i am wracking my brain and i can't think of one.
there are clocky things transfems do like having excessive over the top eye makeup on 24/7 with nothing else on, or being disproportionately more likely to have neon hair colors, but i can't think of anything we do that's like an explicitly masculine accessory we insist on retaining.

i guess maybe because, men literally do not accessorize, lol

>>40288761 (OP)
ngl he's actually pretty cute as a man

>>40290926
>they looked at some online catalog and saw male models completely covered with bangles and arm bands and necklaces a
thanks for supporting my point I guess?

>>40290926
some men wear rings, some men wear necklaces. you might even see a bracelet now and again. jewelry in general is a bigger thing in the african american community specifically i feel. But I have never seen a cis man with a nose ring. never ever.

>>40290914
Anon it's a tiny nose ring. I didn't notice it until you pointed it out. Seeing a nose ring on the man in op picrel and immediately thinking he's FTM instead of a fashionable cis man means you're schizophrenic and need to take a detox from the computer.
It's 2025, most cis men actually care about how they look. Jewellery is fashionable amongst young men of all stripes except for extreme right wingers who think any accessorizing is gay - you can go into the mens section of any major fashion retailer and they'll have a tasteful selection of rings and necklaces.

>>40290830
this is female manipulation - "i will deny you access to my hole for questioning me"

>>40290893
I live in the biggest city in my state on the east coast lol, i swear i've never seen it

>>40290958
>>40290970
nta but i see lots of cis men with nose rings. but i live in europe so maybe americans are behind the times?
i feel like people are hyperfocusing on the nose ring because he's unclockable and they want to find any reason to tear him down. sad.

>>40290958
indian guys and just recent immigrants in general are more prone to having gold chains and the occasional bracelet or ring but yeah nose rings on a guy is almost never seen of outside "queer" circles where guys also wear nail polish just so they can deride you as a boomer for noticing that it's a little bit unusual

more power to you poons if you don't care about passing at all, just know that people notice this stuff and if anyone is out of touch it's you

>>40290959
case in point. "uhhhh actually if you're male and don't have a bunch of nose rings and a wolf cut and wear fishnets and wing eyeliner and run an ftfemboy thirst trap tiktok you're actually a religious fundamentalist chud, ok!??!?!" lol

>>40290967
Well you seem like a complete catch. How unfortunate that I'm missing out.

>>40291001
>case in point. "uhhhh actually if you're male and don't have a bunch of nose rings and a wolf cut and wear fishnets and wing eyeliner and run an ftfemboy thirst trap tiktok you're actually a religious fundamentalist chud, ok!??!?!" lol
picrel

>>40291003
there's not even any point replying to this, as a cuntoid you aren't even capable of understanding that i don't care about access to your hole
women should be kept in barns and milked

>>40290967
>i want unrestricted access to holes regardless of how i make you feel
It's not happening

>>40290981
>i feel like people are hyperfocusing on the nose ring because he's unclockable
that is exactly why i brought it up yes lol. he is unclockable. that's why i find it crazy that he's wearing a nose ring because i feel like it's so counterproductive.

>>40291023
have you considered that the average well-adjusted person will not give a fuck that he has a nose ring. like they will just see a cis man with a pierced nose and think nothing more.

>>40291020
Call up your mother and read your reply to her. How unfortunate that you were once a happy innocent little boy who grew up to be twisted by hate. I hope she has a better son in the next life.

>>40291038
>uhhh actually most people won't want to instantly hatecrime this person so actually it means nobody noticed

>>40291048
>there must be a woman around I can find who'll manipulate you
get fucked cuntoid

>>40291048
>>40291082
my mother brought me up to basically worship women
men are all socialized to kill themselves rather than make a woman feel bad in the slightest way, we are a caste of self-sacrificing slaves and we're supposed to feel good about that

>>40288761 (OP)
I seriously think left is kinda mediocre desu, even receding hairline she's just White. The male version looks way better has a cute groomed shadow, better eyes, better haircut.

Actually right guy looks like what you dream some video gamer would look like at age 6, hey bro I got a bunch of games in my satchel, wanna play? I am totally about Nintendo, Mario is my homeboy, also I got doritos bro, here take my other Switch paddle bro hahahaha this is so fun I am happy that I met you 6 year old anon if you get bored we can also skateboard...

OK I will stop before I start crying.

>>40288778
>>40288819
>How did her browbone change
Chin implants and brow filler every 12 months.
https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimelines/comments/1ll3rft/14_years_on_t_chin_implant_brow_filler/

>>40291231
damn I was impressed before but now I'm disappointed. Why go for filler in the brow and not another implant?

>>40291001
Shut up, I fucked a straight cis man who had painted nails and piercings.
Kys boomer hon.

>>40291399
>shut up boomerhon, I totally turned a straight man gay
sure you did

>>40291469
Imagine lacking reading comprehension that much, subhuman.

>>40290677
>all detrans so hard and earn $200k a year
sure to the rest of your post but have you seen any of these detransers because they're all fugly even before transiion

>>40291825
Most are attractive before transition, even during transition, but most of detransitioners look freaky, meanwhile some are just going back to being pretty girls again

>>40291873
i genuinely don't know any that were ever able to be considered attractive but i don't know any detransers in real life, just the political pundit ones

a decent amount of pooners end up looking like this if they actually chop their tits off and go on a reasonably high dose of T

>>40291924
This is the most brutal ftm repfuel pic I've ever seen.

>>40291924
more masculine than the average poster on here

>>40291924
That doesn't happen if they take care of themselves instead of just shooting T thinking it would do all magic.

>>40291873
Nta the other anon is correct. Most detrannies are ugly pretransition. You can find some mid examples but attractive? Maybe to you, but I wouldn't place most detransitioners (pretrans) above a 6.5

>>40291946
I know some ftms who were attractive as women (pre trans) but why are detransitioner always unattractive?

>>40291939
women are braindamaged from the entire world catering to them so a decent amount will just shoot T without taking care of themselves assuming everything will work itself out

>>40291924
Yeah this is why I'm repping and staying as woman I would kill myself if I looked like this. But I can be cute as a girl.
Sure I can look like this too >>40291939
But it's a high risk to take.

>>40291960
>women are braindamaged from the entire world catering to them
Lmao what the fuck. Female upbringing is shit. Women are raised to be retarded and weak.

>>40292035
Why do so many reppers see the worst possible outcome and go "I'm repping" rather than looking at the best possible outcome and working toward making themselves attractive? Are you people seriously that ugly?

>>40292086
I think it's more laziness. you have to work out and weightlift a lot even on T as a woman to get a fairly muscular male looking poonchad body. most women are too lazy and used to having everything handed to them by society to comprehend doing all that work

>>40292112
On T as a woman? Wtf are you even talking about, trans women? Or ftm? If ftm weightlifting becomes much easier, it shouldn't be hard to build yourself up. It's almost too easy. Although this does give me some perspective. These people aren't on T, so they wouldn't know it gives you effortless muscles.

>>40292243
Anon there are cis women who take T...

>>40292302
I never said there weren't

>>40292086
Transitioning takes a lot of work, money and sacrifices.
Not denying that there aren't attractive trans men, but going from feminine woman to masculine man seems impossible to me. At least in my case.

>>40291205
>what you dream some video gamer would look like at age 6, hey bro I got a bunch of games in my satchel, wanna play? I am totally about Nintendo, Mario is my homeboy, also I got doritos bro, here take my other Switch paddle bro hahahaha this is so fun I am happy that I met you 6 year old anon if you get bored we can also skateboard...
this is the most brutal murder I've seen on /tttt/

>>40288761 (OP)
Went from looking like a average girl to a trashy looking guy I would try to avoid talking to at any cost. The kind of guy who doesn't outwardly hit on you or try to ask you out, but will still harass you and make you feel uncomfortable and sexualized. All he would need is more obvious tattoos to complete the look. I am aware that is the transition goal of most trans men though.
>t. cis woman (if you can believe it)

>>40292243
>>40291924
someone like this is definitely on T, you can tell from the horrible acne and redface. and yet she still is too lazy to not be a fat sack of shit

>>40292243
real women aka ftms you retard

ts nigga got a chin implant

>>40293361
I was referring to the person saying they were repping, not the pic. Sorry anon.
>>40293397
Calm down it's not that serious

>>40288761 (OP)
could be because of shit like this lol >>40289213

>>40289209
>pros of being a man
the stronger, taller sex. never singled out as a microcosm for their entire gender for every little thing they do. has 1st class citizen rights around the world. instantly commands respect in the room. less likely to be abused/molested/kidnapped
>pros of being a woman
you will always be able to get laid

>>40295308
the men that are completely invisible to women don't like women, how terrible and worth cutting your tits off over

>>40291952
most angry ftmtf detranners are like that becaused when they were trans they were gigapooners. any time i see a detranner who passed when they were trans they never seem to hold as much resentment.